The DOWNFALL of Disney| Why modern cinema feels SOULLESS?

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  • Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024
  • Let's discuss what modern Disney and adjacent movies are lacking. ☕
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  • @Lila-ie1eo
    @Lila-ie1eo 4 дня назад +2

    You narrated the Nightingale really well, I teared up at the end. Not what I expected when clicking on a video, but a welcome surprise. And I wholeheartedly agree with your point.

  • @danielmalinen6337
    @danielmalinen6337 5 месяцев назад +22

    Really warm and kind video. Thank you. You can make your critical comment sound like a beautiful art and listening to this video was very touching.

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  5 месяцев назад +1

      Aww, thank you so much, really happy you liked it ^-^

  • @bella_daze3092
    @bella_daze3092 5 месяцев назад +17

    I just found this video. I had never really heard of the story of the nightingale before… but I can see why it touched your heart as it touched mine. This felt like- I dunno- I can see what’s finally going on around us when it comes to art

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you so much for this sweet comment, I'm so happy the Nightingale moved you, Hans Christian Andersen is an amazing writer, there's something really sad but also really hopeful in his works, they make ya feel a type of way. I'm also glad the vid gave you some food for thought and appreciate you commenting. ^-^

    • @bella_daze3092
      @bella_daze3092 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@duskytalkz no problem. I hope to stick around here! This place seems really cozy😭

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@bella_daze3092Hehe, thank you, that's the goal ☕✨🌌

  • @Izelikestea
    @Izelikestea 2 месяца назад +4

    you cannot convince people by belittling them. and you cannot create good art when you are disconnected from who you are making it for.
    ironically, your argument is so kindly and emphatically put, that I am convinced of both.
    I never understood the nightingale as a kid, but this video has given me an epiphany
    thank you 😊

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  2 месяца назад

      Thank you so much for the sweet comment :') I'm happy you enjoyed my thoughts and explanations

  • @shibumi8
    @shibumi8 2 дня назад +1

    That was inspiring and informative. You’re also very suited for narrating a story. 😊

  • @DisgruntledGoblin
    @DisgruntledGoblin 2 месяца назад +4

    Even though there are things I like about a lot of the movies/series you criticized, you've definitely made a good point about the overall attitude and culture of artists/studios impacting their art in a negative way. So often people talk about "progress" in our modern world but this "progress" is often superficial and comes at a heavy cost to our own mental wellbeing and attitude toward the world, and naturally that bleeds into our art.
    And even I'll admit many of the recent movies I've liked feel somewhat disjointed and definitely could have used more time and care. I love Marvel movies/series and Star Wars but recently the sheer quantity of them has overwhelmed me and I don't keep up with them like I used to. It's just too much, too fast, too half-baked.

  • @V-Oblivion
    @V-Oblivion 10 дней назад +1

    "Try being a better human"
    Isn't that the hardes't thing to do nowadays.
    Yet a beutiful message to recieve.

  • @TwetesNightSong
    @TwetesNightSong 11 дней назад

    I love this. Especially what you said about finding the good in the small places. most of my favorite books are extremely unknown, almost all of my favorite movies are old and mostly forgotten. And I decided a long time ago that my goal in writing stories would always be to make something of value, something that helped people the way my favorite stories once helped me. Your video was very encouraging, thank you

  • @rebeccaackerman2443
    @rebeccaackerman2443 2 месяца назад +2

    This was so beautiful. I actually remember the story of The Nightingale, I haven't heard that story since 3rd grade and I thought it was beautiful but I had forgotten the name of the stroy and never fully understood it's meaning until now. It is truly a true testament to true art. And I never realized Hans Christan Anderson wrote it.

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  2 месяца назад

      Thank you so much for the sweet comment. I'm really happy I managed to put a name to a story from your childhood, I love when people rediscover memories like that ^-^
      I actually skipped a part of the story that is a pretty good social commentary on the way different classes of people are in touch or not in touch with reality, it just wasn't relevant to what I'm discussing but it is a lovely layer to the story so I definitely recommend re-reading the full tale if you have the time, it's an artistic gem.

  • @starsandbeyond5848
    @starsandbeyond5848 5 месяцев назад +24

    Studios have forgotten the formula for luring audiences in. It's all about the clever story. When they use fairy tails written by talented people they succeed, but when they use chat GPT and lazy writers that's what we get.

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  5 месяцев назад +8

      Absolutely agree, and I think this again boils down to cutting on cost and time, from what I've observed some people are just kinda reluctant to pay for good writers/artists etc., they just kinda want a quick gratification and the magic to happen just so

    • @starsandbeyond5848
      @starsandbeyond5848 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@duskytalkz Yes and we the viewers are suffering most from these choices. The lion king is what led me to do animation in life and to publish my own comic books. If I wasn't inspired at five years old by something so ground breaking and I had seen the remake I would have never been so enchanted by this field of work.

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  5 месяцев назад +2

      ​​@@starsandbeyond5848 O wow 🥹 that is so lovely, congratulations on your comic books, it takes a lot to achieve something like this, really happy about you. And again aaaabsolutely agree, the media we consume has the ability to have a profound impact on us (especially in our childhood when we perceive the world even more intensely than as adults), that is why I think it's important to keep bringing light to the issue and "make a noise" about it because it's not insignificant at all.

    • @starsandbeyond5848
      @starsandbeyond5848 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@duskytalkz You're doing a great job with your videos. I think we share a lot of opinions in common and I really like your channel ☺️

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@starsandbeyond5848you're so sweet ^-^ thank you for the kind words and good luck in all your future artistic endeavors 🤗

  • @fatimaariadna8872
    @fatimaariadna8872 2 месяца назад +3

    The Nightingale is also one of my favorite fairy tales. When you read it out loud it was so beautiful and magical I cried at the end. Thanks🥹

  • @alexanderengland473
    @alexanderengland473 11 дней назад

    Everything you just said perfectly captures how I feel nowadays, and pop culture and stories have changed for the worst. But, you explained it in such a kind and thought full way. Thank you for the video ❤

  • @kristinahuchison2511
    @kristinahuchison2511 5 месяцев назад +4

    Great video! I’ve been a huge fan of Hayao Miyazaki and his movies. I have never seen this movie but I’ve seen several Studio Ghibli movies and personally I think the reason he keeps coming back to make movies is because he’s trying to keep the true spirit of art alive. Anime is literally what’s keeping handdrawn animation alive because of how greedy and corrupt the animation industry has become. I’ve seen several shows I’ve grown up with get absolutely destroyed because the studios producing them care more about selling toys and merchandise to kids than actually making a good story for kids to look back on when they’re older. I have quite a few Disney movies that aren’t particularly liked as much as others, but they hold a special place in my heart, and it breaks my heart so much to see what Wish could’ve become if Bob Iger wasn’t obsessed with making money and just doesn’t give a crap about making good movies anymore. The worst part is Wish could’ve easily been a Renaissance level movie if Disney had just trusted the original story, but no. They cared more about financial gain than actually celebrating Walt’s legacy and his mark in the entertainment industry in general. Walt Disney would be absolutely heartbroken by what his kingdom has become, a mega corporation that only cares about money and milking beloved franchises to death for every last penny. I hope more people see this video!

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for this very interesting and detailed comment, I love reading people's in-depth opinions.
      I also think anime is one of the last keepers of 2d animation and it breaks my heart seeing older watercolor-y Disney that feels like a painting compared to the new visuals that look plastic-y or dull like in Wish. I'm not sure why they were so stuck on the idea of blending watercolor and 3d for Wish when it clearly wasn't working, the whole movie is colored in a depressing flat gray, what kinda mood is that setting. Plus they really misunderstood what creates nostalgia, nostalgia isn't seeing some objects you've seen before in a previous movie and going "yaaay", nostalgia is getting you to feel something familiar. That can't be achieved through "things" but rather, good writing and understanding of emotions a.k.a it could've been achieved through an original story that just carried a familiar feeling.
      I wonder if all that pursuit of money is what made them so detached from people and feelings, after all Walt Disney built something up from the ground, faced struggles, while modern Disney has been given an already established legacy and maybe some of the people on the top (like Bob Iger) really don't know how to value it. Sad to see greed ruin art, so like you, I applaud Miyazaki for all he does, and I hope there will be people who follow in his footsteps and try to keep the spirit of good art alive.
      As for you, I'm curious what are the not so popular Disney movies that you personally like?

    • @kristinahuchison2511
      @kristinahuchison2511 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@duskytalkz well, as you and several other people have pointed out, Wish is clearly a corporate product and not an actual story honoring Walt’s legacy. Its so ridiculous how many references and Easter eggs they jammed into the movie, specifically Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Peter Pan and Cinderella. I get having small nods that you don’t catch the first time, but having several blatant references is just so annoying. It reminds me of the sequels that sometimes included nods from better movies just proving how bad the sequel is, specifically the Micky Mouse Sorcerer’s hat in the Hunchback 2. And it’s honestly so insulting and annoying the main reason they chose not to make Wish a traditional 2D handdrawn movie is because “its too hard” and how many layoffs they had. I honestly feel bad for the people forced to work on it and weren’t paid nearly enough, and they’ve admitted to not liking the changes inflicted on the movie either.
      As for the movies I still enjoy, Pocahontas is definitely one of them. This movie just hasn’t aged well for a lot of people and it feels like it gets more hate every year. And its to the point a lot of people don’t understand Pocahontas or John’s characters, calling her too serious (when she’s pretty free and laidback) and John an irredeemable monster who didn’t deserve her love. I definitely understand the egregious liberties Disney took with her story and how this felt more like a big joke and mockery towards Native American culture and making them feel like their history and stories don’t matter, or even downplaying the harsh reality of what their people went through when the English came and basically portraying it as a joke.

    • @kristinahuchison2511
      @kristinahuchison2511 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@duskytalkz some other movies I don’t think get enough credit would be Atlantis the Lost Empire, Brother Bear, Tarzan, and different ones from the dark age of Disney. They all have special things about most of them that Wish completely ignored to “play it safe” for the sake of profit. It’s honestly so sad yet ironic the most popular character of Wish isn’t even in the movie. Starboy and Asha had the potential to be one of the most popular couples, and frankly I actually really liked Asha’s original character of being more timid and reserved, while Star kinda reminds me of Naveen and Flynn with his goofy outgoing personality, perfect for helping Asha break out of her shell

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  5 месяцев назад

      ​@@kristinahuchison2511Yeah whenever I ponder over where things went wrong in a certain movie, I do stop and think that probably many of the artists and writers had a vision but someone above them had different priorities, very unfortunate how that whole system is set up, to be a cog in a corporate machine when you've got a creative soul has to be one of the scariest things I could imagine can happen to an artist professionally
      Pocahontas, that's really interesting I need to revisit it, as a kid it didn't capture my attention for some reason but it'll be cool to look on the relationship dynamic there from my grown up perspective. And as for Disney taking liberties with the story, definitely not their first time, but I understand why when it borrows from actual history, it has to be done with more care.
      The other examples are also really good, Brother Bear is my favorite Disney movie, I was so shocked when I saw how many people dislike it 😂 but I've been seeing in recent times more people talk about it positively so there's hope.
      And ooo boii the Starboy and Asha situation, I'm definitely making a video where I'll include them as part of the point cuz boi o boi do I have opinions 😂 but yeah definitely agree that it's so disappointing that they scrapped that whole concept.

    • @kristinahuchison2511
      @kristinahuchison2511 5 месяцев назад

      @@duskytalkz oh, I’ve already seen plenty of fanart for Starboy and Asha, and from the sounds of the original story Starboy and Asha could’ve easily become one of my favorite couples. Absolutely love his design and having a more goofy and mischievous personality like Flynn. Yes, I really do enjoy Brother Bear despite its not a personal favorite. I really enjoyed the more accurate presentation of Inuit culture and Kenai’s faulty relationship with his brothers, especially Koda. The thing that’s the biggest problem for me is the fact it basically became Open Season when Kenai becomes a bear. The humor is so dumb and aimed at kids, and the moose brothers Ruk and Tuk were in it too much. They ruined the most emotional part of the movie when Koda’s trust in Kenai is destroyed and Kenai feeling overwhelming regret for his actions. It didn’t help the song plays during the part he’s telling Koda the truth instead of after, so its pretty irritating seeing Disney fumble a very sad and emotional scene. But yes, it deserves more recognition imo. Even the sequel wasn’t too bad in comparison to other sequels, I actually found Nita to be an interesting character and wish she had more personality than being limited to Kenai’s love interest.
      As for Pocahontas, it holds a special place in my heart ever since I was a kid and Colors of the Wind remains my favorite Disney song because of the nostalgia it carries and why I fell in love with Pocahontas and John Smith as a couple. Note, I knew the real story of Pocahontas before watching the movie, so my mind simply processed the movie as a fictional story. But anyways, I wish more people would at least acknowledge and respect what Disney tried doing with the movie instead of ridiculing it as nothing more than a huge insult and slap in the face to Native Americans and their culture. I’m still under the belief if Disney had completely fictionalized the characters and inspired it by the legend of Pocahontas, more people wouldn’t be so hard on it nowadays. Hercules is a famous example of taking huge liberties with the original story of Heracles and completely lying about the actual characters of Zeus, Hera and Hades, amongst other nitty gritty details, but it’s still pretty popular for a lot of people, and sadly Pocahontas took all the heat. I’m even working on my own Pocahontas story if you want to take a look sometime :)

  • @OpticalSorcerer
    @OpticalSorcerer 2 месяца назад +2

    I'm probably one of the few people who thinks WDAS JUST started to decline:
    1. "Raya" deserved to be a musical (with specific SEA distinctions, ie Heart being a land inspired Vietnam or Malaysia). The writers saying songs would take away from the seriousness of the film obviously haven't seen the 90s Disney films.
    2. "Strange World" was so gwneric, I can't believe Disney made it. They chose a space exploration story, yet none of the designs or ideas felt fresh.
    3. The OG concepts for "Wish" sound so great, I'm suspicious about the circumstances of production, especially since Jennifer said "This Wish" was written before the script and Julia said the music team had very little to go off of, story-wise, with about one storyboard (idk if she meant per song or overall; probably the former).
    4. We could've easily had a high-budget "Moana" tv show AND an original, unrelated Pacific Islander musical this year instead. Since "Moana" was predominantly inspired by Polynesia (with research done in Samoa and Tahiti, as well as the Melanesian island of Fiji), we could've covered a Micronesian or Melanesian culture instead.
    And I'm not saying we can't have sequels, original stories, and 3D films, but striking a balance between 2D and 3D, adapting more fairy tales, and spacing the sequels out more would be ideal for me.

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  2 месяца назад

      Raya begin a musical would've been cool, but to me it had more problems than that. I felt like I wanted to explore the different kingdoms/areas? (I've forgotten their name) more but we brushed past all of em and the ending was morally questionable
      Agreed about Strange World, yikes
      Wish had many issues I think one of the main ones being that they rushed it, unfortunately for our fast paced standards, good art actually requires time, many drafts and letting the concept crystalize naturally, when you rush it because of deadlines the result will be unsatisfactory
      Moana tv show would've been really cool I agree
      A balanced approach to 2d, 3d, original stories and sequels would indeed be nice but alas..

    • @OpticalSorcerer
      @OpticalSorcerer 2 месяца назад

      @@duskytalkz Oh, Raya had HUGE problems with it's message (Namaari will always be iffy in my eyes), and I feel like that combined with the travel story of exploring and uniting other lands makes it better suited for a series rather than a movie. I also question why they went the tribal approach when there were many SEA kingdoms in history.
      In my personal opinion, Moana, the Frozens, Zootopia, Wreck-It Ralph, and Encanto were best as 3D (for effects or otherwise) while the rest could've been 2D. And I feel like Disney should be revoluntionary (for an animated film studio) and set up it's films for sequels rather than making them one-offs and then an unrelated sequel because it was successful. It's risky, but still!

  • @kryssie1866
    @kryssie1866 4 месяца назад +3

    Your voice is so soft and beautiful ❤ just like a elf

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  4 месяца назад +1

      Aww, thank you so much ʕ⁠っ⁠•⁠ᴥ⁠•⁠ʔ⁠っ✧

  • @dementedpersonality7475
    @dementedpersonality7475 5 месяцев назад +7

    me watching the video
    this is beautiful
    me seeing it has 309 views
    oh screw you youtube

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  5 месяцев назад +2

      Aww hehe, that's such a sweet comment, thank you, made my night ^-^

    • @dementedpersonality7475
      @dementedpersonality7475 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@duskytalkz aw no prob your vid was really good and i wish i was more like you

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  5 месяцев назад

      ​@@dementedpersonality7475Aww, haha I'm really nothing special but if you've taken anything from the vid that can benefit you in a positive way, that's a win ʕ⁠っ⁠•⁠ᴥ⁠•⁠ʔ*⁠.⁠✧

    • @dementedpersonality7475
      @dementedpersonality7475 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@duskytalkz yeah you seem like a really sweet person and i was partly referring to that but i was partly referring to how you make videos ive made a few myself and there not quite as good as yours

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  5 месяцев назад

      ​@@dementedpersonality7475I checked your channel it's pretty good actually, to be fair I'm working on my "style" one video at a time, like, ideas pop up to you while you're making something, so keep up the vids and you'll definitely grow into your own style that you'll be happy about. I subbed for ya, looking forward to your next vid. ^-^

  • @artemismoon8211
    @artemismoon8211 2 месяца назад

    This video is extremely well made, amazing work

  • @papermr.magolorguy7957
    @papermr.magolorguy7957 3 месяца назад +1

    I am planning to write a fairytale movie :). Wish me luck ❤

  • @highward5292
    @highward5292 5 месяцев назад +4

    can i just say how nice your voice and your accent sounds like

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you so much, when I stared my channel I was kinda worried people might not vibe with it, but I'm so happy you like it, very sweet of you ^-^

    • @highward5292
      @highward5292 5 месяцев назад

      @@duskytalkz you are literally the person i wish my non existend friends were cuz im obsessed with forest and stuff and you give that vibe 😭

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  5 месяцев назад

      ​@@highward5292Ahaha😭 forest people unite, yeah I adoooore the forest and the fields, I live near a mountain and so 😂 it's become part of my essence at this point, I try to sneak clips of my nature adventures in my videos here and on insta hehehe, really happy to meet another forest appreciator :3

    • @highward5292
      @highward5292 5 месяцев назад

      @@duskytalkz YESSS its so rare for me to find people anywhere who enjoy it in this really artistic kind of way. ohhh im so jealous i wish i had mountains near by 😫. out of curiosity, do you happen to be from iceland/norwey?

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  5 месяцев назад

      ​@@highward5292 I think it's a bit more difficult finding like-minded people irl, cuz you usually don't meet based on interests but rather stuff like school, uni, work. Whereas online everyone's searching for their niche and you can stumble upon people who have very similar interests to yours more easily. As for me, I'm from Bulgaria but I'd defo love to visit Iceland one day, it seems very pretty there.

  • @TheGamingAngel18
    @TheGamingAngel18 11 дней назад

    You make great videos, you deserve more subs

  • @oranjaglad8648
    @oranjaglad8648 4 месяца назад

    100th like to signal boost this video. Love your voice!

    • @duskytalkz
      @duskytalkz  4 месяца назад

      That's so kind of you, thank you so so much ^-^

  • @once5590
    @once5590 5 месяцев назад +3

    YEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHH😊