Zurassh Yeah, his voice is amazing and he's got a great way with words. I don't really like audio books but I just might listen to The Selfish Gene. Several hours of Richard Dawkins talking about smart stuff in well worded sentences. :)
It's so awesome to see my animations in one of your videos, Derek! It was an amazing experience to work with you, and I'm looking forward to future projects!
The amount of respect I have for Richard Dawkins is through the roof. I think he's a genius, a philosopher and a role model. This interview has done nothing but confirm my thoughts. Thank You Veritasium.
I work at a harbor and saw this pirate behaviour for the first time in my life yesterday, a seagull following a smaller bird in the sky that had a fish in its beak, i was just staring at the chase for 3 mins before they went out of my sight. I really hope the smaller bird won.
JensBond93 It reminds me of bully behavior. The bigger one taking advantage of it's size in order to profit in some way. In the case of the bully, I'm assuming it is personal pleasure through depreciation (unlike people believe, bullies don't do what they do out of lack of self-esteem, but out of opportunity). I wonder if it has any relation.
JensBond93 I once saw a bald eagle steal a fish from a flock of seagulls. It was pretty impressive to watch but your comment makes me wonder if this sort of behavior is more common in scavenger animals rather than animals that strictly hunt.
JensBond93 I live in Bergen, Norway, and like to go reading to the city park. The park is full of seagulls and there is always at least one pirate hanging around. :-)
I was just a few days ago reading Richard Dawkin's book 'The Extended Phenotype' in which he goes to great length explaining Evolutionary Stable Strategies (or ESS in short). It can be called a sequel to 'The Selfish Gene' and I would recommend it to anyone interested in evolution.
Sooo, you just interviewed Richard Dawkins!! I am both equally thrilled and filled with hope that this happened. Congratulations on meeting such an advanced intellectual mind. Wow!
Veritassium is really one of best youtuve channels. It stands besides Nerdologia, another Science channel. The Veritassium is the unique one that check weekly. I learn a lot with you. Thanks Veritassium!
1:38 Can someone explain why a single mutant pirate would cause a fully functioning society of fishers to not be evolutionary stable? I feel that while he expressed the flip side well in explanation ["In a few generations, now, everybodys a pirate, and there's no fish" 1:24], he did not express why this small mutation would break stability.
Because the cost is lower to steal a fish than to get one yourself, so pirates do better if the majority are fishing, hence they become more prevalent in the population.
Veritasium Thank you greatly for your response, as I am still internalizing what you replied, I feel at this point in time I understand your clarification. I would just like to confirm that this example of Pirates is not a lifestyle choice that is encouraged, rather a dominate trait that will create the creature. If this is not the case than perhaps I could use further clarification.
Veritasium I think he meant to ask how one mutant individual can cause this break of stability, and the answer would be that the mutant would pass his genes on to the next generation since he was doing so good and after many generations the fishers will go extinct
Soto4liife Thank you for your attempt to clarify my response. I would like to say that perhaps I did mean this in a sense, but was more requesting the follow through on his line of reasoning. The answer you have given, through the lens of the question I asked, is something I have considered if you look at my first reply to our fellow comentor. Yes, I understand what you are saying, and very much appreciate its contribution to the understanding of this video, however I did not mean this question.
Your PBS special, Uranium: Twisting the Dragon's Tail, was truely amazing!!! Very fun and cool; keep up the amazing work! That is now my favorite television series, even though it is a two part special! :D
For all of the comments about evolution and the definition of theory, let me explain: Fact: Verifiably accurate data. Law: Statement which is always true under specific circumstances Hypothesis: Testable, potentially falsifiable explanation of facts and laws Theory: Unifying framework explaining all of the above. A theory is better than a fact or a law. Get over it. A theory in science is not the same as a theory on your favorite TV show.
Midget Head Why isn't this common knowledge?! How come we haven't made sure every middle school student understands this?! Every aspect of modern civilization is a product of the scientific method. Our future depends on everyone having at least a basic understanding of science.
Eric14492 Because the are several different definitions of the word theory. Richard explains this in "The Greatest Show on Earth" where he explains that there are two contradicting definitions of theory, sense one being synonymous with hypothesis and sense two being synonymous with a fact.
MelBrooksKA That is not an excuse. There are many other homonyms in the English language. You should know the difference between the rose, a flower, and rose, standing up, by kindergarten. In any discussion relating to science, it should be obvious we are talking about a scientific theory.
MelBrooksKA I didn't think that you were confused about the definition. I was rejecting your argument that there is a reasonable excuse for half of Americans not understanding that a word can have two different definitions. I am sorry if it came across as a personal attack, I did not mean it that way.
It's not just our support that made this happen but also your hardwork. You've been making some of the best scientific based videos we have ever seen and have done a great job at making science fun, interesting and engaging.
Just another way to see that quantifying ecolution and writing down the differential equations is crutial to understanding. And congrats for the interview. Dawkins has a lovely voice.
Eugene Khutoryansky It's the same strategy that all social mammals use: adapt to the environment, adapt the environment to suit yourself and your breeding partners. . . Then breed like crazy. How is that unstable, exactly?
***** Because we believe we are the prime, that's how. We have devised our hierarchy, not the universe. Everything we do is a group effort, but we still think us to be some how separate with our enviroment. This is Dawkins quandary of relation. He views things with separation and think life interacts differently depending on what we have perceived to be alive. I do not like to subscribe to this style of thinking, it is very egocentric.
Richard Dawkins talks about evolutionarily stable strategies in the selfish gene, this was a massive eye opener for me, it made me look at human behaviour with such a different perspective, it allows you to not take things personal and see it as nature. you really can stand back and observe.
That's probably a reference to the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything as according to Douglas Adams in the Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy... Or maybe your right and he's blazin We shall never know.....
could we apply the hypothetical of fishers (a group that WORKS for their food) and pirates (a group that STEALS the food of others) to the wealth gap and economic inequality?
lukassnakeman I don't see why not. The pirates in that case, let's call them the 1% ;), are unstable if they steal too much, let's say 90% of society's wealth, while the fishers either die of starvation and/or desease or are forced to become pirates themselves through either sheer luck to be in the right place at the right time to become a 1%er somehow or a criminal common pirate.
lukassnakeman In short: yes. Evolutionary stable strategies are an application of Game Theory on evolutionary biology. Some economists apply Game Theory in the same way evolutionary biologists do, but self-evidently use Game Theory to answer different questions. There is some difficulty in acquiring parameters to formulate mathematical equations though.
lukassnakeman It's more complex than that. If you were to translate that into the language of game theory, it would imply that society is moving towards some "evolutionarily stable" nash equlibrium where everyone is behaving as well as they can. Under this condition, a "fisher" (working class person) would not be any better off being a "pirate" (assuming you're referring to the upper class/1%/bourgeoisie), which I think we can agree does not describe society particularly well. If you assume that we're not at the point, but the economic system still works off of the model you describe, we'd actually expect to see a decrease in inequality over time as the system tends toward a stable point where nobody is better off if they find themselves in a different group. There is are much more complex dynamics that push the wealth gap, and I don't think this model plays into it at all. If you're interested in it, game theory does play into the way people make choices about how they will educate themselves and invest in skills, how businesses big and small choose when to invest and open up new stores, and many other aspects of society and the economy.
Landon Wood Just like children are pirates and parents are fishers. I remember being seven years old, bedridden with mumps, pirating the chicken soup that my fisher mother had worked to make, stealing the food from her very mouth. Same way, the elderly and veterans are former fishers who've turned to a life of easy piracy. It's all so complicated, isn't it? I can see why you're confused.
If you want to know about evolutionary stability, the all time expert is the late Stephen J. Gould. Punctuated Equalibrium. Dawkins in this episode seems to be forgetting the role that isolated populations play in evolution and the interbreeding of semi-isolated groups.
Mister Captain What is the problem with that? Those are people that are all very influential. Sure, he could dream to meet some very obscure mathmatician that came up with something that most people have no idea about, but this is obviously not the case.
Mister Captain higher view count on his videos bro = more ad money and future expansion on a side note I don't see anyone interviewing Leonard Suskind even tho his work has contributed more to physics than all these pop science people combined.
Veritasium I understand evolution and how it works. I wish experts and science communicators would stop using terms that imply that individuals within evolution have a choice in traits or genetics, beyond the choice of mate. I think it gives the impression that evolution is directed by choice rather than environment or biology. Cool channel though.
fla playa Because the reply was directed at the creator of this video. I am aware he has no control over what Dawkins was saying, but he put this video out with sloppy terminology. As a science communicator his job is to inform viewers in a clear and accurate way, not just regurgitate information.
Maxx B That's a really great point. There are much worse science channels on RUclips though. VSauce 2, That guy butchers everything. It's a tough world. I dare you to attempt making a video better explaining the principles you speak of. I think Derek almost does as good as Carl Sagan or David Suzuki. Glad he does what he does in this dumbed down modern world:)
I just watched Uranium Twisting The Dragons Tail last night. I wish there were more episodes although I'm not sure how many episodes you could make entertaining for common viewers, but I personally find Uranium fascinating, I could listen to you talk for hours though.
I'm sorry to congradict, but its you, your contend and your style, what gives you the opportunity to meet these three guys and fulfill your dream. So you fulfilled it yourself. Take my gratulations.
Can you subtitle your videos, please? For me, it would be easier to understand what you're saying, because I can't understand you speaking english (maybe in the future), but I can read english.
@@rodrigoappendino Agreed. I've done one video with subtitles, and I used the auto subtitles as the basis: by the end I realized it would have been faster just to write my own from scratch instead of using the auto titles!
no behaviour is not written in our DNA, it is learned through experience in life-history events (juvenile/adult) that can be passed down through generations.And like he said in the beginning, it's a choice that best suits the individual that will determine its behaviour. So I think he was just using the terme "gene" to distinguish two different species
That's not true Kirrek, behaviours are determined by some extension of our genes. As Cesar Gonzalez says, in reality all traits in an organism have a genetic component. For example, consider the behavioural type described here - "pirate". Being a pirate might be determined by a single gene, a combination of genes, a combination of genetics and early life environment (say, parental care provided in the nest), it could also be plastic (that is to say, an individual can change it's behaviour depending on the conditions it is currently experiencing), or any logical combination of the above. Whatever the scenario however, there will always be an underlining genetics which plays a role in determining the trait expressed. Evolution acts on the base unit of selection: the gene. By suggesting behaviour isn't resultant from our DNA you're describing a world where all animals would cease to function and survive in the absence of considerable parental care - that's clearly not the reality of the world we live in. I hope that was clear.
Can you please provide an example? Most vertebrates demonstrate highly complex behaviours where it is practically impossible for current science to disentangle the genetic mechanisms. However, that doesn't mean these behaviours aren't based in an underlying genetics. Since all organisms are fundamentally an expression of their genes it's inevitable that ones behaviour has a genetic basis.
Shawn Ravenfire There may be two cases. First - if such bird can properly define whether to act as fisher or pirate. So it would outcompete those who were strict fishers or pirates (or made this choice randomly). So we have evolution of intelligence. And second - if being pirate requires different physiological adaptations rather than being fisher so those who combine both behaviors would lose to strict specialists. Hence biodiversity arises. In nature both cases take place, so we have both intelligence and diversity among living things.
Shawn Ravenfire The topic here was simplified. In practice, the same individual may be capable of both sorts of behavior, with different proportions. So when we say that 20% of the population are pirates, and 80% are fishermen, what we actually mean is that 20% of the food-seeking behavior in the population is pirate-like, whereas 80% is fisherman-like. It could be that some individuals behave like pirates 60% of the time, and like fishermen 40% of the time, or some other proportion, but what matters is the overall percentage for each behavior in the whole population. You should read Dawkins' book "The Selfish Gene" for more details.
Whats witht he music, looks like you're trying to make Dawkins look like a clown. I know you didn't do it on purpose but seriously the music was terrible.
just watched your first uranium documentary, greatly done, i loved that you used the word fantastical, and your dragon animation was adorable! although i knew all the science you went through, i want that picture of you when you first went into the bath as my screensaver :)
just feel the urge to say "thank you for this video" because i'll have to do a presentation on this topic soon and was looking for a good example. This is easy to understand and well explained, so thanks a lot for the help!
Thanks for making this video, consciousness raising is the exactly perfect phrase to describe The Selfish Gene. I remember reading the second edition when it first came out, and it change my entire view of life.
I believe the best choice is YOUR choice. By choosing what the majority of them do, your essentially choosing their choice. And by doing what YOU think is best for you, your more likely to end up better than doing what others do.
I've been a subscriber for a while, and have always like you, but now? I'M IN LOVE! The selfish gene is one of my favourite books! Thanks for this video,Derek! As a biologist Richard Dawkins have always been one of my idols!😺😺😺😺😺😺😺😺
So glad to see the concept of ESS being explained here. The Selfish Gene is also my favourite book and particularly that 30th anniversary edition :) Thumbs up!
Dr. Muller, great work with the Uranium documentary. I've only had the chance to watch part one, but part 2 is waiting on my DVR and I'm very much looking forward to it. Congrats on all of your success and keep up the great work. I look forward to one day being stopped on the street by you and having my scientific knowledge tested!
Now I know why I like this channel so much. We have those guys in common. Neil Tyson, Richard Dawkins and Bill Nye are some of my heroes. =) Thanks for sharing this awesome content!
thats the thing that made me love richie dawkins in the first place, his evolutionary conjecture, the teaching of said evolutionary mechanism, well explained genomics, thats what made me study biology in college a while back as well, too bad he no longer teaches that through his amazing writing skills, he rather use his knowledge of biology to debate other people, in a way, a shame, but well, i don't ignore the importance of fighting some ignorance here and there, when the time is right.
This is a great example. I seem to recall reading about this in "The Selfish Gene," except it involved birds picking impossible to reach insects off other birds.
Two Comments: First, The documentary on Uranium was fantastic, it started some really good discussions and provoked more than a few deep thoughts in my family. It would have been nice to hear more about some more technical subjects. Maybe something you can make videos on? For example I'd love to hear your explanation on critical mass. Something not covered in the documentary. Second, I really want to recommend The Selfish Gene to other people. It's a fantastic book, also very thought provoking, that will keep you fixated for hours. Definitely, if you're interested in evolution type science subjects, pick it up (whether from Audible or your library etc.).
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I can listen to Richard Dawkins speak all day.
Zurassh You might have to.
Zurassh I'm like that with Neil Degrasse Tyson... Mans got that scientific swagger.
Alex Azazel I can see how one could draw that conclusion.
Zurassh So long as he sticks to his subject. I don't care much for his sophomoric rants about religion.
Zurassh Yeah, his voice is amazing and he's got a great way with words. I don't really like audio books but I just might listen to The Selfish Gene. Several hours of Richard Dawkins talking about smart stuff in well worded sentences. :)
It's so awesome to see my animations in one of your videos, Derek! It was an amazing experience to work with you, and I'm looking forward to future projects!
I was wondering why some of the birds would be pirates, and then I realised that they just aaaaaarrrrrrr.
The amount of respect I have for Richard Dawkins is through the roof. I think he's a genius, a philosopher and a role model. This interview has done nothing but confirm my thoughts. Thank You Veritasium.
"Natural Selection favors piracy" Ok cool **downloads everything**
I work at a harbor and saw this pirate behaviour for the first time in my life yesterday, a seagull following a smaller bird in the sky that had a fish in its beak, i was just staring at the chase for 3 mins before they went out of my sight. I really hope the smaller bird won.
JensBond93 It reminds me of bully behavior. The bigger one taking advantage of it's size in order to profit in some way. In the case of the bully, I'm assuming it is personal pleasure through depreciation (unlike people believe, bullies don't do what they do out of lack of self-esteem, but out of opportunity).
I wonder if it has any relation.
JensBond93 I once saw a bald eagle steal a fish from a flock of seagulls. It was pretty impressive to watch but your comment makes me wonder if this sort of behavior is more common in scavenger animals rather than animals that strictly hunt.
Paul Donlin I live in Maine and have seen the opposite...I watched an eagle catch a fish and a bunch of gulls chase it...Nature is special
JensBond93 If the smaller bird wasn't the same species, it's not pirate behavior anymore.
JensBond93 I live in Bergen, Norway, and like to go reading to the city park. The park is full of seagulls and there is always at least one pirate hanging around. :-)
That was the entire interview?
David S. probably some was cut out
Where's the beef?
I imagine he'll dish it out over many episodes. Gotta use such an interview correctly.
I was so confused why my comment was already on this video, first time I see another one with the Cats Eye Nebula as a profile picture.
Ha! You just tricked me too. For a second, I thought I was hacked. You even display your name the same way I do. Weird...
I watched Uranium - Twisting the Dragons tail! It was really good. Great job Derek!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
Veritasium Is it by any chance showing in the UK?
Is it on netflix??
NiteHood Yeah I just watched part 1. Really amazing science history!
What's the link for UK viewing? If anyone has it could you post it here please
I was just a few days ago reading Richard Dawkin's book 'The Extended Phenotype' in which he goes to great length explaining Evolutionary Stable Strategies (or ESS in short). It can be called a sequel to 'The Selfish Gene' and I would recommend it to anyone interested in evolution.
Dawkins is my favorite still living biologist! His books have blown my mind, and changed my perspective on life.
Sooo, you just interviewed Richard Dawkins!! I am both equally thrilled and filled with hope that this happened. Congratulations on meeting such an advanced intellectual mind. Wow!
Veritassium is really one of best youtuve channels. It stands besides Nerdologia, another Science channel. The Veritassium is the unique one that check weekly. I learn a lot with you. Thanks Veritassium!
1:38
Can someone explain why a single mutant pirate would cause a fully functioning society of fishers to not be evolutionary stable? I feel that while he expressed the flip side well in explanation ["In a few generations, now, everybodys a pirate, and there's no fish" 1:24], he did not express why this small mutation would break stability.
Because the cost is lower to steal a fish than to get one yourself, so pirates do better if the majority are fishing, hence they become more prevalent in the population.
Veritasium
Thank you greatly for your response, as I am still internalizing what you replied, I feel at this point in time I understand your clarification.
I would just like to confirm that this example of Pirates is not a lifestyle choice that is encouraged, rather a dominate trait that will create the creature. If this is not the case than perhaps I could use further clarification.
Veritasium I think he meant to ask how one mutant individual can cause this break of stability, and the answer would be that the mutant would pass his genes on to the next generation since he was doing so good and after many generations the fishers will go extinct
Soto4liife
Thank you for your attempt to clarify my response. I would like to say that perhaps I did mean this in a sense, but was more requesting the follow through on his line of reasoning. The answer you have given, through the lens of the question I asked, is something I have considered if you look at my first reply to our fellow comentor. Yes, I understand what you are saying, and very much appreciate its contribution to the understanding of this video, however I did not mean this question.
Noivern It may be due to bad editing. This is a complex topic, I am sure one which could not be covered adequately in a section of a 3 minute video.
Your PBS special, Uranium: Twisting the Dragon's Tail, was truely amazing!!! Very fun and cool; keep up the amazing work! That is now my favorite television series, even though it is a two part special! :D
For all of the comments about evolution and the definition of theory, let me explain:
Fact: Verifiably accurate data.
Law: Statement which is always true under specific circumstances
Hypothesis: Testable, potentially falsifiable explanation of facts and laws
Theory: Unifying framework explaining all of the above.
A theory is better than a fact or a law. Get over it. A theory in science is not the same as a theory on your favorite TV show.
Midget Head Why isn't this common knowledge?! How come we haven't made sure every middle school student understands this?! Every aspect of modern civilization is a product of the scientific method. Our future depends on everyone having at least a basic understanding of science.
Eric14492 Because the are several different definitions of the word theory. Richard explains this in "The Greatest Show on Earth" where he explains that there are two contradicting definitions of theory, sense one being synonymous with hypothesis and sense two being synonymous with a fact.
Midget Head And then there's the predicate logic kind. I hate the predicate logic kind.
MelBrooksKA That is not an excuse. There are many other homonyms in the English language. You should know the difference between the rose, a flower, and rose, standing up, by kindergarten. In any discussion relating to science, it should be obvious we are talking about a scientific theory.
MelBrooksKA I didn't think that you were confused about the definition. I was rejecting your argument that there is a reasonable excuse for half of Americans not understanding that a word can have two different definitions.
I am sorry if it came across as a personal attack, I did not mean it that way.
I think you hard work made it possible - and I am very happy to consume the hard work you have invested in my leisure time.
Well this was a pleasant surprise!
It's not just our support that made this happen but also your hardwork. You've been making some of the best scientific based videos we have ever seen and have done a great job at making science fun, interesting and engaging.
You are a hero for me. Heep going Derek. I love your works. Love
Gian Filippo Le Altezze Um... Thanks?
Derek Hilgefort ha
Derek Hilgefort ha
Derek Hilgefort ya keep up the great work derek
Just another way to see that quantifying ecolution and writing down the differential equations is crutial to understanding. And congrats for the interview. Dawkins has a lovely voice.
"Gene for being a pirate" - mainstream figure head of biology. I just spit out my drink that was so funny.
Who knew even Dawkins could be enjoyable to listen to. Well done Derek!
1:00 you ain't slick Cosmo an Wanda
TheFischin reddit.com/r/cosmoandwanda
It's awesome you're getting to meet your intellectual idols Derek. I hope your success continues, because you absolutely deserve it.
We humans presently have the most unstable strategy possible.
we’re also the most adaptive species on the planet
Eugene Khutoryansky It's the same strategy that all social mammals use: adapt to the environment, adapt the environment to suit yourself and your breeding partners. . .
Then breed like crazy. How is that unstable, exactly?
I'm subscribe to your channel Eugene. I love your videos. Especially the one on special relatively.
Eugene Khutoryansky What do you mean "we humans"? You're a dog!
***** Because we believe we are the prime, that's how. We have devised our hierarchy, not the universe. Everything we do is a group effort, but we still think us to be some how separate with our enviroment. This is Dawkins quandary of relation. He views things with separation and think life interacts differently depending on what we have perceived to be alive. I do not like to subscribe to this style of thinking, it is very egocentric.
Richard Dawkins talks about evolutionarily stable strategies in the selfish gene, this was a massive eye opener for me, it made me look at human behaviour with such a different perspective, it allows you to not take things personal and see it as nature. you really can stand back and observe.
I looove Richard Dawkins, no homo
Matija Zaoborni Mrs. Garrison?
Indeed
Ramon Zarat Kim Davis does
Congratulations, we're all extremely excited and happy for you here!!!!
the Ve sign at the end has
42.0 at the end...
You secretly blazin' it? :D
That's probably a reference to the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything as according to Douglas Adams in the Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy...
Or maybe your right and he's blazin
We shall never know.....
Wolfenberg smoke weed errday
Holy crap I can't believe you're doing a video with Richard Dawkins, props Derek! Your career is obviously taking off...
could we apply the hypothetical of fishers (a group that WORKS for their food) and pirates (a group that STEALS the food of others) to the wealth gap and economic inequality?
lukassnakeman I don't see why not. The pirates in that case, let's call them the 1% ;), are unstable if they steal too much, let's say 90% of society's wealth, while the fishers either die of starvation and/or desease or are forced to become pirates themselves through either sheer luck to be in the right place at the right time to become a 1%er somehow or a criminal common pirate.
lukassnakeman In short: yes. Evolutionary stable strategies are an application of Game Theory on evolutionary biology. Some economists apply Game Theory in the same way evolutionary biologists do, but self-evidently use Game Theory to answer different questions. There is some difficulty in acquiring parameters to formulate mathematical equations though.
Landon Wood An argument could be made that you have the roles reversed.
lukassnakeman It's more complex than that.
If you were to translate that into the language of game theory, it would imply that society is moving towards some "evolutionarily stable" nash equlibrium where everyone is behaving as well as they can. Under this condition, a "fisher" (working class person) would not be any better off being a "pirate" (assuming you're referring to the upper class/1%/bourgeoisie), which I think we can agree does not describe society particularly well. If you assume that we're not at the point, but the economic system still works off of the model you describe, we'd actually expect to see a decrease in inequality over time as the system tends toward a stable point where nobody is better off if they find themselves in a different group. There is are much more complex dynamics that push the wealth gap, and I don't think this model plays into it at all.
If you're interested in it, game theory does play into the way people make choices about how they will educate themselves and invest in skills, how businesses big and small choose when to invest and open up new stores, and many other aspects of society and the economy.
Landon Wood Just like children are pirates and parents are fishers. I remember being seven years old, bedridden with mumps, pirating the chicken soup that my fisher mother had worked to make, stealing the food from her very mouth. Same way, the elderly and veterans are former fishers who've turned to a life of easy piracy.
It's all so complicated, isn't it? I can see why you're confused.
If you want to know about evolutionary stability, the all time expert is the late Stephen J. Gould. Punctuated Equalibrium. Dawkins in this episode seems to be forgetting the role that isolated populations play in evolution and the interbreeding of semi-isolated groups.
Richard Dawkins!
you have met one of the most amazing specimen of our species! congrats on meeting Dawkins! I hope you'll post the entire interview someday.
What? Why where the 3 people you wanted to meet all meme pop scientists?
Mister Captain What is the problem with that? Those are people that are all very influential. Sure, he could dream to meet some very obscure mathmatician that came up with something that most people have no idea about, but this is obviously not the case.
Mister Captain higher view count on his videos bro = more ad money and future expansion
on a side note I don't see anyone interviewing Leonard Suskind even tho his work has contributed more to physics than all these pop science people combined.
ᅚ ᅚ i just wanted to reply to you to see what came out
It was nice to see both of you together.
There's a word for this: a Nash Equilibrium.
TheJaredtheJaredlong There is a book for this - John Maynard Smith "Evolution and the theory of games".
TheJaredtheJaredlong I don't know the math. But when he talked about the stable equilibriums, I guessed it's nash eqm. Thanks to science4all.com
Дмитрий Голик Didn't know this book existed, I need to read that. Thanks!
Your documentary is on norwegian television right now, i was soo happy when i turned on the tv and saw you talking.
Dawkins the Great
been waiting for a video like this
What would you guys say humanity is, about 20% Fisher, 80% Pirate?
I think you greatly overestimate the number of pirates. There is always fewer people at the top of a pyramid system leeching off the toil of the many
Congrats, dude! Glad you got to meet the people you wanted to. Your videos are really great, and very interesting.
Veritasium I understand evolution and how it works. I wish experts and science communicators would stop using terms that imply that individuals within evolution have a choice in traits or genetics, beyond the choice of mate. I think it gives the impression that evolution is directed by choice rather than environment or biology.
Cool channel though.
Maxx B You just explained how it is directed by choice, at least in sexually reproductive organisms...
Note the word 'beyond'.
Maxx B Note the "+veritasium"??? Why tag the creator of this channel?
fla playa
Because the reply was directed at the creator of this video. I am aware he has no control over what Dawkins was saying, but he put this video out with sloppy terminology. As a science communicator his job is to inform viewers in a clear and accurate way, not just regurgitate information.
Maxx B That's a really great point. There are much worse science channels on RUclips though. VSauce 2, That guy butchers everything. It's a tough world. I dare you to attempt making a video better explaining the principles you speak of. I think Derek almost does as good as Carl Sagan or David Suzuki. Glad he does what he does in this dumbed down modern world:)
I just watched Uranium Twisting The Dragons Tail last night. I wish there were more episodes although I'm not sure how many episodes you could make entertaining for common viewers, but I personally find Uranium fascinating, I could listen to you talk for hours though.
OMG he interviewed Dawkins...
I'm sorry to congradict, but its you, your contend and your style, what gives you the opportunity to meet these three guys and fulfill your dream.
So you fulfilled it yourself.
Take my gratulations.
Can you subtitle your videos, please? For me, it would be easier to understand what you're saying, because I can't understand you speaking english (maybe in the future), but I can read english.
Rodrigo Appendino you can turn on english subtitles i think
JoshDoesEverything No. Only the auto-subtitle is avaible. It's terrible.
@@rodrigoappendino Agreed. I've done one video with subtitles, and I used the auto subtitles as the basis: by the end I realized it would have been faster just to write my own from scratch instead of using the auto titles!
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"A mutant pirate invades"
The most ridiculous part is that this sentence makes perfect sense in context. Damn, I love science.
but how's piracy a gene and not just a behaviour?
Are these traits written in the dna?
The think is, there is nothing in an animal thet is not coded in genes. A behaviour omes from a gene.
no behaviour is not written in our DNA, it is learned through experience in life-history events (juvenile/adult) that can be passed down through generations.And like he said in the beginning, it's a choice that best suits the individual that will determine its behaviour. So I think he was just using the terme "gene" to distinguish two different species
That's not true Kirrek, behaviours are determined by some extension of our genes. As Cesar Gonzalez says, in reality all traits in an organism have a genetic component. For example, consider the behavioural type described here - "pirate".
Being a pirate might be determined by a single gene, a combination of genes, a combination of genetics and early life environment (say, parental care provided in the nest), it could also be plastic (that is to say, an individual can change it's behaviour depending on the conditions it is currently experiencing), or any logical combination of the above. Whatever the scenario however, there will always be an underlining genetics which plays a role in determining the trait expressed.
Evolution acts on the base unit of selection: the gene. By suggesting behaviour isn't resultant from our DNA you're describing a world where all animals would cease to function and survive in the absence of considerable parental care - that's clearly not the reality of the world we live in. I hope that was clear.
behaviour is a trait that is heritable, but that doesn't necesseraly mean it has a genetic origin
Can you please provide an example? Most vertebrates demonstrate highly complex behaviours where it is practically impossible for current science to disentangle the genetic mechanisms. However, that doesn't mean these behaviours aren't based in an underlying genetics. Since all organisms are fundamentally an expression of their genes it's inevitable that ones behaviour has a genetic basis.
Just finished watching part 2 of the Uranium special, awesome presentation Derek!!
What if there was a bird that was adaptable to either fish or pirate? Wouldn't that bird become the standard and create stability?
Shawn Ravenfire There may be two cases. First - if such bird can properly define whether to act as fisher or pirate. So it would outcompete those who were strict fishers or pirates (or made this choice randomly). So we have evolution of intelligence. And second - if being pirate requires different physiological adaptations rather than being fisher so those who combine both behaviors would lose to strict specialists. Hence biodiversity arises. In nature both cases take place, so we have both intelligence and diversity among living things.
Shawn Ravenfire The topic here was simplified. In practice, the same individual may be capable of both sorts of behavior, with different proportions. So when we say that 20% of the population are pirates, and 80% are fishermen, what we actually mean is that 20% of the food-seeking behavior in the population is pirate-like, whereas 80% is fisherman-like. It could be that some individuals behave like pirates 60% of the time, and like fishermen 40% of the time, or some other proportion, but what matters is the overall percentage for each behavior in the whole population.
You should read Dawkins' book "The Selfish Gene" for more details.
My son and I just finished up watching Uranium. Nice job, I hope you will do more of these programs.
667 religious people can't face reality
Completely unrelated but alright.
lucky bastard, Richard Dawkins is properly the person that i want to meet the most
Whats witht he music, looks like you're trying to make Dawkins look like a clown. I know you didn't do it on purpose but seriously the music was terrible.
Reading about ESS in the "selfish gene" changed the way I think. It's just a great idea.
Love you and Dawkins
Keep doing what you're doing, Derek
just watched your first uranium documentary, greatly done, i loved that you used the word fantastical, and your dragon animation was adorable! although i knew all the science you went through, i want that picture of you when you first went into the bath as my screensaver :)
One video gives me more info than a months worth from school :) love your vids
just feel the urge to say "thank you for this video" because i'll have to do a presentation on this topic soon and was looking for a good example. This is easy to understand and well explained, so thanks a lot for the help!
Awesome video as always! :)
Looking forward to seeing Neil!
Thanks for making this video, consciousness raising is the exactly perfect phrase to describe The Selfish Gene. I remember reading the second edition when it first came out, and it change my entire view of life.
Very happy to see your progression. You are an inspiration!
I'm glad you and the channel is doing well. Thank you for the great content. Keep being awsome!
I believe the best choice is YOUR choice. By choosing what the majority of them do, your essentially choosing their choice. And by doing what YOU think is best for you, your more likely to end up better than doing what others do.
Just watched your documentary about uranium. Its really good i learned a lot from it, thanks for being one of the best science based youtubers.
Just finished watching your documentation Uranium - Part 1+2 on ARTE. And I have to say it was really good. Enjoyed watching it. Good job Derek! :D
I've been a subscriber for a while, and have always like you, but now? I'M IN LOVE! The selfish gene is one of my favourite books! Thanks for this video,Derek! As a biologist Richard Dawkins have always been one of my idols!😺😺😺😺😺😺😺😺
So glad to see the concept of ESS being explained here. The Selfish Gene is also my favourite book and particularly that 30th anniversary edition :) Thumbs up!
Veritasium I loved your documentary! Got both my parents to watch with me and have it recorded on the TV to watch again!
Hey, I just watched the Uranium documentary and it was *AWESOME!!* I hope that this wasn't the last documentary with you! :)
Dr. Muller, great work with the Uranium documentary. I've only had the chance to watch part one, but part 2 is waiting on my DVR and I'm very much looking forward to it. Congrats on all of your success and keep up the great work. I look forward to one day being stopped on the street by you and having my scientific knowledge tested!
This is awesome! I'm glad you could meet him! I love Mr. Dawkins.
Great information and great animated demonstration of the concept!!
Now I know why I like this channel so much. We have those guys in common. Neil Tyson, Richard Dawkins and Bill Nye are some of my heroes. =) Thanks for sharing this awesome content!
Richard Dawkins at Ve, brilliant!
"When evolution favours a stable ratio of traits rather than one dominant trait."
I clicked for the animation and I was not disappointed. 20/20 kappas.
I just finished watching the first part of your movie, It was awesome! I'm looking forward to watching part 2 tomorrow :D
More of this please!
AHHHH RICHARD DAWKINS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE
thats the thing that made me love richie dawkins in the first place, his evolutionary conjecture, the teaching of said evolutionary mechanism, well explained genomics, thats what made me study biology in college a while back as well, too bad he no longer teaches that through his amazing writing skills, he rather use his knowledge of biology to debate other people, in a way, a shame, but well, i don't ignore the importance of fighting some ignorance here and there, when the time is right.
That's awesome, Derek. Your videos are always great :-)
Loved the animations too.
Veritasium I just wanted to say I LOVED the 2 part Uranium Twisting the Dragons Tail special on PBS. Well done Derek.
Thank you for interviewing Richard Dawkins! He's my favorite author.
You are one lucky dude. I wouldn't know what to say if I met these guys. Such genius.
Congratulations Derek on meeting your idols!
Happy for you man! Keep it up
I have never thought about this! Great video!
This is EXACTLY what I'm studying at Uni and learning about Dawkins O.O
anything richard dawkins is amazing
Every time I see Dawkins I think of otters riding ostriches.
Gotta love Richard Dawkins. Can't wait to see you and NGT.
Omg my favorite author!!!! Thank you so much for writing the selfish gene! I love your work Richard Dawkins
This is a great example. I seem to recall reading about this in "The Selfish Gene," except it involved birds picking impossible to reach insects off other birds.
Hi Derek, just saw you on KQED public television on Friday talking about Uranium. Cool to see you on TV! You're moving up in the world... :)
Next time you meet Richard Dawkins, do 4 hours instead of 4 minutes of interview.
Congratulations on all your successes, Professor. You worked hard to achieve them.
I would LOVE to see the full interview!
Very excited for the Tyson video
Two Comments: First, The documentary on Uranium was fantastic, it started some really good discussions and provoked more than a few deep thoughts in my family. It would have been nice to hear more about some more technical subjects. Maybe something you can make videos on? For example I'd love to hear your explanation on critical mass. Something not covered in the documentary. Second, I really want to recommend The Selfish Gene to other people. It's a fantastic book, also very thought provoking, that will keep you fixated for hours. Definitely, if you're interested in evolution type science subjects, pick it up (whether from Audible or your library etc.).
Man i love how this man talks!