Kirby games are so fun. It’s always the same where you start fighting trees and flowers just for the finale to evolve into dethroning cosmic horror type beings and interstellar gods.
@@greenhydra10A Paper Mario/Mario & Luigi like RPG for Kirby doesn't actually sound that bad. Many fans love to see how crazy the lore gets with each new game, if the RPG is canon then they can expand it even more than Star Allies did
16:24 there are singers who can sing like this, it's called whistle pitch/tone, it's of course a skill that needs to be trained for and not just anyone can learn to do it, but it absolutely is humanly possible
The fight is not really scripted, but there are many transitions for the music depending on how fast you're defeating the boss. The poster just so happened to play the last part twice.
iirc the loop point for the first phase of the song is the short violin part that you hear around the 9:57 mark, right before the tense build-up with the organ. Once the boss gets down to a certain amount of health, there are 14 possible musical transitions the game can use to smoothly bring you into that build-up section, depending on where you are in the song at the time.
Everything you said about high stakes and scale was on point. The " Roche limit" is basically the point where two planets start to collide and tear each other apart. So the stakes are two whole planets and the scale increases in the second phase when the boss actually summons the second planet to collide with the one you're fighting on.(also please listen to C-R-O-W-N-E-D/ roar of dedede or sword of the surviving guardian)
More accurately, it's the point at which it is no longer possible to avert. The two planets WILL tear each other apart until only one is left. It is simultaneously literal for Dreamland & The Forgotten Land and a metaphor for Kirby & Fecto Elfilis, two opposing catastrophic forces have come into range of one another, now the destruction of one of them is imminent and inevitable. On a tangental note of "Cool phrases used for this fight" Fecto Elfilis has an attack named "The Fermi Paradox's Answer." Person: "Why have we never encountered intelligent life out in the infinite universe?" Fecto Elfilis: "Me."
Please, please, someone get this man to listen to the rest of the soundtrack besides the final boss music. There's so much good Kirby music that is legitimately underrated because people latch onto the final boss themes (which are great, but also tend to overshadow the rest of the soundtrack in popularity).
What songs would you recommend, because I’ve never owned a single Kirby game but after listening to a few of the boss themes like this one i was very surprised by how good the music is 😅
@@Midnight-8262 Literally *any* Kirby music that isn't a final boss theme. like... Yearning For Yellow Sky Tower Iceberg Ocean (Kirby's Dream Course) Storming the Halberd Rainbow Resort Battle of Blizzard Bridge Gourmet Race The Great Cave Offensive A Trip To Alivel Mall Toy Rhythm Happy Mambo (Kirby's Return to Dream Land) Fly, Kirby! Factory Inspection Soda Sea Dethskulk Jam Yogurt Yard Sand Canyon 3 This is just a selection of tracks from the entirety of the Kirby series.
@@Midnight-8262 to throw in some of my own suggestions for non-boss Kirby music: 1) Planet Towara 2) Overload Ocean 3) Quest Board 4) Kirby Fighters 2 main theme 5) The Wastes Where Life Began 6) Sky Tower 7) Floral Fields 8) Mint Leaf 9) A Well-Deserved Rest 10) Crossing into the parallel with you 11) One of the Miracles 12) The Happiest Curtain Call 13) Legend of the Last World 14) Ripple Red 15) Reflected Laughter 16) Admiring the Figure Collection And there are certainly many more tracks that I myself can't remember off the top of my head. As for game recommendations, if you want the best experience for newcomers then Forgotten Land would be your pick due to its higher accessibility as a 3D game. Return to Dreamland Deluxe is another option that provides the quintessential 2D Kirby experience with lots of additional add on as a remake that make it easy contention for top 3 Kirby titles of all time. Finally, Super Kirby Clash is a free to start boss gauntlet game that still has decent online player activity.
Some additional Info you might find interesting (no Spoilers) This theme plays for the final fight of the Game. As you guessed, it is made up of multiple phases. However, there aren't any scripted sequences while this theme plays. I think that the version you listened to goes to the second phese theme instead of looping. There are also multiple transitions between the music for those phases that were included in this version. The one that is used in game depends in what part of the theme you are at when you damage the boss enough. Kirby and the forgotten land has a great soundtrack throughout the entire game and I recomend everyone to play it
Funny enough the Boss IS phase based, however it's not at all scripted. Nintendo quite literally recorded multiple points in the music where the player might possibly trigger the next phase so that at multiple points in the song, a smooth transition will happen no matter what and that's those parts where you hear a new instrument being introduced.
Chaos elfilis is probably my favorite boss in any game ever. The music, stage, and fight are all so perfectly executed. I also really love how against it's final phase, normal kirby without powerups is actually really effective
This game is so underrated, I had more fun playing this than maybe any other switch game. My husband and I played it two player and I have not had such a good couch co-op experience in like a decade.
Fun fact: the Roche Limit is the area around a planet in which a satellite that is inside will be ripped apart by the planet's gravitational pull. This is fitting for the Fecto Elfilis fight because, during the climax of the fight, they try to have Dreamland crash into the Forgotten Land, literally making two planets approach their Roche Limit. The other reason it's fitting is because Fecto Elfilis can be seen as approaching their own "Roche Limit" since they are two beings (Fecto Forgo and Elfilin) being forced to be combined.
You did NOT saw this coming?? Look... I've heard Crowned, Moonstruck Blossom, Mind in Program, and all the Void Termina music (all final bosses themes from Kirby) and I STILL WASN'T READY FOR THIS! 😂
I'm glad you're covering this, Kirby music is great. I love how you called attention to the apparent lack of loop points. The first phase normally does loop at a certain point, but this version track seems to include the transition to Phase 2 rather than the loop. However, if I recall, there are a number of points in which it can transition into the second phase, with unique transitions for each point in the song so that it never sounds too abrupt in-game. I find that interesting, and it would probably take a lot of work to make that happen.
one thing i could be completely wrong about but just a thought the song sounds angelic and otherworldly, but it also has the standard kirby funkiness you’d expect from a typical battle or just a typical day in a Kirby game Makes me think of the fact you’re battling elfilis, your ally through the whole game and something you think of as typical kirby, and throw in the strange alien creature that he fused with for this boss to add the angelic, strange undertones and it all feels really intentional to me something to add is that there’s a phase not included here that’s kinda post-fight, and it’s where dreamland is completely visible and now the music takes a turn and becomes even more dreamland-esque, more familiar, triumphant, and just what’s expected from kirby defending his home again especially since it’s the obvious focus of that part. Also it’s basically the invincibility theme for kirby
Kirby composers always cook way harder than they would realistically need to and we love them for it. If you look at them from an unbiased eye, Kirby games are actually pretty basic (but very solid and fun, of course) platformers with beat-em-up elements, but just the overall presentation and soundtrack is what make them truly special. They ooze so much charm and passion, it's unbelievable.
8:16 Kirby music is known for its super funky bass lines especially the ones made by Hirokazu Ando. A really good example of this is Blue Blizzard Remix (Area 3) from return to dreamland dx. The bass in that song is incredible.
If you listen to another Kirby final boss theme, you literally cannot go wrong with any of them. Many are iconic in their own rights amd every single one of them is extremely climactic, because if anyone must know anything before getting into a Kirby game, god slaying is his entire MO. Kirby actively defends the universe by himself and all he's doing is his best, because he wants to make friends. Its great
16:25 That soprano can really sing that high. I was watching MarcoMeatball do a reaction to this. He's, a former pro opera singer and he said that is takes years to sing that high and even then not all sopranos can do it.
One of my favorite Kirby music facts is that two particular composers, Jun Ishikawa and Hirokazu Ando, have been contributing music to the series for over 30 years at this point (Ishikawa since the very first game). This particular track (and most recent final boss tracks) was composed by Ando.
For those who don't know -- "The Roche Limit" is the point at which the gravity of a celestial body becomes too great for smaller bodies to handle, and they start breaking down while maintaining orbit, creating things like Saturn's rings or the Asteroid Belt. I assume the two planets are Dream Land and the Forgotten Land, getting close enough that they start tearing each other apart... Though you could also interpret it as Elfilis and Kirby themselves, two immensely powerful beings who break down everything around them, and who now must collide, forcing them to break each other over and over until only one remains. From Leongar to Forgo to Elfilis, from Base Form to Copy Ability to Mouthful, the two great celestial bodies will tear themselves and their opponents apart, and the world around them will crumble from the force of their clash. Everything pulverized and destroyed. Everything shattered into space dust and orbiting rings. All must orbit Kirby and Elfilis, all must hold its breath to see who wins. Two "planets" approach the Roche Limit.
No, both parts of this track loop. The long multi measure organ transition into the rock second half is actually the 8 or so different measures, 1 of which would be dynamically used to bridge the 1st phase’s loop with the 2nd phase’s loop, depending on the chord of the music leading into the 2nd phase, of course. The official soundtrack ties them all together in a row at the very end of the first loop for the sake of using every part of the song in the OST, giving this version its own unique extended bridge that you would normally only hear a snippet of in gameplay for the sake of the pacing of the battle Also, whistle pitch does exist and real singers can sing like that, but this is seemingly not a real singer (I don’t know this part, it just sounds as such considering everything else is synthesized), even if the technique can be replicated
Fun fact: one of the attacks this boss can perform is called the Fermi Paradox Answer The Fermi paradox is the question of if there is life in the universe, why haven't we encountered it yet? The suggestion is that this creature is why. I love this franchisem
@concordiaharmony2302 aaaah... that does make a lot of sense. That attack does use multiple different models, so i do question what specific one has that name, but it might be a combination of everything, I remember other bosses having interestingly named objects
TPATRL! Probably one of my favorite songs ever, with some great covers. Totally recommend listening to Juno Songs' version of this with lyrics if you end up watching a playthrough or playing the game, but the whole song itself is a masterpiece on its own that deserves to be appreciated. I am very normal about this song and the accompanying boss.
I absolutely love Kirby games and there final boss themes. They are just so incredible and encapsulates the entire journey and how far you have come so perfectly. Some of my favorite songs of all time are honestly from Kirby and my favorite track from the entire series has got to be Two Planets Approaches The Roch Limit.
The meaning of the song changes when your fighting Chaos Elfilis (the secret final boss) There are two final bosses.. 3 counting morpho knight Both version of the fight with Elfilis have multiple phases Fecto Elfilis has its base form then a desperation form Chaos Elfilis is similar but has 3 phases instead of 2 becomes it becomes a core similar to void termina
0:39 thank God, i was really hoping for you to actually just take that part of the stream and edit it into a video, but i'm glad you just made a whole video about this instead❤❤❤❤❤
The music starts by slowly introducing the stage. Then the main music piece kicks in with the boss title card. This is his stage, he is the doom of the forgotten lands, and we are nothing. The underlying melody, burried here nearly completely. The Melody breaks through for only a moment, Kirby's melody, and then it is immediately burried by even more rhythmic aggression.
This song does have essentially 3 phases, but the version in the in-game sound test seamlessly transitions between them. The point when you noticed the strong shift is when the final phase starts. It's honestly incredible they were able to make it sound that clean and continuous, it makes me wish the song had a proper ending instead of just looping that final phase.
I don't really hear what you mean about the lack of melody around ~6:45, but that could be because my ears are so trained to hear it after playing the game - Kirby games have had several recurring leitmotifs, but Forgotten Land in particular remixes its main theme into a TON of its tracks, and Two Planets Approach the Roche Limit is no exception! The song doesn't need to spend much time establishing the melody because the player would have heard it countless times on the way to reaching the point where it plays.
As others have said, you're listening to the sound test version which is different from how the song actually plays during the fight proper. The way the latter works is even more layers of genius because they have to account for the fact that the fight isn't on rails. And they do so successfully!
Babe wake up, Davi's covering Kirby music! Ironically enough, I was thinking about this theme randomly this morning so I'm taking that as a prophecy from our lord and saviour Void. In all seriousness I highly recommend modern Kirby music, especially the final boss themes, but all tracks from all the games have been absolutely fire. Two Planets Approach the Roche Limit is such a metal name for a fight against an angry space squirrel who went mad listening to the same voice lines over and over and now wants to smash the Forgotten Land and Dreamland together to make a smoothie (I might be oversimplifying just a little bit). This melancholy theme against a sunsetting backdrop that transitions to triumphant horns as Elfilis throws meteors in your direction is so surreal and shows the wonderful talent on display over at Hal in the music department. My favourite little detail is that the transition piece towards phase 2 (see 10:02) is actually one of a number of small musical segments designed to transition the Phase 1 theme based on where it is in the song all leading to the organs (see 10:13 and 11:44) that transition to Phase 2. The fact that they even bothered when they could have just abruptly moved to the new phase theme like standard is just one of the many reasons I adore the Kirby composers, cannot recommend the soundtracks enough!
I have to also recommend the Drawcia Sorceress and Drawcia Ball themes, for the two stages of the final boss in Kirby Canvas Curse. If I didn't know better I'd think it was Castlevania
Everything you said about the chords is really interesting... I write music on my off-time sometimes, so studying up on these chords and how I might be able to put them together could be pretty fun!
The other comment. Not much to say. I finally progressing in Twilight Princess and I really enjoying the music, looking forward to progress in the game further. Live is good, I can't complain. AND the best moment of the week by far: Yesterday (Thursday) they uploaded to RUclips a video of when an orchestra a few weeks ago performed some of the songs from Blasphemous 1 and 2. IT'S INCREDIBLE AND IT MAKES ME SOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY. They aren't probably 'the best' songs from the games, but the feeling of seeing an orchestra perform music from a game that I love and that deserves it so much is awesome. Well, that's all.¡Adíos Davi, and again, enjoy the trip!
It's funny how davi asks what is happening in the game while this plays, when the title quite literaly says it (as unbelievable as it is). Two planets approach the roche limit, a real life limit which denotes the distance to planets have to be from each other to attract each other with their gravitational forces. Now that it's spelled out this game's ending is absoloutely insane (as all kirby games' are and very well should be)
Actually, no. The Roche limit is the point at which the force of gravity between two celestial bodies is so large, that they are torn apart, destroying each other without ever making contact. The pieces of Popstar you drive through in the final sequence are the result of this, as well as the buildings that are floating in the sky.
youre one of my favorite musicians to watch, i learn a lot from your simple explanations as music is just my side hobby. But i cant believe you still havent checked Bury the Light yet
DUDE I totally caught that windwaker violin but I didn't know what it was making me think of LMAO. I used to play that on the WII when I was like 8. Good times.
There is a loop point for the first phase, and then there’s a transition. However, what’s so interesting about the transition is that it’s only a couple of measures, and that there are multiple leadup measures into the actual transition from any melodical point from Phase 1. Then there’s the Phase 2 Loop.
What I find interesting is that the composer went out of their way to create multiple melodical ways to end up in the same transitional phrase from the Phase 1 loop.
explanation for the roche (pronounced rowsh) limit. if two objects are orbiting each other, there is a distance that is too close of either one or both to keep their shape due to the gravity involved. the Roche limit is the point at which the gravity starts to tear one of the objects apart. in the context of this game, this boss battle is taking place as the planet kirby is on, is approaching the Roche limit of popstar (Kirby's home planet). this is happening because to the boss you are fighting, and will stop when you defeat them, so the steaks are very high.
8:00 yeah, Hirokazu Ando (the composer of the theme) likes to lean into jazzy improvisational passages (usually piano) when he's not busy filling a track to the brim with motifs. In this case, it's from "The Battle of Blizzard Bridge" (or so I think). Even if you don't make a video on it, I highly recommend listening to it for some context. PS: do you use the terms "happy chord" and "sad chord" as simplifications for those less versed, or are those the definitions you're more familiar with?
It was a cover of Meta Knight’s Revenge that won the Grammy. This game’s Meta Knight theme is based on My Friend and the Setting Sun. Still a banger track, though.
I don't know if you've done it, but just to keep with the Kirby theme maybe you could do Star Traveling Conqueror The Full Five Suite just for wildness of that full track?
Finally ! The end of the game with an awesome final boss ! Or wait...is this really the end of the game ? Spoiler ahead: Great fake-out final boss, classic Kirby game moment.
To be fair, the "real" final boss is both flavorfully the same guy and has the same theme except for the bridge (which doesn't play the way it does in this version anyway)
@@HeraldOfOperaI think they were talking about Leon as the final boss which is deliberately kinda underwhelming and definitely a bit different of an atmosphere from the actual final boss
I would recommend reacting to some things from the game named 'Cloudbuilt' Namely 'Aerial Walkways', 'Sinister Gale' and 'Solar Eclipse' in comparison to 'Spiritwalker' on the track. I'd like to see the breakdown of that.
If you like this, you should have a listen to the overal vibe of the Pikmin 4 OST and then react to the Pikmin 4 final boss, the Ancient SireHound. Or just the optional boss Groovy Long Legs whose theme is baked into the game and not just a piece of music laid on top of the gameplay. They clash with what you'd usually associate with Pikmin and yet and it works so, so well when you've been following the story and in the case of the final boss especially, as the theme fits the character you're fighting more than the actual creature. Have a listen and you'll see what I mean, just know that the direction is a first for the Pikmin series.
you should check out some of the soundtracks from Sky COTL! its my favorite game, the music really likes to use their themes, and the tracks i recommend would be Flight, Waltzing in the Rain, and An Upwards Dance.
Love your work David, keep it up! I would love to hear your input on Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 - Une vie à peindre. I know this song is right up your alley! Its been stuck in my head since the XBOX showcase !
Daviiiiiiiiiiiiiii! This time I will leave another comment since we won't have stream in a while. Suggestion: Lágrimas de Grana y Oro fro Blasphemous 1. Video: Yeah, I was waiting the video! I haven't played any Kirby game, but from the tracks that people suggest in the live streams I knew I will really enjoy it jajajaja. Oh man, an incredible track. I remember the vocals cause the reminded me of The Diva Dance, realistic but impossible. That's it for the video. ¡Adiós Davi, enjoy Japan!
I'm only noticing it now, but this track reminds me of botw/totk's soundtrack. I lack the music vocabulary to describe the specific similarity I'm noticing, but... you guys hear it too, right?
All Kirby music is so amazing and epic! If you want a recommendation for one of the best songs in all of Kirby, listen to the star conquering traveler full suite. It’s even better than fecto elfilis’s theme imo
So uh, I would like to recommend a song that sounds very good, and I highly recommend. It's called i am pretty sure "Prince Mush Battle theme" from Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door Remake, Idk the Official name for the song but it slaps really hard.
I am using a translator so my English may be wrong. I always enjoy watching your sharp thoughts and commentary on various game music! Is it possible to request music to be handled by this channel? If so, how do I make a request? There is some game music that I would like you to listen to.
I don't really know if the themes are created to mean something tied to the game or if it sounds cool to sound cool, but I'd love to see you react to Sea of Stars ost which I think is really great
Fun fact (SPOILERS: BEAT THE MAIN STORY FIRST PLEASE) One of the final boss’s attacks is called “The Fermi Paradox’s answer.” The Fermi paradox says that if space is so big why do we not see any aliens? Here’s the game answer.. Fecto Elfilis killed them all.
This man should listen to OVERLORD or Moonstruck Blossom. For Overlord he should listen the RTDX's 2nd phase for the cries of help Also that voice is from sampletank
Take#2: Hello Davi! I am here to suggest that you should do League of Legends music themes at some point, the one that I highly suggest is God King Darius Login screen Theme. Here's just a little run down of that Skin's lore. "God-King Darius is a bringer of true carnage-the descendant of primordial deities long forgotten in the shadow of Demacia. Slaughtering monarchs and gods alike, he seeks to end the false world of unity and peace, ushering in an age of endless war where only the strongest will survive." A quick run down from of my own opinion, honestly, he knows that peace is an option, but, the way people get treated even under someones rulership don't get treated the right way. For example, his opposite, God King Garen, He rules the vast kingdom of Demacia with an iron fist, jealously protecting his people as a self-styled messiah, while rooting out and destroying all who would oppose him. He runs his kingdom with Hypocricy.
Kirby games are so fun. It’s always the same where you start fighting trees and flowers just for the finale to evolve into dethroning cosmic horror type beings and interstellar gods.
Typical JRPG
In this case, it was the thing.
Fun!
@@gemraldkid6304 The Thing with a decent bit of Giegue (or Giygas, if you prefer) from MOTHER, even.
@@greenhydra10A Paper Mario/Mario & Luigi like RPG for Kirby doesn't actually sound that bad. Many fans love to see how crazy the lore gets with each new game, if the RPG is canon then they can expand it even more than Star Allies did
@@joopvanhedel1372I would kill for a Kirby rpg
16:24 there are singers who can sing like this, it's called whistle pitch/tone, it's of course a skill that needs to be trained for and not just anyone can learn to do it, but it absolutely is humanly possible
It could be a real whistle note, considering the operatic style of singing!
Mariah Carey.
Vitas nails it
The main singer in "Eyes that Gaze in the Nexus" from Bravely Default 2 does it too
And also Celilly in the 40 musicians cover
i recognize that singer from sectonia's final form
The fight is not really scripted, but there are many transitions for the music depending on how fast you're defeating the boss.
The poster just so happened to play the last part twice.
Yeah there's an incredible 14 total transitions
FOURTEEN!
really think about how impressive that is for a second
iirc the loop point for the first phase of the song is the short violin part that you hear around the 9:57 mark, right before the tense build-up with the organ. Once the boss gets down to a certain amount of health, there are 14 possible musical transitions the game can use to smoothly bring you into that build-up section, depending on where you are in the song at the time.
Everything you said about high stakes and scale was on point. The " Roche limit" is basically the point where two planets start to collide and tear each other apart. So the stakes are two whole planets and the scale increases in the second phase when the boss actually summons the second planet to collide with the one you're fighting on.(also please listen to C-R-O-W-N-E-D/ roar of dedede or sword of the surviving guardian)
More accurately, it's the point at which it is no longer possible to avert. The two planets WILL tear each other apart until only one is left. It is simultaneously literal for Dreamland & The Forgotten Land and a metaphor for Kirby & Fecto Elfilis, two opposing catastrophic forces have come into range of one another, now the destruction of one of them is imminent and inevitable.
On a tangental note of "Cool phrases used for this fight" Fecto Elfilis has an attack named "The Fermi Paradox's Answer."
Person: "Why have we never encountered intelligent life out in the infinite universe?"
Fecto Elfilis: "Me."
He may also like tree crown without a ruler...I couldn't remember the full name of the track.
Please, please, someone get this man to listen to the rest of the soundtrack besides the final boss music.
There's so much good Kirby music that is legitimately underrated because people latch onto the final boss themes (which are great, but also tend to overshadow the rest of the soundtrack in popularity).
What songs would you recommend, because I’ve never owned a single Kirby game but after listening to a few of the boss themes like this one i was very surprised by how good the music is 😅
@@Midnight-8262 Literally *any* Kirby music that isn't a final boss theme.
like...
Yearning For Yellow
Sky Tower
Iceberg Ocean (Kirby's Dream Course)
Storming the Halberd
Rainbow Resort
Battle of Blizzard Bridge
Gourmet Race
The Great Cave Offensive
A Trip To Alivel Mall
Toy Rhythm
Happy Mambo (Kirby's Return to Dream Land)
Fly, Kirby!
Factory Inspection
Soda Sea
Dethskulk Jam
Yogurt Yard
Sand Canyon 3
This is just a selection of tracks from the entirety of the Kirby series.
@@TornaitSuperBird Thanks, I’ll check em out
@@Midnight-8262 to throw in some of my own suggestions for non-boss Kirby music:
1) Planet Towara
2) Overload Ocean
3) Quest Board
4) Kirby Fighters 2 main theme
5) The Wastes Where Life Began
6) Sky Tower
7) Floral Fields
8) Mint Leaf
9) A Well-Deserved Rest
10) Crossing into the parallel with you
11) One of the Miracles
12) The Happiest Curtain Call
13) Legend of the Last World
14) Ripple Red
15) Reflected Laughter
16) Admiring the Figure Collection
And there are certainly many more tracks that I myself can't remember off the top of my head. As for game recommendations, if you want the best experience for newcomers then Forgotten Land would be your pick due to its higher accessibility as a 3D game. Return to Dreamland Deluxe is another option that provides the quintessential 2D Kirby experience with lots of additional add on as a remake that make it easy contention for top 3 Kirby titles of all time. Finally, Super Kirby Clash is a free to start boss gauntlet game that still has decent online player activity.
Some additional Info you might find interesting (no Spoilers)
This theme plays for the final fight of the Game.
As you guessed, it is made up of multiple phases.
However, there aren't any scripted sequences while this theme plays.
I think that the version you listened to goes to the second phese theme instead of looping.
There are also multiple transitions between the music for those phases that were included in this version.
The one that is used in game depends in what part of the theme you are at when you damage the boss enough.
Kirby and the forgotten land has a great soundtrack throughout the entire game and I recomend everyone to play it
Funny enough the Boss IS phase based, however it's not at all scripted. Nintendo quite literally recorded multiple points in the music where the player might possibly trigger the next phase so that at multiple points in the song, a smooth transition will happen no matter what and that's those parts where you hear a new instrument being introduced.
Chaos elfilis is probably my favorite boss in any game ever. The music, stage, and fight are all so perfectly executed. I also really love how against it's final phase, normal kirby without powerups is actually really effective
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This game is so underrated, I had more fun playing this than maybe any other switch game. My husband and I played it two player and I have not had such a good couch co-op experience in like a decade.
Fun fact: the Roche Limit is the area around a planet in which a satellite that is inside will be ripped apart by the planet's gravitational pull. This is fitting for the Fecto Elfilis fight because, during the climax of the fight, they try to have Dreamland crash into the Forgotten Land, literally making two planets approach their Roche Limit. The other reason it's fitting is because Fecto Elfilis can be seen as approaching their own "Roche Limit" since they are two beings (Fecto Forgo and Elfilin) being forced to be combined.
You did NOT saw this coming?? Look...
I've heard Crowned, Moonstruck Blossom, Mind in Program, and all the Void Termina music (all final bosses themes from Kirby) and I STILL WASN'T READY FOR THIS! 😂
Typical final boss theme, always being more insane than the previous one
Yeah, I can't believe they keep consistently improving on 10/10 final bosses
I'm glad you're covering this, Kirby music is great.
I love how you called attention to the apparent lack of loop points. The first phase normally does loop at a certain point, but this version track seems to include the transition to Phase 2 rather than the loop. However, if I recall, there are a number of points in which it can transition into the second phase, with unique transitions for each point in the song so that it never sounds too abrupt in-game. I find that interesting, and it would probably take a lot of work to make that happen.
one thing i could be completely wrong about but just a thought
the song sounds angelic and otherworldly, but it also has the standard kirby funkiness you’d expect from a typical battle or just a typical day in a Kirby game
Makes me think of the fact you’re battling elfilis, your ally through the whole game and something you think of as typical kirby, and throw in the strange alien creature that he fused with for this boss to add the angelic, strange undertones and it all feels really intentional to me
something to add is that there’s a phase not included here that’s kinda post-fight, and it’s where dreamland is completely visible and now the music takes a turn and becomes even more dreamland-esque, more familiar, triumphant, and just what’s expected from kirby defending his home again especially since it’s the obvious focus of that part. Also it’s basically the invincibility theme for kirby
Kirby composers always cook way harder than they would realistically need to and we love them for it.
If you look at them from an unbiased eye, Kirby games are actually pretty basic (but very solid and fun, of course) platformers with beat-em-up elements, but just the overall presentation and soundtrack is what make them truly special. They ooze so much charm and passion, it's unbelievable.
8:16 Kirby music is known for its super funky bass lines especially the ones made by Hirokazu Ando. A really good example of this is Blue Blizzard Remix (Area 3) from return to dreamland dx. The bass in that song is incredible.
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Kirby music could singlehandedly solo entire music genres.
If you listen to another Kirby final boss theme, you literally cannot go wrong with any of them. Many are iconic in their own rights amd every single one of them is extremely climactic, because if anyone must know anything before getting into a Kirby game, god slaying is his entire MO. Kirby actively defends the universe by himself and all he's doing is his best, because he wants to make friends. Its great
Kirby and the forgotten land is a great game would definitely recommend it to any who haven't played it.
16:25 That soprano can really sing that high. I was watching MarcoMeatball do a reaction to this. He's, a former pro opera singer and he said that is takes years to sing that high and even then not all sopranos can do it.
One of my favorite Kirby music facts is that two particular composers, Jun Ishikawa and Hirokazu Ando, have been contributing music to the series for over 30 years at this point (Ishikawa since the very first game). This particular track (and most recent final boss tracks) was composed by Ando.
One of the things i looove about this song is how it's all orchestral and epic in a pretty standard final boss kind of way but it's also super jazzy
For those who don't know -- "The Roche Limit" is the point at which the gravity of a celestial body becomes too great for smaller bodies to handle, and they start breaking down while maintaining orbit, creating things like Saturn's rings or the Asteroid Belt. I assume the two planets are Dream Land and the Forgotten Land, getting close enough that they start tearing each other apart... Though you could also interpret it as Elfilis and Kirby themselves, two immensely powerful beings who break down everything around them, and who now must collide, forcing them to break each other over and over until only one remains. From Leongar to Forgo to Elfilis, from Base Form to Copy Ability to Mouthful, the two great celestial bodies will tear themselves and their opponents apart, and the world around them will crumble from the force of their clash. Everything pulverized and destroyed. Everything shattered into space dust and orbiting rings. All must orbit Kirby and Elfilis, all must hold its breath to see who wins. Two "planets" approach the Roche Limit.
Sheesh ando wtf are you doing with your titles
the two planets are elfilin and elfilis
@@voyagerwitch I like that interpretation.
This is one of those songs where every time you wanna say wow, it throws another "wow" moment at you, unbelievable!
It only gets better on repeat listens. Honestly the song is just damn insane (especially the first phase)
No, both parts of this track loop. The long multi measure organ transition into the rock second half is actually the 8 or so different measures, 1 of which would be dynamically used to bridge the 1st phase’s loop with the 2nd phase’s loop, depending on the chord of the music leading into the 2nd phase, of course. The official soundtrack ties them all together in a row at the very end of the first loop for the sake of using every part of the song in the OST, giving this version its own unique extended bridge that you would normally only hear a snippet of in gameplay for the sake of the pacing of the battle
Also, whistle pitch does exist and real singers can sing like that, but this is seemingly not a real singer (I don’t know this part, it just sounds as such considering everything else is synthesized), even if the technique can be replicated
Fun fact: one of the attacks this boss can perform is called the Fermi Paradox Answer
The Fermi paradox is the question of if there is life in the universe, why haven't we encountered it yet?
The suggestion is that this creature is why.
I love this franchisem
What attack in specific is even called that? Is the name of it I the games files or something?
@@azellumius8835 I believe the game files.
It's specifically the attack where he rips open multiple portals and throws a bunch of meteors at you
@concordiaharmony2302 aaaah... that does make a lot of sense. That attack does use multiple different models, so i do question what specific one has that name, but it might be a combination of everything, I remember other bosses having interestingly named objects
TPATRL! Probably one of my favorite songs ever, with some great covers. Totally recommend listening to Juno Songs' version of this with lyrics if you end up watching a playthrough or playing the game, but the whole song itself is a masterpiece on its own that deserves to be appreciated.
I am very normal about this song and the accompanying boss.
Juno Songs’ covers of Kirby songs are actually incredible, I second listening to their cover of this as well
This is probably one of my favorite final boss themes. It captures so many feelings at the same time somehow in a really cool way
I love Kirby music so much, glad to see you analyzing this one after the stream.
I absolutely love Kirby games and there final boss themes. They are just so incredible and encapsulates the entire journey and how far you have come so perfectly. Some of my favorite songs of all time are honestly from Kirby and my favorite track from the entire series has got to be Two Planets Approaches The Roch Limit.
The meaning of the song changes when your fighting Chaos Elfilis (the secret final boss)
There are two final bosses.. 3 counting morpho knight
Both version of the fight with Elfilis have multiple phases
Fecto Elfilis has its base form then a desperation form
Chaos Elfilis is similar but has 3 phases instead of 2 becomes it becomes a core similar to void termina
0:39 thank God, i was really hoping for you to actually just take that part of the stream and edit it into a video, but i'm glad you just made a whole video about this instead❤❤❤❤❤
He needs to hear more Kirby final bosses music or normal Kirby music
So glad you are analyzing Kirby Music ! There are so much other amazing musics in Kirby to listen to, like CROWNED
The music starts by slowly introducing the stage. Then the main music piece kicks in with the boss title card. This is his stage, he is the doom of the forgotten lands, and we are nothing. The underlying melody, burried here nearly completely. The Melody breaks through for only a moment, Kirby's melody, and then it is immediately burried by even more rhythmic aggression.
This song does have essentially 3 phases, but the version in the in-game sound test seamlessly transitions between them. The point when you noticed the strong shift is when the final phase starts. It's honestly incredible they were able to make it sound that clean and continuous, it makes me wish the song had a proper ending instead of just looping that final phase.
I don't really hear what you mean about the lack of melody around ~6:45, but that could be because my ears are so trained to hear it after playing the game - Kirby games have had several recurring leitmotifs, but Forgotten Land in particular remixes its main theme into a TON of its tracks, and Two Planets Approach the Roche Limit is no exception! The song doesn't need to spend much time establishing the melody because the player would have heard it countless times on the way to reaching the point where it plays.
As others have said, you're listening to the sound test version which is different from how the song actually plays during the fight proper. The way the latter works is even more layers of genius because they have to account for the fact that the fight isn't on rails. And they do so successfully!
Such a good track. Kirby keeps topping itself.
Babe wake up, Davi's covering Kirby music! Ironically enough, I was thinking about this theme randomly this morning so I'm taking that as a prophecy from our lord and saviour Void. In all seriousness I highly recommend modern Kirby music, especially the final boss themes, but all tracks from all the games have been absolutely fire. Two Planets Approach the Roche Limit is such a metal name for a fight against an angry space squirrel who went mad listening to the same voice lines over and over and now wants to smash the Forgotten Land and Dreamland together to make a smoothie (I might be oversimplifying just a little bit). This melancholy theme against a sunsetting backdrop that transitions to triumphant horns as Elfilis throws meteors in your direction is so surreal and shows the wonderful talent on display over at Hal in the music department. My favourite little detail is that the transition piece towards phase 2 (see 10:02) is actually one of a number of small musical segments designed to transition the Phase 1 theme based on where it is in the song all leading to the organs (see 10:13 and 11:44) that transition to Phase 2. The fact that they even bothered when they could have just abruptly moved to the new phase theme like standard is just one of the many reasons I adore the Kirby composers, cannot recommend the soundtracks enough!
I have to also recommend the Drawcia Sorceress and Drawcia Ball themes, for the two stages of the final boss in Kirby Canvas Curse. If I didn't know better I'd think it was Castlevania
Everything you said about the chords is really interesting...
I write music on my off-time sometimes, so studying up on these chords and how I might be able to put them together could be pretty fun!
I would love if you did a video on Northeast Frost Street from this same game. One of my favourite video game songs ever
Let's go! I asked for this when it first came out lmao. So glad to see you start to cover Kirby
The other comment. Not much to say. I finally progressing in Twilight Princess and I really enjoying the music, looking forward to progress in the game further. Live is good, I can't complain. AND the best moment of the week by far: Yesterday (Thursday) they uploaded to RUclips a video of when an orchestra a few weeks ago performed some of the songs from Blasphemous 1 and 2. IT'S INCREDIBLE AND IT MAKES ME SOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY. They aren't probably 'the best' songs from the games, but the feeling of seeing an orchestra perform music from a game that I love and that deserves it so much is awesome. Well, that's all.¡Adíos Davi, and again, enjoy the trip!
I was blown away by it, too! What an amazing track!
It's funny how davi asks what is happening in the game while this plays, when the title quite literaly says it (as unbelievable as it is). Two planets approach the roche limit, a real life limit which denotes the distance to planets have to be from each other to attract each other with their gravitational forces.
Now that it's spelled out this game's ending is absoloutely insane (as all kirby games' are and very well should be)
Actually, no. The Roche limit is the point at which the force of gravity between two celestial bodies is so large, that they are torn apart, destroying each other without ever making contact. The pieces of Popstar you drive through in the final sequence are the result of this, as well as the buildings that are floating in the sky.
The funnier part is that the title doesn't properly happen until after this song is over and something else is placing.
Finally!!! The theme that I sujest so many time ago!!!
Great suggestion, I love this song 😁
youre one of my favorite musicians to watch, i learn a lot from your simple explanations as music is just my side hobby. But i cant believe you still havent checked Bury the Light yet
Fun fact: This track has 14 different transitions that can play between phase 1 and phase 2.
Anyone else hear astral birth void in this music?
Thay motif has become kirby's serious mode theme lol
If you want to do more Kirby songs please do the final boss theme "True Destroyer of Worlds / Astral Birth - Void" from Kirby Star Allies!!
DUDE I totally caught that windwaker violin but I didn't know what it was making me think of LMAO. I used to play that on the WII when I was like 8. Good times.
Please do primal dialga theme is such incridible song of epicness
I just beat this boss two days ago (I cheesed with dragon fire's dot) and I've just realised this song sounds like it's from final fantasy.
There is a loop point for the first phase, and then there’s a transition. However, what’s so interesting about the transition is that it’s only a couple of measures, and that there are multiple leadup measures into the actual transition from any melodical point from Phase 1. Then there’s the Phase 2 Loop.
What I find interesting is that the composer went out of their way to create multiple melodical ways to end up in the same transitional phrase from the Phase 1 loop.
KATFL has some of the best tracks in the series fr. It's full of absolute bangers, and this is just one of them.
explanation for the roche (pronounced rowsh) limit.
if two objects are orbiting each other, there is a distance that is too close of either one or both to keep their shape due to the gravity involved. the Roche limit is the point at which the gravity starts to tear one of the objects apart.
in the context of this game, this boss battle is taking place as the planet kirby is on, is approaching the Roche limit of popstar (Kirby's home planet). this is happening because to the boss you are fighting, and will stop when you defeat them, so the steaks are very high.
PLEASE consider listening to the battle theme for Zero 2 from Kirby 64
Probably the prettiest action game boss with the greatest variety of attacks.
8:00 yeah, Hirokazu Ando (the composer of the theme) likes to lean into jazzy improvisational passages (usually piano) when he's not busy filling a track to the brim with motifs. In this case, it's from "The Battle of Blizzard Bridge" (or so I think). Even if you don't make a video on it, I highly recommend listening to it for some context.
PS: do you use the terms "happy chord" and "sad chord" as simplifications for those less versed, or are those the definitions you're more familiar with?
You should react to the GRIME ost, its super underrated imo. Specifically, Surrogate Vulture, Carven Palace, the Final Performance, or Cenotaph City
plzzz do C-R-O-W-N-E-D from kirby's return to dreamland!!
There’s a reason meta knight’s theme in this game won a Grammy, these composers are geniuses
It was a cover of Meta Knight’s Revenge that won the Grammy. This game’s Meta Knight theme is based on My Friend and the Setting Sun. Still a banger track, though.
Hello, I'm new to your channel, I absolutely love your reactions! Is there a way to suggest some video games ost to you?
I love seeing peoples reactions to kirby ost and lore!
IDK if you did any music from Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, but We Believe in You, Mario is a great one.
I don't know if you've done it, but just to keep with the Kirby theme maybe you could do Star Traveling Conqueror The Full Five Suite just for wildness of that full track?
Finally ! The end of the game with an awesome final boss ! Or wait...is this really the end of the game ?
Spoiler ahead:
Great fake-out final boss, classic Kirby game moment.
To be fair, the "real" final boss is both flavorfully the same guy and has the same theme except for the bridge (which doesn't play the way it does in this version anyway)
@@HeraldOfOperaI think they were talking about Leon as the final boss which is deliberately kinda underwhelming and definitely a bit different of an atmosphere from the actual final boss
I would recommend reacting to some things from the game named 'Cloudbuilt'
Namely 'Aerial Walkways', 'Sinister Gale' and 'Solar Eclipse' in comparison to 'Spiritwalker' on the track.
I'd like to see the breakdown of that.
If you like this, you should have a listen to the overal vibe of the Pikmin 4 OST and then react to the Pikmin 4 final boss, the Ancient SireHound. Or just the optional boss Groovy Long Legs whose theme is baked into the game and not just a piece of music laid on top of the gameplay. They clash with what you'd usually associate with Pikmin and yet and it works so, so well when you've been following the story and in the case of the final boss especially, as the theme fits the character you're fighting more than the actual creature. Have a listen and you'll see what I mean, just know that the direction is a first for the Pikmin series.
you should check out some of the soundtracks from Sky COTL! its my favorite game, the music really likes to use their themes, and the tracks i recommend would be Flight, Waltzing in the Rain, and An Upwards Dance.
Love your work David, keep it up! I would love to hear your input on Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 - Une vie à peindre. I know this song is right up your alley! Its been stuck in my head since the XBOX showcase !
Daviiiiiiiiiiiiiii! This time I will leave another comment since we won't have stream in a while. Suggestion: Lágrimas de Grana y Oro fro Blasphemous 1. Video: Yeah, I was waiting the video! I haven't played any Kirby game, but from the tracks that people suggest in the live streams I knew I will really enjoy it jajajaja. Oh man, an incredible track. I remember the vocals cause the reminded me of The Diva Dance, realistic but impossible.
That's it for the video. ¡Adiós Davi, enjoy Japan!
another nice Kirby Boss Theme in my opinion is "Moonstruck Blossom" :)
Good news!
I requested Moonstruck Blossom on his stream (at May 18th 2024), and he reacted to it :)
@@icoriha alright, thanks. I can look right into it
I'm only noticing it now, but this track reminds me of botw/totk's soundtrack. I lack the music vocabulary to describe the specific similarity I'm noticing, but... you guys hear it too, right?
All Kirby music is so amazing and epic! If you want a recommendation for one of the best songs in all of Kirby, listen to the star conquering traveler full suite. It’s even better than fecto elfilis’s theme imo
You absolutely right this boss has three phases a phase one, a half phase, and phase 2
If you listen to more Kirby music, please do Roar of Dedede or Sword of the Surviving Guardian
Best Kirby Final Boss track imo
"I'm pretty sure real women don't do that" has to be one of my favorite quotes from this channel, that made me laugh so hard x)
Kirby has some of the best boss music in all of video games. You should listen to Mind in a Program from Kirby: Planet Robobot.
Also So dark souls 3 has the slave knight gael theme and it has 3 parts to it its very menacing and a good song you should check it out
This is a very nice Theme.
I wonder what we’ll get next?
So uh, I would like to recommend a song that sounds very good, and I highly recommend. It's called i am pretty sure "Prince Mush Battle theme" from Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door Remake, Idk the Official name for the song but it slaps really hard.
I am using a translator so my English may be wrong.
I always enjoy watching your sharp thoughts and commentary on various game music!
Is it possible to request music to be handled by this channel? If so, how do I make a request?
There is some game music that I would like you to listen to.
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@@DaviVasc
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私がリクエストしたい曲は、「Lies of P」というゲームの
・King of Puppets (Battle Intro)
・Stage of Grief
・King of Puppets (Phase Change)
・Shattered Memories
の4(2)曲です、これらはゲーム内のあるボスのテーマで、前半の曲と後半の曲とでは、同じキャラを表す曲であるにもかかわらず、かなり曲の印象が異なるのが興味深いです！
もし、リクエストが多すぎるようであれば、King of Puppets の2つは除外しても構いません。
よろしくお願いします！
If you do Kirby again, i highly recommend CROWNED
I don't really know if the themes are created to mean something tied to the game or if it sounds cool to sound cool, but I'd love to see you react to Sea of Stars ost which I think is really great
you should look up A Full-Speed Farewell from the New World from the game
Would love to see you take look at Cyberpunk 2077 and Phantom Liberty music. Absolute bangers there!
Kirbo!!!
5:00 I believe that is an erhu, not a violin, they sound similar, but distinctly different
Speaking of kirby tracks, might I recommend Galacta Knight? Super Star Ultra's rendition is my favourite but they're all good
i would have preferred Roar of Dedede, but this is amazing, too
Fun fact (SPOILERS: BEAT THE MAIN STORY FIRST PLEASE)
One of the final boss’s attacks is called “The Fermi Paradox’s answer.” The Fermi paradox says that if space is so big why do we not see any aliens? Here’s the game answer.. Fecto Elfilis killed them all.
Oh wow I didn't know that their moves had names. Thanks for the fun fact.
Please listen to more kirby music, its too underated. (and possibly try void terminas theme)
This man should listen to OVERLORD or Moonstruck Blossom. For Overlord he should listen the RTDX's 2nd phase for the cries of help
Also that voice is from sampletank
He had reacted to Moonstruck Blossom on his stream (at May 18th 2024) already.
@@icoriha where
@@TheMagolorThatComposes1231
on RUclips Live
Take#2: Hello Davi! I am here to suggest that you should do League of Legends music themes at some point, the one that I highly suggest is God King Darius Login screen Theme. Here's just a little run down of that Skin's lore.
"God-King Darius is a bringer of true carnage-the descendant of primordial deities long forgotten in the shadow of Demacia. Slaughtering monarchs and gods alike, he seeks to end the false world of unity and peace, ushering in an age of endless war where only the strongest will survive."
A quick run down from of my own opinion, honestly, he knows that peace is an option, but, the way people get treated even under someones rulership don't get treated the right way. For example, his opposite, God King Garen, He rules the vast kingdom of Demacia with an iron fist, jealously protecting his people as a self-styled messiah, while rooting out and destroying all who would oppose him. He runs his kingdom with Hypocricy.
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