Well alex did claim a lot of things he had no idea about namely embryology and miscarriage well for one the quran talk's about the embryo and not the fetus to say that you can know the shape of the embryo due to miscarriage especially at that time is really stupid
I can picture Saad each week saying to himself, "Okay, let's try this..." before picking up his phone and calling. Honestly, it's getting pretty tiring listening to him week after week. Saad, you're not ever going to prove Islam to be true. All evidence will continue to indicate it to be nothing more than man made nonsense, just like all the other religions that you reject. Time to either let it go or admit to yourself you believe in it for irrational reasons.
It's frustrating, but indoctrination on a vulnerable, developing child's brain is profound and powerful and often life long lasting. We all know atheists who don't believe in supernatural anything, yet still struggle with fear of hell, and various similar subjects, thanks to that. So for someone who still believes, the grip of those ideas is going to be deeply ingrained and seeing and thinking their way out of it, particularly when surrounded by believers and further 'brainwashing' is extraordinarily difficult.
Roadstar1602 How is the Quraan man made nonsense. All of it makes sense all of it that can be proven by technology. So let’s discuss that? You’re very ignorant typical internet Atheist. This saad guy is not a qualified scholar does he even have a degree in physics? Why not take on a Muslim scholar with a PHD in physics I know a few.
@@zub41r75 The sun sets in a marsh makes sense and has been proven by technology? Muhammad rode to heaven on a winged horse makes sense and it's been proven by technology? Muhammad split the moon in two has been proven by technology and makes sense? A woman is fractionally as important as a man for giving testimony? No, the Quran does not make sense and has been disproven. It's barbaric, misogynistic, man-made nonsense and we are better for having moved beyond it.
Roadstar1602 amazing how u bring the miracles and not the prophecies first of all its a belief that he split the moon its also a miracle he rode on a winged horse also can u say that when muhammed pbuh said that arabs will compete in building tall towers a false prophecie when it came true prove that wrong
I find it funny that the Qur'an is only scientifically "acurate" after we understand the mysteries through science. Then the Muslims go and find something in there to paint the target around the supposed hit. What would impress me was if the book actually taught something useful way before science found out. Like if it told us the speed of light. Or "wash thine hands because there are unseen small animals that cause disease".
I don't know if saad reads the comments or not but the steps mentioned in the Qur'an are an exact copy of Galen's observations and contain the same inaccuracies as galen's did and galen lived atleast 300 years before the prophet was born so i hope that answers your question if there was any other book that mentioned the embryological stages. A Pakistani ex-muslim.
You could tell where this was going to go (nowhere) after Eric's first question "did you look into the facts we gave you that debunked you last time?", "uh.....yes, but.........." as NO, no he in NO WAY looked into this with an open mind. He thought "yeah yeah, that didn't work so let me try this" And no, he isn't interested in looking into beliefs counter to his own
It’s saad, so saad. It’s a saad saad situation, and it’s getting more and more absurd. It’s saad, so saad. why can’t we Talk Heathen over? Oh it seems to me, Presuppositionalism seems to be the hardest word.
@@kashifuddinahmed8383 For example: Don’t you know Cosmic Sceptic’s featured on a T.H. Vid, Feeling like a truth provider, looking like a little kid, You know cosmic sceptic mentioned “embryology,” The study of all pre-birth stages - the foetus is one of these, Cosmic Sceptic (Yeah yeah yeah!)
The "orbits" (loosely translated) of the sun and moon are mentioned in the verse in the context of the passage of night and day, which are actually caused by the rotation of the earth (important bit of information not mentioned in the Quran). Additionally, the critical astronomical fact of heliocentrism is the orbit of the earth (another important bit of information also not mentioned in the Quran), not that of the sun. And even if the sun did not orbit the galaxy, apologists would simply interpret the word as its arc traced across the celestial dome. The most plausible interpretation of the verse would be the geocentric model that held sway then, there and elsewhere. Continued invocation of this verse as scientific foreknowledge ought to be considered embarrassing.
Agreed. Additionally, the words for "orbit" and "revolving" in Q: 21:33 are not the words that modern Arabs use for those words. The word used for "orbit" in the Qur'an is "falak" which refers to the celestial spheres as that term was understood with the firmament model of the universe. The word for "revolving" in the Qur'an is "yasbahuna" which literally means "swimming" and refers to the belief that in the firmament, space was actually a liquid that bodies had to swim through to get to their destinations. In modern Arabic, the word for "orbit" is "medaar" meaning "that which goes in a circle" and the word for "revolve" is "yeduro" coming from the same root (going in a circle). It's embarrassing, for Muslims who continually claim that the truth of the Qur'an is only manifest in Arabic to ignore Arabic lexicon when they argue for things that are demonstrably false and whose falsity is only more apparent in Arabic.
quran isnt here to explain the fucking galaxy and every little detail its a book of signs and guidance also if u know soo much about quran what about the prophecies can u prove those wrong id like to see you try
That first minute. That's the problem. "it was interesting conversation" They always say that. But the point isn't to find it interesting and then completely ignore it Saad. The point is acknowledging all the ways you were wrong and LEARNING SOMETHING FROM IT.
The issue with all of Saad’s calls is that he doesn’t answer the difficult questions that confront his faulty logic, He simply moves on by saying something like “that’s interesting but also in the Koran etc.....”
Thoroughly desperate confirmation bias. What is transparently obvious is how little the authors of the Koran knew compared to what the Greeks had found out many years earlier. And if you want a book try the poem: "On the nature of things" by Lucretius, written almost a millenium before the Koran, which is full of scientific insights that far exceed the pathetic claims made for the Koran.
Hell, why don't they talk about galen, hypocrates, and pliny the elder? much earlier than the Quran, and the quran plagiarised them even their mistakes actually.
this show is a bullshit of science show it’s just putting honorable people who do believe in their Koran what’s wrong with this arrogant pimps making a show to put down Muslims - stupid!!! Why don’t they invite Islamic imams who can give clear answers to scientific sense in the Koran- just read it man! Instead of this stupid comments ...
This Quranic embryology debate can evolve into oriental embryosophy which can inform Greek philosophy to progress towards universal wisdom. There is a debate whether fetus is symbiotic or parasitic like leech which can inform abortion debate.
I'm an ex muslim atheist. I've read extensively about islam. The quran is not scientific at all. Just muslims are looking for some parallels to find miracles in it.
@@George-iv1hi Couldn't agree more. The cult of islam destroyed my life. I had to leave my family. They took all my savings and didn't leave me a penny. They threatened me. My life mission is to fight this evil with my knowledge and experience.
@@erosquorum8755 Such a "religion of peace". I was raised in Poland, catholic country. Christians are tolerant people - I am atheist, but nobody has any problem with this. I have many Christian friends and they are true friends, as for true muslims you never know. Islam spoiled their minds. What god would order scums (prophet and his companions) to kill and loot other his creation? What did Christians do to allah? They rejected the false prophet, because he was no prophet. For this he started to hate and to kill them when he gained enough power. He was common criminal, not any perfect man.
@@George-iv1hi Yes. If the follower of an ideology become fundamentalists and they don't blow up themselves among innocent people, then you know that ideology is okay. But islam is worst than a cancer. When a person puts a pedophile who dies 1400 years ago above the life of his/her loves ones, that ideology is not human. What I experienced because of islam can't be put to words. I left home sick with sever PTSD and anxiety attacks which would hospitalize me 2-3 times a week, kidney stones, and typhoid fever and I had like 30 k $ saving all was taken and I was also unemployed... had to live on the streets for months. They threatened to kill me like muslim killed a girl in kabul, Afghanistan the most barbaric way and burned her body. Now I'm the admin of a 17 k fb group for atheists. I also translated a few books from English to Dari (persian). I'm currently working on a few more books some to be translated some to be written. Anyway, thanks for the comments. I always feel exited to talk to fellow atheists.
Saad says he is looking for answers for questions that he has in regards to science, but he tells us that his research was using a book detailing the history of belief. Is he afraid of what he might find if he researches science?
That's the thing, these religious nuts (Christian, Muslim etc.) are told that if they need ANY answers to ANYTHING that they will find it in their special books, and becasue they are so open to context and interpretation they can basically fit whatever bullshit they want around the words and apply them to anything they want.
He's probably afraid of being disowned by his family/community, I swear my dad is similar. At least he's looking for answers and seems quite open-minded.
Alex isn't getting it here. He used a poor example of whether this guy would convert to Christianity if he found something similar. This is because Muslims believe the Bible is at least partially divine in nature, so a miracle there would support their Islamic belief given they think both books have divine origins A better example is to use the scripture of a non-Abrahamic faith instead.
You should always assume that no book about gods or religions are wrong as long as they are written by humans. When a book is produced out of thin air and hangs there for a week before it starts pouring words directly into the ears of everyone THEN we can talk!
Because you raised him up with your religion while claiming it was true and seeing others do the same has teached him that people think it was true. Kids are guillible and rely on their parents to tell them waht's true. You failed at your parental duty by feeding him lies.
@@AntitheistHuman i'm sorry. I jusr realized you mean the other variant of the praising: "my boy" when talking about Saad. I was rude and attacked you and i'm sorry for that
Even more appalling is that when Islam was shat into being the Middle East was at the height of intelligence, education, arts, industry, science etc. Within 100 years Islam brought the Middle East to its knees. Bottom of the civilized world. Islam is violent, merciless, deceptive and appalling.
Paul J Were these informations available 100 years ago ? - [x] 021.030 - [ ] Sahih International: Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe? 51 ,047 Sahih international: and the heaven we constructed with strength ,and indeed we are [its ]expander . 21 ,104 Sahih international: The day when we will fold the heaven like the folding of a [written]shit for the record , as we began the first creation ,we will repeat it [that’s a]promise binding upon us ,indeed ,we will do it .
Stefan Dingenouts : that’s because you don’t understand what you read or a typical atheist who fears the wind of truth that will shatter your foundation of lies .
In Chinese creation myth, the giant Pan Gu separates earth and heaven, yin and yang. Obviously they're talking about the Big Bang here, so Wu Kong exists.
Quran is very scientific: flat earth, sun setting in hot spring of water, baby from congealed clot of blood, stars as missiles to shoot at devils, and hundreds of such scientific "facts" more...
Lol George you clearly haven’t done your Tafseer analysis under the guidance and knowledge of Ibn Kathir and Ibn Abbas, I recommend you read them they will refute your points completely with a quiet convincing analysis
corydoras you haven’t looked into the moon splitting because an Indian King at the time saw the moon and travelled from India to Mecca and converted and was reported to build the first mosque in India before he died
@@vbandz2645 Prove it. Demonstrate that the moon was split in two. Demonstrate that such a beast as the Buraq ever existed. You people are brain-washed fuckwits.
I've actually nothing against this guy, but this is already the fifth call between TH and AXP. He didn't show any progress since the one where he said buying a child for marriage was a-ok for Mohammad because "today 9 year-olds use iphones"
@@suleymanbabak1973 and it's the 100+ call from someone making similar lame claims of science in religious texts ... it's tiresome, they just keep calling with the same lame arguments.
Doctor here The Qur'an mentions about an embryo not a foetus A foetus looks like a mini human with hands and legs an embryo looks like a leech An embryo is converted into a foetus in like 8weeks Which is two months Women miscarriage is most common at zero to six weeks and they menstruate at about thirty to fourty days A miscarriage at below eight weeks looks exactly as a big clot and it is perfectly normal for women to miss a menstural cycle so basically they have the miscarriage without realising they were even pregnant and bear in mind there was no science that they would call a random clot as there miscarriage So yes you were wrong please do your research as well Thank you for your time
4:10 imagine if one of the holly books in page one insted of talking about sun and 7 heaven , the creator said : and I created heaven and earth and by the way earth is around
@@sayno-toevil4753 There is no evidence that they do. Heck there is no clear definition of what a Jinn even is. And most conceptions would be incompatible with the laws of physics as we current understand them.
@@sayno-toevil4753 I don't believe everything I see on you-tube, because we live in an age when people can modify videos right on their phones, they don't even need a computer. Possession is not a thing that has ever been observed under controlled conditions. Again have to go back, if some one could prove that this can happen they would overturn a good chunk of modern science.
@@KonradZielinski I personally know people who are possessed by these devils in the past. btw I thought science believe aliens though. we believe the aliens are the jinns. of course the Quran does not say that but what other explanations are there, right?
"I'm not just going to blindly follow anything" Says the guy who is blindly following a book that says it's true... Saad, do yo honestly think that the person/persons who wrote the koran would list their sources, when they were intending to write a book to control a huge group of people because they say it was "inspired" by a god?!? It's impossible to take people like Saad serious when they come with nonsense like this.
The Quran in surah 86, that "man is created from ejected water that comes out from between the backbone & the rib cage." The Arabic word صُلب is backbone & تريبة to ترائب refers to rib cage chest.
I am going to assume that you're pointing out how wrong the Quran can get things because that is so wrong it's kind of funny. I think the point to take away is, the Quran gets some things wrong some things right, the things it gets right is not miraculous information (and the information that is claimed to be us usually very vague and requires ad hoc enterpretation) and the stuff it gets wrong is usually pretty damn wrong. Basicly what you would get if you took a look in any ancient text written by mere human beings.
You know what would have been impressive? If the book said man comes from the union of the sperm and a egg. The sperm comes from the testicles, fertilization happens inside the woman after it enters her egg. The man's seed determines if the baby will be a boy or girl. That would have been impressive. Not water from the backbone and ribcage.
That’s true. Science doesn’t take any religion, or lack of religion into account when practised. Both religion and atheism have nothing to do with science.
I just hope there was an exmuslim there because we hear these arguments so many times that we would debunk him in a second. The embryology in the Quran is very wrong and was copied by the Greek embryology written by Aristotle. Which was written 1400 before Islam came.
In islam we believe that god sent messengers to all the nations and also gave revelations to some of them so being a muslim and finding information with no way of explaining it wether it be in bible or torah or any other religious book will simply mean that it was a book reveiled by god and it won't weaken my faith in islam but will increase it as it proves the claim in Qur'an that god sent messengers to many nations
Then why didn't Islam independently arise in many nations? I mean seriously if when European explorers first reached the America's and/or Australia and found that the same religion had independently arisen in these places that would have been food for thought.
I think whatever you doing is just for to be famous or you are angry with your creator for something.that's why you just want to prove everyone wrong and whatever you doing is.right
No people being wrong is up to their own ideas, if you want to prove your god exists you have to actually be able to demonstrate that, that those who call in can't can only blame themselves.
Once again, you guys can’t read minds. And ppl asking why you-apparently-want us to believe as you do is not not them “trying to prove everything wrong”. Jeez…
These verses are 1400 years old .mr sarcastic . “Allah is He, who created the sun, the moon, and the stars (all) governed by laws under His commandment.” (7:54) - [ ] “And He subjected the sun and the moon (to His law); each one runs its course for a term appointed.” (13:2), (31:29), (35:13), and (39:5) - [ ] “God is the One Who created seven heavens and of the earth a similar number. The command descends upon them so that you know that God has power over all things and comprehends all things in His knowledge.” (65:12) - [ ] “And made the moon a light in their midst and made the sun as a (Glorious) lamp.” (71:16) - [ ] “It is He who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its orbit.” (21:33) - [ ] “And the moon, we have measured for her mansions (to traverse) till she returns like the old, (withered, and curved-up like a sickle) date-palm. It is not permitted for sun to catch-up the moon, nor can the night outstrip the day; each swims along in (its own) orbit.” (36:39-40) - [ ] “Consider those (stars) that rise only to set. And move (in their orbits) with steady motion. And float (through space) with floating serene. And yet overtake (one another) with swift overtaking. And thus fulfil the (Creator’s) behest!” (79:1-5) - [ ] 081 ,15 Sahih international : so I swear by the retreating stars - 081.016 : Sahih international : those that run their courses and disappear . “Then He turned to the sky when it had been gas and said to it aككnd the earth, condense willingly or unwillingly. And they said, “We condensed willingly.” (41:11) “And the universe, we constructed with power and skill and verily we are expanding it.” (51:47) “He Who created the seven heavens, one above another: No want of proportion will you see in the creation of Most Gracious, so turn your face again; Do you see any flaw ... .... And We have adorned the lowest heaven with lamps ....” (67:3-5) “The sun and moon (are subjected) to calculations.” (55:05)
@@paragonofvirtue270 What I like is irrelevant.What is true, what can be demonstrated to reflect reality is all that concerns me. I care if the things I believe are true, you appear to only be concerned with what makes one feel comfortable.
Do guys like this Saad REALLY believe what they are saying? He sounds like a decent person with a skull and a real brain inside it, but he STILL is talking like that? In the 21st century? I think he is just joking. What else CAN it be? :-) Hilarious! :-)
He starts with "my interpretation". Sorry, but if you have to interpret it to mean something scientific, then it probably isn't.
Well alex did claim a lot of things he had no idea about namely embryology and miscarriage well for one the quran talk's about the embryo and not the fetus to say that you can know the shape of the embryo due to miscarriage especially at that time is really stupid
@@kashifuddinahmed8383 u don't know anything.
Exactly dude.. They all have no clear idea. Its always interpretations.
Only interpretations ? You meant like Darwinism?
@@darwinistdelusions6504Ah, another moron.
I don't want to get into the last conversation we had...because you demonstrated that I was wrong and I'd rather continue pretending I was right.
He has to, given that he's from Pakista 😅
@@Gnostic_Atheist Remember, mate, there are a lot of Pakistani ex-Muslim Hindus, atheists and Christians as well.
God giving us germ theory and the periodic table earlier would've been beneficial
I can picture Saad each week saying to himself, "Okay, let's try this..." before picking up his phone and calling. Honestly, it's getting pretty tiring listening to him week after week. Saad, you're not ever going to prove Islam to be true. All evidence will continue to indicate it to be nothing more than man made nonsense, just like all the other religions that you reject. Time to either let it go or admit to yourself you believe in it for irrational reasons.
Roadstar1602 tiring!Painful is the adjective I’d use
It's frustrating, but indoctrination on a vulnerable, developing child's brain is profound and powerful and often life long lasting. We all know atheists who don't believe in supernatural anything, yet still struggle with fear of hell, and various similar subjects, thanks to that. So for someone who still believes, the grip of those ideas is going to be deeply ingrained and seeing and thinking their way out of it, particularly when surrounded by believers and further 'brainwashing' is extraordinarily difficult.
Roadstar1602 How is the Quraan man made nonsense. All of it makes sense all of it that can be proven by technology. So let’s discuss that? You’re very ignorant typical internet Atheist. This saad guy is not a qualified scholar does he even have a degree in physics? Why not take on a Muslim scholar with a PHD in physics I know a few.
@@zub41r75 The sun sets in a marsh makes sense and has been proven by technology? Muhammad rode to heaven on a winged horse makes sense and it's been proven by technology? Muhammad split the moon in two has been proven by technology and makes sense? A woman is fractionally as important as a man for giving testimony? No, the Quran does not make sense and has been disproven. It's barbaric, misogynistic, man-made nonsense and we are better for having moved beyond it.
Roadstar1602 amazing how u bring the miracles and not the prophecies first of all its a belief that he split the moon its also a miracle he rode on a winged horse also can u say that when muhammed pbuh said that arabs will compete in building tall towers a false prophecie when it came true prove that wrong
I find it funny that the Qur'an is only scientifically "acurate" after we understand the mysteries through science. Then the Muslims go and find something in there to paint the target around the supposed hit.
What would impress me was if the book actually taught something useful way before science found out. Like if it told us the speed of light. Or "wash thine hands because there are unseen small animals that cause disease".
nail on the head
Is that freakin Alex O’Connor?
I don't know if saad reads the comments or not but the steps mentioned in the Qur'an are an exact copy of Galen's observations and contain the same inaccuracies as galen's did and galen lived atleast 300 years before the prophet was born so i hope that answers your question if there was any other book that mentioned the embryological stages.
A Pakistani ex-muslim.
Hi from an Indian atheist. Guess we don't have religion separating us after all !
You could tell where this was going to go (nowhere) after Eric's first question "did you look into the facts we gave you that debunked you last time?", "uh.....yes, but.........." as NO, no he in NO WAY looked into this with an open mind. He thought "yeah yeah, that didn't work so let me try this" And no, he isn't interested in looking into beliefs counter to his own
It’s saad, so saad. It’s a saad saad situation, and it’s getting more and more absurd.
It’s saad, so saad. why can’t we Talk Heathen over?
Oh it seems to me,
Presuppositionalism seems to be the hardest word.
You sir (or sirette), need to get into comedy!
And the irony is that Sa'ad is an Arabic name meaning "Happiness".
But that's what alex did presume he compared a foetus to an embryo
@@kashifuddinahmed8383 Could you express that idea in the form of Elton John lyrics, please?
@@kashifuddinahmed8383 For example:
Don’t you know Cosmic Sceptic’s featured on a T.H. Vid,
Feeling like a truth provider, looking like a little kid,
You know cosmic sceptic mentioned “embryology,”
The study of all pre-birth stages - the foetus is one of these,
Cosmic Sceptic (Yeah yeah yeah!)
The "orbits" (loosely translated) of the sun and moon are mentioned in the verse in the context of the passage of night and day, which are actually caused by the rotation of the earth (important bit of information not mentioned in the Quran).
Additionally, the critical astronomical fact of heliocentrism is the orbit of the earth (another important bit of information also not mentioned in the Quran), not that of the sun.
And even if the sun did not orbit the galaxy, apologists would simply interpret the word as its arc traced across the celestial dome. The most plausible interpretation of the verse would be the geocentric model that held sway then, there and elsewhere. Continued invocation of this verse as scientific foreknowledge ought to be considered embarrassing.
Agreed. Additionally, the words for "orbit" and "revolving" in Q: 21:33 are not the words that modern Arabs use for those words. The word used for "orbit" in the Qur'an is "falak" which refers to the celestial spheres as that term was understood with the firmament model of the universe. The word for "revolving" in the Qur'an is "yasbahuna" which literally means "swimming" and refers to the belief that in the firmament, space was actually a liquid that bodies had to swim through to get to their destinations. In modern Arabic, the word for "orbit" is "medaar" meaning "that which goes in a circle" and the word for "revolve" is "yeduro" coming from the same root (going in a circle).
It's embarrassing, for Muslims who continually claim that the truth of the Qur'an is only manifest in Arabic to ignore Arabic lexicon when they argue for things that are demonstrably false and whose falsity is only more apparent in Arabic.
quran isnt here to explain the fucking galaxy and every little detail its a book of signs and guidance also if u know soo much about quran what about the prophecies can u prove those wrong id like to see you try
"People couldn't possibly have known what a fetus looks like [during a time when miscarriages were very common at every stage of pregnancy]" 🤦♂️
Is this Alex? Wow, I forgot he was joining these calls
That first minute. That's the problem. "it was interesting conversation" They always say that. But the point isn't to find it interesting and then completely ignore it Saad. The point is acknowledging all the ways you were wrong and LEARNING SOMETHING FROM IT.
The issue with all of Saad’s calls is that he doesn’t answer the difficult questions that confront his faulty logic,
He simply moves on by saying something like “that’s interesting but also in the Koran etc.....”
Meanwhile, the Islamic fundamentalist taliban dont allow women to have an education.
Thoroughly desperate confirmation bias. What is transparently obvious is how little the authors of the Koran knew compared to what the Greeks had found out many years earlier. And if you want a book try the poem: "On the nature of things" by Lucretius, written almost a millenium before the Koran, which is full of scientific insights that far exceed the pathetic claims made for the Koran.
Hell, why don't they talk about galen, hypocrates, and pliny the elder? much earlier than the Quran, and the quran plagiarised them even their mistakes actually.
Whos editing these clips? Why are they cutting out midway?
Maybe because it is isn't about the war in the pacific.
Roq Steady Schrodinger’s comment!
this show is a bullshit of science show it’s just putting honorable people who do believe in their Koran what’s wrong with this arrogant pimps making a show to put down Muslims - stupid!!! Why don’t they invite Islamic imams who can give clear answers to scientific sense in the Koran- just read it man! Instead of this stupid comments ...
@@MindManifestator They don't invite anyone. It is an open call in show. Anyone who wants too can call in, imans included.
@@MindManifestator imams wouldn't dare call in
This Quranic embryology debate can evolve into oriental embryosophy which can inform Greek philosophy to progress towards universal wisdom. There is a debate whether fetus is symbiotic or parasitic like leech which can inform abortion debate.
I'm an ex muslim atheist. I've read extensively about islam. The quran is not scientific at all. Just muslims are looking for some parallels to find miracles in it.
They are desperate - such backwards pagan cult has no right to exist in our era of science and knowledge.
@@George-iv1hi
Couldn't agree more. The cult of islam destroyed my life. I had to leave my family. They took all my savings and didn't leave me a penny. They threatened me.
My life mission is to fight this evil with my knowledge and experience.
@@erosquorum8755 Such a "religion of peace". I was raised in Poland, catholic country. Christians are tolerant people - I am atheist, but nobody has any problem with this. I have many Christian friends and they are true friends, as for true muslims you never know. Islam spoiled their minds. What god would order scums (prophet and his companions) to kill and loot other his creation? What did Christians do to allah? They rejected the false prophet, because he was no prophet. For this he started to hate and to kill them when he gained enough power. He was common criminal, not any perfect man.
@@George-iv1hi
Yes. If the follower of an ideology become fundamentalists and they don't blow up themselves among innocent people, then you know that ideology is okay. But islam is worst than a cancer.
When a person puts a pedophile who dies 1400 years ago above the life of his/her loves ones, that ideology is not human.
What I experienced because of islam can't be put to words. I left home sick with sever PTSD and anxiety attacks which would hospitalize me 2-3 times a week, kidney stones, and typhoid fever and I had like 30 k $ saving all was taken and I was also unemployed... had to live on the streets for months. They threatened to kill me like muslim killed a girl in kabul, Afghanistan the most barbaric way and burned her body.
Now I'm the admin of a 17 k fb group for atheists. I also translated a few books from English to Dari (persian). I'm currently working on a few more books some to be translated some to be written.
Anyway, thanks for the comments. I always feel exited to talk to fellow atheists.
@@erosquorum8755 I wish you all good, stay safe and prosper.
Saad says he is looking for answers for questions that he has in regards to science, but he tells us that his research was using a book detailing the history of belief. Is he afraid of what he might find if he researches science?
That's the thing, these religious nuts (Christian, Muslim etc.) are told that if they need ANY answers to ANYTHING that they will find it in their special books, and becasue they are so open to context and interpretation they can basically fit whatever bullshit they want around the words and apply them to anything they want.
He's probably afraid of being disowned by his family/community, I swear my dad is similar. At least he's looking for answers and seems quite open-minded.
Hey its Baby Alex
Classic case of a interpretation so broad that you can make it for anything
YES IM SO DUCKING HAPPY COSMIC SKEPTIC IA ON TALK HEATHEN.
Alex isn't getting it here. He used a poor example of whether this guy would convert to Christianity if he found something similar. This is because Muslims believe the Bible is at least partially divine in nature, so a miracle there would support their Islamic belief given they think both books have divine origins
A better example is to use the scripture of a non-Abrahamic faith instead.
You should always assume that no book about gods or religions are wrong as long as they are written by humans. When a book is produced out of thin air and hangs there for a week before it starts pouring words directly into the ears of everyone THEN we can talk!
That's a good question..... Didn't ask a question 🤦♂️
How come my boy Saad wasn't an atheist already at that point?
Because you raised him up with your religion while claiming it was true and seeing others do the same has teached him that people think it was true.
Kids are guillible and rely on their parents to tell them waht's true.
You failed at your parental duty by feeding him lies.
@@youtubestudiosucks978 thanks for sharing. Pretty much all facts.
@@AntitheistHuman i'm sorry. I jusr realized you mean the other variant of the praising: "my boy" when talking about Saad.
I was rude and attacked you and i'm sorry for that
@@youtubestudiosucks978 LOL I'm lost tbh
Long before the koran, there were scientific writings that were pretty close to correct.
Even more appalling is that when Islam was shat into being the Middle East was at the height of intelligence, education, arts, industry, science etc. Within 100 years Islam brought the Middle East to its knees. Bottom of the civilized world. Islam is violent, merciless, deceptive and appalling.
Paul J Were these informations available 100 years ago ?
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- [ ] Sahih International: Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?
51 ,047
Sahih international: and the heaven we constructed with strength ,and indeed we are [its ]expander .
21 ,104
Sahih international:
The day when we will fold the heaven like the folding of a [written]shit for the record , as we began the first creation ,we will repeat it [that’s a]promise binding upon us ,indeed ,we will do it .
@@paragonofvirtue270 That sounds like the insane shit that`s been around for ever.
It is bollocks so who cares?
Paul J : I don’t give a rat shit whether you care or don’t ,nothing could change the meaning of these verses ,the Big Bang was caused by God .
Stefan Dingenouts : that’s because you don’t understand what you read or a typical atheist who fears the wind of truth that will shatter your foundation of lies .
The thing is that even if he had a point it still wouldn’t be proof of his rather specific deity.
In Chinese creation myth, the giant Pan Gu separates earth and heaven, yin and yang. Obviously they're talking about the Big Bang here, so Wu Kong exists.
Quran is very scientific: flat earth, sun setting in hot spring of water, baby from congealed clot of blood, stars as missiles to shoot at devils, and hundreds of such scientific "facts" more...
Lol George you clearly haven’t done your Tafseer analysis under the guidance and knowledge of Ibn Kathir and Ibn Abbas, I recommend you read them they will refute your points completely with a quiet convincing analysis
@@vbandz2645 Flying horse (Buraq), splittting the moon in two?
corydoras you haven’t looked into the moon splitting because an Indian King at the time saw the moon and travelled from India to Mecca and converted and was reported to build the first mosque in India before he died
corydoras the Indian king left a manuscript behind documenting the moon splitting
@@vbandz2645 Prove it. Demonstrate that the moon was split in two. Demonstrate that such a beast as the Buraq ever existed. You people are brain-washed fuckwits.
Saad... No more Mark's from stone church Texas wannabes😂
I miss mark 😂
Saad, just watch Cosmic Sceptic’s videos!
Oh my god not this guy again.
oh no!!! Saad .. please stop, or write a better religious text with scientific BS in it.
saad needs to make a real friend.
I've actually nothing against this guy, but this is already the fifth call between TH and AXP. He didn't show any progress since the one where he said buying a child for marriage was a-ok for Mohammad because "today 9 year-olds use iphones"
@@suleymanbabak1973 and it's the 100+ call from someone making similar lame claims of science in religious texts ... it's tiresome, they just keep calling with the same lame arguments.
It is soo Saad.
"Im not just going to follow things blindly".......all the while he follows the quran blindly. lol
Saad makes me Sad
Jasus, you take the WORST picture of Alex and make it the video art. Real nice guys.
Doctor here
The Qur'an mentions about an embryo not a foetus
A foetus looks like a mini human with hands and legs an embryo looks like a leech
An embryo is converted into a foetus in like 8weeks Which is two months
Women miscarriage is most common at zero to six weeks and they menstruate at about thirty to fourty days
A miscarriage at below eight weeks looks exactly as a big clot and it is perfectly normal for women to miss a menstural cycle so basically they have the miscarriage without realising they were even pregnant and bear in mind there was no science that they would call a random clot as there miscarriage
So yes you were wrong please do your research as well
Thank you for your time
4:10 imagine if one of the holly books in page one insted of talking about sun and 7 heaven , the creator said : and I created heaven and earth and by the way earth is around
Damn these Pureflix ads I keep getting before these videos.
I get an ad for a Bible college😂😂😂😂
I'm using an ad blocker. really useful piece of software.
‘Allaquah’ does not mean leech. Even if it did, a fetus looks nothing like a leech.
The Quran also repeatedly states that Jinn exist. When this is proven true I will reconsider other claims about the Quran.
so you don't believe jinn exist?
@@sayno-toevil4753 There is no evidence that they do. Heck there is no clear definition of what a Jinn even is. And most conceptions would be incompatible with the laws of physics as we current understand them.
@@KonradZielinski
so are you saying you never saw people who are possessed by jinn? just type possessed by jinn on RUclips then.
@@sayno-toevil4753 I don't believe everything I see on you-tube, because we live in an age when people can modify videos right on their phones, they don't even need a computer. Possession is not a thing that has ever been observed under controlled conditions. Again have to go back, if some one could prove that this can happen they would overturn a good chunk of modern science.
@@KonradZielinski
I personally know people who are possessed by these devils in the past. btw I thought science believe aliens though.
we believe the aliens are the jinns. of course the Quran does not say that but what other explanations are there, right?
Why "if"?
2:26 that look on Alex's face though 🤣 🤣 🤣 ....."aborted faeces" 🤣🤣
"I'm not just going to blindly follow anything"
Says the guy who is blindly following a book that says it's true...
Saad, do yo honestly think that the person/persons who wrote the koran would list their sources, when they were intending to write a book to control a huge group of people because they say it was "inspired" by a god?!?
It's impossible to take people like Saad serious when they come with nonsense like this.
I feel so sorry for people like this. Wasting their lives on fantasy.
Good work guys. Everyday I wish my family would leave Islam already and not let it dictate their whole lives.
The atheistic version of David wood & Sam Samoun.
Those two are idiots
The Quran in surah 86, that "man is created from ejected water that comes out from between the backbone & the rib cage."
The Arabic word صُلب is backbone &
تريبة to ترائب
refers to rib cage chest.
And? That's not true first of all, but ok
so the quran predicted the alien movies?
I am going to assume that you're pointing out how wrong the Quran can get things because that is so wrong it's kind of funny. I think the point to take away is, the Quran gets some things wrong some things right, the things it gets right is not miraculous information (and the information that is claimed to be us usually very vague and requires ad hoc enterpretation) and the stuff it gets wrong is usually pretty damn wrong. Basicly what you would get if you took a look in any ancient text written by mere human beings.
You know what would have been impressive? If the book said man comes from the union of the sperm and a egg. The sperm comes from the testicles, fertilization happens inside the woman after it enters her egg. The man's seed determines if the baby will be a boy or girl. That would have been impressive. Not water from the backbone and ribcage.
@@daniellima2973 Even that could have been a lucky speculation, not too far fetched to be guessed. They knew about castration.
This is saad
What atheism got do with science?
Nothing
That’s true. Science doesn’t take any religion, or lack of religion into account when practised.
Both religion and atheism have nothing to do with science.
Finally you got something right! It might have sort of been by accident, but still….
Saad is pretty sad.....
7:17 muslims in a nutshell
He wants other books with the information/ We didn't KEEP any other book as consistently as the Koran!
Is this a joke?
I just hope there was an exmuslim there because we hear these arguments so many times that we would debunk him in a second. The embryology in the Quran is very wrong and was copied by the Greek embryology written by Aristotle. Which was written 1400 before Islam came.
wow pro quran ad!
In islam we believe that god sent messengers to all the nations and also gave revelations to some of them so being a muslim and finding information with no way of explaining it wether it be in bible or torah or any other religious book will simply mean that it was a book reveiled by god and it won't weaken my faith in islam but will increase it as it proves the claim in Qur'an that god sent messengers to many nations
We do not care what you believe, merely what you can demonstrate what exists in reality.
Then why didn't Islam independently arise in many nations? I mean seriously if when European explorers first reached the America's and/or Australia and found that the same religion had independently arisen in these places that would have been food for thought.
I think whatever you doing is just for to be famous or you are angry with your creator for something.that's why you just want to prove everyone wrong and whatever you doing is.right
No people being wrong is up to their own ideas, if you want to prove your god exists you have to actually be able to demonstrate that, that those who call in can't can only blame themselves.
Once again, you guys can’t read minds. And ppl asking why you-apparently-want us to believe as you do is not not them “trying to prove everything wrong”. Jeez…
These verses are 1400 years old .mr sarcastic .
“Allah is He, who created the sun, the moon, and the stars (all) governed by laws under His commandment.” (7:54)
- [ ] “And He subjected the sun and the moon (to His law); each one runs its course for a term appointed.” (13:2), (31:29), (35:13), and (39:5)
- [ ] “God is the One Who created seven heavens and of the earth a similar number. The command descends upon them so that you know that God has power over all things and comprehends all things in His knowledge.” (65:12)
- [ ] “And made the moon a light in their midst and made the sun as a (Glorious) lamp.” (71:16)
- [ ] “It is He who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its orbit.” (21:33)
- [ ] “And the moon, we have measured for her mansions (to traverse) till she returns like the old, (withered, and curved-up like a sickle) date-palm. It is not permitted for sun to catch-up the moon, nor can the night outstrip the day; each swims along in (its own) orbit.” (36:39-40)
- [ ] “Consider those (stars) that rise only to set. And move (in their orbits) with steady motion. And float (through space) with floating serene. And yet overtake (one another) with swift overtaking. And thus fulfil the (Creator’s) behest!” (79:1-5)
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081 ,15 Sahih international : so I swear by the retreating stars -
081.016 : Sahih international : those that run their courses and disappear .
“Then He turned to the sky when it had been gas and said to it aككnd the earth, condense willingly or unwillingly. And they said, “We condensed willingly.” (41:11)
“And the universe, we constructed with power and skill and verily we are expanding it.” (51:47)
“He Who created the seven heavens, one above another: No want of proportion will you see in the creation of Most Gracious, so turn your face again; Do you see any flaw ... .... And We have adorned the lowest heaven with lamps ....” (67:3-5)
“The sun and moon (are subjected) to calculations.” (55:05)
I don't suppose one can demonstrate on word of your inane drivel to be true.
corydoras : if you don’t like your look don’t look in the mirror.
@@paragonofvirtue270 Whatever that means.
corydoras : if you don’t like what you read then ignore it.
@@paragonofvirtue270 What I like is irrelevant.What is true, what can be demonstrated to reflect reality is all that concerns me. I care if the things I believe are true, you appear to only be concerned with what makes one feel comfortable.
Do guys like this Saad REALLY believe what they are saying? He sounds like a decent person with a skull and a real brain inside it, but he STILL is talking like that? In the 21st century? I think he is just joking. What else CAN it be? :-) Hilarious! :-)