The Transition from Fighters to Airliners
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Mover and I chat about our experience moving from fast movers to reasonably paced fuel efficient LARGE movers. Enjoy!
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I’m a captain in Australia on a Fokker 100 have had a few ex Raaf f18 pilots fly with us they did very well but they didn’t hang around.
Dont blame them, no offence, but bit of a downgrade!! Like going from a ferrari to a bus
I'm a retired airline flight dispatcher and used to ride in the jumpseat quite a bit. I was always amazed at how well the pilots used the Flight Management System; they'd be pushing buttons on that thing like concert pianists on stage. That, above everything else, looked to me like that would be the hard thing to learn. I was impressed.
I watch the Captains do it, it is impressive!
Prayers and intentions for Doug tomorrow. Painless speedy recovery Doug.
Thank you Kate!
Flew the 'Bus for 11 years and now on the 73 and Mover's comments are spot on. The 73 is ancient and the Max is just airline version of Weekend At Bernie's.
Been flying the bus for 17 years now, and the best about it is that you can still fly it like any other aircraft. Getting the engines to spool back to idle at 36000 ft and keeping them there down to 1500 ft is a lot of fun in energy management, especially in an A321 that has small wings and a lot of weight.
It’s an entirely different kind of flying altogether
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IT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT KIND OF FLYING.
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Excellent discussion, very interesting, thanks!
Fantastic and humble answer to the question do you think you will pass the training 😅….I would expect no less from you…bless you man…you are so very humble…such a rarity
Thanks man!
A new Airbus pilot: whats it doing now??? An experienced Airbus pilot: oh its doing that again :P
oh man that was my lifes plan when I was a teen. fly military then airliners. until I failed some eye tests
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I'm sure going from a fast military single seat fighter to a sleepy airliner is a hard transition to make for many former military fighter pilots. It might be an easier transition if you flew crewed heavies in the military.
If you can type 50 words a minute you'll make a good airline pilot! And yes, airline flying is highly scripted, profiles, flows, checklist discipline, our manuals had exact verbiage to be used for almost all procedures and deviations would not be tolerated.
Stop going for the 3 wire when landing the airliner is a plus as well.
For folks who have flown the bus and the 7-3, I'd be curious if you prefer an airplane with manual controls and positive stability or FBW controls and neutral stability.
Similar experience for me. I went from Army helicopters to civilian law enforcement helicopters and then to HEMS. HEMS is ran like a mini airline with piles of rules, regulations and multiple supervisors looking over your shoulder. Yuck. I’ll be going back to the military or public safety asap.
Some ex military pilots don’t fit well in civilian flying. It’s has more to do with personality than ability. Once some military pilots become ‘institutionalised’ they can’t shake it off to fit into the civilian world. They give themselves away when they say “I” a lot, not “we”. Bus all they way….
I don't know what you're talking about.
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I don't hate the 73 tbh. Is it more work then the bus? Yes. Is it ancient? It's the Wikipedia definition of ancient. Is it the loudest and least comfortable ride in the fleet? Without a doubt. That being said it's robust, flies well, and pays great. Oh and it's the best schedule out of my base and seniority which trumps all lol.
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121 non-self loading cargo is a world diff then self loading
Yeah, sure do wish Boeing would design something cool again. Many pilots think the 757 is cool cuz it looks so darn cool, like a greyhound.
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Why can't we design new stuff? My take. Competition breeds innovation, right? There's little to no competition in the American aerospace business anymore. Boeing builds OK airplanes (they could be much better) but most people don't realize how much 50's and 60's tech is still in many Boeing jets. I'm talking flight controls, hydraulic systems and landing gear, even pressurization and environmental systems. 787 aside, all that Boeing has done is a add computers and monitoring systems to the old tech instead of innovating new and better systems, but the 787 is a step in the right direction.
Boeing has no American airliner competition anymore. None. So there's little to no reason to invest in innovation (R&D). Boeing has become so big that they don't see a need to compete. If they can't out bid a company on a contract they want they either buy a controlling interest in that company or just buy them outright. They did that to their chief American rival McDonnell Douglas. They pushed that deal through by saying they were going to continue with 717 production and they were gong to move the 737 line to Long Beach assuring everybody that the 1,000's of jobs in Long Beach would remain. Well after the deal was done, wouldn't you know it, they changed their mind and shuttered Long Beach killing the 717 and leaving the 737 in Seattle. In the deal they got the all the McDonnell Douglas military contracts, (which is what they wanted) namely the F/A-18 and the F-15. When Airbus won the Air Force Tanker contract, Boeing sued and just tied the deal up in court for so long that Airbus just gave up. Now the Air Force is getting a 60's/70's outdated airframe with just enough new stuff that you can't say there old airplanes. It's like putting a 2023 digital dashboard in a 1970 car. Behind all the pretty lights and video screens it's still a 1970 car. Good job Boeing replacing an ancient airframe design with another ancient airframe design. Again no real innovation, no real advancement because no real competition.
Boeing tried to buy a controlling interest in Airbus 20 years ago but failed and then again when Airbus started building the A320 family in the US, but the European Union squashed that deal. So as far as Airliners go, No real competition to force real innovation.
Valid opinions, they do make some good airplanes, they also make some old airplanes.....
there is competition from Airbus for example.. also from Embraer / Bombardier... until they got bought each by Boeing and Bus..
Boeing had actually a good design on the 757 but let it die..and now cant restart it and Airbus has got that socket with the new 321XLR.
the worst was.. the whole MAX thing was because Boeing didnt wanted to redesign the wing box for a taller gear.. we are no talking about redesigning the fuselage or entire wing.,. they just wanted to keep the same frigin gear
Airliners don't land on boats, right? Don't you get bored in those airliners, going slow and long duration flights? It seems to me, everything airliners do is in slow motion? Of course, the flight intendants you don't have on fighter jets. 😁