Well said- these Guilds at least had to demonstrate a tangible proficiency of what they represented, as opposed to the 'pay to play' credentialism of degrees.
Information and statistics can be interpreted to match your viewpoint, which is neoliberalism and free, open markets. The most dramatic impact of the guilds was Protectionism, protection of the local workers, against competition based on lower prices stemming from lower cost of production... i.e. China etc.. the import tariffs of the 70s and before did exactly what the guilds did, protect the local products, and the jobs that are involved.. the result of abolishing them was the destruction of industry, loss of know-how, lower imcomes, unemployment, etc etc.. And no, free markets doesn't mean lower cost for the consumer, there are under the table agreements and geographical division of markets, as well as elimination of less powerful competition, by the large few corporations that obviously rule the world. As economic history proved, open markets lead to less competition, to cartels, and oligopolies.. in this environment, innovation dies at the altar of profit... it makes more money to produce aspirins with different tastes every year, than do serious research to cure cancer...
Like the information. I was under the impressions that Guilds protected the members of the various Guilds from exploitation. That is to say Guilds allowed for a certain amount of price fixing of their goods and services. US unions also allowed for a certain amount of price fixing thereby supporting those of the unions. Those that are familiar with the US history in the 1920s and 1930s where the wages allowed by employers to receive by the workers were just barely enough to get by. Civil rights and so on in the US have essentially nullified most unions and as there is a certain amount of education associated with a union, typically, their educations are also nullified. And this 'nullification has been extended to those that have earned degrees in the US, in that all universities and colleges are seen as being equal or identical. Indeed vocational education is seen, as a practical matter as being 'identical' as those with either a 4 year degree or higher. As an eyewitness of such doings, the folks with the education were typically earning just a marginal bit above the less educated even though the educated folks ran around as troubleshooters to shore up the efforts of the somewhat less educated. So for me the question is does the more modern system work? I watch PBS quite a lot and the news programming typically offered. During the mid 1980s there were a number of representatives of various industries on the News Hour (or the equivalent) fussing about the quality of folks that they could find to work in their factories or doing white collar work. I found that odd. Really odd. Not at all like the Utopian society declared by LBJ in his 'Great Society' political campaign speeches. Later there was the "STEM" programs put in place by the second Bush, and still there are copious bunches of whiners and fussers on PBS, complaining and fussing. How does that happen? Exactly? And as much of the employment is by civil rights dictates in the form of a contract between Uncle and the various states or employers, do they legally get to fuss? As in contract law all outcomes are foreseeable and expected. Very strange, time to turn the TV to a different channel. Completely worth ignoring in its entirety, y know?
Finishing her book now. What an awesomely well researched book... and so relevant to educational institutions today, though so far (I’m on page 360) she’s not mentioned how education is the last remaining guild that operates on a national scale as as Krause does in “the death of guilds”. Of course her analysis is deliberately confined to past centuries. But one does get the idea she is dropping a big hint towards this behemoth institution through the whole book. From a historical standpoint She does an excellent job at refuting the dogma and propoganda which the public has by now been indoctrinated with. We have all been trained to think and act like gangbangers😾
This is really great. But you’re oh so very very wrong about labor unions today. I am speaking from quite a bit of live personal experiences, as well as study. Today’s labor unions are absolutely behaving as you’re describing the guilds. Make no mistake about it.
Labor unions today are organizations of/representing workers, guilds represented employers. So, regardless of "behavior", guilds are more analogous to industry-specific chambers of commerce
Funny she feels the need to say “we’re not engaged in any conspiracy against the public” nobody said you did. Are you paranoid? There are many great positive views of the guilds. Unfortunately this is a viewpoint that sounds like it was concocted in Soviet Hollywood or something. Much more to the guilds.
Recognition as a master was incumbent upon building a literal masterpiece. Where are our masterpieces now?
Well said- these Guilds at least had to demonstrate a tangible proficiency of what they represented, as opposed to the 'pay to play' credentialism of degrees.
Information and statistics can be interpreted to match your viewpoint, which is neoliberalism and free, open markets.
The most dramatic impact of the guilds was Protectionism, protection of the local workers, against competition based on lower prices stemming from lower cost of production... i.e. China etc.. the import tariffs of the 70s and before did exactly what the guilds did, protect the local products, and the jobs that are involved.. the result of abolishing them was the destruction of industry, loss of know-how, lower imcomes, unemployment, etc etc..
And no, free markets doesn't mean lower cost for the consumer, there are under the table agreements and geographical division of markets, as well as elimination of less powerful competition, by the large few corporations that obviously rule the world.
As economic history proved, open markets lead to less competition, to cartels, and oligopolies.. in this environment, innovation dies at the altar of profit... it makes more money to produce aspirins with different tastes every year, than do serious research to cure cancer...
this woman is very informative. I like this a lot.
She's a shill providing a post hoc rationalisation of liberalism
I was about to buy her book but good thing i watched this before
Like the information. I was under the impressions that Guilds protected the members of the various Guilds from exploitation. That is to say Guilds allowed for a certain amount of price fixing of their goods and services. US unions also allowed for a certain amount of price fixing thereby supporting those of the unions. Those that are familiar with the US history in the 1920s and 1930s where the wages allowed by employers to receive by the workers were just barely enough to get by. Civil rights and so on in the US have essentially nullified most unions and as there is a certain amount of education associated with a union, typically, their educations are also nullified. And this 'nullification has been extended to those that have earned degrees in the US, in that all universities and colleges are seen as being equal or identical. Indeed vocational education is seen, as a practical matter as being 'identical' as those with either a 4 year degree or higher. As an eyewitness of such doings, the folks with the education were typically earning just a marginal bit above the less educated even though the educated folks ran around as troubleshooters to shore up the efforts of the somewhat less educated. So for me the question is does the more modern system work? I watch PBS quite a lot and the news programming typically offered. During the mid 1980s there were a number of representatives of various industries on the News Hour (or the equivalent) fussing about the quality of folks that they could find to work in their factories or doing white collar work. I found that odd. Really odd. Not at all like the Utopian society declared by LBJ in his 'Great Society' political campaign speeches. Later there was the "STEM" programs put in place by the second Bush, and still there are copious bunches of whiners and fussers on PBS, complaining and fussing. How does that happen? Exactly? And as much of the employment is by civil rights dictates in the form of a contract between Uncle and the various states or employers, do they legally get to fuss? As in contract law all outcomes are foreseeable and expected. Very strange, time to turn the TV to a different channel. Completely worth ignoring in its entirety, y know?
I wish there were tables covered in wine bottles in my social studies classes
Wonderful explanation. Thank you.
Definitely getting a non biased pov here
Finishing her book now. What an awesomely well researched book... and so relevant to educational institutions today, though so far (I’m on page 360) she’s not mentioned how education is the last remaining guild that operates on a national scale as as Krause does in “the death of guilds”. Of course her analysis is deliberately confined to past centuries. But one does get the idea she is dropping a big hint towards this behemoth institution through the whole book. From a historical standpoint She does an excellent job at refuting the dogma and propoganda which the public has by now been indoctrinated with. We have all been trained to think and act like gangbangers😾
This is really great. But you’re oh so very very wrong about labor unions today. I am speaking from quite a bit of live personal experiences, as well as study. Today’s labor unions are absolutely behaving as you’re describing the guilds. Make no mistake about it.
Labor unions today are organizations of/representing workers, guilds represented employers. So, regardless of "behavior", guilds are more analogous to industry-specific chambers of commerce
Muy bein
Funny she feels the need to say “we’re not engaged in any conspiracy against the public” nobody said you did. Are you paranoid? There are many great positive views of the guilds. Unfortunately this is a viewpoint that sounds like it was concocted in Soviet Hollywood or something. Much more to the guilds.
It's all about shitting on the world before us to justify the existence and perpetuation of the one now.
'People of Jewish extraction' - otherwise known as Jews.