I respect how Gabby is willing to make the hard calls when she realizes there are fundamental incompatibilities. She doesn't draw out the relationship and she respects the steps in the process to not lead the men on as much as possible.
Honestly, I wish we only had one bachelorette. I love both of them, Gabby is easily one of my favourite bachelorettes of all time, but the dating pool is so small with two leads that I don’t feel attached to many of the men at all.
I agree. She is very genuine, and very articulate. Would have loved to see her have her own season, and full group of men. I think the play between the women also messes her up at times. Ok I confess, I do not like Rachel or Tino. Both seem very pretentious.
Rachel is really about to pick the biggest most obvious red flag over two amazing guys. I'm having serious Hannah B flashbacks, my god how can they be SO oblivious 😭
Her feelings are in it, it's easy to want to see passed the red flags. We've probably all done it to some extent in relationships. I try to remember that as I'm yelling at the screen, LOL!
She is very immature and shallow. And I liked Tino for the first couple of episodes but she dodged a cannonball with him and his loser family. I'll be he is just as nasty as his father.
It really just seems like Tino wants to "win" at any cost. He's competitive and you can tell just by the stuff he says that's its about winning the game for him, not a bride.
girl for sure she shagged Tino in the fantasy suit, hence why hells breaks loose when he finds out she also slept with Aven. Itd be awkward if she only slept with Aven and married Tino
I think Zach was just completely blindsided. That boy was in love with Rachel and probably thought that she loved him too. She didn’t say it back to him which was our first hint. She probably stopped playing the bachelorette role once the cameras were off which confused him. He had tears in his eyes in almost every shot after that like people do when their hearts are freshly broken.
I agree, I felt so genuinely bad for him but also feel like he just doged a big bullet. Like him talking about never raising his voice, like that was the moment I'm like oh you do not want to be with Rachel, I feel like she definitely has a temper and it would crush him. Definitely seems like she puts on a persona on camera, you can hear it in her tone since the beginning and I think with Zach only ever seeing and hearing that he really took that at face value.
What I don't understand is if Rach is only a couple months older than Zach why was she so concerned about his age in relation to preparation for marriage? For me it seems like she realized she had chosen her person already (Tino) and was sabotaging what she had with Zach with that excuse so as not to look like Clayton did last season. Maybe not intentionally but I think that's what happened.
I think she was questioning his age and commitment as a roundabout way to say that she’s the one who’s not interested or as a hint that she’s questioning the relationship so she won’t pick him, since she can’t say it outright (though she definitely could and should have sent him home right there, watching him suffer is soul crushing)
I think it went surprisingly well with two, but it only worked because they were determined to stay friends. Ultimately it ripped everyone off. The two bachlorettes, the men, and us, the audience. All for the novelty of having two, and of doing something different. ABC doesn't really care what happens to the leads or what's best for them.
To be fair if it had JUST been Rachel this season would have sucked. I liked the contrast between the two, but it would have been GREAT to just have Gabby of course...
I know Rachel is going to end up choosing Tino so now the only suspense I’m feeling is wondering whether it’ll be days or weeks before we hear they broke up
@@ladyeowyn42 Not surprising. There were so many red flags with him. I’ll never understand why people put their heart on the line on national tv for the entertainment of strangers, but whatever it is she’s looking for, I hope she finds it.
Just gonna say it: Rachel and Tino are both very immature. So they'll get engaged or at least close. But it's not going to last. The contrast between Rachel and Gabby in this episode is just so apparent. Gabby is emotionally mature enough that she knows how meaningful it is to say you're in love with someone and to make commitments to people this far in the game, so she makes the wise decision of letting people go. Rachel is just "in love" with other people telling her they love her, and since all of the men have said that, she "loves" all of them. Honestly, it doesn't surprise me that Zach, who seems the most mature out of Rachel's men, suddenly saw the other side of Rachel and now is scared. I'm glad it looks like he'll get out now while he can. Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike Rachel; I just think she has a lot of growing up to do. And, unfortunately these growing pains for her are being broadcasted on public tv.
Yeah, Rachel doesn’t handle rejection very well AT ALL. She takes it way too personally even though the guys are usually super nice about it and let her down easy. I think she just really likes the attention/validation she gets from these guys, she doesn’t seem genuine. Gabby seems like a really sweet and genuine person though. And very emotionally intelligent. I believe she’s really here to find love.
This!! This whole journey for Rachel just seemed like a self-confidence boost and which guy could give her the most attention and then would be so upset at one guy leaving when if anything she should be glad it’s narrowing it down to the guys who truly liked her. She clearly has a type, aka not Tyler, and is just having fun which is great but also not gonna give you a life long partner. Although I guess since it’s a reality dating tv show did we really have much hope?
i don’t even know what to think. between the producers, the men, and clayton looming in the background of all of rachel’s fantasy suites, who knows how this’ll end.
I think Rachel is deliberately pushing Zach away. And she'll do the same to Aven because she's already decided on Tino. Why she didn't send them home BEFORE Fantasy Suites, IDK. Maybe so she won't be held responsible for hurting them?
She's not really allowed to, it's in her contract. They can sue her for money if she doesn't have enough men around to finish out all the episodes. Gabby's situation is different because it's the men who decide to leave.
@@1313sp But Johnny didn’t decide to leave-he just said he wasn’t ready for an engagement and she said that’s not what she wanted. He even specifically asked her if this meant they were over, and she said yes-so she technically was the one to walk away from Johnny.
A lot of the leads choose to appease the producers for various reasons. The lead can be pressured, they can become genuine friends with producers, they can feel like they have to provide certain kind of tv entertainment… there’s no telling why
i just don’t get how rachel is so down bad for tino… like, both zac(h?) and aven seemed so ready and mature whereas tino seems so… dull, devoid of emotion, and unready. i really, really don’t get it. but i’m happy for gabby! erich seems great
Aven is the guy you bring home to your family. Tino at this point in time is not. Maybe he will at one point grow as a person and change that, but now? No shot.
I really hope he treats her right Gabby is so emotional intelligent, and articulate about it like she has been through alot but, she has learned from it, and become such a strong authentic loving person with that being said she deserves everything.
I know, I was almost hoping that she did decide to leave alone because I don’t think Erich is the best choice for her. Maybe it’s the edit and maybe they are great together, but the vibe always seems off with them idk 🤔…
I lost it when Jesse asked me to take a week off, meditate, go on a trip, come back rested, do some yoga and finally plug back in once I'm fully ready for what's next.
@@vickyrun8796 Odd for sure, but they're just trying to build up the drama around it. It could actually end up being relatively tame, but they want us to think it's going to be soooo wild, that we'll have to decompress BEFORE it happens.
Lol. Yes a cruise on the Love Boat which is rebooting with Jerry O'Connell and Rebecca Romaine. They won't be playing scrabble. The best news: it's on another network! Let's hope the most "Shocking" event will be sex on a Rogue Wave. The BUFFET alone is gonna be more sensual than Gabby and Rachel. One thing for sure; CBS couldn't fu*k anything up more than this Bachelorette fiasco, "oh the fu*king shock" was 2x Too much. I didn't even see any shock, what am I missing?
I knew Jason was playing in Gabby's face all season. I really think his family signed him up for this show because he looked grossly uncomfortable all season and had NO idea it's expected to leave engaged. I wish he left when he had the initial idea to go.
Exactly! I feel like he wasted her time majorly. And cheated her out of connecting with someone else. It did look forced with him all season. It was so uncomfortable to watch
I don’t think he was “playing” her, because like you said he “had NO idea it’s expected to leave engaged”. I think he really liked her, stayed for her despite being “grossly uncomfortable” and just didn’t have the emotional tools to overcome that discomfort.
@@stellashepherd3229 he knew during hometowns he wasn’t ready to propose, still kept going and didn’t tell her… sounds textbook of a man who wastes a woman’s time.
Since their first one on one, I knew the producers were setting up Zach for the next bachelor. Since his entrance, I knew they were setting up Tino to be the next Tyler C. Rachel contradicts herself over and over again. She tells Tino she loves him after saying she wanted to wait for the end. And she keeps saying she doesn’t want to string any guys along like she was, yet is doing that with Zach and Aven. She clearly wants to be engaged to Tino and be the perfect bachelorette.
You have the best recaps, period. I literally laugh out loud multiple times every video. Also, my theory is Rachel definitely wanted Zach to break up with her and look like the bad guy which is really sucky. Their morning after was so cringe and she seemed super inauthentic and weird for all of it.
I knew something was up with Zach and Rachel’s fantasy suite because they were filmed sitting on a couch with what felt like a million pillows between them. There wasn’t the typical morning snuggle with them in bed or snuggling on a couch. I definitely feel for Zach. He deserves better!
I think Zach realized that Rachel won't pick him in the fantasy suietes and he didn't accept that Rachel was using his age to convince him that he is not ready, he felt something is off, he is right as this was kind of gaslighting.. She also is acting so weird in the morning after.. I think that's why he is making a big deal of this sentence. He feels she is not honest with him.
If there was a Pulitzer for Bachelorette/Bachelor Reviews, you would most definitely be the recipient. I look sooo forward to your reviews. The show, not so much. 🥰
I like Erich as well, Nate was my fave for Gabby but she wasn't ready for motherhood. Which begs the question, why is she allowed to not be ready but the guys aren't allowed to step back and say they aren't feeling it after 2 months? And Erich apparently pulls the same stunt Jason & Gianni (Johnny? I think I saw his name with a G but don't remember) did in the next episode. Maybe she'll end up like Hannah and choose herself as she twirls around on DWTS.
How did Jason get this far in the process feeling that he doesn't know Gabby and she doesn't know him??? Like, what?! My guy, you could've left this show whenever! Who was forcing this man to be there??
Everyone is reading way far into Zach and Rachel's possible convo. She didn't say I love you back and probably didn't sleep with him whereas she did with the other two guys. Aka you're going next and Zach was smart enough to read the room, thus feeling blindsided.
Okay so here is my theory with Rachel and Zach. Rachel told Zach she is nervous about him being “younger” (which is ridiculous bc he’s not that much younger than her) as a tactic to get him to spiral and leave. She didn’t want to have to break up with him, so she’s manipulating him into breaking up with her. Tin foil hat: ON
Love it! Prob true to sabotage it cause she doesn't really like Zach. But she should've thought it through cause now she just has another rejection story to tell herself *eye roll* lol she should've ended it in fantasy suites so she doesn't carry on this narrative that she's "always dumped"
Yeahhhh Rachel is looking like a real hypocrite right about now. She played Zach no doubt, making him think she had deeper feelings than she did, and then blamed it on his age. I’m interested in seeing how he plays his breakup, REACH FOR THAT BACHELOR SPOT ZACH!
Rachel saying '' I am falling in love with you'' to Aven when she's already chosen Tino..... Is just another version [although a little bit milder] of doing what Clayton did to her...... She is just as loose with her words and she is setting Aven up for heartbreak and devastation...... She's constantly digging out Clayton but she's quite hypocritical with her own actions and words
I have many thoughts on this season. They doubled up on the leads, but only added an extra 5 contestants, so it's really not surprising that they couldn't find enough quality guys. Clearly something weird is going on with Zach and Rachel and I would bet a million dollars that Zach is going to be sent packing at the Rose ceremony. Rachel is already set on picking Tino to be the winner.
@@crazy4orlando2 definitely the vibes I was getting from the last episode but will depend how next week’s episode goes. They were for sure making Zach out to be good bachelor material and almost painting Rachel in a bad light? but we’ll see how the actual conversation between them goes and the edit 😬
Kind of a weird Rachel edit this week. I noticed at the rose ceremony when Jesse told her she was the only bachelorette it looked like she kept smiling like she was almost glad. I thought it was weird she didn’t ask about Gabby but then again she probably already knew beforehand? then when she got to give out the roses, again she was smiling, which was kind of odd because this is such a tough rose ceremony so it seemed weird that she was smiling. However, maybe she was just uncomfortable and that’s just how she deals with situations.
I feel like some of the conflict Rachel is going through come from her knowing that Zac is the perfect guy and yet not having that 'it' factor that would make her ready to spend her life with him. She might have had a more grilling convo to try to figure out where that doubt comes from, almost like she wants to know why Zac is on paper perfect, and yet not the one. This is no critic on Rachel, she obviously sees something or feels something special for Tino. I'm not going to harp on her for not picking the guy I like the most
agreed. i feel like the audience viciously tears apart the lead for not picking the nice guy who is the best on paper. its not their fault they just didnt like them as much as the others at the end of the day
If they’re this unhappy while they live in a mansion with free alcohol, food, & endless activities…Then there’s no way in hell they’ll last as a couple in the real world where there is death, poverty, & sickness. Not this utopian bachelor mansion they isolate themselves in for months at a time lol
Gabby had a huge crush on Jason. Probably with help from production she had built it up in her mind that there was this great romantic connection there that wasn't there. It was heartbreaking to me to watch this guy's frankly almost detachment which she called reserved attitude (and which attracted her) to the poin that he told her it was not even going to work for them to date outside of the Bachelorette. In other words, she was a fun date, but the physical "it" factor was not there for him. He was not into her. Where I fault Jason is that like the rest of us, he knows whether or not he is physically attracted and into a person. He "knew" this before HTs as based by convos and the reactions of his mother.
I felt Aven and Rachel's date was all very tongue in cheek, wink, wink. I'm not sure they actually knocked boots. To me it seems he knows she's picking Tino and they agreed to make it look good for the cameras and TV. Of course, next week might change my mind, but right now I'm calling shenanigans. When it came to Zach, I think she told him she wasn't ready to sleep with him, than she started trying to find ANY reason to dump him so she will look good. He is so clearly the better choice - good job, good family, same interests, have a great time together, no drama. Maybe that's it....Rachel needs the drama. Falls in line with everything we've seen of her this season.
Nowadays every time a man makes it this far and then suddenly starts getting nervous about an engagement and basically self-sabotages their chances, I start getting Brendan Morais vibes. Fame seeker who didn’t want to risk actually getting picked
I’m pretty sure Rachel just knew it was not going to be Zach. Once she had her overnight with Tino and they said they loved each other it was game over. Seems like she was just trying to find a reason to make it not work and lead to a logical end of their relationship instead of blindsiding Zach by having a good overnight.
Very shocking, I'm wondering if it's a western cultural thing, cause I'm African and this would never happen where I am from. Gabby telling the man she loves, that she's upset over his concerns of her sleeping with other men, (as alot of people, male/female) would, makes no sense to me.
@@sbusisiweshaba1715 I think she was upset because she already told him that she wouldn’t in private, but he kept harping on it. That’s why she kept saying “don’t you trust me, we already talked about it…” She also basically told him that he’s her top choice. If I told my bf that I definitely wouldn’t cheat on him and he kept questioning me and crying about it, I’d be annoyed too.
This season has been dictated about the guys and who or what they want. A double season doesn't work (well with the US one at least). I feel for Rachel and Gabby, they started on the back foot and I hope they're happy.
Rachel is head over heels for Tino and that's why she's dismissing the fact his parents disapprove of them and why she decides to talk about politics and age differences with Zach and looking for any reason why they wouldn't work when simply she isn't attracted to him as she is to Tino.
Tino saying "nervy" totally bothered me too because I have to assume he's using it in this very casual, "obvy" kind of way, although I have to keep reminding myself it's like a REAL word too and actually totally legitimate to use in that context 😂 I like Zach for Bachelor (especially if the only other option they're offering us is Nate, yuck) but I hate that they're setting Rachel up as some kind of villain when it's so obvious that he was her F3, she is already all in on Tino, and Zach just caught that vibe once the cameras were gone and it hurt. Unfortunately it's part and parcel with how the show is run, two or three guys usually end up with very hurt feelings and Zach signed up to be one of them. 🤷🏻♀️
I bet the producers were punching their pillow when they realized two huge dramatic events went down in the fantasy suites where there’s no cameras hahaha I do think the politics things is interesting because according to Florida records, Rachel is affiliated with the Republican Party and Zach is from California, a generally blue state. Either way I have grown to like Zach all season and I hope they pick him as bachelor.
The fact that Rachel practically tried to gaslight Zach into thinking that he wasn’t ready for an engagement because she dosent have the decency to be honest with him is vile
I don't buy that. It seems so suspicious that we didn't get a single word of Rachel's side of the story. Makes me think production is trying to sell a narrative without giving us all of the information.
Even if Paradise is a shorter timespan, the contestants get to spend more time together. So Paradise is probably perfect for the person who thinks the regular formula is just a little too fast.
Man the blink twice comment cracked me so hard.. I was drinking hot tea and I spilt it all over my computer and started chocking😂😂😂 I will never drink and watch your videos again 😅
I think that Rachel use the idea of him not being ready because of his age as an excuse she knew she wanted to let him go instead of not giving him a rose she made it look like it was decision to leave my guess is she picks tino ,and they break up soon afterward you could just tell on the men tell all that something was going on I don't think she with anyone right now.
That’s exactly what my bf and I thought when watching it! It just seemed like she was looking for an excuse to not pick him and that was the easiest one. I felt so bad for him cause you could tell he was shocked and it just showed Rachel’s immaturity for not giving Zach the truth that he deserves.
omg Jason was actually super honest. You don't know who I am and I don't know who you are. How do you expect us to get engaged? Say what you want about contestants knowing the process but Rachel & Gabby's was super rushed and done in half the time!
I feel like either 1 is religious and 1's not, or 1 is liberal and 1 is conservative which caused the riff the night of FS hence his comment about those conversations
I think so too, and I think that’s why he sounded so cold when he said “can we speak.” I think something that came up was a dealbreaker for him, and he checked out then and there
@@sabrinashelton1997 agreed, regardless of what he says when he pulls her aside at the rose ceremony, I think she was sending him home. It’s always been Tino
I think they just didn't have sex so he knew it wasn't him. Rachel probably knew it was Tino at that point so just to have the keep up appearances till the end. I think he thought it was him though so it through him off.
It's both, he's conservative and Catholic and she's liberal and probably not religious at all. He's not the one for her but he thought he was so his feelings are HURT. Doesn't make her a villain at all though, even though she's obviously all in on Tino that's pretty normal for this stage in the show, leads are just expected by production to play along.
@@alexandragatto So then Zach didn’t care about Rachael not being ‘religious’ until now? He was falling in love or loved her and didn’t know if she was a person of faith. How lame!! If you can’t establish commonality with something this fundamental right off the bat, then perhaps your faith is not that important. Was he there for the ‘lights’? Now that I think about this, he just lost all respect in my book.
This is just my opinion, but I think Rachel knew she didn’t want to continue with Zach so she pulled the age card on him even though she’s only a couple months older. She wanted Zach second guessing himself and eventually pulling away so she wouldn’t have to go through the rose ceremony with him. In other words, make it look like it was his decision to leave instead of hers. My guess is he will be the next bachelor. My gut says that she picks Tino, but it doesn’t work out, and she’s back to being single again. I’m hoping Erich wasn’t chosen by default. Hopefully Gabby and Erich worked things out and are still together, but it looks like he just wants to date her before any engagement according to next week’s preview. 🤷♀️
I feel like Jason was so so honest. You can be ready for something for a while and then it HITS you that, it’s not the same under these circumstances. I don’t know why Jason stayed though… I think he just told her what she wanted to hear. He’s right, within this bubble in like 6 weeks, and dates that last 2 hours or 20 mins of face time… how do you ACTUALLY know who they are. I’m sorry she felt led on but as someone who has been through the process before I would’ve thought she understood his points more. And it’s easy to say they should’ve communicated more, but how and where? On a group date where he sees her for 5 mins? That’s why all these couples keep breaking up, they don’t work in real life because they don’t actually know each other.
And even though it’s late in the process, at least he didn’t wait until after he slept with her to come to the “sudden” realization. He didn’t humiliate her or use her for clout as we’ve seen other contestants do over the years.
That was the funniest recap intro that I've ever seen! Thanks for the Gilmore Girls clip, too! And is anyone else getting Greg Grippo AND Brendan Morais flashbacks?
I feel like Rachel was almost just as bad as Clayton. She told Aven she’s “falling in love with him” then most likely sleeps with him, then goes on to tell Tino she’s “in love with him” and most likely sleeps with him (which is no big deal) then still invites Zach to the fantasy suite when we already know she wants Tino. There was no reasons to invite him when you just told another man you love them. But to get mad at Clayton for sleeping with two people then you most likely do the same thing and tell two people you love them/falling for them. (Because Clayton just told gabby he was falling for her until the very end when he told the two of them everything) Rachel was my favorite in his season and now I just think she’s kinda hypocritical
But people are arguing it was the way he handled it. He told Gabby and Rachel he had slept with them both and was in love with both of them, then he told them to stay one more week, then broke up with them at the same time not individually. I too was not a fan of Rachel saying she wouldn't say I love you until the end and then saying it with Tino, BUT that's not quite the same.
@@imapineapple15 that’s why I said almost she’s not as bad as what he did but she still can’t be mad at him for sleeping with two women if she did sleep with two men. He definitely was wrong for how he handled it
Go back to Clayton. He did not tell all 3, "I am falling in love with you," which is fairly common. He told all 3 ladies, "I love you," which is generally held in reserve for the winner. That coupled with all the wooing for each one was the problem. Rachel told us in a voice over that Tino had NOT told her how he felt. It was obvious to most of us that Tino was her choice, so it wasn't great, but I wasn't extremely surprised when Rachel returned Tino's "I love you with an "I love you" of her own. Now she has herself in a bit of a corner. What is she going to do about the other 2? Now! Unlike poor Gabby who only has 1 guy left, Rachel has 3 very viable choices left. After her session with Tino, Rachel knows what she wants, and she is going to have to start doing something about the other two guys. I don't think it was religion or politics with Zach. I think Rachel needed to find something that would begin to put doubts in Zac's mind or to discourage him. Although he is only 4 months younger than she, Zac said she began seriously questioning his age to commit to marriage. In addition it was her manner and her attitude (he implied) that makes me think she might have been setting him up to exit on his own.
Jason just wanted a free vacation. He doesn’t even want to be Gabby’s boyfriend, let alone her husband. That blank expression on his face all season was really annoying/concerning.
This might sound odd but something weirded me out about the way Zach said “can we speak?”. I guess to me it sounds more aggressive than “can we talk?”. That last scene was Jesse in the empty studio was so dramatic for no reason lol who came up with that? Looking forward to the preview breakdown video because after watching it a second time and seeing comments/tweets, I’m starting to theorize what might happen.
Zach sounded so corporate to me! Not how you would speak to someone you’re closely dating, even if you’re being extra polite because you’re with the other guys.
@@Sipu97 I was thinking that. When you’re really anxious about needing to say something the words can get caught in your throat. You’re in your head thinking “Just say it. You need to talk before it’s too late” and you end up blurting it out louder and/or more intense than you intended.
Also the fact that production probably told him to wait until that very dramatic, almost rose grab🌹 ✋️ They were probably staring him down from some hidden place, trying to give him cues to not say it too early haha
Awesome editing! Very funny take on this messy episode. Now I’d better take some time to gather my thoughts and prepare for next week’s most dramatic and emotional ending ever 😆
Fantasy Suites is where things get *hard* .
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THATS WHAT SHE SAID 😆
(Michael Scott wide eyed and giggling)
Penetrating analysis!
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the cinematic shot of the bug in the wine glass during Jason/Gabby's date killed me!! love your videos as always
I respect how Gabby is willing to make the hard calls when she realizes there are fundamental incompatibilities. She doesn't draw out the relationship and she respects the steps in the process to not lead the men on as much as possible.
Honestly, I wish we only had one bachelorette. I love both of them, Gabby is easily one of my favourite bachelorettes of all time, but the dating pool is so small with two leads that I don’t feel attached to many of the men at all.
Exactly. I’m partial to Gabby. Love Rachel but Gabby really deserved her own full season.
I agree. She is very genuine, and very articulate. Would have loved to see her have her own season, and full group of men. I think the play between the women also messes her up at times. Ok I confess, I do not like Rachel or Tino. Both seem very pretentious.
And the men don’t seem to have been able to get attached to the women
I think that's why many men were not in love. They didn't have enough time to get to know the ladies.
@@doglover7675 agree on the pretentious part
Rachel is really about to pick the biggest most obvious red flag over two amazing guys. I'm having serious Hannah B flashbacks, my god how can they be SO oblivious 😭
Agreed. Tino comes off as VERY jealous and possessive. That can only end badly. And then his family... But she decided on him a long time ago.
I literally thought the exact same thing!
Her feelings are in it, it's easy to want to see passed the red flags. We've probably all done it to some extent in relationships. I try to remember that as I'm yelling at the screen, LOL!
She is very immature and shallow. And I liked Tino for the first couple of episodes but she dodged a cannonball with him and his loser family. I'll be he is just as nasty as his father.
It really just seems like Tino wants to "win" at any cost. He's competitive and you can tell just by the stuff he says that's its about winning the game for him, not a bride.
Rachel's checklist. Shag: Aven, Marry: Tino , Kill: Zach
Omg 🤣
girl for sure she shagged Tino in the fantasy suit, hence why hells breaks loose when he finds out she also slept with Aven. Itd be awkward if she only slept with Aven and married Tino
And I have no clue why it’s Tino and not Aven.
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That about sums it up
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"Tino's getting a little nervy cause Rachel's looking a little nervy" made me cackle out loud 😂
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I think Zach was just completely blindsided. That boy was in love with Rachel and probably thought that she loved him too. She didn’t say it back to him which was our first hint. She probably stopped playing the bachelorette role once the cameras were off which confused him. He had tears in his eyes in almost every shot after that like people do when their hearts are freshly broken.
I agree, I felt so genuinely bad for him but also feel like he just doged a big bullet. Like him talking about never raising his voice, like that was the moment I'm like oh you do not want to be with Rachel, I feel like she definitely has a temper and it would crush him.
Definitely seems like she puts on a persona on camera, you can hear it in her tone since the beginning and I think with Zach only ever seeing and hearing that he really took that at face value.
What I don't understand is if Rach is only a couple months older than Zach why was she so concerned about his age in relation to preparation for marriage? For me it seems like she realized she had chosen her person already (Tino) and was sabotaging what she had with Zach with that excuse so as not to look like Clayton did last season. Maybe not intentionally but I think that's what happened.
@@cicimelendez4557 probably cause that’s the only excuse she could use to let him go :/
@@geriramirez99 exactly. It's ridiculous, I think she panicked
I think she was questioning his age and commitment as a roundabout way to say that she’s the one who’s not interested or as a hint that she’s questioning the relationship so she won’t pick him, since she can’t say it outright (though she definitely could and should have sent him home right there, watching him suffer is soul crushing)
Im going to need the Bachelorette franchise to not have 2 bachelorette EVER AGIAN
I think it went surprisingly well with two, but it only worked because they were determined to stay friends. Ultimately it ripped everyone off. The two bachlorettes, the men, and us, the audience. All for the novelty of having two, and of doing something different. ABC doesn't really care what happens to the leads or what's best for them.
I loved it and i want it again
To be fair if it had JUST been Rachel this season would have sucked. I liked the contrast between the two, but it would have been GREAT to just have Gabby of course...
I agree. Bad idea.
I'm going to need the Bachelorette franchise to not have 1 Bachelorette ever again, and hey, the Bachelor franchise can feel free to do the same.
I know Rachel is going to end up choosing Tino so now the only suspense I’m feeling is wondering whether it’ll be days or weeks before we hear they broke up
Reality Steve is already saying they did break up
@@ladyeowyn42 Not surprising. There were so many red flags with him. I’ll never understand why people put their heart on the line on national tv for the entertainment of strangers, but whatever it is she’s looking for, I hope she finds it.
Minutes.
They both seem really immature, so I’d bet money they’ll end up breaking up
@Georgia no spoilers!! 😢😞
Just gonna say it: Rachel and Tino are both very immature. So they'll get engaged or at least close. But it's not going to last.
The contrast between Rachel and Gabby in this episode is just so apparent. Gabby is emotionally mature enough that she knows how meaningful it is to say you're in love with someone and to make commitments to people this far in the game, so she makes the wise decision of letting people go. Rachel is just "in love" with other people telling her they love her, and since all of the men have said that, she "loves" all of them. Honestly, it doesn't surprise me that Zach, who seems the most mature out of Rachel's men, suddenly saw the other side of Rachel and now is scared. I'm glad it looks like he'll get out now while he can.
Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike Rachel; I just think she has a lot of growing up to do. And, unfortunately these growing pains for her are being broadcasted on public tv.
Yeah, Rachel doesn’t handle rejection very well AT ALL. She takes it way too personally even though the guys are usually super nice about it and let her down easy. I think she just really likes the attention/validation she gets from these guys, she doesn’t seem genuine.
Gabby seems like a really sweet and genuine person though. And very emotionally intelligent. I believe she’s really here to find love.
@@hannahbanana2118 👏 100%. For Rachel, love=validation, and that is so not ok
This!! This whole journey for Rachel just seemed like a self-confidence boost and which guy could give her the most attention and then would be so upset at one guy leaving when if anything she should be glad it’s narrowing it down to the guys who truly liked her. She clearly has a type, aka not Tyler, and is just having fun which is great but also not gonna give you a life long partner. Although I guess since it’s a reality dating tv show did we really have much hope?
i don’t even know what to think. between the producers, the men, and clayton looming in the background of all of rachel’s fantasy suites, who knows how this’ll end.
I can't wait till the final episode when they unmask the producers and it's been Clayton all along.
@@adam88099 🤣🤣🤣 I was thinking the same thing. Rachel gets engaged to Clayton.
For me, this was your best recap ever. Emily gilmore would be so proud.
Loved the GG reference!! My favorite.
I think Rachel is deliberately pushing Zach away. And she'll do the same to Aven because she's already decided on Tino. Why she didn't send them home BEFORE Fantasy Suites, IDK. Maybe so she won't be held responsible for hurting them?
She's not really allowed to, it's in her contract. They can sue her for money if she doesn't have enough men around to finish out all the episodes. Gabby's situation is different because it's the men who decide to leave.
@@1313sp But Johnny didn’t decide to leave-he just said he wasn’t ready for an engagement and she said that’s not what she wanted. He even specifically asked her if this meant they were over, and she said yes-so she technically was the one to walk away from Johnny.
@1313sp How does Claire Crawley fit into this?Did she break her contract??
@@stephanielangel2672 She left after a week, so she definitely broke her contract and she didn't get sued.
A lot of the leads choose to appease the producers for various reasons. The lead can be pressured, they can become genuine friends with producers, they can feel like they have to provide certain kind of tv entertainment… there’s no telling why
i just don’t get how rachel is so down bad for tino… like, both zac(h?) and aven seemed so ready and mature whereas tino seems so… dull, devoid of emotion, and unready. i really, really don’t get it. but i’m happy for gabby! erich seems great
Exactly she wants tino so bad like zach is a great guy
I mean obviously I don’t know for sure, but I think she just thinks that Tino is rly hot, so she’s been ignoring way too many red flags
Sometimes it's just chemistry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Tino isn't my cup of tea but I think Tino checks a lot of the boxes on Rachel's list.
Tino is playing Rachel like a fiddle.
Aven is the guy you bring home to your family.
Tino at this point in time is not. Maybe he will at one point grow as a person and change that, but now? No shot.
I really hope he treats her right
Gabby is so emotional intelligent, and articulate about it like she has been through alot but, she has learned from it, and become such a strong authentic loving person with that being said she deserves everything.
I know, I was almost hoping that she did decide to leave alone because I don’t think Erich is the best choice for her. Maybe it’s the edit and maybe they are great together, but the vibe always seems off with them idk 🤔…
I agree! Gabby is such a beautiful soul😇 she absolutely deserves true love.
I lost it when Jesse asked me to take a week off, meditate, go on a trip, come back rested, do some yoga and finally plug back in once I'm fully ready for what's next.
That was very odd.
@@vickyrun8796 Odd for sure, but they're just trying to build up the drama around it. It could actually end up being relatively tame, but they want us to think it's going to be soooo wild, that we'll have to decompress BEFORE it happens.
it's the fact that rachel said aven is "the full package" TWICE that really sent me
She’s a class act. 🙄
maybe he's just a giver. and she loved to receive.
@@whodat7084 oh shush lol
@@ubadman1 😂😂😂😂
Gabby is the best. Shes so funny and real. Totally respect that. Lets not do 2 leads again
So genuine and real
Jesse Palmer -"it's going to change their lives forever." Are they going on a fu*king cruise?
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Hahahaha
Lol. Yes a cruise on the Love Boat which is rebooting with Jerry O'Connell and Rebecca Romaine. They won't be playing scrabble. The best news: it's on another network! Let's hope the most "Shocking" event will be sex on a Rogue Wave. The BUFFET alone is gonna be more sensual than Gabby and Rachel. One thing for sure; CBS couldn't fu*k anything up more than this Bachelorette fiasco, "oh the fu*king shock" was 2x Too much. I didn't even see any shock, what am I missing?
Your clips from other shows are ALWAYS chef's kiss. "do a flip!"
Agreed
Always spot on!!!
Rachel was so into Tino more than he was the way she looks at him was crazy. Don't put your eggs in one basket.
@@bezzbelbo4072 I noticed that too lol she wanted to kiss him so badly
I knew Jason was playing in Gabby's face all season. I really think his family signed him up for this show because he looked grossly uncomfortable all season and had NO idea it's expected to leave engaged. I wish he left when he had the initial idea to go.
Exactly! I feel like he wasted her time majorly. And cheated her out of connecting with someone else. It did look forced with him all season. It was so uncomfortable to watch
She should have kept Nate, but I get it she really liked him but knew she didn't want to get to fantasy suits and have a really difficult breakup
I don’t think he was “playing” her, because like you said he “had NO idea it’s expected to leave engaged”. I think he really liked her, stayed for her despite being “grossly uncomfortable” and just didn’t have the emotional tools to overcome that discomfort.
@@stellashepherd3229 he knew during hometowns he wasn’t ready to propose, still kept going and didn’t tell her… sounds textbook of a man who wastes a woman’s time.
If he’s been feeling this way all along he should have left weeks ago. I do feel like he led her on.
Since their first one on one, I knew the producers were setting up Zach for the next bachelor. Since his entrance, I knew they were setting up Tino to be the next Tyler C. Rachel contradicts herself over and over again. She tells Tino she loves him after saying she wanted to wait for the end. And she keeps saying she doesn’t want to string any guys along like she was, yet is doing that with Zach and Aven. She clearly wants to be engaged to Tino and be the perfect bachelorette.
You have the best recaps, period. I literally laugh out loud multiple times every video.
Also, my theory is Rachel definitely wanted Zach to break up with her and look like the bad guy which is really sucky. Their morning after was so cringe and she seemed super inauthentic and weird for all of it.
I knew something was up with Zach and Rachel’s fantasy suite because they were filmed sitting on a couch with what felt like a million pillows between them. There wasn’t the typical morning snuggle with them in bed or snuggling on a couch. I definitely feel for Zach. He deserves better!
If Rachel really wanted to be happy and have peace, she would pick Aven . Unfortunately I feel she’s not going to … 😔
I don't even watch the Bachelorette/ Bachelor franchise, I only come see BACHELOR FANTAKE for the details/ impressive video editing. 💖💔💖
Same
Same
Yes done. Hope the show goes on tho so these videos go on. They are great. I'm headed for Paradise, it looks somewhat real and good for a laugh.
I think Zach realized that Rachel won't pick him in the fantasy suietes and he didn't accept that Rachel was using his age to convince him that he is not ready, he felt something is off, he is right as this was kind of gaslighting.. She also is acting so weird in the morning after.. I think that's why he is making a big deal of this sentence.
He feels she is not honest with him.
Erich is one of the most vulnerable and sincere contestants they’ve had. I’m so glad he was Gabby’s F1. I hope the upcoming drama isn’t real.
Ooof, aged badly
@@NoNameHereOrThere story of my life. I am the basic viewer. Lol.
It isn't.
If there was a Pulitzer for Bachelorette/Bachelor Reviews, you would most definitely be the recipient.
I look sooo forward to your reviews. The show, not so much. 🥰
I think after this, a 3-way interview with Clayton, Gabby, and Rachel would be interesting, maybe enlightening.
Great recap. The "baby back bitch" comment had me laughing so hard I had to pause the video! 😂🤣😅
I had too much anxiety over the Gabby and Erich situation to watch these episodes so thank you for the recap and I’m hoping they end up together
Yes! I only watch the recaps anyway, but I've liked Erich for a while. He seems genuine and hope Gabby finds happiness with him.
I like Erich as well, Nate was my fave for Gabby but she wasn't ready for motherhood. Which begs the question, why is she allowed to not be ready but the guys aren't allowed to step back and say they aren't feeling it after 2 months?
And Erich apparently pulls the same stunt Jason & Gianni (Johnny? I think I saw his name with a G but don't remember) did in the next episode. Maybe she'll end up like Hannah and choose herself as she twirls around on DWTS.
"A quiet night playing scrabble" I laughed legitimately out loud at that one 😂
Tino’s dad is gonna turn out like Peter’s mom for sure if he return home with Rachel
Don’t let her gooooo
How did Jason get this far in the process feeling that he doesn't know Gabby and she doesn't know him??? Like, what?! My guy, you could've left this show whenever! Who was forcing this man to be there??
Everyone is reading way far into Zach and Rachel's possible convo.
She didn't say I love you back and probably didn't sleep with him whereas she did with the other two guys. Aka you're going next and Zach was smart enough to read the room, thus feeling blindsided.
Exactly, plus he knows he has a great shot at being the next bachelor which far more valuable. Good for him. Rachel seems so high maintenance.
@@maester7778 yeah it's like nothing you can do can make her happy :/
I think Zach is guy
@@bezzbelbo4072 yes
Okay so here is my theory with Rachel and Zach. Rachel told Zach she is nervous about him being “younger” (which is ridiculous bc he’s not that much younger than her) as a tactic to get him to spiral and leave. She didn’t want to have to break up with him, so she’s manipulating him into breaking up with her. Tin foil hat: ON
Love it! Prob true to sabotage it cause she doesn't really like Zach. But she should've thought it through cause now she just has another rejection story to tell herself *eye roll* lol she should've ended it in fantasy suites so she doesn't carry on this narrative that she's "always dumped"
Bingo!
Yeah also bringing up politics and religion just trying to get him to say something wrong! LOL
100%
Completely agree
I hope Gabby and Erich can make it work!! Love them together
Don't count on it
literally PRAYING zach doesn't kill his reputation in the next episode because that's MY bachelor
Yeahhhh Rachel is looking like a real hypocrite right about now. She played Zach no doubt, making him think she had deeper feelings than she did, and then blamed it on his age. I’m interested in seeing how he plays his breakup, REACH FOR THAT BACHELOR SPOT ZACH!
That was one of the best That’s What She Said set ups of all time. Bravo, my dude.
Rachel saying '' I am falling in love with you'' to Aven when she's already chosen Tino..... Is just another version [although a little bit milder] of doing what Clayton did to her...... She is just as loose with her words and she is setting Aven up for heartbreak and devastation...... She's constantly digging out Clayton but she's quite hypocritical with her own actions and words
I said “that’s what she said” so much during this episode while watching it and I died when Bachelor Fantake kicked off this video with that haha
Me too! 🤣
OMG!!! I did too!!!!!! Sooooo many times!!!!! Thought I was the only one!!!!!
Gabby and Erich's chemistry is so strong. Ithink it's the strongest I've seen in a long while on the show. I truly hope they work out.
I have many thoughts on this season. They doubled up on the leads, but only added an extra 5 contestants, so it's really not surprising that they couldn't find enough quality guys. Clearly something weird is going on with Zach and Rachel and I would bet a million dollars that Zach is going to be sent packing at the Rose ceremony. Rachel is already set on picking Tino to be the winner.
We are getting Zach the Bach!
Zachelor the bachelor. I ship it and I'm ready.
@@crazy4orlando2 definitely the vibes I was getting from the last episode but will depend how next week’s episode goes. They were for sure making Zach out to be good bachelor material and almost painting Rachel in a bad light? but we’ll see how the actual conversation between them goes and the edit 😬
@@sandramata-diaz3180 if they don't its a missed marketing opportunity.
Kind of a weird Rachel edit this week. I noticed at the rose ceremony when Jesse told her she was the only bachelorette it looked like she kept smiling like she was almost glad. I thought it was weird she didn’t ask about Gabby but then again she probably already knew beforehand? then when she got to give out the roses, again she was smiling, which was kind of odd because this is such a tough rose ceremony so it seemed weird that she was smiling. However, maybe she was just uncomfortable and that’s just how she deals with situations.
I also noticed she didn't ask about Gabby when he said she wouldn't be there! Maybe they edited it out though who knows
@@laurenviola5905 Right I think so too, I feel like they actually are friends and communicate regularly
I feel like some of the conflict Rachel is going through come from her knowing that Zac is the perfect guy and yet not having that 'it' factor that would make her ready to spend her life with him. She might have had a more grilling convo to try to figure out where that doubt comes from, almost like she wants to know why Zac is on paper perfect, and yet not the one. This is no critic on Rachel, she obviously sees something or feels something special for Tino. I'm not going to harp on her for not picking the guy I like the most
agreed. i feel like the audience viciously tears apart the lead for not picking the nice guy who is the best on paper. its not their fault they just didnt like them as much as the others at the end of the day
If they’re this unhappy while they live in a mansion with free alcohol, food, & endless activities…Then there’s no way in hell they’ll last as a couple in the real world where there is death, poverty, & sickness. Not this utopian bachelor mansion they isolate themselves in for months at a time lol
That "I ... love you, too... !" of Rachel sounded soooo awkward
Gabby was indeed lead on by Jason. If he knew he was uncomfortable, he would have known that weeks ago. He was too afraid to make a move.
Take a shot for everytime Rachel says "Clayton".
You mean Clay-in?
@@whodat7084 Ahahaha yes! 🤣
Are you drunk yet, lol!
As she pronounces it: Clay-Unnn…didn’t realize so many people had trouble pronouncing this word!
Gabby had a huge crush on Jason. Probably with help from production she had built it up in her mind that there was this great romantic connection there that wasn't there. It was heartbreaking to me to watch this guy's frankly almost detachment which she called reserved attitude (and which attracted her) to the poin that he told her it was not even going to work for them to date outside of the Bachelorette.
In other words, she was a fun date, but the physical "it" factor was not there for him. He was not into her.
Where I fault Jason is that like the rest of us, he knows whether or not he is physically attracted and into a person. He "knew" this before HTs as based by convos and the reactions of his mother.
Why do I feel like Tino came on because somebody told him he looks like Tyler Cameron?
I felt Aven and Rachel's date was all very tongue in cheek, wink, wink. I'm not sure they actually knocked boots. To me it seems he knows she's picking Tino and they agreed to make it look good for the cameras and TV. Of course, next week might change my mind, but right now I'm calling shenanigans. When it came to Zach, I think she told him she wasn't ready to sleep with him, than she started trying to find ANY reason to dump him so she will look good. He is so clearly the better choice - good job, good family, same interests, have a great time together, no drama. Maybe that's it....Rachel needs the drama. Falls in line with everything we've seen of her this season.
Nope they were definitely “glowing” after.
I agree! It gave me Nick and Raven vibes
Nowadays every time a man makes it this far and then suddenly starts getting nervous about an engagement and basically self-sabotages their chances, I start getting Brendan Morais vibes. Fame seeker who didn’t want to risk actually getting picked
I had the exact thought
I’m pretty sure Rachel just knew it was not going to be Zach. Once she had her overnight with Tino and they said they loved each other it was game over. Seems like she was just trying to find a reason to make it not work and lead to a logical end of their relationship instead of blindsiding Zach by having a good overnight.
Good point, but why didn't she tell him before the overnights, similar to telling Tyler before meeting his parents?
How romantic would it be to get engaged the week after your gf raved about someone else’s package. Chills 🥰
Very shocking, I'm wondering if it's a western cultural thing, cause I'm African and this would never happen where I am from. Gabby telling the man she loves, that she's upset over his concerns of her sleeping with other men, (as alot of people, male/female) would, makes no sense to me.
@@sbusisiweshaba1715 I think she was upset because she already told him that she wouldn’t in private, but he kept harping on it. That’s why she kept saying “don’t you trust me, we already talked about it…” She also basically told him that he’s her top choice. If I told my bf that I definitely wouldn’t cheat on him and he kept questioning me and crying about it, I’d be annoyed too.
@@CandleAshes If you put it that way, it makes sense.
@@sbusisiweshaba1715 I’m not sure if it’s a western thing, but it is 100% a bachelor thing!
This season has been dictated about the guys and who or what they want. A double season doesn't work (well with the US one at least). I feel for Rachel and Gabby, they started on the back foot and I hope they're happy.
I think they're stupid girls
Rachel totally contradicted herself saying she wanted to save the L word until the end!
Not Rachel being a different person behind the camera than she is in front of the camera 🤦🏻♀️
Rachel is head over heels for Tino and that's why she's dismissing the fact his parents disapprove of them and why she decides to talk about politics and age differences with Zach and looking for any reason why they wouldn't work when simply she isn't attracted to him as she is to Tino.
Tino saying "nervy" totally bothered me too because I have to assume he's using it in this very casual, "obvy" kind of way, although I have to keep reminding myself it's like a REAL word too and actually totally legitimate to use in that context 😂
I like Zach for Bachelor (especially if the only other option they're offering us is Nate, yuck) but I hate that they're setting Rachel up as some kind of villain when it's so obvious that he was her F3, she is already all in on Tino, and Zach just caught that vibe once the cameras were gone and it hurt. Unfortunately it's part and parcel with how the show is run, two or three guys usually end up with very hurt feelings and Zach signed up to be one of them. 🤷🏻♀️
Me watching the first episode:
“Oh good, Aven seems like a more healthy relationship and she said he could be the one”…”RACHEL NOOOO!”
I bet the producers were punching their pillow when they realized two huge dramatic events went down in the fantasy suites where there’s no cameras hahaha I do think the politics things is interesting because according to Florida records, Rachel is affiliated with the Republican Party and Zach is from California, a generally blue state. Either way I have grown to like Zach all season and I hope they pick him as bachelor.
The fact that Rachel practically tried to gaslight Zach into thinking that he wasn’t ready for an engagement because she dosent have the decency to be honest with him is vile
I don't buy that. It seems so suspicious that we didn't get a single word of Rachel's side of the story. Makes me think production is trying to sell a narrative without giving us all of the information.
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Even if Paradise is a shorter timespan, the contestants get to spend more time together. So Paradise is probably perfect for the person who thinks the regular formula is just a little too fast.
Man the blink twice comment cracked me so hard.. I was drinking hot tea and I spilt it all over my computer and started chocking😂😂😂 I will never drink and watch your videos again 😅
I guffawed out loud with the call back to Tino acting like a “real baby back b*tch” omg tysm for these hillarious recaps!!! 🤣🤣
haha I was hoping you would talk about the dead bug in the champagne!!!
Brilliant recap as always! I laughed so hard at Erich’s added tear. 😂
I’m just glad that Logan and all his drama are out of the picture (for now). I vote for Aven for next bachelor, he’s the full package after all.
Logan was awesome!
this intro is the funniest thing I have ever seen. love you thank you for another great video
So was Jason the villain of the season? And Zach totally got the bachelor edit... Imo
hot take: jason's the real villain while everyone is busy being triggered by tino 😶🌫
I think that Rachel use the idea of him not being ready because of his age as an excuse she knew she wanted to let him go instead of not giving him a rose she made it look like it was decision to leave my guess is she picks tino ,and they break up soon afterward you could just tell on the men tell all that something was going on I don't think she with anyone right now.
That’s exactly what my bf and I thought when watching it! It just seemed like she was looking for an excuse to not pick him and that was the easiest one. I felt so bad for him cause you could tell he was shocked and it just showed Rachel’s immaturity for not giving Zach the truth that he deserves.
I think they are afraid of getting embarrassed and left with no one at the end so they keep even the ones they sorta like till the very end .
omg Jason was actually super honest. You don't know who I am and I don't know who you are. How do you expect us to get engaged? Say what you want about contestants knowing the process but Rachel & Gabby's was super rushed and done in half the time!
OK I died at this opening segment 🤣 you have outdone yourself yet again
I have been waiting for this ALL DAY! So excited! thanks for getting it out so quickly!
Lmao! I love your “uh-oh” every time. Cracks me up 🤣🤣🤣
You’re just so good at these, BF. Better than watching the show.
I feel like either 1 is religious and 1's not, or 1 is liberal and 1 is conservative which caused the riff the night of FS hence his comment about those conversations
I think so too, and I think that’s why he sounded so cold when he said “can we speak.” I think something that came up was a dealbreaker for him, and he checked out then and there
@@sabrinashelton1997 agreed, regardless of what he says when he pulls her aside at the rose ceremony, I think she was sending him home. It’s always been Tino
I think they just didn't have sex so he knew it wasn't him. Rachel probably knew it was Tino at that point so just to have the keep up appearances till the end. I think he thought it was him though so it through him off.
It's both, he's conservative and Catholic and she's liberal and probably not religious at all. He's not the one for her but he thought he was so his feelings are HURT. Doesn't make her a villain at all though, even though she's obviously all in on Tino that's pretty normal for this stage in the show, leads are just expected by production to play along.
@@alexandragatto So then Zach didn’t care about Rachael not being ‘religious’ until now? He was falling in love or loved her and didn’t know if she was a person of faith.
How lame!!
If you can’t establish commonality with something this fundamental right off the bat, then perhaps your faith is not that important.
Was he there for the ‘lights’?
Now that I think about this, he just lost all respect in my book.
literally just finished watching the recap and here we are! I honestly keep watching so I can watch these. Thanks for doing these
gabby the morning after her fantasy suite with jason made me so sad omg 😭 her voice was just so tiny and broken
This is just my opinion, but I think Rachel knew she didn’t want to continue with Zach so she pulled the age card on him even though she’s only a couple months older. She wanted Zach second guessing himself and eventually pulling away so she wouldn’t have to go through the rose ceremony with him. In other words, make it look like it was his decision to leave instead of hers. My guess is he will be the next bachelor. My gut says that she picks Tino, but it doesn’t work out, and she’s back to being single again. I’m hoping Erich wasn’t chosen by default. Hopefully Gabby and Erich worked things out and are still together, but it looks like he just wants to date her before any engagement according to next week’s preview. 🤷♀️
Yeah, I was wondering about gabby and Eric. I hope she didn’t pick him by default because it seems like he genuinely cares for her.
I feel like Jason was so so honest. You can be ready for something for a while and then it HITS you that, it’s not the same under these circumstances. I don’t know why Jason stayed though… I think he just told her what she wanted to hear. He’s right, within this bubble in like 6 weeks, and dates that last 2 hours or 20 mins of face time… how do you ACTUALLY know who they are. I’m sorry she felt led on but as someone who has been through the process before I would’ve thought she understood his points more. And it’s easy to say they should’ve communicated more, but how and where? On a group date where he sees her for 5 mins? That’s why all these couples keep breaking up, they don’t work in real life because they don’t actually know each other.
And even though it’s late in the process, at least he didn’t wait until after he slept with her to come to the “sudden” realization. He didn’t humiliate her or use her for clout as we’ve seen other contestants do over the years.
Please give them air conditioned places to have evening dates!
It's hard for me to express how much I love ur videos lol
I literally cried at the end of the second episode with Gabby and Erich
this recap was HILARIOUS 😂 and just so good!
thank you for your hard work, i look forward to these every week
I love all the office inserts. I am watching all the seasons. On season 6. Watched it several times. Lol
That was the funniest recap intro that I've ever seen! Thanks for the Gilmore Girls clip, too! And is anyone else getting Greg Grippo AND Brendan Morais flashbacks?
I feel like Rachel was almost just as bad as Clayton. She told Aven she’s “falling in love with him” then most likely sleeps with him, then goes on to tell Tino she’s “in love with him” and most likely sleeps with him (which is no big deal) then still invites Zach to the fantasy suite when we already know she wants Tino. There was no reasons to invite him when you just told another man you love them. But to get mad at Clayton for sleeping with two people then you most likely do the same thing and tell two people you love them/falling for them. (Because Clayton just told gabby he was falling for her until the very end when he told the two of them everything) Rachel was my favorite in his season and now I just think she’s kinda hypocritical
Agreed.
But people are arguing it was the way he handled it. He told Gabby and Rachel he had slept with them both and was in love with both of them, then he told them to stay one more week, then broke up with them at the same time not individually. I too was not a fan of Rachel saying she wouldn't say I love you until the end and then saying it with Tino, BUT that's not quite the same.
@@imapineapple15 that’s why I said almost she’s not as bad as what he did but she still can’t be mad at him for sleeping with two women if she did sleep with two men. He definitely was wrong for how he handled it
Go back to Clayton. He did not tell all 3, "I am falling in love with you," which is fairly common. He told all 3 ladies, "I love you," which is generally held in reserve for the winner. That coupled with all the wooing for each one was the problem.
Rachel told us in a voice over that Tino had NOT told her how he felt. It was obvious to most of us that Tino was her choice, so it wasn't great, but I wasn't extremely surprised when Rachel returned Tino's "I love you with an "I love you" of her own. Now she has herself in a bit of a corner. What is she going to do about the other 2?
Now! Unlike poor Gabby who only has 1 guy left, Rachel has 3 very viable choices left. After her session with Tino, Rachel knows what she wants, and she is going to have to start doing something about the other two guys.
I don't think it was religion or politics with Zach. I think Rachel needed to find something that would begin to put doubts in Zac's mind or to discourage him. Although he is only 4 months younger than she, Zac said she began seriously questioning his age to commit to marriage. In addition it was her manner and her attitude (he implied) that makes me think she might have been setting him up to exit on his own.
I wonder why they didn’t show the morning after with tino
yes! That is weird, isn't it?
Because he freaked out she was going to go at it with another contestant?
Jason just wanted a free vacation. He doesn’t even want to be Gabby’s boyfriend, let alone her husband. That blank expression on his face all season was really annoying/concerning.
Me.looking for comments as I watch. Realizing this was posted 24s ago!!
Same... i got nothing to go on🙁
Luckily the video is long enough that you finish and comments are there 😂
This might sound odd but something weirded me out about the way Zach said “can we speak?”. I guess to me it sounds more aggressive than “can we talk?”. That last scene was Jesse in the empty studio was so dramatic for no reason lol who came up with that? Looking forward to the preview breakdown video because after watching it a second time and seeing comments/tweets, I’m starting to theorize what might happen.
Zach sounded so corporate to me! Not how you would speak to someone you’re closely dating, even if you’re being extra polite because you’re with the other guys.
Chill... he was likely nervous, the main thing is that the message was heard.
@@Sipu97 I was thinking that. When you’re really anxious about needing to say something the words can get caught in your throat. You’re in your head thinking “Just say it. You need to talk before it’s too late” and you end up blurting it out louder and/or more intense than you intended.
@@Sipu97 good point. I can see that being the case.
Also the fact that production probably told him to wait until that very dramatic, almost rose grab🌹 ✋️ They were probably staring him down from some hidden place, trying to give him cues to not say it too early haha
Awesome editing! Very funny take on this messy episode. Now I’d better take some time to gather my thoughts and prepare for next week’s most dramatic and emotional ending ever 😆