I mean identity theft is a possibility but the events described in this video were a bit silly, it would have been pretty easy to just declare them alive again once you take a quick look at their face.
the government can’t even keep track of whose alive or dead but socialist think it will go over very well when the “proletariat” takes over all private property
@@draconisthewyvern3664 and guess what the government can do to take over your property? Yes, declare you dead... If there are no next of kin (not uncommon these days) everything falls to the government unless there's a will and those are easy to "disappear" especially as they have to be claimed in a timely manner and if nobody knows you're dead until that period expires...
I would suggest that if they decide to declare you dead, your best option would be assault one of them, then they would certainly want speed up the process to make sure you be alive, so you could be punished by law made by them.
Reminds me of when my mom tried to get my brothers birth certificate after he was born. The paperwork got lost or misplaced and, as a result, she had a really tough time proving she gave birth to him. After several months they managed to sort it out and she was finally able to get it.
Nothing of this level but my mother had to provide documents of my name change for something or other but misplaced them. When she called the department in charge of this they said that those documents 'didn't exist', so she had to re-change my name. She then found the old documents again. Kinda crazy that they can just 'lose' stuff like that though.
@@monroerobbins7551 No, they got his correct date of birth, as far as I know, we celebrate that as his birthday in any case. The only thing is the date is was issued is several months off from his birthdate compared to mine which is only a few days.
@@flippyflare1336 They might have done DNA testing, I can't say for certain what was done. I just know they had to prove it was hers and that she had given birth to him.
@@psychopompous489 TheOdd1sOut put that reference in a video, and they clearly haven't watched that scene from the Office, so that clip from TheOdd1sOut would be his only source of reference
The typo part reminds me of when I was trying to register for college, but I was having trouble because there was something wrong with my SAT. Turns out they logged the year that I took it as "81" and not "18". Luckily it was resolved in time.
@@mrafabrizi The system interpreted it as 1981 (there was only the last two digits of the year). Because of this it was automatically flagged as being too out of date (if I recall correctly the SAT needed to be taken within the last 3-5 years or something along the lines of that). What's funny though is that anyone who took the SAT in 2018 certainly wasn't around back in 1981. I have no idea how it wasn't automatically flagged in their system that it said I took my SAT two decades before I was even born. Maybe I'm just that smart.
Not quite the same but becuase of a look up error here in the UK my Dad was declared dead due to having the same name and birthdate as someone who had actually died. It took him having a trip to court and even having the testimony of the relatives of the person who had actually died to have it reversed.
That's almost merciful compared to just telling someone "Well even though you're not dead, you're already legally dead so deal with it, not our problem" like geez, you might as well be dead at that point and if they're going to be that unhelpful at least offer to pay for a ride to another country or something.
Man this brings back memories. After my ex lost the custody case, she tried to have me declared deceased by a court in PA, while i was living in NY. A Judge in Maine, where the custody hearing had been settled after 5 years, caught wind of the matter when he was questioned on the last time he had seen or heard from me, which was less than 2 years prior. I was contacted, and thankfully able to put a stop to things before they escalated. To my irritation, she was not punished for this, with her defense being her mental illness and drug use (which was the whole reason for leaving her, and taking the twins when i did)
@@catman-du8927 Someone with crippling mental health issues and drug use probably aren't the ones best to seek for any sense of reason. Doesn't sound like her attempt made it very far. A bold strategy, Cotton, but it didn't pay off.
A friend of the family was pronounced legally dead after he was mistaken for an homonym who really died. lemme tell you : it's a nightmare. he couldn't renew his ID and driver's licence, couldn't pass the vehicule check up you need to pass regularly or renew its insurance (making it illegal to drive), his bank account got forcibly closed, he couldn't get any of his retirement benefits or social security / medical insurance payouts... He even couldn't legally live at his place since he was renting it - a dead person cannot sign a rent after all. Also, he wasn't able to take trains or planes anymore. He battled the administration for 3 years to be legally alive again. Funny thing ? The dead guy was still legally alive in the meantime. By the way, this was in France.
I had a keystroke error but it was on my criminal record not a mistake that declared me dead. I had a ghost conviction that caused my license to be suspended because of a typo and couldnt get it fixed because they couldnt find the case that caused it to be suspended. took 5 years to get it sorted out and get a new license. Wound up losing my job, my health insurance (which is a nightmare because im a cancer survivor), and had to move back in with my parents. Still havent gotten a job with health benefits and have no health insurance. All because someone made a mistake on some paperwork then the bureaucrats involved kept saying they couldnt do anything unless i could provide a case number for a case that never existed smh
It was a thought experiment, written for practice in writing actual protocols by students (or recent graduates) of a war college. Most of the content was pilfered from actual protocols.
Yup, That "typo" happened to me last year. Fortunately, I found out a few days later, so it only took a few months to clear up most of it. Still, there are banking repercussions of having been formerly "deceased"
This happened with an uncle of mine, when I was very little he decided to go mining with some friends, he and his friends disappeared in the Amazonian Rain Forest for almost 10 years, he was declared dead after 5 or 6 years, I don't remember exactly. One day he just showed up at my grandma's house. It turns out he became lost in the jungle and lived with some natives for a while, and then came back on foot home, living in the streets along the way, almost 4.000 kilometers. His luck is that, here in Brazil, is fairly easy to reverse a death certificate. Two of his brothers went with him to a notary's office to prove his identity and they remade his documents, since in Brazil they don't do background checks for most jobs, he had a normal life after this.
You guys REALLY have to start drawing noses on your realistic character portraits, because those unholy uncanny valley abominationa you show are the stuff of nightmares
Most of the 'illegal' deaths comes from funeral directors, typos in hospitals, typos at SSA screwing up your records. I knew about this horror and when my mother died I triple checked that the funeral director reported her SSAN correctly so it didn't happen to someone else..
A family friend tried to collect her prescription, they informed her that she couldn't as she'd just been declared dead. She asked how tf that's possible, she's standing right there, and the receptionist at the GP surgery was adamant that no, she was definitely deceased. Took weeks to rectify the issue and there was an investigation into how there was only a tick box to declare someone dead on their system. She moved GP practices after that, as you can imagine.
I used to work at the CRA (Canada's version of the IRS) and they have a procedure for correcting an incorrect death entered into the system. I even resurrected a guy once. He was a good sport and we were joking and laughing the whole time. Fortunately, those people are only dead for tax purposes, so they face none of the complications the people you mention did.
I went to school with a guy who, a few years before, was crossing a flooded street. He asked his friend a question and failed to get a response turned and saw that his friend was gone. There had not been enough time for the friend to get to a place where he couldn't be seen, especially considering the hip deep water. Thinking his friend had tripped on something he back tracked to see if he could find his friend and nearly fell into an open man hole. The manhole led to the storm sewer that, because it carried only storm water drained directly into the bay. Though the kid's body was never recovered he was declaimed dead right away, as there was no doubt what had happened to him. The currents running through the flooded storm sewer system were quite strong, and from where that man hole was, there was nowhere that you could get out between that manhole and the outlet into the bay. I would have taken several minutes to get to the bay, so there was no doubt that he had drowned.
It's unfortunate how many people are lost to the hazards of floodwaters every year. It's incredibly easy to underestimate just how dangerous it is to be in a flooded area.
Who leaves manholes open, even when there aren’t floods that’s extremely dangerous. Also, crossing running water even just hip-deep is also dangerous. If the current is strong enough it can be very low and still take you with it
@@DeathnoteBB You severely underestimate the power of floodwater. Those covers pop off immediately when the upstream pressure rises. I've personally seen a fountain over a foot high coming from a flooded over manhole.
To be fair you can't just accept the person who "came back to life" to be the same person as the one who died, that's how identity theft can happen. But surely there have to be tests to prove it is the same person, or there should be. One can't just go "Sorry, you should have escaped your kidnapper a few years earlier, you are now legally dead and there's nothing we can do about it"
I like how only a portion of the video only covers the "error" part of the typo death, and doesn't even cover how it could happen. In Judy's case, her social security number was read wrong. There.
I remember the Brenda Heist case. Her children want nothing to do with her because she abandoned them when they thought something terrible had happened to her. She was denied housing assistance, which is hard to get anyway in many places because of long waiting lists and a lack of affordable housing. I've been through it and it is completely unacceptable in a country like the US. But she ended up homeless anyway because she joined some drifters. I understand it was a mental breakdown and I've known people who chose to be homeless due to mental illness that they refused to treat. Sadly those people both died of hypothermia despite being offered housing by their family. So Brenda Heist must have been in a very bad place in order to choose to stay homeless and without contact to her children.
People are used to me vanishing for long periods of time so it would take at least a few years for anyone to worry. I stopped disappearing from home but I still disappear online occasionally. It’s just who I am. Rovers gotta wander.
My dad once got a piece of mail from the hospital claiming he was dead. He called the hospital and they apologized, telling him some glitch or typo had caused their system to register like 20-30 patients as deceased. They fixed it and it was fine. Gave us all a good laugh. 😄
If that happened to me I would open a funeral home. Avoids the potential skepticism of a future employer and makes me immensely qualified to run the business
Loved this topic for a video. These odd facts are always enlightening to those little parts of life we aren't often shown or never think about. Your doing God's work Brew
Totally guessing here, but were you to commit some crime, then you would (legally) be considered a "harmful force" rather than a person, and so any and all amount of retribution could be thrown at you with zero (legal) consequences. Could be wrong though! It's a good question.
@@Grandosco that's like an animal invading a town and doing chaos. It won't go to a tribunal but would get something. An animal is sent to animal cares or the nature. A person could go to some prison or smth
I love how Brew is behind the couch with Grill and Quiz, not some empty couch to give it more life! feels like a group of friends telling bizarre stories to each other and it's cute and warming really love this episode too, it's kinda scary how you can be legally dead, even if you show up alive
So... what is the typo that causes this, what were they trying to write and who (can change your alive status)? Maybe it's because I'm not a native english speaker, but I didn't really get why this is a typo or what kind of typo, because I relate that to making a mistake while writing something.
I'm guessing that someone accidentally changes a field in an official database that says you're dead? I'm not quite sure how you do this accidentally though - surely the system should ask for date of death and evidence, i.e. a death certificate?
@@hannahk1306 In Sweden this happened recently, the doctors can just type in the name in a database and get a list with all the people with that name. Then they have to click on the name and they can declare them dead further down on that page. The doctor in Sweden declared the wrong person dead because she was lazy and didn't check the date of birth and other info, so an elderly lady with the same name as the deceased was suddenly without banking accounts and got into lots of problems just because of that. I don't know how it works in other countries but the systems are probably similar.
This sounds like a very much US and developing nation problem. Where you can live a long time without needing any government check of not being legally dead, (say stuff connected to your ID, drivers license and everywhere it basically needs a connection with a government database). Here in most EU nations? Good luck! Can't rent, can't get a hotel, can't get salary (legally).
No, this is clearly NOT a regular US problem. Most Americans don't run off and join homeless hitchhikers, nor do most of us have to deal with typos. We all daily deal with "sTufF cOnNeCteD tO oUr ID", too 🤣. Your "European better than" is showing.
@@NEPAAlchey yeah especially the surviving silent generation members, it wasn't a requirement that births outside hospitals be registered with BDM pre WW2 in a lot of places so you hear every so often of an octogenarian who is running into issues just trying to start a bank account after their partner has passed or wanting to vote and not being able to get on the rolls because of it.
my stepdad is legally dead. He still goes to work every day, and i see him every day. No clue why he's legally dead, but i can now say "my stepdad is a zombie", and i'll be right!
"Didn't you have yourself declared legally dead for tax purposes?" "Tax purposes shmax purposes. You take one nap in a ditch and they start declaring you this and that."
Reliu: I'm alive!! Why don't you just let me live my life?!? Court: nah dude, too late you're already legally dead.. even though you actually aren't lol
I found it more interesting that even a ex wife is higher on the hierarchy then your parents. Never been married so i dont know all the legal stuff that come with it, but you would think if your lover/former lover claims you are dead and files a report, your mom or dad would at least be contacted to confirm or something (assuming theyre alive)
I have heard that committing a minor crime can help (you have to be considered alive if you are considered a criminal). But I'm not sure it actually works (and where it does), and it isn't good advice in any case.
This reminds me of the song: 'het regent zonnestralen'. A song in Dutch about a man whose car crashed with someone else in it. Because noone would care if he was dead, he decided to begin a new life.
There are many cases like those in India too, in most of the cases the culprits were the relatives or friends , who declared an individual dead just in order to get their all the belongings , and the sad thing is that in most of the cases the individual never got his or her identity back .
I knew somebody who was registered dead when they were a child. They didn't know until they were trying to get a passport, it took a few months to clear up but didn't cause any other problems because it was the late 80's.
My bank once sent a letter asking what to do about my account since I was dead. Turned out someone with the same name died and they didn't even check whether it was the same person. So these things do happen.
4:15: The fact that you would mention Lititz, Pennsylvania is impressive because I live there. So you're talking about something that happened in my local area --- though it happened before I moved there.
My dad was declared dead twice. The military came to our house and picked him up and whisked him away somewhere and then brought him back after. Then he had to goto the SSI office and get a new SSN.
there's a guy I know a family friend who was declared dead he's been fighting against this claim for a few years now he's had to fight to get any of his taxes back as well as the stimulus's
As a romanian, this case was hilarious to all of us. Sadly, it's not like we have only one case of this, it's insane how often they say a person died then we find out it's someone else.
I have to wonder what the legal implications are if you're declared dead for committing a crime, can you charge someone who is legally dead? Can you punish someone who is legally dead? How do you give them a "Life sentence" in such a case
my mom is somehow considered dead to the tax bureaus, but not legally Dead dead, which we found out at exactly the worst time--when we were looking for a car loan.
A patient at the pharmacy had this done to him; the government made a mistake a claimed he was legally dead. He was still having trouble with fighting for his right to be alive when I quit.
5:13 me when Iron Triangle Railpark Fostoria, OH, railroad triangle of the B&O, C&O and NKP now CSX and NS, one of the best train watching spots I have ever been to
I still would have liked to know how these people went missing so long, like what did they do? I know the lady went homeless but what about the other two? Unless I just missed something
The first was explained. He got a job in another country and cut himself off from people back home. He only returned when his documentation couldn't be renewed.
I once saw a movie in which during a hacking attack, hackers cracked the government database and change his records to having recently died. I never really thought that could be a thing until now. Once I went to change banks and while withdrawing the little I had in there the person doing the withdrawal asked to see my ID. He commented that the drivers license was expired as if he couldn't complete the transaction. So because bank policy probably stated somewhere that the ID card had to be valid, there was going to be a problem. As if an invalid ID card that had expired a few months ago meant that I had stopped being me. Luckily I pointed out to him that they had sent me a sticker which I had placed on the back of the ID card card stating that card validity has been extended for a year. It's troubling to think what would have happened if the card was really expired.
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My grandmother has been considered dead by the government because of a typo. But it was easy to solve after we realized it.
A dead patient in my doctor's office turned up for a previously scheduled appt. Shocking for everyone. Eventually the patient connected her "death" to her purse that was stolen recently. The person using the stolen health card had died.
I wanted to throw out a video idea for you. I have a condition known as Aphantisa, or a lack of the "minds eye." I think a video going into this condition might be helpful because most people, including myself, don't even know this exists even if they have it.
the idea that the law could just let people be claimed dead with the clear knowledge that theyre alive is honestly terrifying
I mean identity theft is a possibility but the events described in this video were a bit silly, it would have been pretty easy to just declare them alive again once you take a quick look at their face.
the government can’t even keep track of whose alive or dead but socialist think it will go over very well when the “proletariat” takes over all private property
@@lindaflores6326 or a dna test
@@draconisthewyvern3664 and guess what the government can do to take over your property?
Yes, declare you dead... If there are no next of kin (not uncommon these days) everything falls to the government unless there's a will and those are easy to "disappear" especially as they have to be claimed in a timely manner and if nobody knows you're dead until that period expires...
Gives life in prison a twist ... Well he's dead so
Imagine being too bureaucratic to accept the fact that the man speaking to you is not actually dead.
What would a bureaucrat do? If there isn't a form to fill out, they can't do anything.
Just look at Congress.
@@tom4ivo Fine them.
I would suggest that if they decide to declare you dead, your best option would be assault one of them, then they would certainly want speed up the process to make sure you be alive, so you could be punished by law made by them.
I can.
Reminds me of when my mom tried to get my brothers birth certificate after he was born. The paperwork got lost or misplaced and, as a result, she had a really tough time proving she gave birth to him. After several months they managed to sort it out and she was finally able to get it.
Did that make him a different age on the papers?
DNA testing could have also worked
Nothing of this level but my mother had to provide documents of my name change for something or other but misplaced them. When she called the department in charge of this they said that those documents 'didn't exist', so she had to re-change my name. She then found the old documents again. Kinda crazy that they can just 'lose' stuff like that though.
@@monroerobbins7551 No, they got his correct date of birth, as far as I know, we celebrate that as his birthday in any case. The only thing is the date is was issued is several months off from his birthdate compared to mine which is only a few days.
@@flippyflare1336 They might have done DNA testing, I can't say for certain what was done. I just know they had to prove it was hers and that she had given birth to him.
i mean, if you dont contact your wife in 17 years and then just "show up", i think you got bigger issues than being pronounced legally dead
Well his wife was cheating on him and he was in debt so he didn't really care anymore and was just like "aight im heading out"
@@lindaflores6326 He was also cheating on her at that point so the relationship didn’t really exist when he disappeared
Yeah like about to be murdered
Welcome to Romania.
*Fires Deagle*
"Hey, judge man, I'm in good heal-"
Judge: IDENTITY THEFT IS NOT A JOKE, JIM! MILLIONS OF FAMILIES SUFFER FROM IT EVERY YEAR!
Odd1sout reference
@@indonesianv1nce427 it's actually a The Office reference
@@xpickpoke2266 o
@@indonesianv1nce427 Didn't the fact that he drew himself as Dwite in that scene tick you off that it was a reference?
@@psychopompous489 TheOdd1sOut put that reference in a video, and they clearly haven't watched that scene from the Office, so that clip from TheOdd1sOut would be his only source of reference
“Hey I’m aliv-“
Court: *NO YOU ARE DEAD NOW*
Congratulations,you are now DEAD
AND YOU STAY DEAD!! *As a line of armed men come out of one of the rooms*
69th like heheheh
The heavy is dead!
RUclipsrs be like:
Imagine going to your house and the cops say, "I'll need to arrest you sir, you're dead"
better than having someone just shoot you to make sure
or go "we've recovered the body, time for the buriel"
or...
*cremation*
“YOU’LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE”
@@nonexistential7057 that’s so cleaver
"You want me dead? Then let's fight to the death!"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
That would be the weirdest sentence
Ngl, this sounds like some real life SCP stuff right here. A cognito hazard in our very own legal system.
SCP AAAAAAAAAAH
@purumichi海魚 Don't let them find out you know. 10 PM GMT, at the dumpsters behind the high school.
@@CIoudStriker bro wth
@@CIoudStriker im not in high school
@@CIoudStriker REAL
The typo part reminds me of when I was trying to register for college, but I was having trouble because there was something wrong with my SAT. Turns out they logged the year that I took it as "81" and not "18". Luckily it was resolved in time.
81... 💀
@@sannsanniii nearly 40 years ago LOL!
I think he meant that he took it on 2018 and he put it as 2081 lol
@@mrafabrizi We need to go back... BACK TO THE FUTURE !!!
@@mrafabrizi The system interpreted it as 1981 (there was only the last two digits of the year). Because of this it was automatically flagged as being too out of date (if I recall correctly the SAT needed to be taken within the last 3-5 years or something along the lines of that).
What's funny though is that anyone who took the SAT in 2018 certainly wasn't around back in 1981. I have no idea how it wasn't automatically flagged in their system that it said I took my SAT two decades before I was even born. Maybe I'm just that smart.
Not quite the same but becuase of a look up error here in the UK my Dad was declared dead due to having the same name and birthdate as someone who had actually died.
It took him having a trip to court and even having the testimony of the relatives of the person who had actually died to have it reversed.
A coworker got his bank accounts closed, because his grandpa had the same name and died. They didn't even use the same bank or live in the same city.
Imagine what it’s like to be someone named John Smith that would probably happen to you a lot
wow couldnt they like look at the ID number or something
@@edsweet2858 You called?
@@prime_optimus is close enough XD
Imagine being legally dead and after going to court for it they just shoot you instead
Oh you're not dead?
Let's fix that
@@bea3056 exactly
That's almost merciful compared to just telling someone "Well even though you're not dead, you're already legally dead so deal with it, not our problem" like geez, you might as well be dead at that point and if they're going to be that unhelpful at least offer to pay for a ride to another country or something.
@@bea3056 o_o
Man this brings back memories.
After my ex lost the custody case, she tried to have me declared deceased by a court in PA, while i was living in NY. A Judge in Maine, where the custody hearing had been settled after 5 years, caught wind of the matter when he was questioned on the last time he had seen or heard from me, which was less than 2 years prior.
I was contacted, and thankfully able to put a stop to things before they escalated.
To my irritation, she was not punished for this, with her defense being her mental illness and drug use (which was the whole reason for leaving her, and taking the twins when i did)
You did the right thing dude.
Leaving her for drug use is perfectly reasonable.
So where are the children? How could you ex claim you were dead if the children were with you?
@@catman-du8927 it was probably after the case.
@@catman-du8927 Someone with crippling mental health issues and drug use probably aren't the ones best to seek for any sense of reason. Doesn't sound like her attempt made it very far. A bold strategy, Cotton, but it didn't pay off.
I feel sorry for you sorry is everything okay now
Hey finally watched one freshly brewed… I’ll see myself out
someone stop this madman T-T
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A friend of the family was pronounced legally dead after he was mistaken for an homonym who really died.
lemme tell you : it's a nightmare. he couldn't renew his ID and driver's licence, couldn't pass the vehicule check up you need to pass regularly or renew its insurance (making it illegal to drive), his bank account got forcibly closed, he couldn't get any of his retirement benefits or social security / medical insurance payouts... He even couldn't legally live at his place since he was renting it - a dead person cannot sign a rent after all. Also, he wasn't able to take trains or planes anymore.
He battled the administration for 3 years to be legally alive again. Funny thing ? The dead guy was still legally alive in the meantime.
By the way, this was in France.
I had a keystroke error but it was on my criminal record not a mistake that declared me dead. I had a ghost conviction that caused my license to be suspended because of a typo and couldnt get it fixed because they couldnt find the case that caused it to be suspended. took 5 years to get it sorted out and get a new license. Wound up losing my job, my health insurance (which is a nightmare because im a cancer survivor), and had to move back in with my parents. Still havent gotten a job with health benefits and have no health insurance. All because someone made a mistake on some paperwork then the bureaucrats involved kept saying they couldnt do anything unless i could provide a case number for a case that never existed smh
That's messed up
Why are you supposed to be the one to come up with the case number? Shouldn't they be the ones to provide it to you?
That is honestly terrifying that a typo can cause your life to be irreversibly damaged.
@@emperorlizZ messed up beyond words
i hope you're back on your feet now :c
Fun fact: the army actually has a protocol in the case of a zombie outbreak.
bro i just watched the hai video about it
Truth
iirc it was reversed during trump's presidency? has it been put in order again?
@@ec2552 It wasn't ever taken out
It was a thought experiment, written for practice in writing actual protocols by students (or recent graduates) of a war college. Most of the content was pilfered from actual protocols.
The illustration of the account clerk will forever haunt my dreams. Her noseless visage follows me.
I wonderd if anyone else noticed that lol
@@jacejohnson9394 Their illustrator never gives anyone noses!! It's so weird! XD Everyone looks like Voldemort!
😂
Yup, That "typo" happened to me last year. Fortunately, I found out a few days later, so it only took a few months to clear up most of it. Still, there are banking repercussions of having been formerly "deceased"
what was the "typo"?
This happened with an uncle of mine, when I was very little he decided to go mining with some friends, he and his friends disappeared in the Amazonian Rain Forest for almost 10 years, he was declared dead after 5 or 6 years, I don't remember exactly. One day he just showed up at my grandma's house. It turns out he became lost in the jungle and lived with some natives for a while, and then came back on foot home, living in the streets along the way, almost 4.000 kilometers. His luck is that, here in Brazil, is fairly easy to reverse a death certificate. Two of his brothers went with him to a notary's office to prove his identity and they remade his documents, since in Brazil they don't do background checks for most jobs, he had a normal life after this.
Donald Millers resemblance to "Master" McDonald Miller is striking 😂
Why are we still here ? Just to suffer ?
@@Gatorade69 42
No Snake, hungry for words!
hungry for worms!!
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You guys REALLY have to start drawing noses on your realistic character portraits, because those unholy uncanny valley abominationa you show are the stuff of nightmares
@Katsuki Bakugou No it isn't. There's nothing funny about someone looking like they've been decomposing for a few months.
they just look like voldemort
It would be the same as drawing everyone realistically and not giving them eyebrows.
Worst part is the illustrators did an amazing job with the storybof the man that drank nitro. Then one vid later they go back to the old style
They look like those cloning aliens from Matt Smiths series' of doctor who
Most of the 'illegal' deaths comes from funeral directors, typos in hospitals, typos at SSA screwing up your records. I knew about this horror and when my mother died I triple checked that the funeral director reported her SSAN correctly so it didn't happen to someone else..
Nice to see you caring about others even directly after your mother's death!
A family friend tried to collect her prescription, they informed her that she couldn't as she'd just been declared dead. She asked how tf that's possible, she's standing right there, and the receptionist at the GP surgery was adamant that no, she was definitely deceased. Took weeks to rectify the issue and there was an investigation into how there was only a tick box to declare someone dead on their system. She moved GP practices after that, as you can imagine.
I used to work at the CRA (Canada's version of the IRS) and they have a procedure for correcting an incorrect death entered into the system. I even resurrected a guy once. He was a good sport and we were joking and laughing the whole time.
Fortunately, those people are only dead for tax purposes, so they face none of the complications the people you mention did.
I didn't know tax collectors were able to resurrect people after they were dead
"You're dead!"
"No, I'm alive."
"So you're undead?
"Yes."
"THEN YOU MUST BE A ZOMBIE!"
"Hey, I'm alive!"
*Judge loads shotgun,* "I thought you would say that."
I learned about this from a poor guy on tiktok who has been fighting for years to recover his life
I went to school with a guy who, a few years before, was crossing a flooded street. He asked his friend a question and failed to get a response turned and saw that his friend was gone. There had not been enough time for the friend to get to a place where he couldn't be seen, especially considering the hip deep water.
Thinking his friend had tripped on something he back tracked to see if he could find his friend and nearly fell into an open man hole. The manhole led to the storm sewer that, because it carried only storm water drained directly into the bay.
Though the kid's body was never recovered he was declaimed dead right away, as there was no doubt what had happened to him.
The currents running through the flooded storm sewer system were quite strong, and from where that man hole was, there was nowhere that you could get out between that manhole and the outlet into the bay.
I would have taken several minutes to get to the bay, so there was no doubt that he had drowned.
It's unfortunate how many people are lost to the hazards of floodwaters every year. It's incredibly easy to underestimate just how dangerous it is to be in a flooded area.
But in this case he actually is dead and wasn’t just declared dead even though being alive
Who leaves manholes open, even when there aren’t floods that’s extremely dangerous. Also, crossing running water even just hip-deep is also dangerous. If the current is strong enough it can be very low and still take you with it
@@DeathnoteBB You severely underestimate the power of floodwater. Those covers pop off immediately when the upstream pressure rises. I've personally seen a fountain over a foot high coming from a flooded over manhole.
@@Hugealligator254 and... that's the head scratcher right there🤔
One of my old teachers was proclaimed “dead”. It was just a mistake/typo when her mother died they put her name on her mother’s death certificate.
To be fair you can't just accept the person who "came back to life" to be the same person as the one who died, that's how identity theft can happen. But surely there have to be tests to prove it is the same person, or there should be. One can't just go "Sorry, you should have escaped your kidnapper a few years earlier, you are now legally dead and there's nothing we can do about it"
I love brew's vids so much they are informative and fun so my mom can't say I'm not watching anything educative
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@FlamingToad My favourite so far is when it translated "haha" to "lol" .
I like how only a portion of the video only covers the "error" part of the typo death, and doesn't even cover how it could happen.
In Judy's case, her social security number was read wrong. There.
Imagine dying because of a typo
Why the real characters are drawn without noses, are they Voldermort’s descendents?
I've also wondered this very much since I started watching
Im genuinely surprised that Grill knows about the Sackville-Bagginses
I remember the Brenda Heist case. Her children want nothing to do with her because she abandoned them when they thought something terrible had happened to her. She was denied housing assistance, which is hard to get anyway in many places because of long waiting lists and a lack of affordable housing. I've been through it and it is completely unacceptable in a country like the US. But she ended up homeless anyway because she joined some drifters. I understand it was a mental breakdown and I've known people who chose to be homeless due to mental illness that they refused to treat. Sadly those people both died of hypothermia despite being offered housing by their family. So Brenda Heist must have been in a very bad place in order to choose to stay homeless and without contact to her children.
Welp I guess I won’t ever make a typo again…
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A new Brew Video to see, intro is interesting off the bat too.
I'm so glad this episode wasn't about wrongly prescribed medicines and doses, this was a bit more cheerful?
I’d love to see how the recording/writing process works with this group
People are used to me vanishing for long periods of time so it would take at least a few years for anyone to worry. I stopped disappearing from home but I still disappear online occasionally. It’s just who I am. Rovers gotta wander.
you visit the backrooms once in a while
I hope we all learned something:
-Double check your spelling
-Call your loved ones every once in a while so you aren't dead.
My dad once got a piece of mail from the hospital claiming he was dead. He called the hospital and they apologized, telling him some glitch or typo had caused their system to register like 20-30 patients as deceased. They fixed it and it was fine. Gave us all a good laugh. 😄
If that happened to me I would open a funeral home. Avoids the potential skepticism of a future employer and makes me immensely qualified to run the business
And so the seeds of a new source of anxiety was sown amongst the masses...
Definitely not as intense as being declared dead but some person got my birthdate wrong for my social security. It took forever to get it fixed too
Loved this topic for a video. These odd facts are always enlightening to those little parts of life we aren't often shown or never think about. Your doing God's work Brew
Even RUclipsrs need 2 weeks paid vacay..welcome back brew!
Had a question, but can’t find the answer. If you are declared legally dead, are you above any laws, and can then commit any crime? Curious
Only one way to find out
@@mattwhaley1865 *commits arson*
Totally guessing here, but were you to commit some crime, then you would (legally) be considered a "harmful force" rather than a person, and so any and all amount of retribution could be thrown at you with zero (legal) consequences.
Could be wrong though! It's a good question.
@@Grandosco that's like an animal invading a town and doing chaos. It won't go to a tribunal but would get something. An animal is sent to animal cares or the nature. A person could go to some prison or smth
Objection! My client can't be the murderer, because... He is legally dead!
*gasp*
I love how Brew is behind the couch with Grill and Quiz, not some empty couch to give it more life! feels like a group of friends telling bizarre stories to each other and it's cute and warming
really love this episode too, it's kinda scary how you can be legally dead, even if you show up alive
I feel like if it was a keystroke error, who ever made that error should be liable for any trouble you have afterwards.
So... what is the typo that causes this, what were they trying to write and who (can change your alive status)? Maybe it's because I'm not a native english speaker, but I didn't really get why this is a typo or what kind of typo, because I relate that to making a mistake while writing something.
I wouldn't complain if the people handling my student loan thought I was dead, but anyone more important would be bad news.
I'm guessing that someone accidentally changes a field in an official database that says you're dead? I'm not quite sure how you do this accidentally though - surely the system should ask for date of death and evidence, i.e. a death certificate?
@@hannahk1306 In Sweden this happened recently, the doctors can just type in the name in a database and get a list with all the people with that name. Then they have to click on the name and they can declare them dead further down on that page. The doctor in Sweden declared the wrong person dead because she was lazy and didn't check the date of birth and other info, so an elderly lady with the same name as the deceased was suddenly without banking accounts and got into lots of problems just because of that. I don't know how it works in other countries but the systems are probably similar.
Therapist: Noseless Brenda Heist isn't real, she can't hurt you.
Noseless Brenda Heist:
ngl, i don't think brenda wanted to be drawn like that
@@DeitiesDogma would nostrils make it better or worse?
@@corpsepatty6730 Scarier lol
@@DeitiesDogma maybe they should draw them all with medical masks, so you can't see their missing noses.
This sounds like a very much US and developing nation problem. Where you can live a long time without needing any government check of not being legally dead, (say stuff connected to your ID, drivers license and everywhere it basically needs a connection with a government database).
Here in most EU nations? Good luck! Can't rent, can't get a hotel, can't get salary (legally).
No, this is clearly NOT a regular US problem. Most Americans don't run off and join homeless hitchhikers, nor do most of us have to deal with typos. We all daily deal with "sTufF cOnNeCteD tO oUr ID", too 🤣.
Your "European better than" is showing.
@@juliannah5721 Hard disagree, you'd be surprised how many people in the US don't have ID. It also doesn't matter if a typo gets you marked deceased.
@@NEPAAlchey yeah especially the surviving silent generation members, it wasn't a requirement that births outside hospitals be registered with BDM pre WW2 in a lot of places so you hear every so often of an octogenarian who is running into issues just trying to start a bank account after their partner has passed or wanting to vote and not being able to get on the rolls because of it.
@@juliannah5721 You sound very bitter girl... what european hurt you?
The US absolutely needs an ID lol?
"Judge, I'm uh.. not dead."
The judge, pulling out a handgun: *"I'll make sure to change that."*
my stepdad is legally dead. He still goes to work every day, and i see him every day. No clue why he's legally dead, but i can now say "my stepdad is a zombie", and i'll be right!
"Didn't you have yourself declared legally dead for tax purposes?" "Tax purposes shmax purposes. You take one nap in a ditch and they start declaring you this and that."
Reliu: I'm alive!! Why don't you just let me live my life?!?
Court: nah dude, too late you're already legally dead.. even though you actually aren't lol
I found it more interesting that even a ex wife is higher on the hierarchy then your parents. Never been married so i dont know all the legal stuff that come with it, but you would think if your lover/former lover claims you are dead and files a report, your mom or dad would at least be contacted to confirm or something (assuming theyre alive)
I have heard that committing a minor crime can help (you have to be considered alive if you are considered a criminal). But I'm not sure it actually works (and where it does), and it isn't good advice in any case.
This reminds me of the song: 'het regent zonnestralen'. A song in Dutch about a man whose car crashed with someone else in it.
Because noone would care if he was dead, he decided to begin a new life.
There are many cases like those in India too, in most of the cases the culprits were the relatives or friends , who declared an individual dead just in order to get their all the belongings , and the sad thing is that in most of the cases the individual never got his or her identity back .
That's so messed up :(
I love that you added “Quiz” to the video! She only has a few video’s that she is in, so I am glad she is in this one!
I knew somebody who was registered dead when they were a child. They didn't know until they were trying to get a passport, it took a few months to clear up but didn't cause any other problems because it was the late 80's.
I get it that the main characters don't have noses but please draw them in for cartoon depictions of real people it looks so odd.
This freshly brewed coffe is pretty good
Zombies are just ghosts that clung on to their flesh
Aren't we all that?
WOah
Or flesh puppet through vodoo
ö you’re right!
necromancy is just healing without giving up
My bank once sent a letter asking what to do about my account since I was dead. Turned out someone with the same name died and they didn't even check whether it was the same person. So these things do happen.
4:15: The fact that you would mention Lititz, Pennsylvania is impressive because I live there. So you're talking about something that happened in my local area --- though it happened before I moved there.
I wonder if someone declared dead can face any charges after committing a crime.
My dad was declared dead twice. The military came to our house and picked him up and whisked him away somewhere and then brought him back after. Then he had to goto the SSI office and get a new SSN.
there's a guy I know a family friend who was declared dead he's been fighting against this claim for a few years now he's had to fight to get any of his taxes back as well as the stimulus's
It’s worth it not having to pay taxes though
If I’m declared dead then I can’t be charged for crimes I committed while dead.
That's why I like that in Finland you don't need to get your partner to sign divorce papers, just one person can file and get divorced on their own.
Thank you brew. First I was scared of office chairs and now I'm scared of existing
I just saw that video lol I'm dead
Hey, how do you make hooks that good?
My neighbor years ago disappeared and a missing persons was filed. She was just in a different state didn't tell anyone she left
As a romanian, this case was hilarious to all of us. Sadly, it's not like we have only one case of this, it's insane how often they say a person died then we find out it's someone else.
I have to wonder what the legal implications are if you're declared dead for committing a crime, can you charge someone who is legally dead? Can you punish someone who is legally dead? How do you give them a "Life sentence" in such a case
The man who missed the deadline should have been given a lifeline.
When is the next "On The Hill" episode coming out? I am really excited!
New Brew upload :0
My night has been made
This is why I'd never just leave and not tell anyone where I was. Knowing that somebody could just declare me legally dead scares me.
my mom is somehow considered dead to the tax bureaus, but not legally Dead dead, which we found out at exactly the worst time--when we were looking for a car loan.
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
It'd probably be easier to simply have a new identity created for oneself, like people in the witness protection program.
Hol' up! What is written on that certificate at 4:44?
A patient at the pharmacy had this done to him; the government made a mistake a claimed he was legally dead. He was still having trouble with fighting for his right to be alive when I quit.
I was declared dead several years ago, the process of 'coming back to life' Is not fun, like, at all.
5:13 me when Iron Triangle Railpark Fostoria, OH, railroad triangle of the B&O, C&O and NKP now CSX and NS, one of the best train watching spots I have ever been to
That subtle knowledge of The Hobbit that Grill just threw out there... Very nice.
A coincidental upload by Half as Intersting and Brew? The perfect day
I still would have liked to know how these people went missing so long, like what did they do? I know the lady went homeless but what about the other two? Unless I just missed something
The first was explained. He got a job in another country and cut himself off from people back home. He only returned when his documentation couldn't be renewed.
I once saw a movie in which during a hacking attack, hackers cracked the government database and change his records to having recently died. I never really thought that could be a thing until now.
Once I went to change banks and while withdrawing the little I had in there the person doing the withdrawal asked to see my ID. He commented that the drivers license was expired as if he couldn't complete the transaction. So because bank policy probably stated somewhere that the ID card had to be valid, there was going to be a problem. As if an invalid ID card that had expired a few months ago meant that I had stopped being me. Luckily I pointed out to him that they had sent me a sticker which I had placed on the back of the ID card card stating that card validity has been extended for a year. It's troubling to think what would have happened if the card was really expired.
My grandmother has been considered dead by the government because of a typo. But it was easy to solve after we realized it.
A dead patient in my doctor's office turned up for a previously scheduled appt. Shocking for everyone.
Eventually the patient connected her "death" to her purse that was stolen recently. The person using the stolen health card had died.
I wanted to throw out a video idea for you. I have a condition known as Aphantisa, or a lack of the "minds eye." I think a video going into this condition might be helpful because most people, including myself, don't even know this exists even if they have it.
I've actually heared of a bank believing someone being dead and therefore denying access to their bank account because of a typo.
These videos keep me going 😅