The video has factual errors, for example the territories of Georgia, namely Abkhazia and South Ossetia did not become part of the Russian Federation after the invasion.
@@ivanovd.8279 truth to be told, both regions were a mess similar to Ukrainian situation - both were autonomies led by ethnic minorities residing there, Georgia wanted to get them under centralized control (the conflict happened in 2008 isn't the first one within Georgia, the reasons was more or less the same both times). Russia, pretty much like America, just armed separatists first time, which resulted in finding some common ground between the sides, then intervened during the second time when Georgia tried to get regions under the control. Potentially, Ossetians/Abkhaz offered concessions to Russia in exchange for support (like Libyan separatists offered oil concessions to France and USA) - just a normal "Era of Conflicts" stuff. Current international law doesn't have a frameworks for recognizing such regions even if you have a presentative of each and every country present on the independence referendum, mainly, because then it allows funding any ethnic minority anywhere (KLA etc; although international law never functioned to begin with). I'd say Georgia was there at fault and for Putin it was just a happy coincidence he can use, given that there weren't much other conflicts around with other post-soviet republics.
@@ivanovd.8279 Russian troops are stationed there, but it is not an annexation, as happened with the territories of Ukraine. They still have their own republics there and Putin doesn't care what they do there as long as they continue to be in his orbit of influence.
To be fair, The Chechens were being oppressed by themselves, that's why after the second Chechen war the Chechens were willing to co-opereate, except for the Islamic extremist terrorists in the area, which were the ones who held most of Chechnya's political power. So perhaps, while some see Russia as oppressors, others see them as liberators.
My strongest argument against the DPR and LPR is, if they were a sentiment for autonomy, why did it became a thing AFTER the Euromaidan protests? If people really wanted to live in autonomous republics, the will for that mus have existed years before. But there is no record, neither western nor Russian or Ukrainian for that.
That sentiment has always been there. Such sentiments were reflected in the results of the referendums held in Crimea and Donbas in 1994. During the Orange Revolution in Ukraine in 2004, separatist sentiments resulted in the unrealized project of creating the South-Eastern Autonomous Ukrainian Republic. Russian-speaking regions, for example, voted for the Party of Regions, the party of Putin's President Yanukovych. That's in a nutshell. A whole layer of internal political life of Ukraine, Russian-Ukrainian relations and so on cannot be written down in one comment.
unfortunately the video that TommyKay is watching is factually incorrect. Russia did not annex Abkhazia and South Ossetia, they are still self-governing and not part of the Russian Federation. The video also does not say why the Russian Forces invaded Georgia (whether you agree with the reasoning or you dont).
@@Grek1574 yeah self-governing. They have political bodies that exercise power and jurisdiction (they have their own troops too) over the territory that they control, (which the Georgian government doesn't). If you want to talk about influence then of course, Kremlin has a lot of it over these two territories, they have their forces stationed there to protect their interests.
@@cruzvl4584 Russia has 5 military bases & 10,000 soldiers (which is 1 soldier for every 30 residents) in South Ossetia and Abkhazia. The self governing is just a cover and doesn't make it any less compatible with joining the Russian **Federation**. There's a reason most UN countries regard it as occupied by Russia, because it basically is.
@@reinforced9084 sure they are occupied because there are russian forces stationed. But they are not annexed as falsely stated in the video. Its matter of legal terminology.
It is a very interesting story about how he reached power. also, i seem to remember Dommy watched this before from another channel, maybe Armchair Historian? idk, could be wrong.
Fun fact about Putin. When he walk, you can see that his right arm barely moves...Thats from KGB training. They teach him, that he must be allways ready to reach gun. :)
Another comment section full of russian bots... Why are they even watching a video that they know they'll disagree with and make them mad? Do they have nothing better to do with their life?
do you even know that Georgians shelled Tskhinva? Obviosuly not - bcs they never reported on this. And I'm gerogian ahah adn even I know that. There are even videos of confused russian border guards sitting in ditches radiong for orders made on a nokia. @@baseditalian03
В этом ролике вы посмотрели самую правдивую и честную пропаганду, нет нет информацию западных Независимых сми.Достовернее и правдивее про Путина и Россию даже Господь Бог не расскажет, куда ему до запандных сми.А так мне нравится,что большинству русских стало наплевать на мнение запада ..,когда так отчетливо стало видно ваше лицимерие.С уважением русский хакер.
Putin invaded multiple countries and areas. 2008 under GWB, 2014 under Obama, and 2022 under Biden. Notice the gap. Unless this is sarcasm, this comment makes zero sense!
Tommy - "when the Russians attacked Chechnya where was the Muslim countries to defend them?" Me - What Muslim countries in the early 2000s were in a position to tell Russia no? All they had to do was occupy a small bordering nation and hold it so likely if they did support Chechnya it would have just made them look weak internationally
In fact, the Islamic world helped in any way it could. Mujahideen from all over the Muslim world began arriving in Chechnya, and financial aid from Islamic foundations in the Middle East and Western Europe flowed into Chechnya after them Foreigners played a key role in financing and supporting the separatists from abroad. Leaders of Arab fighters in Chechnya: Khattab - from January 1995 to March 20, 2002. Abu al-Walid - from April 2002 to April 16, 2004. Abu Hafs - from September 2004 to November 26, 2006. Muhannad - from December 2006 to April 21, 2011. Abdullah Kurd - from April 21 to May 2, 2011
The video has factual errors, for example the territories of Georgia, namely Abkhazia and South Ossetia did not become part of the Russian Federation after the invasion.
It's under direct Russian occupation
@@ivanovd.8279 truth to be told, both regions were a mess similar to Ukrainian situation - both were autonomies led by ethnic minorities residing there, Georgia wanted to get them under centralized control (the conflict happened in 2008 isn't the first one within Georgia, the reasons was more or less the same both times). Russia, pretty much like America, just armed separatists first time, which resulted in finding some common ground between the sides, then intervened during the second time when Georgia tried to get regions under the control. Potentially, Ossetians/Abkhaz offered concessions to Russia in exchange for support (like Libyan separatists offered oil concessions to France and USA) - just a normal "Era of Conflicts" stuff. Current international law doesn't have a frameworks for recognizing such regions even if you have a presentative of each and every country present on the independence referendum, mainly, because then it allows funding any ethnic minority anywhere (KLA etc; although international law never functioned to begin with). I'd say Georgia was there at fault and for Putin it was just a happy coincidence he can use, given that there weren't much other conflicts around with other post-soviet republics.
De-jure no. De-facto - yes
@@ivanovd.8279 Russian troops are stationed there, but it is not an annexation, as happened with the territories of Ukraine.
They still have their own republics there and Putin doesn't care what they do there as long as they continue to be in his orbit of influence.
@@150qwertyuyeah he doesn’t care what they do- so he rigged an election and annexed them all!!!
To be fair, The Chechens were being oppressed by themselves, that's why after the second Chechen war the Chechens were willing to co-opereate, except for the Islamic extremist terrorists in the area, which were the ones who held most of Chechnya's political power. So perhaps, while some see Russia as oppressors, others see them as liberators.
My strongest argument against the DPR and LPR is, if they were a sentiment for autonomy, why did it became a thing AFTER the Euromaidan protests? If people really wanted to live in autonomous republics, the will for that mus have existed years before. But there is no record, neither western nor Russian or Ukrainian for that.
That sentiment has always been there.
Such sentiments were reflected in the results of the referendums held in Crimea and Donbas in 1994.
During the Orange Revolution in Ukraine in 2004, separatist sentiments resulted in the unrealized project of creating the South-Eastern Autonomous Ukrainian Republic.
Russian-speaking regions, for example, voted for the Party of Regions, the party of Putin's President Yanukovych.
That's in a nutshell. A whole layer of internal political life of Ukraine, Russian-Ukrainian relations and so on cannot be written down in one comment.
Ok. But in this video weren't the two mainest oligarchs - Borys Berezovskiy and Vladimir Gusinskiy. Other oligarchs had the secondary role
unfortunately the video that TommyKay is watching is factually incorrect. Russia did not annex Abkhazia and South Ossetia, they are still self-governing and not part of the Russian Federation. The video also does not say why the Russian Forces invaded Georgia (whether you agree with the reasoning or you dont).
they are "self-governing" =)
@@Grek1574 yeah self-governing. They have political bodies that exercise power and jurisdiction (they have their own troops too) over the territory that they control, (which the Georgian government doesn't). If you want to talk about influence then of course, Kremlin has a lot of it over these two territories, they have their forces stationed there to protect their interests.
@@cruzvl4584 Russia has 5 military bases & 10,000 soldiers (which is 1 soldier for every 30 residents) in South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
The self governing is just a cover and doesn't make it any less compatible with joining the Russian **Federation**. There's a reason most UN countries regard it as occupied by Russia, because it basically is.
@@reinforced9084 sure they are occupied because there are russian forces stationed. But they are not annexed as falsely stated in the video. Its matter of legal terminology.
@@reinforced9084 So, USA occipied all europe in this logic . There are a lot usa's soldiers in poland, german etc
It is a very interesting story about how he reached power. also, i seem to remember Dommy watched this before from another channel, maybe Armchair Historian? idk, could be wrong.
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This video is full of errors
@@zearyy no dude
@@Saber23 aight, but Dommy did watch another video about Putin rising to power. One year ago. So it do be true. Sadge.
That’s a bit overly simplified…
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Yep. And previously was well known for been big open fan of Apple's products. He still have nickname "Iphone".
Fun fact about Putin. When he walk, you can see that his right arm barely moves...Thats from KGB training. They teach him, that he must be allways ready to reach gun. :)
Well, this is not a fact, but stupid conspiracy theory)) I also don’t use my hand and was not in the KGB)
Ok bro, go back to your coloring book.
surely Vox is an unbiased source 💀
Another comment section full of russian bots... Why are they even watching a video that they know they'll disagree with and make them mad? Do they have nothing better to do with their life?
My man is malding because another individual have another opinion
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couldn't you get a less biased video? confirmation bias is strong on this one
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Putin is like the democratic version of stalin but he was born in a rich neighborhood
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Tommy has such brainlet opinions on stuff like immigration etc. lmao
Attacking Georgia was an agression? Yeah okay bro
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hello? self awareness department?, you literally wrote, attacking?, hello?
do you even know that Georgians shelled Tskhinva? Obviosuly not - bcs they never reported on this. And I'm gerogian ahah adn even I know that. There are even videos of confused russian border guards sitting in ditches radiong for orders made on a nokia. @@baseditalian03
I’m sorry? How is Russia attacking Georgia NOT an aggression.
Putin frightened Saakashvili 4 years long before
This video is not a balanced account of history and puts Russia as the aggressor & instigator in all of these events.
Enjoy your immigrants while you can. They will certainly help Germany grow.
This video is full of lies, Georgi literally attacked Russia first
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Putin is based 41 v 1
idk hes loosing
This is the most biased video yet
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В этом ролике вы посмотрели самую правдивую и честную пропаганду, нет нет информацию западных Независимых сми.Достовернее и правдивее про Путина и Россию даже Господь Бог не расскажет, куда ему до запандных сми.А так мне нравится,что большинству русских стало наплевать на мнение запада ..,когда так отчетливо стало видно ваше лицимерие.С уважением русский хакер.
Predicted everything about Trump letting Putin run wild😂
You're just saying bullshit. Trump sent big military aid to the Ukraine.
Putin invaded multiple countries and areas. 2008 under GWB, 2014 under Obama, and 2022 under Biden. Notice the gap. Unless this is sarcasm, this comment makes zero sense!
Not really. Trump tried to get NATO off of Russian dependence and increased military spending. When with Biden, Putin's actually invading Ukraine rn.
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Meh who is Russia 😂 some dead country tryna regain lost territories to rebuild some defunct state
God bless Putin and Russia 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
so true
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Tommy - "when the Russians attacked Chechnya where was the Muslim countries to defend them?"
Me - What Muslim countries in the early 2000s were in a position to tell Russia no? All they had to do was occupy a small bordering nation and hold it so likely if they did support Chechnya it would have just made them look weak internationally
In fact, the Islamic world helped in any way it could.
Mujahideen from all over the Muslim world began arriving in Chechnya, and financial aid from Islamic foundations in the Middle East and Western Europe flowed into Chechnya after them
Foreigners played a key role in financing and supporting the separatists from abroad.
Leaders of Arab fighters in Chechnya:
Khattab - from January 1995 to March 20, 2002.
Abu al-Walid - from April 2002 to April 16, 2004.
Abu Hafs - from September 2004 to November 26, 2006.
Muhannad - from December 2006 to April 21, 2011.
Abdullah Kurd - from April 21 to May 2, 2011