On the former Whittlesea line, today's Middle Gorge station sits on the foot print of the original South Morang Station, I live opposite the old freight storage yard that sat beside the original South Morang Station. The South Morang station we know today was built in the middle of a paddock between Epping and Middle Gorge stations to cater for Westfield shopping centre and should have been called Mill Park station in my opinion. The stations Hawkstowe and Mernda were also not mentioned in the video, they run between Middle Gorge and Doreen. Loved the video, nice work.
Your facts were spot on. With alright animation. My only problem was the way you verbally presented it was a bit dry. Also quite a few place names were not said correctly. Apart from that it was excellent. You should be proud of yourself mate.
Appreciate the kind feedback. Looking to improve from there. I just tried something new and I'm very happy with the criticism. Improvement with the audio presentation and better animation would improve the video. Anyways looking forward to make more transport oriented content. Glad you enjoyed it.
Really great video aside from a couple of mispronunciations and it would have been cool if major waterways, such as the bay and the Yarra river were largely filled in for some context.
Apparently the first prototype electric tait trains were built around 1897 as they had one of those original prototypes preserved in the Newport workshops until it was unfortunately destroyed in the 2016 workshop fire. It was still am amazing piece of Australian heritage as it was a technological marvel at the time it was built and it was doing special public tour runs from the 1980s all the way up until it was destroyed in the fires. Anyways what’s also interesting is how a couple of years after the Kew branch line closed the new VicRoads head offices opened for operations on the same block of land where Kew station was so they pretty much replaced the station with a large tower block brutalist structure that still serves as VicRoads head offices to the present day! :)
Thanks for sharing information about our past train prototypes, that most of us will probably forget into the future. A lot of our railway building can be contributed to our past vision from those who really were looking ahead of their time.
True Believers NP! Though it’s likely that the Tait trains were in development for 20-30 years before the first passenger line was electrified so they most likely would of had a short section of electrified track somewhere during that development time period so they could do test runs of the prototype Tait trains! :)
@@Techno-Universal You commented twice XD. Yeah you're right, the world war delayed electrification unfortunately which is probably why it took so long to get those trains into service.
True Believers Yeah it apparently encountered an error the first time I tried to send it saying that it timed out when it actually sent so it was just a funny technical issue there! Anyways I also won’t be surprised if they metro tunnel project is done in phases just like the city loop project so they might first open the tunnels and the first station as soon as 2023-24 while the other stations would be opened later over the next few years however if they are doing everything at once then it all would be opened sometime between 2026-28 depending on the technical challenges they encounter! :)
@@Techno-Universal It's still too early to tell for the Metro Tunnel, glad you enjoy my videos. Any way I can further contact you, I wouldn't mind discussing more about transportation, it's hard to discuss everything into a youtube comment reply.
You forgot the short line that ran off of the outer city loop line between the Epping line and coburg line which went in to north Fitzroy park. I think they still have one of the original steam engines there.
Oh no, you're absolutely right I forgot adding that short branch down to Fitzroy. Though I don't think that branch lasted very long before it got closed. Thanks for noting the correction. Hope you enjoy my other videos, thanks for the comment.
So Kooyong used to be called 'North Malvern'? That makes sense. And Richmond Park? I thought it was called Survey Park or Burnley Gardens???? And there was a station called 'Cremorne' between Richmond & South Yarra.
I think that the Freight Trains that run Between 1879 to 1889 was the steam hauled carriages which was replaced by the swingdoor fleet when the swingdoors entered service in 1887.
passenger services out to south gippsland ceased in 1993, however the line was still used by sand trains to the Australian Glass Manufacturers siding in Nyora up until 1998.
Well made but you have mispronounced bittern station as burton and the stony point line was only closed in 1981 and reopened in 1984 but was only closed beyond Hastings as it serves the BHP now bluescope steel mill via Long Island junction (built 1963) and you also forgot that the line served the HMAS Cerberus naval base until the early 90s when the siding was closed
It was planned as a freight line and besides that point, it never saw any trains on it at the end of the day. Failed project by a big vision by one man's dream to have his own railway.
Pretty good, just when you mess up what your saying edit it out and re-record those bits, ik this video is a bit old so you might already be doing this but if you don't then that's something you could improve on. Otherwise very good video!
@@TrueBelievers Are you from Melbourne originally? Because if you didn't grow up pronouncing place names like Malvern, Beaumaris and Berwick, then I can understand you tripping over places like Prahran.
@@iceberg6633 Yeah technically the city-loop opened in stages and didn't all open at once. I think I set the date when the whole project was complete. That wasn't a mistake, I intentionally stated the whole city loop finished in 1985. Yes parts of opened as early as 1981.
The Adelaide one has been released now, enjoy! Also renamed the playlist to Animated rail history videos for easy viewing. That completes all of the Australian cities for now
CBD - stands for central business district and is generally referred to the central city part, the downtown area, the economical central hub of a city. In Melbourne our central hub general is located within, Flinders street, Spencer street, Spring street and Latrobe street. This is where the city railway loop is located and is where all the railways come into the city and back out again.
Sorry, but this clip is like the tale of the King's New Clothes, people here are seeing a poor example of animation and endowing upon it greatness. It is badly done, blocky, innacurate and in many places, just plain wrong. By not using a real map as a basis, with placenames and correct map topology, you have litte more than a Lego train map.
Check out the newer videos, they are an improvement from this one. You only learn by trying and my first attempts were pretty poor. That's why I look at the whole channel to see if they have improved or not. Not everyone's first attempt at something will turn out good. Still improving my craft at making videos.
@@TrueBelievers I think your depiction of Melbourne's rail history was interesting....and it was simple. Of course, being a long-time Melburnian helps in being able to follow it all.
On the former Whittlesea line, today's Middle Gorge station sits on the foot print of the original South Morang Station, I live opposite the old freight storage yard that sat beside the original South Morang Station. The South Morang station we know today was built in the middle of a paddock between Epping and Middle Gorge stations to cater for Westfield shopping centre and should have been called Mill Park station in my opinion. The stations Hawkstowe and Mernda were also not mentioned in the video, they run between Middle Gorge and Doreen. Loved the video, nice work.
True I didn't really cover the stations built in between the corridor. But it's worth mentioning them. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Pretty well made animation, i kinda love the explanation of why the railroads were created, good job man! Keep it up!
Thanks
@@TrueBelievers NP.
Your facts were spot on. With alright animation. My only problem was the way you verbally presented it was a bit dry. Also quite a few place names were not said correctly. Apart from that it was excellent. You should be proud of yourself mate.
Appreciate the kind feedback. Looking to improve from there. I just tried something new and I'm very happy with the criticism. Improvement with the audio presentation and better animation would improve the video. Anyways looking forward to make more transport oriented content. Glad you enjoyed it.
Really great video aside from a couple of mispronunciations and it would have been cool if major waterways, such as the bay and the Yarra river were largely filled in for some context.
Yeah thanks for the feedback. I did a better job with the Perth one. And looking to do Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide next.
@@TrueBelievers
Yes I just watched your perth one. The map in the background makes all the difference
Haven’t seen a Melbourne version of this before. Good Job
You are coo
Thanks
possibly one for Melbourne's tram network?
I probably could do that. Give me 100 years lol. ;)
Apparently the first prototype electric tait trains were built around 1897 as they had one of those original prototypes preserved in the Newport workshops until it was unfortunately destroyed in the 2016 workshop fire. It was still am amazing piece of Australian heritage as it was a technological marvel at the time it was built and it was doing special public tour runs from the 1980s all the way up until it was destroyed in the fires. Anyways what’s also interesting is how a couple of years after the Kew branch line closed the new VicRoads head offices opened for operations on the same block of land where Kew station was so they pretty much replaced the station with a large tower block brutalist structure that still serves as VicRoads head offices to the present day! :)
Thanks for sharing information about our past train prototypes, that most of us will probably forget into the future. A lot of our railway building can be contributed to our past vision from those who really were looking ahead of their time.
True Believers
NP! Though it’s likely that the Tait trains were in development for 20-30 years before the first passenger line was electrified so they most likely would of had a short section of electrified track somewhere during that development time period so they could do test runs of the prototype Tait trains! :)
@@Techno-Universal You commented twice XD. Yeah you're right, the world war delayed electrification unfortunately which is probably why it took so long to get those trains into service.
True Believers
Yeah it apparently encountered an error the first time I tried to send it saying that it timed out when it actually sent so it was just a funny technical issue there! Anyways I also won’t be surprised if they metro tunnel project is done in phases just like the city loop project so they might first open the tunnels and the first station as soon as 2023-24 while the other stations would be opened later over the next few years however if they are doing everything at once then it all would be opened sometime between 2026-28 depending on the technical challenges they encounter! :)
@@Techno-Universal It's still too early to tell for the Metro Tunnel, glad you enjoy my videos. Any way I can further contact you, I wouldn't mind discussing more about transportation, it's hard to discuss everything into a youtube comment reply.
You forgot the short line that ran off of the outer city loop line between the Epping line and coburg line which went in to north Fitzroy park. I think they still have one of the original steam engines there.
Oh no, you're absolutely right I forgot adding that short branch down to Fitzroy. Though I don't think that branch lasted very long before it got closed. Thanks for noting the correction. Hope you enjoy my other videos, thanks for the comment.
@@TrueBelievers All good my friend, And yes I enjoy these sort of videos .....
Thanks
You forgot the Webbs Gate Line to Fishermens Bend which Opened in 1986 and Closed in 1996
Great video. Interesting pronunciation of Prahran, Hawthorn & Warburton. Thanks. I loved it. 🧡
Glad you enjoyed it, I'll make an updated version with the correct pronunciations in the near future :D
The regional rail link joins the Ararat Ballarat and Maryborough lines at deer park station
Yeah correct.
Thank you very much for your outstanding review of the history and future of Melbourne's Rail Network.
Thank you, as of now, I'm working on the history video for Sydney's rail network video, coming out soon.
So Kooyong used to be called 'North Malvern'? That makes sense.
And Richmond Park? I thought it was called Survey Park or Burnley Gardens????
And there was a station called 'Cremorne' between Richmond & South Yarra.
Yeah the thumbnail I took off the internet. Not sure what it's dated at, but there were lots of changes in the past.
I think that the Freight Trains that run Between 1879 to 1889 was the steam hauled carriages which was replaced by the swingdoor fleet when the swingdoors entered service in 1887.
Great video as always! Keep making more!
Thank you
Good work on this video! Subbed to you about a few years ago,
Thanks for sticking it out with me, despite not uploading in a long time.
Victoria's train network has changed over the years and the Belgrave to Gembrook line reopened in 1962 as we now know it as Puffing Billy.
Yes the good old puffing billy line, heritage railways are excluded in the video but are a worthy mention though.
@@TrueBelievers Okay
Very good but, Spencer Street not southern cross and Warburton not wanumburt
I know, very minor mistakes. Anyways hope the animation was good.
True Believers it was, it was very informative
Cool. Didn’t know that the south Gippsland line was closed as late as 1993
yup
passenger services out to south gippsland ceased in 1993, however the line was still used by sand trains to the Australian Glass Manufacturers siding in Nyora up until 1998.
Fascinating! Thank you and well done!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing font of knowledge but would be so much better if station names were included!
What a education for people who don’t understand trains from Australia, could you do a Adelaide rail?
The Adelaide one is already done, it's on this RUclips channel, the playlists can be helpful to find it easy.
GREAT WORK
Thanks
you forgot the Mildura, Adelaide to Melbourne, Bairnsdale, Melbourne to Sydney, Portland and Heywood lines
This vid is about the history of the suburban network from 1854 to present, not the whole entirety of Victoria
Thanks, exactly what I would have said. A regional one would be pretty good one to make as well. I'll look into that.
That was well done! I learned a few things!
That's good to hear.
feed back you forgot the mont park line rosstown rail line and springvale cemetery line and hi big fan of you and the train man
Yeah I missed those few lines. Ross-town one never operated for passengers though, pretty much a failed project.
@@TrueBelievers Wow I had terrible grammar two years ago.
Great informative video, what was used to animate it?
Adobe After Effects
Spencer Street Melbourne largest station is now Southern Cross
Yeah they were name changes over time with many stations, that being the most current example.
this is like that thing made by londoners
That was the inspiration. Looking to improve though.
@Melbourne Trains Vlogs Lol true
You mean Londonist
Geoff marshall
Enjoyed the history.
Thank you!
Very cool video! It’s in Geoff maeshall style! Great video I liked
Thanks mate
I love this. Cheers!
Thank you
Thanks - that is very interesting!
Appreciate the kind words
Well made but you have mispronounced bittern station as burton and the stony point line was only closed in 1981 and reopened in 1984 but was only closed beyond Hastings as it serves the BHP now bluescope steel mill via Long Island junction (built 1963) and you also forgot that the line served the HMAS Cerberus naval base until the early 90s when the siding was closed
And the mispronunciation of "Prahran" as "Pyran" really bothered me... "Hawthun" and "Essedun" weren't much better.
I agree, it bothers myself too. I was inexperienced at the time to get the audio right.
Unfortunately both the first train lines in Melbourne are closed and converted to tramlines now
Better than a full closure at least, many railways had that fate sadly.
Good work but you missed the rosstown railway line !
It was planned as a freight line and besides that point, it never saw any trains on it at the end of the day. Failed project by a big vision by one man's dream to have his own railway.
@@TrueBelievers yes got the book a great read
Great video
I guess it was alright. Could of improved a few things, but overall I'm happy with it.
How long did it take to make this?
1 week
Mont park and necropolis lines too
when monington rail line closed why did half the stony point line go to
Yeah I believe there was a time the stony point line closed, then it was reopened shortly afterwards. Forgot to include its reopening.
What does CBD Stand for?
Central Business District
what did you use to animate this?
After effects
Pretty good, just when you mess up what your saying edit it out and re-record those bits, ik this video is a bit old so you might already be doing this but if you don't then that's something you could improve on. Otherwise very good video!
Yeah I've improved on that, check out my more recent videos, they're much better quality wise. :) Glad you enjoyed the video despite its flaws.
@@TrueBelievers Yes, will do!
Very good!
Thank you so much
Cool
Sydenham is now Watergardens
Yeah true.
What about the Melbourne Airport Link?
Not yet built at the moment. It's predicted to open by 2032.
Did... did you really say _Pyrahn??_ It's pronounced "Per-an" - "per" like in "performance" and "an" like in "animal".
Just gonna say I butchered saying that name, I should know better, anyways I've gotten better at pronouncing names.
@@TrueBelievers Are you from Melbourne originally? Because if you didn't grow up pronouncing place names like Malvern, Beaumaris and Berwick, then I can understand you tripping over places like Prahran.
@@RiffRaffMama. I am from western side of Melbourne do yeah not too familiar with the suburb names in the eastern suburbs.
Here’s A Error The Epping A.K.A South Morang And The Hustbrige Loop Line Wasn’t Built And Did You Say “Eltam”?
There's no mistake there. Point me where in the video it is exactly.
When You Said The City Loop Opened But Watch “Network Devlopment Plan” You Will See
@@iceberg6633 Yeah technically the city-loop opened in stages and didn't all open at once. I think I set the date when the whole project was complete. That wasn't a mistake, I intentionally stated the whole city loop finished in 1985. Yes parts of opened as early as 1981.
I had no idea the railway lines were so fragmented in the early days and many started by private enterprise.
Yeah it was pretty fragmented in the early days.
Well done
Thank you
Can you do Adelaide Rail line Please!
That’s the plan, will be the final video in the series.
@@TrueBelievers yay
The Adelaide one has been released now, enjoy! Also renamed the playlist to Animated rail history videos for easy viewing. That completes all of the Australian cities for now
@@TrueBelievers OMG THX
U mean Allowing the Heidleburg and whittle sea direct acces to the cbd
Yup exactly.
Pie-hran? Can you include and leave the labels on to give your presentation some meaning?
I must of been hungry when recording that. That was Prahran. yeah next time I may include more labels so this doesn't become an issue.
@@TrueBelievers Good job :)
Check out the Melbourne trains subreddit if you want to see interesting maps,videos and more
Thanks I just saw the new reddit subpage. Did you post my video there?
Of course i did and I can tell you a lot of people liked it
@@mattwakefield4147 Thank you
Ur welcome
Reminds of Geoff Marshall
That was the inspiration. Someone made a Paris one as well: ruclips.net/video/d3VH6R81KDI/видео.html
W video
Where is the stony point line?
I forgot to include it back when it reopened.
Has any one ever created a track map of the rail system?
Yeah if you mean track map for Melbourne's rail system, yeah check out vicsig. vicsig.net/index.php?page=infrastructure&district=metro
This is so gangster
Thanks.
Great history but didn't a number of the private companies merge until the late 1870s when the government took them over?
Yeah that's correct.
How'd You Make It?
I found a way to do the line animations in the program After Effects.
They were very industrious in the nineteenth century
Yeah they were.
The 20th century too
Gooooood
Yup, great.
What software did you use to make this?
After Effects
@@TrueBelievers Thanks :)
Q: why am i here
like seriously
im not talking about this youtube page, i mean why am i here again in melbourne. doing nothing
What are you talking about?
nice maps @@TrueBelievers
@@Michalastar Thank you, I plan to make better ones in the future.
Its pronounce "per-raan"
Yeah I know now, thanks I made this video awhile ago.
Woody Allen?
What is this weird cbd everyone is talking about?
CBD - stands for central business district and is generally referred to the central city part, the downtown area, the economical central hub of a city. In Melbourne our central hub general is located within, Flinders street, Spencer street, Spring street and Latrobe street. This is where the city railway loop is located and is where all the railways come into the city and back out again.
Where did you learn to speak English? Not in Melbourne.
Grumpy. Com everyone has strengths and weaknesses don’t be a bully....
Sorry, but this clip is like the tale of the King's New Clothes, people here are seeing a poor example of animation and endowing upon it greatness. It is badly done, blocky, innacurate and in many places, just plain wrong. By not using a real map as a basis, with placenames and correct map topology, you have litte more than a Lego train map.
Check out the newer videos, they are an improvement from this one. You only learn by trying and my first attempts were pretty poor. That's why I look at the whole channel to see if they have improved or not. Not everyone's first attempt at something will turn out good. Still improving my craft at making videos.
@@TrueBelievers Glad to hear it, I shall look to see if I can find the newer ones you mention.
@@TrueBelievers I think your depiction of Melbourne's rail history was interesting....and it was simple. Of course, being a long-time Melburnian helps in being able to follow it all.
@@wizzard5442 I'm thinking of creating an updated version very soon, so stayed tuned. It'll include information I miss and new information.