Why Jay-Z Sabotaged Joe Budden's Career
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Chapters:
02:48 Pump It Up - The Rise of Joe Budden
07:22 Jay-Z wants Pump It Up
16:16 Jay-Z becomes president of Def Jam 
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Been waiting for this one!!
you can really spit bars now g im impressed
You talking about head, did you see yours? You look more dorky than when you were rainbowed..🤪😵🦧🐀
Killin' it bruvva..Channel's just getting stronger Sia..f*ck sorry..TLX
Idiots
Ross looking like he's bout to snatch 101 Dalmatians
DeVille in the details
@@ksligh4893 😂😂😂😂😂
W
Lmao
Looooolololol
Joe Budden will definitely be watching this. Lets see if him or his co-hosts respond.
Let's bet which one will pretend they didn't, but still have an opinion. Rory
theyve made reference to watching ross before ??
Ross is a GUEST in hiphop commentary🤓
@@amirdada5700 nah, he never claimed that its black only. Dont go starting spreading false "facts".
Joe works with Parks and Freq, both of them are white. You are confused with lord jamar
e r being black isn’t but hip hop was started by black people and is predominantly black
Part 2: How Joe Budden sabatoged his own career by being Joe Budden
And exactly the video he did. Lol
Hov was not promoting no dope head that stole his flow, then rapped like The Game after he dissed him. That niggas rap is corny
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Don’t forget “pump it up” was on “you got served” at one of the best parts of the movie 😂💯💯. That was a big look
The problem is, when you think of JB's music career, pump it up is the only song that comes to mind. He's basically a 1 hit wonder. Yeah he did slaughterhouse and all that etc, but his music is generally trash.
@@uglyraff9313 i wouldn't call it trash. it's more like nonexistent fluff with zero value that never gets talked about. never in my life have I heard " aye you heard that new joe budden?"
@@mystymos3614 nonexistent fluff with zero value aka trash noone cares about. 1 hit wonder.
@@uglyraff9313 It seems like that to people who not familiar with his music. He did only have one big hit hit everybody not into the hitmaking business. Joe made a different type of music. This is honestly his era going on right now. His music is raw as hell it's just not some shit you play at a party. You gotta sit and listen and feel it. Depending on what your criteria is for good music Joe has way too much good music for it to go under the radar the way it does
@@draenation265 Theres a thousand different artists i'd turn to for raw deep music before I ever listen to Joe. But each to their own.
Breaking down the Nicki vs remy beef would be cool
Not realy hannah
^!!! Nicki allegedly was stopping Remy’s bag bts and then she dropped Shether. Not much to it tbh.
What is there to break down? Nicki is petty, manipulative, and wants to be the only successful female rapper. She picks at everyone that may be competition. She took shots at Remy, made moves behind the scenes, Rem dropped “Shether” and Nicki’s soul been homeless ever since.
@@distinctlydri2831 😭😭😭 Remus faded into the abyss
@@distinctlydri2831 The funny thing about this is how she's always droning on about how hard it is for female rappers, about how there aren't enough female rappers, about how women in the industry need to be treated better _[What she really means is that she herself deserves speacial privileges]_ and every fucking time she gets competition she tries to shit on them and shut them down. Everytime she gets competition she gets pissy and pulls some petty shit.
I've said it time and time again that the only reason why Nicki was able to reign for as long as she did was because she didn't have no damn competition. Who tf was there to compete with her? She had a free range monopoly on the "female rapper" lable.
That as well as the fact that she sat on Wayne's lap throughout her career was why she was "at the top" for so long.
Gotta be ruthless to get to billionaire status lol.
Not worth it.
🐐🐐
& fruity lol
48 Laws of Power Agrees
Ahh this is why it takes you a minute to upload. Commenting on all the videos I watch, I see you
Oh shit! What up Primm?!
It seems like Jay Z has a history of being VERY insecure and grimey. And he still tries to throw jabs at rappers till this day.
Hes a competitive and throws shows at ppl he feel is dope. That's hip hop not grimy or insecure. And honestly Joe is just as petty just wasent as rich lol
Earl Gray throwing shade at people you think are good at the same thing you do sounds like the definition of insecure to me.
Pitufo Chiludo Naz broke down who Jay z
Z really is in Ether, the guys mums was dying & Jay Z went for him.
@@SuperOleyoley Jay Z dick ryder
Earl Gray Nah. He’s all of those things I said. He’s all about self gain. He sold his mom crack for years. That alone shows you his character before you even get to other people’s story about him.
"Joe Budden liked the feeling of having the best rapper on his ass"
"I'm sure Beyonce feels the same" 😂 😂 😂
Now Joe praises Jay ever freaking podcast
If Joe Budden didn’t think everyone was out to get him and the world revolved around him he’d be an all time great. Literally everything he touches burns
Maybe because that’s his experience, jay WAS out to get him
THAT NIGGA IS NITROGLYCERIN IN HUMAN FORM...
The thing is that it’s not just that. It always turns to gold first, THEN it burns
Called him a short temper Charlamagne 😂😂
DMX hurled the same accusations at Jay. Hov used his position within the company to suppress rappers that might pose a threat to his album sales and chart position. I see it as a major conflict of interest for J to be a high powered executive at a label that has MC's on their roister that hover around the same lanes as Hov. Puffy did the same thing to his roster, plundering their hottest tracks to be used on his No Way Out Album. Hella sus in my book. But then again, Budden is a total asshole so I don't feel bad for him when he got the shaft.
I think Ludacris was the only label vet being promoted when Jay took over. Or at least he happened to have more success than others. It seemed like guys like Method Man and Redman were sidelined hard. Redman ended up doing his own videos and Mef didn't even have one video. DMX ended up leaving for Columbia and a lot of vets left later on.
Could have been bad timing or MCs stopped being marketable at that time but the timing is interesting. Rappers running labels practically always fails. Master P may be the rare exception since he promoted everyone but that label crashed and burned in the end.
Yep, and this jyst1 little reason why the bloke isa nob!
@@MistyDusker That's always the problem when the artist runs his own label. Ego can get in the way.
“Some of the best lyricist in the game, like Sean Price” *shows picture of Buckshot from Black Moon. Smh.
Thought I was trippin' 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Man...I had to rewind and pause at least 3 times.
After Sean Price has died, this can been seen as a major disrespect.
P!
Exactly he dont know HE'S A LIMEY
My g, was looking thru d comments if any1 else peeped dat 😂
Why didn’t you shave your head for this one?
Joe Budden did not get fired from complex. Joe Budden walked away from the new contract they offered him at complex Because he didn’t agree with what they were offering
aka got fired
DAMN ... Jay Z is slimey tho...we can’t trust that man😪
@Bobby Knuckles ok then, get screwed over and come talk about your experience about that... smartass.
Slivering snake
@@wealldead bro u dead already tf u talking about🥴
Shut your grim as up man
Yeah i dont think you become a billionaire with clean hands.. Hey would you guys mind listening to a song i just dropped. Im trying to bring some awareness to myself as an artist, i just need a sec.
That diss toward Lil Tecca was so witty I had to press like 😂
6:35 Always drop time stamps
How is that witty? Sounds like the typical highschool diss
"I'm stuck between platinum and flop, underground and mainstream, concious, backpack, scratch that, same thing. I'm somewhere between the real and the fakeness, the red pill, blue pill, real and the matrix"
Y’all can’t take this if the game needs a new look, I’m between a tummy tuck and a facelift. Joe is a Monster
So he doesn't know rather he's real or fake? Or even wat kind of music he himself makes?That's wat I got from those lil bars
Joe leaves Spotify and now there's 1000 people dedicating whole half hour/ hour talking about him.....Joe wins again
U upset bout it bro?
@@jesseporter3397 8 figures on Joe's head is disrespect yeah
King Khoda huh
King Khoda He’s literally said none of that nor does his podcast come off that way.What an idiotic misinformed take.
King Khoda Yes because they don’t know what it’s like to maneuver as Black men in business.
If I was Joe Budden when Jay Z said “so what” to ruining my career. I would have just started swinging.
Sure you would...STFU
@@JECZ23 😐 I mean if you fine with someone intentionally fucking you over that’s fine bro. Not everybody like that; plus if you was Joe Budden at that time you would have the money to pay for any charges so what’s there to lose. But aye whatever 😐
@@rabbittherabbit Not that I wouldn't want to swing on him but let's be real...if you value your life, no guy is swinging on Jay. Not cuz he'll mess you up, his bodyguards & affiliates will handle you. Only Solange & Bey get away with that.
@@JECZ23 I’m saying if you and Joe Budden swapped bodies and you were Joe Budden during that confrontation where Jay Z basically told you to Fuck off. At that point it’s not about him fucking you over in your career, it’s about him doing that and having the audacity to disrespect you about it. Sure you as Joe Budden may lose that fight, but it’s worth it to make sure Jay Z know you not someone he can fuck over and get away with it.
"we all know how much R.Kelly likes hitting 15"
I'M DEAD!!!
Video: talking about a beef between Joe Budden and Jay-Z
Live Chat: *arguing over pizzagate*
lmao
Why does he fuck with Marina, tho
What did you *edit* ?
That's 2020 in a nutshell.
How do yall do that lol
Ross, I’ve been watching your channel for about a year now and I gotta say your channel is phenomenal bro.💯 I appreciate your dedication, respect and appreciation to the culture, keep up the good work.
The sultan of sicko deserves a lot more 😂😂😔😂
A fellow jb fits fan
Demon hours, You know the fucking vibez 😈
Fact: Years after 2003, even up untill today (if it weren't for covid) pump it up is played at NBA games more than any other hip hop song
Not true
More than Yeah by Usher? I doubt it.
I thought it was hip hop hurray but that’s the NFL
Not more than any other song. More than most but not more than others. Cmon man.
Chillllllllllllll
Learning to get into music and I been using your vids just to study. And I have to say I feel like I learn so much watching your vids. How people can be the bad n good working with people. And the cutthroat of the industry in celebs real insightful. Thank you and keep up the good work. Can't wait to learn more as time goes on.
Ross you put in so much work on your videos man and each time you bring the same enthusiastic energy we are all familiar with,thank you for your videos man ❤
Jay Z never wants to see another black man do better than him. And yet the black community all look up to and admire him.
Thats why he is at the top. And the top whities like him.
@@stokkejanraggio9091 he’s illuminati anyway
edit;/ the guy below me who said Jay is really Boule knows his stuff👍
Black Boule*
Nas Said It Best: King’s Disease
Nah they don't
And now black people lets go talk alone after watching The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 376
Ya get me, ownership.
My brother!
What are you talking about?
How do you talk alone w other people lol
@@n3rds3y3vi3w he means to have a private conversation.
I have never seen any of your videos before, but the fact that you make a shoutout song for your fans, is enough for me to follow your channel ❣️
"...I'm sure Beyonce feels the same some nights" - This just killed me
Jokes aside a very thorough examination of various conflicts in the culture...RESPECT!!!
Thank you so much for this! I definitely wanted to see it!
"giving your cat a bath" 😂😂😂
Fam...that was NOT Sean Price. RIP. Try Buckshot
...and then directly dismissed Fab as some other rapper🤦♂️
God that pump it up remix was sick
No. No it wasn’t [+]
@@elplebeuchiha1996 it was. Tell me a song you class as sick? I guarantee it's probably ass
Yo would you mind listening to my song too? I just did a freestyle over T.I's Asap beat... I'd really like some more opinions if you dont mind?
"Who's the nicest life or lifeless on these mic devices and I don't write this" might low key be my favorite Jay-Z line, great rhyme pattern
Thank you for sharing.Hope everybody here becomes successful on RUclips.
Bro Joe budden one of the illest lyricists ever. He wasn't part of SH for no reason... These lil kids dnt kno man
People REALLY need to check Joe’s Flow. Joe just was with the wrong label who didn’t respect him or his music. (Why do labels insist on changing artists or try to put them in a box? Let creatives be who they are.) On another label, he would have been considered a BEAST top 10 MC. I think his name also hurt him. His name just sounds lame & not taken seriously as a ‘rap name’. Love Joe as a rapper and a person.
@@FaithFallRepentGraceRepeat trust me man to this day those mood muzik mixtapes and the other older tapes he out out are hiphop classics. Anyone who knows good lyrical hiphop would appreciate that shit. Ppl try clown him for pump it up but for a commercial club banger it was actually fiiire. The lyrics bang and the jus blaze beat speaks for itself. People love hating cos they see someone else well known hating on him. Bandwagon bruddas.
He has done pretty well for himself outside of music- everybody knows who he is
@@ThingsILikke Not everyone & I teach current & Hip Hop history....
@@nookex6058 They probably just don't know his name then. Him yelling at Akademics is a major meme thanks to MuchDank
already know this gonna be a banger
Definitely going to be a banger!
Great sunday gift bro
Thanks 🤜🤛
Your intro was insane, I love this concept of letting the fans choose. Instantly subbed! :)
First time listiner...dude your hilarious..you've earned yourself a new sub
6:57 I don't think Jay sabotaged Joe's career. See Joe Budden (the album) was NOT a "hit" or a success. It sold 95k first week back in 03, and barely went Gold (500k total sales). Remember this was the time when everybody was going platinum, especially in Def Jam: Jay-Z, DMX, Ja Rule, Method Man, Fabolous, N.O.R.E. Cam'Ron etc, etc, etc. Also good to remember this was the year 50 Cent's GRODT sold around 900k in his first week... compare that to Joe Budden's 95k and you still think it was a hit?
Joe Budden is the definition of a "one hit wonder". He had 1 record that indeed was EVERYWHERE, but failed to follow it up with another hit record and his album eventually flopped. So Def Jam moved on to the next, and eventually dropped him. Sad, but it's business.
Also Def Jam didn't force him to fit any role. That is bs he's always said to avoid taking accountability. Joe has tried making party/radio friendly music even after Def Jam, but failed to do so, look at Touch & Go in Halfway House or The Future in Padded Room. He tried getting clout by beefing with Jay-Z, Royce da 5'9", Lloyd Banks, The Game, Wu-Tang and others. He joined a rap group, even signed to Eminem and rode his penis for a long while before he decided to spit in face for clout, but even all that didn't get him any commercial success with his music. Don't get me wrong Joe Budden was lyrical and had bars, but he was never a "commercial success" and Jay-Z had nothing to do with that, maybe the Illuminati because that dude tried every trick in the book and it just never worked for him. Mood Muzik 2 is still one of my favorite mixtapes of all time.
📌 this please.
Why would Jay be jealous of Joe when Jay was smoking at the time?!?
Jay had a thing where if you didn’t go platinum, you gotta go... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
💯🎯 I couldn't have said it better.
I didn’t vote for this video to be made but I feel like it was made just for me. Brilliantly done, mate.
Like the shout outs. Nice beat too. ☝️😜🙌 love the accent too!
*"ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT. FIRE EM UP"* Yessss Mr. Trap, I will never forget that intro.
I have to wonder what would have happened if Joe Budden just said “sorry man I can’t afford that price for your verse, thanks anyway” .😂
Awesome video!😂
Yo, would you mind giving my song a listen i just dropped. Its over a T.i instrumental, I'd really appreciate your listen.
Kelso Presley bro this isn’t place for that stop 🛑 ✋🏿
@@t-god2439 while why not if it’s wack it’s wack or just don’t listen
@@t-god2439 Why?
That’s literally how I would’ve handled that situation.😂😂😂
Another absolutely brilliant video my guy
Trap lore ross still that nigga dropping fire quality youtube videos always worth a watch this nigga knows whats up
“I don’t have a dj clue” 😂😂I wanna use that but no one I know would get it
Your track is incredible, I love it, nice flow, beautiful beat
18:20 mood muzik 2 + 3 are filled with Jay-Z disses
This will be a banger
Damn.. I don’t wanna come off prejudice but for a white boy your definitely up on your hip hop lore and history.. topics like this were like old underground reddit and hip hop forum topics.. and I know your supporters gave you the idea but most would over look this topic. Major props boi
"For a white boy" boy u so cringe I'm Asian i know more bout rap than u ever will
Joe ain’t shit he can rhyme
@@FijiWater9-11 your comment is cringe his is fine.
@@user-od2ov1zv3j noo
that's what happens when you do the work. Ross tbh is a music journalist at this point, dude could totally write for big magazines but this 100% pays more lol
When you said like Sean Price, Buckshot was in the picture. Great video as always T.L.R.👍
This video is funny. I gotta give you respect man. You're dropping bars as you breakdown the story. That's a lot to retain.
What's crazy is that Joe and his crew love Jay-Z. The man damn near perfect in their eyes
Mal is part of the roc of course they fuck with Hov
@@israelgordon8280 people just want to listen to whatever news they hear not realizing that a lot of people that had beef with Jay-Z are in a good place with him right now and there’s a lot of mutual respect. Dame is one of the few who has a problem and that’s their personal issue.
It's just politics for Joe. You're dealing with fake people
Fire video 🐢🔥
Excellent commentary Trap Lore Ross.
I been watching ur vids for like 2 years & I just subbed yesterday 😂
Ross really went atw leaving in a 2 minute clip of him dancing to his own song, still at his desk lol
Definitely remember it on the Michael Vick Madden, the first I Madden I ever bought on my own. Also remember it on 2 fast 2 furious
Its ya boi Trap Lore Ross back at it again in front of the green screen BABY! lol
Now this is gonna be good
That picture wasn't Sean Price but rather Buckshot of Black Moon.
Short tempered Charlemagne 🤣
your flow is getting pretty insane tlr! hoping to see a vid on future or earl soon!
Bruh you look like Dylan Roof and I can’t unsee it.
Dylan Roof if he liked black people
Irishman Rants nah
my body is ready
In the movie ‘Backstage’ JayZ made comment something like “there’s a cat sitting at a table eating cereal waiting for that shot and he could potentially take my spot.” At the time the name around town was Joe Budden. LOOK IT UP.
Flows are getting better and better, Ross. Seriously. SALUTE!!!
Trap Lore Ross has some of the best one liners I have heard
Another banger I’m sure!!
”Give me coin and you could potentially have a say on a video, possibly” - TLR always in the trap hustling to make that gwap
Barzzzz lol great video as always!!♥️♥️
Love these videos, thanks Ross xx
Seriously if you’ve never heard Sean Price, he died a few years ago. Incredibly under rated
1/2 of Heltah Skeltah,
Go listen to Nocturnal: it’s on Spotify. Clans, posies, crews, and cliqs is my favorite.
Who’s Dat is a great smoking song
“And with other rappers..like Fabolous” 😂
😂😂
I haven’t watched ur videos in a minuteeee and your hair bro 😭😭😭 keep doin u dawg
he dyed it for the x video
@@cripplingcaffeineaddiction3847 lol thank u ! thought this man was going thru a midlife crisis
Worrrrd thank you for listening to the LoreGangs requests 🙌🙌🙌
"Talk To 'Em" was a Jay Z track that Joe put out when Jay Z came out of his fake retirement aka "i can't compete with 50/G Unit/Aftermath so I'll fall back"
Terrible beat but brutal disses about Jay
Joe Budden did his thing on that. Jay Zs retirement was funny. Dude was back in what seemed like a couple of months but could've been longer. Do you remeber the song he made when he came back then Lil Wayne Remixed it and KILLED IT?
@@xxweshmoke420dotcomofficia7 show me what you got.
@@2Muchpjp track was huge when it dropped
This song is whack af...even Joe said only the last few lines were directed at Jay (he’s on video saying so. He also goes on to admit that he was just expressing himself and that he didn’t have the accolades or accomplishments to be able to “come at Jay”. He then continues saying Jay is the best to do it.)🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
“Legendary lyricist Sean Price” white boy: shows a picture of Buckshot 😂😂
i also saw that but i wasnt sure . but whiteboyś shit rocks
Yes I peeped that... he's definitely off on that but lemme listen to the rest
That’s what you get when you have a culture vulture (literally looks like a vulture) doing video commentary on culture he’s not from, and no matter how much research he does, still doesn’t understand. Says “go at drake and live to tell the tale.”!? Don’t have to talk about how absurd that comment is. Kendrick and Pusha. That’s all that has to be said. Then says Jay shot his brother over a gold ring? Where did that story come from?
🤣🤣
He tried !
I can't be anymore subscribed. Awesome
Another absolute Banger Rosslord
And the only reason Budden’s “Pump it Up” was everywhere at that time is this little thing called “Payola”! I worked in the hottest night clubs in Atlanta at that time and no one was getting hype to that song in the clubs.
"No one was getting hype to the songs in the clubs"
Well duh, you worked in clubs in Atlanta. Why would Atlanta DJs play an up & coming NY rapper?
Atlanta is an exception, I guarantee you were still playing “Whistle While You Twerk” in 2002/3.
@@TCVB491 Yes! And I was sooooo sick of that song by the end that time period also!
"That's why we love Joe Budden, that's why we hate Joe budden and probably why he got fired from Complex..."
September Make 1 Year Since I Discovered Trap Lore Page a
And Still Loving It.
The rap at the end was dope and the beat
He looks like the creepy guy from the movie Charlie's Angles with Drew Berrymore lol
Yes!
I can’t fake I love buddden. He’s not perfect but who is!? Jbp represent.
We in here.....
oh
He beats women
Ross, you could make a podcast where you talk about video games, and rap. Maybe even other types of music, with guests such as: ordinary things, the girl who does your "this video was sponsored by", etc. I feel like this idea has a lot of potential.
Gotta love RUclips for allowing content that gives explanations like these. Because we would’ve had to piece together articles from the Source magazine for this
I remember Joe Budden actually signing to Rocafella Records, dropping Roc Cafe with Bleek and Sigel..... And then the label disbanding about 2 days later. Is my timeline all fucked up, or did that actually that happen?
Man look like he trying to make a jacket out of dalmatian puppies.
Hell yes new video!!!!
.always with the hot BARS!