Firefighters voice fierce opposition for Los Angeles street modification measure
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- Опубликовано: 13 фев 2024
- A slew of Los Angeles city officials, cultural organizations and unions are engaged in a hotly contested debate over Measure HLA, which would require the city to undertake a massive street and sidewalk improvement project. Environmental and labor groups are among the largest backers of the resident-led measure, believing that it would increase traffic safety after a record year of pedestrian deaths and improve mobility options. Among the most vehement critics of the measure are local firefighters, who held a press conference Wednesday morning to emphasize that the proposal would make it less safe for emergency vehicles to navigate already congested L.A. streets.
KTLA 5's Ellina Abovian reports. (Feb. 14, 2024)
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HLA literally tells the city do its job and fulfill its own existing plans already approved years ago. It's just that the city has refused to follow through so far on its obligations for the most part. Opposition to this is nonsense.
If they say no then I’m voting yes
That's the key word firefighters are using to scare voters: "Already car congested". The whole purpose for wider sidewalk street walking, bike lanes, bus lanes, pedestrian friendly. Is for people to use other modes of transportation. To keep people out of their cars, to make less traffic. But they prefer to scare you. That they won't make it to you in an emergency. With one less traffic lane. Just imagine the automotive lobby paying the firefighter to scare you against citizens own interest!
have you been on the bus lately? It's not safe at all. Just yesterday, they killed a guy on the bus. so you are telling me to ditch my car for that... plus, all these kids in packs dont even use the bike lanes by dtla. All i see is homless invading the bike lanes anyways
@@comprayreventadestorageuni8618 wow one example of a death on a bus, ever heard of traffic fatalities
@@comprayreventadestorageuni8618 no one is forcing you to take the bus. Go ride a bike. It's better imo
KTLA posts TWO videos against Measure HLA instead of balanced reporting. The only counter point they offer is from one random dude given ten seconds to say he likes HLA.
At the end of the first video, the reporter said they were going to post a second video to present the Yes on HLA side. Instead, they double-down with a second video against the measure. Plus, they throw out some false information that the measure will cost the city something. This is not true. The only thing the measure does is force the city to follow the law. It is not introducing any new bike and bus lanes. That plan has already been passed, but the city has failed to follow the laws on the books. Vote Yes on HLA.
Btw the random dude started the nonprofit Streets For All, which is the organization that wrote the ballot measure HLA… and yes they only gave him about 10 seconds 💀
I will vote no free Israel.
@@javieredward777
River to the sea no Palestine 😂😂
I think they're deleting comments for hla too. I went against someone and they kept deleting my comment
It's possible they're being lobbied by car companies too
Those scooters ripping down the sidewalks would go in the bike the lanes as well. Disgraceful that they would oppose this. Skateboard, bike, and scooter lane would mean a lot safer sidewalks for the pedestrians.
Reducing lanes actually does reduce traffic, because a lot of it is that there’s no alternative and some of it is artificial demand, these guys should stick to firefighting
Reducing lanes will cause more congestion. Talk to the people of Playa Del Rey and Mar Vista about what happened there. It was a mess. They had to reopen the lanes.
Yes. Long term gains take a while. What they did was shortsighted.
@@Flackvest No. If there are alternatives to driving, people will use them
@@handsfortoothpicks you will never get me to use the crime ridden, homeless infused, late and unreliable public transportation we have here in Los Angeles again. I rode public transportation as a teen until I was able to drive. And I tried riding it recently in 2023. Screw that. Only if I can carry some heat to protect myself if the unthinkable happens. And even then, It's not worth the legal trouble or aggravation when I can just drive my own vehicle and avoid all of that instead.
@@FlackvestOkay and? It will get better as public transportation becomes more reliable
so... they want to make pedestrians and bicycle riders less safe and more DEATHS because of an "inconvenience" for their trucks.
It's not an inconvenience for their trucks. It an increase of response times.
next time your child is choking or your house is on fire, call a scooter guy he would definitely be there faster than first responders
The firefighters will get there when they get there. They won't stop working because the streets are.a bit narrower. How about this: make the bike lane wide enough for fire trucks, and they can use the bike lane in an emergency if the street is completely blocked with cars. Problem solved.
@@comprayreventadestorageuni8618funny you say that because firefighters can take the shortcut through the bike lanes too and it can work
i'm voting yes on new infrastructure.
Ahahaha now I’m definitely voting yes
More room for the tents!!
That little worm @ the end
The goal is to get everyone onto bicycles and buses. Fifteen minute cities with no cars allowed.
Are you threatening us with at good time?
In the city of Pacoima i seen for about four years on Van Nuys blvd. The city put in bike lanes and one driveing lane instead of two, both ways. It runs for about 5 miles. No one uses the bike lane becuase it is full of sharp pieces of glass and metal. I never see anyone use bike lane ever. And it slows car traffic both ways. They should spend money on cheaning up the city.
Secretly getting rid of gas cars huh.
All that money they want to spend on HLA should be spent on better lighting. The streets of LA are pitch black. And were so call a big city.
Those barriers have gridlocked Los Angeles. They're dangerous.
They have my support for sure!
newsom and cali goverment holding back the little guy and not the middle class and top class what else is new.....its ok people will vote for this and complain later and blame rep again.
"back the little guy and not the middle class and top class what else is new"
Not everyone can afford a car, but okay.
Adults need to speak up or children will go wild.
Dogs can be trained to sit and roll over.
Los Angeles fire department is already unhappy better not to upset them more
Boo-hoo fireman don’t like your job…do something else
@@redeyedmongoose2963 fine enjoy your electric firetruck that is always broken. Funny how so many people are transferring out of your department must be your attitude and your love for hiring unqualified people to try and look good for your peers
@@redeyedmongoose2963 why are so many people transferring out of the Los Angeles fire department? Could it be you are hiring unqualified people to try and look good for your peers?
@@Dustinchanse it's not about unqualified people. Less are putting in for the job and many are leaving this liberal infested city for better working conditions.
YES ON HLA!!
Science says overpopulation is the issue so we replaced the gaurd rail with the inverted concrete kick flip killer K wall launch ramp as a permanent construction design because insurance is organized crime and organ donning is big business.
I support firefighters
I support people not cars
Do you support the countless number of lives affected negatively by cars?
Unlike you, I support childrens safetey
That is caused by cars.. @@handsfortoothpicks
@@jamesjeon1956 Children are safe because cars can run them over on their way to school?
Waste of money, simply stupid measure. Vote No! Pushing people to use a bike or walk. Many of us live far and have to take these streets to get to work. With HLA on these streets make more traffic. It will look pretty for the local residents, but not us who have to get to work on time.
Nobody wants to bike or ride transit. We need more lanes for cars not less!
LA has the largest highway system in the world. Use your brain maybe and see that more lanes are terrible
@@handsfortoothpicks Bikes and busses are for children.
All the public space in LA is already for cars. What more could you possibly want? You've had it your way and you still complain about it. It's time to rethink this a little. Take some of that space and give it to a more efficient form of transport. It would be good for everyone to have less cars on the streets.
@mariusfacktor3597 You people have been trying to make people's ride public transportation for years and nobody wants it. The only people who want it are those who can't afford a car or get a license. If you force people from being able to drive downtown with less lanes you'll just cause less people to go downtown and hurt downtown businesses further.
When they say bike lanes, what really is going to happen is more territory for the homeless to claim.
Looks like it could cause congestion and slow emergency response. Say there’s a bus in the bus lane and both sides of the road are jammed with traffic, will we still put the blame on emergency response crews for not getting to where they need to be on time? We need more roads for cars to pull over to the side when an emergency vehicle is passing by. If busses were running 24/7 I’d be all for them having their own lane, but they’re not so that’s just a waste of drivable road being unused. It’ll only affect you when you’re waiting for emergency personnel to get to you as quickly as possible and hopefully this will help with the way you choose to vote.
If there was a bus in the bus lane and a fire truck came up behind it, the bus would simply drive forward to the next intersection where the truck could pass it.
" Say there’s a bus in the bus lane and both sides of the road are jammed with traffic"
There is only one bus. Once that bus is gone the response vehicle is free. If there wasn't a bus lane, they would be stuck there in the same traffic as you. You would be delaying the police in this situation.
" If busses were running 24/7 I’d be all for them having their own lane, but they’re not so that’s just a waste of drivable road being unused"
Busses are not cars. More people can fit on a bus than a car. Cars are a waste of space more than any bus is. Busses move more people than cars
In this video they use bus lane to pass traffic: ruclips.net/video/zKgDUqktrng/видео.htmlfeature=shared
@mathieufaltys and you think there's only gonna be a bus you forgot about the people that wont follow rules and still be using the bus lane it happens already in dtla
Vote no on HLA.
Voting NO, don't fall for this bogus measure.
HLA just requires the city to carry out the city's own plan. The city passed a mobility plan back in 2015 to deal with traffic, but they haven't been implementing it. HLA would require them to actually do it. It sounds reasonable to me. There's nothing bogus about it.
Our entire family and friends VOTED NO to HLA.
3.1 billion? and Firefighters are absolutely against this because it will just slow them down.
Who’s getting their pockets full from this?
ABSOLUTELY VOTE NO
It already passed once. Watch this pass yet again and your family cry about it 😂
Boooo - no one’s getting paid to do this, it’s an existing law just being enforced
Diagnosing you with a serious case of nimbyism
Cure: go touch some grass and ride a bike around the new safe bike lanes they'll make. You'll feel better
@@soaringstars314 hahahaha nymbyism? Is that why you don’t want a homeless encampment in your backyard?
God how I love people like you bring up nimbyism for anything and everything. Talk about double effing standard eh?
@@BabaYaga-yh3yi that never happens... I haven't heard of many homeless people set up an encampment on someone's backyard. Usually it's more like burglars you should be worried about