3 SERIOUSLY GOOD but FORGOTTEN 1980s London Pub Rock Bands!!

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @JimDriver
    @JimDriver  2 дня назад +6

    If you are interested, I made a video about Johnny Kidd and the Pirates that goes into more detail: ruclips.net/video/979OaDSzBe0/видео.html

  • @guitarzanbikes1862
    @guitarzanbikes1862 2 дня назад +3

    As a retired sound engineer (my ears are shot and I admit it!) it wasn't only Mick Green who played at Spinal Tap volume 11! I worked with far too many others who also did! What I will say though is Mick was one of the very few worth hearing at any volume! RIP Mick and another great video Jim!

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  День назад +1

      Thank you so much for the kind words. Much appreciated! Thanks for taking the time and please keep watching. Cheers!

  • @genki2genki
    @genki2genki 2 дня назад +2

    Love hearing about these bands and seeing pictures of the pubs where they'd play makes it even better.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад +1

      Thank you, very kind of you to say so. Sometimes, I think that I overdo the graphics but it's good to hear you say that they're still relevant.. cheers!

  • @davidbrowning8120
    @davidbrowning8120 2 дня назад +8

    Diesel Park West-a band that should have been huge, but sort of slipped through the cracks between baggy and grunge, not belonging to either movement. Still active, and released a new album earlier this year.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад +2

      Thanks for sharing that. I wasn't aware that they were still going. I'll have to check them out. Cheers!

    • @paulwilliams-rk6fy
      @paulwilliams-rk6fy День назад

      I thought they were shit

    • @stephendarling5094
      @stephendarling5094 День назад

      Saw DPW at the Sound Lounge Sutton couple of months ago, still a great Band.

    • @georgecrumb9099
      @georgecrumb9099 День назад

      Yeah some tastless wankers did.

  • @Kevin-tq9fr
    @Kevin-tq9fr 2 дня назад +2

    Another great vid Jim, I saw the pirates at the Nashville when the recorded Skull wars still got the album.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад

      Thank you very much the kind words: much appreciated! Thanks for taking part and please keep watching. Cheers!

  • @lionsgate1959
    @lionsgate1959 2 дня назад +2

    Lucky enough to see the Truth in Toronto..87ish. Fantastic band!
    Great video Jim

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад

      Thank you very much for the kind words: much appreciated! Thanks for taking part and please keep watching. Cheers!

  • @harlanthejester
    @harlanthejester 2 дня назад +2

    Cracking Video.. I had forgotten about "The Truth" great band but never saw them, DPW one of my favourite bands of that era saw them live and met the guys loads of times, fabulous people. The Pirates saw them at the Lafayette Wolverhampton 1977/78 my ears have still not recovered. I would personally add "The Dirty Strangers" to these..

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад

      Glad you enjoyed i and thanks for the kind words I've done quite a few videos like this, featuring lots of bands of this time. Please feel free to check them out… 😀
      Thanks for watching and sharing your memories. Cheers!

    • @paulwilliams-rk6fy
      @paulwilliams-rk6fy День назад

      The truth were a great band so we're 9 below zero

  • @spotontheroad1
    @spotontheroad1 2 дня назад +2

    Loved this weeks video. The Pirates were my first proper gig - unsupervised. Lol...Malvern Winter Gardens in about 1977. Awesome.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад

      Thank you very much! There was so much going on back then, I think the Pirates kind of slipped through the cracks. Thanks for taking part and for the kind words. Cheers!

  • @patrickward8144
    @patrickward8144 2 дня назад +2

    I have always been a massive fan of DPW, having all of their albums and seeing them so many times live locally it's untrue!!!!! How they never got the credit they deserved is a total mystery to me, but then again, I love Rickenbacker guitars!!!!!!!!

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  День назад

      Hi, thanks for sharing that. I appreciate you took the time to watch the video. Please stick around for more!

  • @65Lynchy
    @65Lynchy 12 часов назад +1

    All the best for Xmas, keep up the great videos Jim 👍

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  3 часа назад

      Thanks, you too! ho ho!!

  • @tattyshoesshigure5731
    @tattyshoesshigure5731 2 дня назад +2

    The Truth sound quite similar to The Style Council in that clip. The Pirates were a fantastic live band, I used to see them play at The Borderline just off Charing Cross Road & they were always terrific! ❤

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  День назад +1

      Thanks for sharing that. Please keep watching and commenting! Cheers!

  • @russcottee
    @russcottee 2 дня назад +2

    I saw the Pirates at Dingwalls (probably '77) - yes, it was deafening, but the classic line-up was a power trio in every sense. Keep up the good work Mr Driver 👍

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад +1

      Thanks for the info and for the kind words: much appreciated! Dingwalls was quite a large venue and the cricketers was about a third of its size. No, that was DEAFENING . 😀

  • @JonathanBlake-yj8bu
    @JonathanBlake-yj8bu 2 дня назад +3

    Great to see Wolfie Witcher Brew on the poster, i was in London as a Student between 1981-84 and only have a vague memory due to drinking too much cheap alcohol in those days but we used to watch them at the Caenarvon Arms at Camden Lock at the weekend, also remember seeing Atomic Rooster somewhere and Bert Jansch the folk guitarist from the Pentangle above the Cumberland Arms near Oxford Street?..anyway enjoy your vids, great stuff, so sad to see so many Pubs from those days closed

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад

      Thank you very much for those kind words and very interesting stories. I seem to recall that the great Rodney used to put on shows with Bert Jansch and also Davey Graham. Happy days! Cheers!

  • @johnrunion5357
    @johnrunion5357 2 дня назад +1

    thanks for this. you are making me aware of so very many new to me bands that i am truly interested it.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад +1

      That's very kind of you to say so: thanks! When I started, no one else seemed to be doing this and all these bands and all these venues were destined to be forgotten. That's obviously not a good thing and so well try and keep pumping out the videos!☺️ cheers!

    • @johnrunion5357
      @johnrunion5357 2 дня назад

      @@JimDriver well, you are doing a great job of keeping their memories and their legacies alive. before i discovered your channel i ONLY thought i knew about pub rock. thanks!

  • @HelenGarland-d2q
    @HelenGarland-d2q 2 дня назад +1

    Saw Dennis and the Boys many times!! Saw him this year in Spain with 9 below Zero. Fantastic. Too Mod🎉❤

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  День назад

      Thanks for taking part and for watching in the first place. Please stick around! Cheers!

  • @Stevenage.gooner.64
    @Stevenage.gooner.64 2 дня назад +1

    Great vid jim , seen 9 beloq a few times actuality my old work colleague was good friends with dennis and when 9 below did gig local my mate would dj for him he was dj when the late great desmond decker came to the herm in hitchin many years ago .. just a bit of trivia , keep up the great vids 👍

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  День назад +1

      Thank you very much! Hopefully, my memory banks will keep producing and we'll all die of nostalgia 😀😀

  • @johnspaulding1681
    @johnspaulding1681 2 дня назад +2

    The Pirates are still very well regarded Jim, it's a shame they never made it bigger....they were on Warner Brothers record label here in the colonies,but unfortunately were a band out of time...meaning that they were playing high energy rock 'n roll, rhythm and blues, and rockabilly ahead of the curve...but I still listen to them frequently, and Mick Green is still in my top 10 list of favorite guitarists...another great one Jim, thanks for the memories and wishing you and yours a very Merry Christmas...

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад

      A very Merry Christmas to you and thanks for the kind words! Yes, the arrival of punk and all that happened around that time here in the UK meant the Pirates were sidelined. And, to be honest, I'm not sure they really wanted to be big. Cheers!

  • @georgecrumb9099
    @georgecrumb9099 2 дня назад +2

    Two points on Diesel Park West 1. They have never ( ever) broken up and have consistently released brilliant albums ever since their debut in 89 with Presley Trap ( 2024) proving the point. 2.With respect to the other bands mentioned here none are in DPWs class despite no doubt being worthy of reappraisal.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  День назад

      Thanks for taking the time to give us the extra information. Please keep watching and commenting! Cheers!

  • @lazlokovacs2263
    @lazlokovacs2263 2 дня назад +1

    Thanks for the band tips. Mick Green was a great guitar worker, as was Chris Spedding in another key (Spedding's solo album "Hurt" is an underrated gem). The story that doesn't end: while you look at the big bands, others need to make ends meet to pay their bills.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад +1

      Here's and thanks for the info! You are dead right, the finances of the music industry was set up to line the winner's pockets. Cheers!

  • @duncanleith9172
    @duncanleith9172 2 дня назад +1

    My first taste of The Pirates was the track Don't Munchen It on the Hope & Anchor Front Row Festival album. What a great representation of the era that album was.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад

      Yes, indeed! The original video, as recorded, had mentioned of the front row festival was lost in the edit. Thanks for sharing that and please keep watching. Cheers!

  • @PWMoze
    @PWMoze 2 дня назад +3

    Blimey! Just when I thought you couldn't mention one more band I used to have a link to you dredge up Diesel Park West from the dim and distant.
    My band did a couple of support slots for them in '88 (ish). They were on a wave of hype and positivity at the time and, as hard as I tried to work out why they were getting so much attention (so I could do copy their formula, obviously), I really couldn't work it out. So obviously I mostly thought they were annoying! They attracted good crowds though.
    I'm now seeking out their old material so I can give them a more unbiased appraisal.
    Happy Crimbo Jim, best wishes for the new wossaname.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад +1

      All the best wishes right back to you and thanks for sharing your great stories. Cheers!

  • @DavidDally
    @DavidDally 2 дня назад +1

    Thanks Jim. Love the channel and fascinating to get some of the “inside track” on so many of the bands and venues from what I still remember as being the most exciting of musical times.
    Was a bit disappointed when Dennis Greaves swerved off into white-soul with the Truth (at pretty much exactly the same time as Paul Weller reinvented himself with the Style Council).
    Loved Nine-Below, particularly the interplay between Dennis and Mark “the Harp” Feltham and was at the Marquee for both the nights over which they recorded their live album. Over the years I’ve convinced myself I can hear myself shouting something at the start of Riding on the L&N.
    Saw them a couple of times more recently (ie this century!) at the Eel Pie club at the Cabbage Patch, and then at Hampton Pools where, bizarrely, the ticket included a free swim (of which I didn’t avail myself!)
    Would be interested to hear your (or anyone else’s) views on The Inmates who were my go-to band of the time; with the dream gig being the night Nine Below supported them at The Venue, Victoria.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад

      Thank you very much for the kind words and all that great info and your recollection of days gone by I did do a video about the inmates back in the dimming distant past: ruclips.net/video/RH4v3CGDj24/видео.htmlsi=PD4wR8TOwVxK3CZf

  • @raymondbonington9355
    @raymondbonington9355 2 дня назад +1

    Saw the pirates at the half moon Putney twice and I was impressed.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад

      Yes, a great band, especially on a good night. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Cheers!

  • @Lloyd1885
    @Lloyd1885 2 дня назад +1

    When you saw nine below zero in 78 they were called 'Stans Blues Band'....saw them at the apples an pears in Rotherhithe.
    Diesel Park West, geat band....they caught my eye because I liked a band called Diesel back then at worked at a place off the Edgware road called ....park west!
    Ive got a few Pirates tracks on tape somewhere
    Thanks for the great memories Jim, seasons greetings 👍🏽

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад +1

      And seasons greetings to you! Thanks for the kind words and the informative comment. Cheers (Ho ho ho!)) !!

  • @nicmancer7296
    @nicmancer7296 2 дня назад +1

    Great video. Thanks. Loved BOTH NBZ and The Truth, though it felt like they were formed to try and grab Jam fans who were looking for someone to follow if the Style Council wasn't their thing. DPW were a great band too but sometimes too much hype could stifle a band's progress as much as help them. I seem to remember DPW were very popular with the music press when they were starting out. The Pirates I knew nothing about, except Shakin' All Over, of course. Very interesting to hear their story.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад

      Thank you very much. I do appreciate the feedback and the kind words. Yes, it was a very interesting time back then and there was so much happening in the music world. We were so lucky, though of course we didn't realise it at the time. Thanks again. Cheers!

    • @nicmancer7296
      @nicmancer7296 День назад

      @@JimDriver You're welcome. It was a great time for music. Some much going on and so much variety. Always seemed to be a gig to go to or a new band to follow. We were very fortunate to be around in those times.

  • @patricktaylor2811
    @patricktaylor2811 3 часа назад

    Still got my copy of 'Pack Fair and Square' on the original label! Saw The Pirates at Dingwalls early 80s, brilliant, even if the pirate garb was a bit iffy.
    I'd make a claim for The Sid Presley Experience, too. Bought the singles, and saw them live in Liverpool around 1984...

  • @60sPsycheFanatic
    @60sPsycheFanatic 2 дня назад +2

    How many bloody Truths are there and they all had one thing in common very ordinary, Love DPW especially their Byrds stuff. No collection couldn't have a Pirates record. Keep your reminisces going.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад

      Thank you very much: I hope to, provided everything holds out 😀
      There's only one truth, as my old English teacher used to say. Thanks for taking the time to comment and please keep watching. Cheers!

  • @shaunw9270
    @shaunw9270 2 дня назад +1

    I was a 13 year old Mod in '82. Bought a couple of Truth singles. Would loved to have seen The Pirates. Diesel Park West , I only remember seeing the name .. I did get to see Nine Below Zero twice in more recent years, they were excellent 👌

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад +1

      Thanks for sharing that. I love you that everyone has their own experiences of life and music. Cheers!

  • @patchpeek
    @patchpeek 2 дня назад +1

    Diesel Park West were one of those unambitious bands of the 80s who you remember the name but none of their songs. Thank god for Oasis who turned up and showed this lot how it was done properly.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад +1

      Yes, oasis certainly had the knack of putting things in a way people could digest and enjoy them. I'm getting to like more and more, though I still enjoy listening to vans like diesel Park West. Thanks again for taking the time to comment. Cheers.

  • @mynameisnobody5295
    @mynameisnobody5295 17 часов назад +1

    First time I heard of Nine Below Zero was from Young ones when I would have been around 10 years old on repeat about 1985. The show had so many good bands including Madness and Motohead. This was a time when I would have move on from Like a Virgin LP and then Housemartins. Then was into Mod scence and repeats of Ready Steady Go which got me into R&B/Soul and Reggae/Ska. I was big on The Jam and Style Council and I still sometime play some of their LPs. The Jam early soul version as well as their type of punk scene. I prefer the live music than reacorded. I also like more punk as well. I just don't like music that feelsmanufactured. There must be thousand or milions of great perfromances that have lost from time. One thing I like about your channel I might hear of a band that I might never heard of. I think you already mentioned that before.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  3 часа назад

      Thanks for that fantastic comment and for the vote of solidarity. Please keep watching and commented. Cheers!

  • @finlaypaterson2144
    @finlaypaterson2144 2 дня назад +1

    The Pirates must have influenced so many other bands to have a go but they never hit the big time thanks Jim

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад

      Yes, the pirates were very influential especially in the early days of the 1960s when they were with Johnny Kidd. Cheers!

  • @MrBenmanning
    @MrBenmanning День назад +1

    Great choices the Truth were very style council and confusion a really nice record. Please in a future video feature Jimmy Edwards bands Time UK and sharp (featuring Bruce and rick of the jam) underrated band some good songs particularly puppets dont bleed...

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  День назад

      Thank you very much for that suggestion and for the kind words. Much appreciated!

  • @spumemonk11
    @spumemonk11 2 дня назад +3

    The Truth sound so much like the Jam/Style Council.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад +1

      Or vice versa 😀
      Thanks for taking the time to comment. Please keep watching!

  • @peterdemeteor8399
    @peterdemeteor8399 2 дня назад +1

    I lived in 2 squats within 100 yds of the Thomas a Becket between 1985 & 1989, but I only went in there once - to see Jackie Rawe (ex-Shakatak). She was pretty good tbf.
    However, I used to go in the Ambulance Station (squatted venue a few doors away) a lot. I saw The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu (later KLF) and many others.
    In fact, I deejayed there a few times, at a club night called 'Flying High' - before I flew too close to the sun & had to go into detox!

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад +1

      I remember the ambulance station, though I don't think I ever went. There's a similar venue in New Cross wasn't there, squatted pub, whose name I can't remember. Thanks for taking the time to share your memories and please keep watching!

    • @peterdemeteor8399
      @peterdemeteor8399 День назад

      @JimDriver I just heard an advert on Radio Caroline for a venue in Scotland where Diesel Park West are appearing soon - how spooky's that?
      Merry Xmas Jim btw!

  • @robinhazell6019
    @robinhazell6019 21 час назад +1

    Did you ever see DOGWATCH? This was around the late 70s and early 80s. I used to see them in a Pub called THE DOUBLE SIX in Basildon?

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  3 часа назад

      No, I'm afraid my path never crossed with that of Dogwatch but thanks for highlighting them for me. Cheers!

  • @saintgeorge6706
    @saintgeorge6706 2 дня назад +1

    Another great lost band The Mighty Lemon Drops.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  День назад

      Yes! I do remember them with affection. Thanks for bringing them to our attention. Cheers!

  • @OriginsReborn
    @OriginsReborn День назад +1

    Nine Below Zero!

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  День назад

      It was very cold yesterday. Cheers!

  • @Kevin-mx1vi
    @Kevin-mx1vi 2 дня назад +1

    Interesting to see Nine Below Zero playing Burns guitars. I'd love a Tri-Sonic like the lead guitarist has but I'll pass on the Bison bass.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад

      Thanks for the info. I must admit, I never noticed those details. Thanks for taking part and please keep watching. Cheers!

  • @hempsellastro
    @hempsellastro 3 дня назад +2

    I can confirm the Pirates were too loud. I saw them in Luton (cannot pin the year) in a moderate sized venue and it is the only concert I ever experienced where my ears physically hurt afterwards. They were very good (Mick Green was amazing) but the volume ruined the impact. It was so loud you couldn’t hear the music properly (never mind the H&S aspect). I appreciate the confirmation I was not just being a wuss.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад

      Yes, and when he played with Johnny Gustafson, they both have their arms turned up too loud. Happy DAZE....
      Thanks for sharing those great memories and for confirming my confirmation! Cheers!

  • @jhontaylor1246
    @jhontaylor1246 2 дня назад +1

    Diesel park west were a great band saw them a few times

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад +1

      Totally agree! Thanks for sharing that. Please keep watching! Cheers!

  • @dirkjenkinz595
    @dirkjenkinz595 2 дня назад +1

    I saw the Pirates a few times and never once did I think Mick's amp was too loud. Maybe you had a crap sound system. (BTW: check RUclips for their appearance at the Reading Festival. They are fricking awesome in it.)

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад +1

      Well, there you go. Glad we're not at all the same and have different thoughts and ideas. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Please stick around for more. Cheers!

  • @ramjac
    @ramjac День назад +1

    In my case it’s certainly true about the Truth, that fans of 9BZ didn’t get them, or even their direction before the Truth. Greaves on TOTP in a clown suit summed it all up. I was at the Marquee album recording date, you can hear a 17 year old me whistling as Greavesy announces the recording before opening up with Tore Down. Saw them several times at the Marquee, the Greyhound and probably Dingwalls.

    • @ramjac
      @ramjac День назад

      Had no interest in following the Truth tho.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  3 часа назад +1

      The way I looked at it, it was what Dennis was driven to do and who am I to argue with him? Very pleased he saw sense and got NZ back together! Cheers!

  • @SwampyJohnJohnB
    @SwampyJohnJohnB 2 дня назад +1

    What about Sudden Afternoon

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад

      What about them indeed? 😀
      Not sure our paths crossed, to be honest but thanks for the comment and I hope you stick around for more. Cheers!

  • @markwhite267
    @markwhite267 День назад +1

    Pubs, and Rock, and cover notes...

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  3 часа назад

      Sounds like a great combination to me. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Please keep watching and, of course, commenting! Cheers!

  • @pauldye4825
    @pauldye4825 2 дня назад +1

    Crazyhead were the other band on Food Records

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад

      That's right! How could I forget? They played the Cricketers a couple of times too, but not really my bag. Thanks for reminding us. Cheers!

    • @luxford60
      @luxford60 2 дня назад

      And one of their lyrics mentions Diesel Park West.

  • @RobRooster-u9n
    @RobRooster-u9n 2 дня назад +1

    I’ve got to agree, Mick Green was FuQing loud, I did sound for the Pirates a few times late in the game when Johnny Gustafson was on bass and at one point Jeff Britain ( Who drummed in the Wild Angels with me )
    Mick used a Messa Boogie combo on top of a 4x10 and it was an exceptionally loud rig.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  День назад +1

      Great memories, thank you for sharing them! Funny enough, I was going to mention that Jonny Gustavsen / Jeff Brittain era but I didn't really have much that was very positive and different to say about those years and the Pirates, so it ended up cut out! Cheers!

    • @RobRooster-u9n
      @RobRooster-u9n День назад

      @ Hi Jim,
      Actually you’re not wrong mate, Gustafson was a bit of dick truth be told.
      Jeff is still above ground but I’ve not been in contact with him for a good few years, he went to live in Spain and put a band together with Graham Foster ( Night Train / Little Sister ( With Gary Brewer) he’s back in the U.K. I believe and he was looking for a band …
      Anyway,
      Merry Christmas Jim, and a happy new year!
      Regards,
      Rob.

  • @donfeeney6153
    @donfeeney6153 2 дня назад +1

    Geezer.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дня назад

      Ha ha! I'm assuming that's a good thing and if so, thank you very much. Cheers!

  • @paulwilliams-rk6fy
    @paulwilliams-rk6fy День назад +1

    A forgotten band and very underrated was the prisoners

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  День назад

      Yes, I've made at least two videos that feature the prisoners, which I presume you haven't seen! Cheers!