Dat Medusa farm is insane on XBOCT, and it is against ALLIANCE. Not many carries would be able to do that. Simply #1 carry in the world. Plus XBOCT dominated ALLIANCE with Death Prophet carrying in game 2. Amazing drafts by Puppey too.
wtf is this biasness from lumi on Alliance? Navi is leading by 10k and more and the gold graph "needs to be steeper", Aghanims Nightstalker is for TANKINESS? WHAT? Lumi are you okay?
Azmi LeEgg Lumi's point was that [A] has a lot more synergy between their heroes and they use gold much better than Na'Vi. So 10k gold on [A] does a lot more than 30k gold on Na'Vi, which is why he wanted the graph steeper. It could've actually worked for [A] because bulldog got his Radiance pretty quickly, but the tanky-build reply from Puppey was pure genious. #Na'ViFan #TI3Revenge
Well, AGHS provides a fair amount of tank, but its not the main idea behind getting it. =) NS is a natural tank. Throw an aghs on top and you have fat hero to deal with. =)
Agreed with the comments above. A Chen and NS fall off late game so they need a really good lead early. Otherwise DK and Gyro will just wipe them every fight if they have even close to equal farm. The best thing Na'Vi have is Medusa's ult. It really just forces them not to fight Medusa.
its funny how 95% of casters are actually navi fans. I noticed it in so many games... no matter who is casting. Anyway Great Game, en ehhh i prefer Navi too, simply for their awesome play style. ps BAN RAT DOTA
OMG. all this hate on Lumi means he is popular now! Can't be a phenom without the haters LMAO. keep it up Lumi and LD, the critics are only a reflection of how many fans you guys have
Lots of comments on the casters :o As a Na'Vi fan, I havn't noticed as much earlier as I did this game, but man did they keep talking about Na'Vi all the time. It was like watching a commentary on Na'Vi's game, not really on the match itself. LD is still my favourite commentator and Lumi really is up there, but this game... eh.
About 2 months later, I saw alot of people blame lumi bias Na'vi, now it's come to Alliance... I mean, come on, Na'vi has 1 core, Alliance has 3. It is like you have 3k net worth on Shadow shaman and 1.5k on Gyro, late game Gyro still beats SS, for sure. To be fair, it is a lead, but due to the nature of Alliance's heroes, a good fight and they will be out of control. However, it seems like LD and Lumi has overrated Alliance draft. The draft looks nice with 3 cores, but the main point is they do not have BURST damage for early to mid game. They also have no way to punish NS diving tower too. I still like Alliance draft, but it is too safe. And, again, classic Na'vi, aggressive, explosive and Dendi ::)). I won 2 rares anyway :))).
~10k gold behind, 1/4 of the map you can farm with any safety, 3 cores who need farm, an opposition with an Aghs NS to keep you dewarded and a Medusa with 3/4 of the map to farm. Easy to say in hindsight, but that doesn't really sound like a promising situation, yet the casters still favoured Alliance. Odd.
Yeah i found that really odd too. Na'vi had the advantage far and away, and only a big blunder was going to cost them the game at that point. Also funny how they say the don't see synergy between Dusa/Clock/NS when Scepter for Hook Vision, cogs, and Dusa Gaze won them almost every fight. Oh well.
I feel Tobi and Bruno should cast these sort of high level team matches instead of LD and Lumi. I just think Tobi is such a great caster and Bruno knows way more about item choices than Lumi... Lumi is just mehhhh (-.-)"
i just think they are trying to compensate for being on navi's side the last matches and recieving hate for being unbiased then ..can\t blame them, at least they listen and comment to viewers
because its damage isnt very good and the slow is more than enough for kills. His two other skills are much better and work together to be great push, anti push and all out damage potential.
Probably because Alliance ton TI3, beating Na'Vi to do so, and in a very similar situation (down by a lot, but came back with a close base race). So most likely they felt that Alliance was the team to beat.
Its like lumi has got cocky or full of himself, but he and bballin where in a moment the only good insight dota strat and he knows a lot, no like tobi that is a commentator like in soccer with a lot of screaming and mood oriented shenanigans. Back in dota1 lumi rarely said stuff like "i think thats a mistake, i wouldnt do that ETC", now he goes against the best players in the world and acts like he could had played or thinked something better.
Well alliance won the big one when it really mattered .... the best football teams are who wins the world cups or champions league , not some smaller competition.
"The Weasel lives a charmed life, I gotta say." LD, this is why I love you.
Idk why everyone is upset with lumi and LD I think they are great commentators
Dat Medusa farm is insane on XBOCT, and it is against ALLIANCE. Not many carries would be able to do that. Simply #1 carry in the world. Plus XBOCT dominated ALLIANCE with Death Prophet carrying in game 2. Amazing drafts by Puppey too.
I think Kuroky is the MVP of Na'Vi rather than XBOCT. Not to take away from his play though.
Abhishek Kumar Yea definitely.
Damn, Na'Vi's support played spectacularly this series. Kuroky, Funnik and Puppey are incredible!
wtf is this biasness from lumi on Alliance? Navi is leading by 10k and more and the gold graph "needs to be steeper", Aghanims Nightstalker is for TANKINESS? WHAT? Lumi are you okay?
Azmi LeEgg Lumi's point was that [A] has a lot more synergy between their heroes and they use gold much better than Na'Vi. So 10k gold on [A] does a lot more than 30k gold on Na'Vi, which is why he wanted the graph steeper. It could've actually worked for [A] because bulldog got his Radiance pretty quickly, but the tanky-build reply from Puppey was pure genious. #Na'ViFan #TI3Revenge
Well, AGHS provides a fair amount of tank, but its not the main idea behind getting it. =) NS is a natural tank. Throw an aghs on top and you have fat hero to deal with. =)
Agreed with the comments above. A Chen and NS fall off late game so they need a really good lead early. Otherwise DK and Gyro will just wipe them every fight if they have even close to equal farm. The best thing Na'Vi have is Medusa's ult. It really just forces them not to fight Medusa.
remember lumi rares are on NaVi, he is just being a good caster by like the fans know there is still a chance.
Alliance's draft does look stronger on paper.They can deal a shitload more damage so I guess that's why he seemed biased?
Great casting and production, guys, for a great set of games!
its funny how 95% of casters are actually navi fans. I noticed it in so many games... no matter who is casting. Anyway Great Game, en ehhh i prefer Navi too, simply for their awesome play style. ps BAN RAT DOTA
OMG. all this hate on Lumi means he is popular now! Can't be a phenom without the haters LMAO. keep it up Lumi and LD, the critics are only a reflection of how many fans you guys have
Lots of comments on the casters :o
As a Na'Vi fan, I havn't noticed as much earlier as I did this game, but man did they keep talking about Na'Vi all the time. It was like watching a commentary on Na'Vi's game, not really on the match itself.
LD is still my favourite commentator and Lumi really is up there, but this game... eh.
Draft 2:44
Game 12:18
About 2 months later, I saw alot of people blame lumi bias Na'vi, now it's come to Alliance... I mean, come on, Na'vi has 1 core, Alliance has 3. It is like you have 3k net worth on Shadow shaman and 1.5k on Gyro, late game Gyro still beats SS, for sure. To be fair, it is a lead, but due to the nature of Alliance's heroes, a good fight and they will be out of control.
However, it seems like LD and Lumi has overrated Alliance draft. The draft looks nice with 3 cores, but the main point is they do not have BURST damage for early to mid game. They also have no way to punish NS diving tower too. I still like Alliance draft, but it is too safe. And, again, classic Na'vi, aggressive, explosive and Dendi ::)). I won 2 rares anyway :))).
~10k gold behind, 1/4 of the map you can farm with any safety, 3 cores who need farm, an opposition with an Aghs NS to keep you dewarded and a Medusa with 3/4 of the map to farm. Easy to say in hindsight, but that doesn't really sound like a promising situation, yet the casters still favoured Alliance. Odd.
Because they had a chance and they blew it, xvost started doing great gazes and it all went to shit.
Yeah i found that really odd too. Na'vi had the advantage far and away, and only a big blunder was going to cost them the game at that point. Also funny how they say the don't see synergy between Dusa/Clock/NS when Scepter for Hook Vision, cogs, and Dusa Gaze won them almost every fight. Oh well.
At one point they clearly said they favoured Na'Vi 60-40 with how the game was going.
Very exciting game thanks for uploading BTS!
Luminous Inverse cool shirt man, wish i had 1
15:50 actually one charge is less efficient, especially with a ground courier. but it's good if other teammates need to use the chicken.
I feel Tobi and Bruno should cast these sort of high level team matches instead of LD and Lumi. I just think Tobi is such a great caster and Bruno knows way more about item choices than Lumi...
Lumi is just mehhhh (-.-)"
Tobi Synderen!!
Charlie Brownjohn
Don't forget claivoryance man, his early game talk on team lineups are near accurate
If you ever say that tobi is a good commentator again, I will tell you that it is a lie.
i just think they are trying to compensate for being on navi's side the last matches and recieving hate for being unbiased then ..can\t blame them, at least they listen and comment to viewers
Wow. Navi outplayed Alliance. What a draft by s4, awesome but Na'Vi did what they're supposed to do. Best Team right now and ever.
Intro song? (When starting international)
Did Na'Vi just ban NP in all games? >.
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great game to both teams though I want [A] to win...they take it to the stretch of 5 games...only Navi and [A]~
XVOST HITTING LIKE [A] BOSS
where can i buy lumis T-shirt !?!?!?!?!?
"I just don't think Na'Vi could kill these guys"
They need to replace lumi with purge or something. literally nobody likes him.
Guys navi won every final after ti3
Including starladder lan...
This horrible website won't buffer for me at all tonight... I want to watch the game!
I gotta say, this was Kuroky's game. Nothing more.
why is xboct playing as xvost? trolling?
GO GO NA'VI!! DUSA ON META ROCKS!
Amazing play
Commentartors should not show their affection towards teams, since it changes the experience spectators get
Only reason F[A]gs won TI3 is because Na'Vi let them win it.
2-1 Na'Vi vs Alliance in Finals
Na'Vi got Starladder and WePlay
Alliance got The International 3
Go Alliance!!!
xbox new zsmj?
you can only defeat navi in the groupstage... but in the finals...NO you can't :D
don't say things like that. people will immediately talk about TI3
btw, viva Na'Vi :D
they both favor with alliance its clearly navi's game with 10k gold advantage
it's funny that commentators don't understand anything about itemization.
No r[A]t doto, no victory.
how come veno leaves gale @ lvl 1?
because its damage isnt very good and the slow is more than enough for kills. His two other skills are much better and work together to be great push, anti push and all out damage potential.
37:03
Na'Vi 6.79 Kings!!
fuck yeah! go Na'Vi
holy fuck that is a massive coffee mug....
"How come navi can kill these guys" said that stupid lumi..haha
navi have beaten alliance in every tournament since ti3
Nooooo. *sigh*
Anyway,congrats and WP Navi.
So much [A] hate haha
Puppey Strat. How do you win tanky heros? You out tank them. Smart as fuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
gyro is a bad carry with 15seconds downtime on flakcannon , medusa ftw
40:35 A FISH! XD
funn1k is OP this patch
I find both of the commentatators are biased towards alliance
Probably because Alliance ton TI3, beating Na'Vi to do so, and in a very similar situation (down by a lot, but came back with a close base race). So most likely they felt that Alliance was the team to beat.
funnik has a bad start, navi win. bulldog bad start, instant alliance loss.
shoulda picked prophet and ratted more.
furion was navi's first ban in every game lol
meudusa!meudusa!meudusa!meudusa!meudusa!
they both in favor with alliance :/ its clearly navi game with 10k advantage
Go Lumi!
Its like lumi has got cocky or full of himself, but he and bballin where in a moment the only good insight dota strat and he knows a lot, no like tobi that is a commentator like in soccer with a lot of screaming and mood oriented shenanigans.
Back in dota1 lumi rarely said stuff like "i think thats a mistake, i wouldnt do that ETC", now he goes against the best players in the world and acts like he could had played or thinked something better.
Oh god i'm sick of LD being a Na'Vi fanboy and Lumi being an [A] fanboy. Can i watch something impartially commented? :|
And I am super sick of Tobi Wan talking about his pants.
SO i just saw this video ,, its so fuking amazing
45:45 lmfaoo
Get Lumi out cos he fuking thinks everything he says it right. If anyone puts in their input, he would strike it down every time.
Lumi is better caster than you right? He's also more entertaining than tobi wan, who just talks about his pants and tries to make the crowd laugh.
Medusa
Once upon a time idiots were saying Alliance was the better team lol.
Well alliance won the big one when it really mattered .... the best football teams are who wins the world cups or champions league , not some smaller competition.
gingerbill128
it will really matter if they can defend it or win another one, cause big teams not just win one tour to be the best.
gingerbill128
They were new and people had no idea how to play them.
HAHHAAH rod of aui2000
last gg was sooo tobi
Na vi won ti 1...Lumi Na vi fanboy...Alliance won ti 3...Lumi Alliance fanboy...oh cmon...
Lumi actually bet his rares on Na'vi according to what he said in previous games
ez navi
pls stop it lumi
cry pls aliance fans~
So much bias
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wow 322 out the ass, alliance threw for money i bet you anything.
Alliance just lose and then they threw?? what a fanboy conclusion.. :3
Kuro SS Mvp
navi!
Lumi is just a dog. Dog to who got the championship.
navi fan boys hating comentators.
disband.
Typical BTS bias. So much hate for Navi. LD and Lumi Navi hater confirmed!
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they both favor with alliance its clearly navi's game with 10k gold advantage