I think its a curse being born into this for any one it all looks like a dream till i see this its nothing but greed and power Kosem is so strong strong and she has so muc courage in her what a woman
It was worse in real life. Those boys would be locked up from a very young age, and if the one who was next in line for the throne ascended, he knew nothing about governing. And this scenario repeated itself until the Ottoman Sultanate was dissolved.
Later it changed in abdlmjed area ther wear no more lock up the prince and thay can leave freely and thay can get married and have children @@Pashasmom1
Poetic justice - one who executed his subjects for drinking died of cirrhosis. One who grew up watching his mother for years holding the state together until he came of age, learned nothing about governance from her. One who repealed the edict to prevent killing brothers himself had not even one son left to call his own.
Now kosem has hidden treasury also just like safiye sultan, that time she saved Ahmed bcz only he could give her power now he didn't support murad because he is taking her power
Maybe the mad sultan is cursed because of what he did, history says not all of his children lived, most of them are stillbirths and others are short lived
Well the Hagia Sofia was the religious and spiritual centre of the Greek Orthodox Church until the conquest by the Ottoman Empire who turned it into a Mosque. Kemal Atuturk turned into a museum so there would be no arguments between Muslims and Christians however, all the artwork was destroyed by the conquerers
Definitely not. She's overbearing and arrogant; doesn't know her place and role. She wants to rule and have things done HER way and is incapable of letting others take the rein. She rationalizes everything by doing it "for the state" and emotionally manipulates if she gets caught or is called out by anyone, whether it be by her son, Atike, etc.
MURAD still cared about his mother despite the fact she tried to enthrone him. kosem desire for power is literally a poisionus venom. it struck and destroy everyone close to her, especially kasim
Kosem is overbearing and arrogant; doesn't know her place and role. She wants to rule and have things done HER way and is incapable of letting others take the rein. She rationalizes everything by doing it "for the state" and emotionally manipulates if she gets caught or is called out by anyone, whether it be by her son, Atike, etc.
The fact, Murad is living with and trust snakes too much - Yusuf and Sinan He should listen to her mother. No matter how, Sultan Kösem was all to protect her children and dynasty
I laughed with mehmed and osman but I never thought i would bawl with kasim the way i did with hurrem’s bayezid 😭😭 the grief and trauma ibrahim’s actor displayed helped the scene top notch!!
Pity.....kosem's Greed to power ended up in pushing her own children to death. Murad had no option than killing his own brothers for mother's mistakes.
Who said Sultan Murad was so cruel & had no mercy in heart. I would kill sultana Kosem if i were in the place of Sultan Murad. In the disguise of protecting state kosem's greed of being in the centre of power was disrespectful to sultan Murad. Because only the Sultan can be in the centre of power,not a valida sultan.
so many annoying ads. very disgusting. and the subtitle are messed up. who even approved them? even i being a person of a different language cant intepret the real setntence said better than these subtitles
Khurram is Persian for « the joyful one » and it is pronounced in Turkish “Hürrem”. So the fact that they pronounced his name this way is correct since they are Turkish. Hürrem (wife of Süleyman) is also named “Khurram”. Written خُرّم but pronounced Hürrem (there is no Kh sound in Turkish + vowel harmony changes the u in ü)
Sad times. Kosem always scheming how to dethrone Murad. Wanting to be in control. Her obsession leads to the death of Kasim and Murad. I can't believe the Doctor agreed to carry out Kosem's wishes and he actually starts poisoning Murad, without any remorse. They just go around killing each other as well.
You need to read history and judge in the terms of their times not ours. At that time, living 50 years was old, a lot of disease were around and also rivals. The most dangerous thing was the continuity of the dinasty no matter what and Kosem realized when Mustafa gone mad. So, it is not about her greed for power. And she had her political power but she was surrounded by a mans world. Viziers and pashas, jannisaries etc. That is a series where some things are fictional
@@fanicadumitrascu7996 Murad suffered from cirrhosis, decease of the liver. Which was manageble with the treatment such as herbal. Murad could have survived more years if Kosem had not told the Dr to give him poison.
@@XMicroBio this is fictional, nobody knows what was happened inside Topkapi Palace. There is no written testimonies about the real life of sultans because it was forbidden. Watch the series at it is. Even the dresses are not otyoman and are not from that time. They are more like in 18th century.
shahjahan never meet sultan murad one of his embassidor met him turkish serial is too much to manipulate real story,mughal empire was stronger than ottoman at that time
haci aga was old stupido too ..... nothing noticed .... and after did not help to valide sultana !!! coward !!! he had to hide both princes earlier for sure if some error happened
If Murad was given the chance to govern the state in peace as he wished he wouldnt have been so cruel. This is what happens when you try to control adult children regardless who they are.
Murad should have killed kosem, not kasim. Kosem is horrible and she always says how she kept the dynasty alive but her actions nearly killed it. She is so stupid and hingrh for power.
Was shahjahan a goldsmith like Suleman? I wonder. But shahjahan with his empire from Afghanistan to most of present tamilnadu in India and an economy that the current superpowers would not even come close to came all the way from Delhi to the ottoman territory in laughable. This is how they have distorted history just to make the ottomans look superior. They are both respected on their own virtues. The landmass that shahjahan ruled is almost equal or even more than the ottomans. Only the ottoman empire was spread across three continents. The whole area of India itself is regarded as a subcontinent not to mention the other lands shahjahan had under him.
Uhh,,,,where sultan murad is going to war to fight with enemy on the other hand kosem is planing to kill his sons murad 😅,,,,kosem deserve a abominable die and she suffered for.......... Sultan Murad is a braver,stronger and the scare of enemy.May Allah give him jannah
If Murad still wanted Ibrahim killed, then yes Kosem had to end Murad's plan. To stop Murad, what do you think she could do? Planned to impersonate Murad but failed and lost Kasim....so?
Kosem is a traitor,,,, the ended of kasim, and she is the cause of sultan murad cruel death,,,,she did everything for power,,,,,,but sultan ahmed khan era,,she was most precious. Now, she is a cruel person and will be published for this one time,,,,,,,,,Ahh,Sultan murad was most powerful sultan, if he would alive the history of muslim can be difference 😢😢
It's easy for that cunning Persian man to poison Murad's mind... He's an alcoholic at this point and traumatized his ownself as well as was victim of many traumas. After all, the Persian is enemy with a friendly face. I thought it was too abnormal this sudden friendship after Murad took over the people and land of the Persian.
Idk what they are showing in series totally opposite of history same they did with hurrem's series but i'm happy for one thing that ottoman empire end like other empires thanks to Allah they all are so cruel
omg!? the translation is atrocious. he instead of she constantly. who is doing such a crappy job? check out the five minutes around 40:36- one mistake every plate. valide translated to governor? i can help with this, call me. kosem is too important for this to be happening- when we need every instrument of education to understand what is going on in our world. education is key to the future and peace- bad translating is not. google translate fail? is AI involved in this? i wager-yes.
Shahjahan is a king himself, he would never do that i.e , Shehenshah e hind ,also they never met personally instead exchanged the ambassadors, portrayed inappropriately in the series
I can't believe how easily Murad loses trust in people, but immediately trusts people who are/could be Persian spies 😅
It's a curse to be born a prince in this series.
yes those era
I think its a curse being born into this for any one it all looks like a dream till i see this its nothing but greed and power Kosem is so strong strong and she has so muc courage in her what a woman
It was worse in real life. Those boys would be locked up from a very young age, and if the one who was next in line for the throne ascended, he knew nothing about governing. And this scenario repeated itself until the Ottoman Sultanate was dissolved.
Later it changed in abdlmjed area ther wear no more lock up the prince and thay can leave freely and thay can get married and have children @@Pashasmom1
Sultan Murad dressed handsomly, I loved his gorgeous crowned helmet. The whole procession is magnificent
The person that's translating is high on opium😅
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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😂😂😂😂😂😂
I died when he translated,aghas as trees😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Loved the conversation between Atik and Murad.
Poetic justice - one who executed his subjects for drinking died of cirrhosis. One who grew up watching his mother for years holding the state together until he came of age, learned nothing about governance from her. One who repealed the edict to prevent killing brothers himself had not even one son left to call his own.
Deep
And threw her in prison.. he has really spiraled
Finally sinan got caught🙂
When ever halil pasha i remember dilruba 😂😂 , rejected for marriage
Hhhhh😅😅😅 just remind me😊
Hhhhh😅😅😅 just remind me😊
Kosem lost almost all of her children during her lifespan
Not almost..she did.
@@random_thoughts5343thank God ibrahim gave her a grandson to continue the line.
Fix the translations, they are terrible in this episode. Half of the time nothing makes sense.
Meat.
Now kosem has hidden treasury also just like safiye sultan, that time she saved Ahmed bcz only he could give her power now he didn't support murad because he is taking her power
I don't know why but its feeling like Yusuf is cutting off the roots of ottoman empires ...so they had no one to stand again Persians 😂
So sinan pasha was caught but he'd done enough damage... He managed to get sultan murad and kosem kill each others...
Maybe the mad sultan is cursed because of what he did, history says not all of his children lived, most of them are stillbirths and others are short lived
I swear these translations are wrong, Murad became Hunkar, Valide became father, governor, mother-in-law, and others.
Yup, awful translations.
Yeah, I noticed that too. It's angering me honestly.
They decided to use Google translate.
This translation is horrible indeed and I'm thinking of no longer following this series.
ye fr tho
Kosem has become safiye sultan, she try dethroning him at every opportunity like safiye did
Only this time he deserves it
Well the Hagia Sofia was the religious and spiritual centre of the Greek Orthodox Church until the conquest by the Ottoman Empire who turned it into a Mosque. Kemal Atuturk turned into a museum so there would be no arguments between Muslims and Christians however, all the artwork was destroyed by the conquerers
The Greeks have never forgotten this.
I thought it was a catholic church..?
@20PINKluvr no it was not.
1:42:51 notice how aghas became trees? (literal translations-)
I burst out laughing, reading that 😂😂😂
52:42 Kosem forgot about Geverhan right quick jeez
We can't burry ourselfs with dead one's
Sinan pasha makes my blood boil
For real, me too
Every1 getting only not he i fedup now
😂😂
Kosem is really a great mother and a sultana
Lora mera
Definitely not. She's overbearing and arrogant; doesn't know her place and role. She wants to rule and have things done HER way and is incapable of letting others take the rein. She rationalizes everything by doing it "for the state" and emotionally manipulates if she gets caught or is called out by anyone, whether it be by her son, Atike, etc.
Ibraham dug a grave in the tent and no one fell in it
I adore Melek Kalfa. She is not Nigiar Kalfa but, I like her...
MURAD still cared about his mother despite the fact she tried to enthrone him. kosem desire for power is literally a poisionus venom. it struck and destroy everyone close to her, especially kasim
Kosem is overbearing and arrogant; doesn't know her place and role. She wants to rule and have things done HER way and is incapable of letting others take the rein. She rationalizes everything by doing it "for the state" and emotionally manipulates if she gets caught or is called out by anyone, whether it be by her son, Atike, etc.
When will Sinan Pasha finally get his punishment???
He will, and it's most unsatisfying. I had hoped they would torture him first.
I had read about the meeting between Murad and Shah Jehan's ambassadors. Not Shah Jehan himself. They helped each other to accomplish their goals.
He can't do this... after all he is his brother...😭😭😭
Kosem is so cruel, I feel bad for sultan murad
The fact, Murad is living with and trust snakes too much - Yusuf and Sinan
He should listen to her mother. No matter how, Sultan Kösem was all to protect her children and dynasty
I laughed with mehmed and osman but I never thought i would bawl with kasim the way i did with hurrem’s bayezid 😭😭 the grief and trauma ibrahim’s actor displayed helped the scene top notch!!
Pity.....kosem's Greed to power ended up in pushing her own children to death. Murad had no option than killing his own brothers for mother's mistakes.
please make corrections, the clothings are from Safavids Iran and they calling it ruler of India? 1:41:21
Poor sultan Murad,Repeatedly betrayed by the loved ones...
Kosem is blinded by power... it's like Murad is not her son....
Ya she is horrible
who made those subtitles, google translate? fix it, it's impossible to watch the thing
If Sultan Murad IV still alive and watching this series? He'll have the translator beheaded. And can't even finish the whole series 😅😂😂
Geez, they didn’t give prisoners a blanket or pillow? Just cold stone? That’s really cruel 😮
Who said Sultan Murad was so cruel & had no mercy in heart.
I would kill sultana Kosem if i were in the place of Sultan Murad.
In the disguise of protecting state kosem's greed of being in the centre of power was disrespectful to sultan Murad.
Because only the Sultan can be in the centre of power,not a valida sultan.
Yh
kosem should wait a little longer with thinking of kasim .... if murad is sick, it takes a couple months and way will be opened
Well we can see why Murad died with all that drinking...
great movie but the translation is wrong on alot of this movie😅
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Translation in this episode is horrible
The music at 34:00 can someone please tell me the name ??
Zamansiz (Timeless) by Aytekin Atas
Omg what happened to translations in this episode
What the name of this place?
Topkapi Palace
Bt did anybody observe that kosem is scared of Murad nd that's y she kill him
so many annoying ads. very disgusting. and the subtitle are messed up. who even approved them? even i being a person of a different language cant intepret the real setntence said better than these subtitles
It's not Muhammad hurrem Shah...it's Muhammad khurram shah(Shahjahan) from India....
But Shah Jehan did not meet with Murad, his ambassadors did.
You are right
Khurram is Persian for « the joyful one » and it is pronounced in Turkish “Hürrem”. So the fact that they pronounced his name this way is correct since they are Turkish. Hürrem (wife of Süleyman) is also named “Khurram”. Written خُرّم but pronounced Hürrem (there is no Kh sound in Turkish + vowel harmony changes the u in ü)
Sad times. Kosem always scheming how to dethrone Murad. Wanting to be in control. Her obsession leads to the death of Kasim and Murad. I can't believe the Doctor agreed to carry out Kosem's wishes and he actually starts poisoning Murad, without any remorse. They just go around killing each other as well.
You need to read history and judge in the terms of their times not ours. At that time, living 50 years was old, a lot of disease were around and also rivals. The most dangerous thing was the continuity of the dinasty no matter what and Kosem realized when Mustafa gone mad. So, it is not about her greed for power. And she had her political power but she was surrounded by a mans world. Viziers and pashas, jannisaries etc. That is a series where some things are fictional
@@fanicadumitrascu7996 Murad suffered from cirrhosis, decease of the liver. Which was manageble with the treatment such as herbal. Murad could have survived more years if Kosem had not told the Dr to give him poison.
@@XMicroBio this is fictional, nobody knows what was happened inside Topkapi Palace. There is no written testimonies about the real life of sultans because it was forbidden. Watch the series at it is. Even the dresses are not otyoman and are not from that time. They are more like in 18th century.
What happened to kosems other children Fatma and ayse sultan
Sultan mustafa is older than haci agha 😂😂😂
shahjahan never meet sultan murad one of his embassidor met him turkish serial is too much to manipulate real story,mughal empire was stronger than ottoman at that time
They want to over glamorize Turkey by having the Sultan of India bow to the Sultan of Turkey.
Ibrahim is wearing Suleiman's shirt at 37:30
Please find a good translator
So many painful death in this series, I guess more than in the King Sulaiman The Magnificat Century.. 😢
Translators are sarhoş! 🤦🏻♀🤦🏻♀🤦🏻♀🤦🏻♀🙄🙄
How coming mother-in -law the biological mother for him ahhhaa this translation so funny 😂
haci aga was old stupido too ..... nothing noticed .... and after did not help to valide sultana !!! coward !!! he had to hide both princes earlier for sure if some error happened
One more coffin leaving this cursed palace.😢😢😢😢😢
What on earth happend with the translations -.- gosh. Horrible.
Poor ibrahim 😢
If Murad was given the chance to govern the state in peace as he wished he wouldnt have been so cruel. This is what happens when you try to control adult children regardless who they are.
Nah He still had alot of built up anger and resentment...he still would have been cruel and ruthless...
Right! She was always trying to pursue his throne and he always had to prove that he is the Sultan. She should have taken kasims place tbh
Madame looks like from Hurrem Sultan's Genes !
37:00 Poor Ibrahim..... 😭
Kemankeş = violinist
It isn't the right translation for this series 😂😂
I’m glad Sinan pasa exposed kosem and kasim
Sultan murad said everyone waiting for my death we'll I know that feeling very very well we r so similar
That is not a good thing imo
@@JackienoO no is not
Haye dont talk such 😢you alright cheer up take care 🎉
😂😂😂😂mother become father 😅😅😅
In the first episodes, when Kösem was getting married to Ahmed, the translation said : you are now mother and wife 😒
Does Atike learns who really killed silahtar?
I think she always suspected her mother but didn’t dare say
That was payback for goverhan
i felt so sorry for kaşim😕(he was my fav😭)
Mine too😣😢
Very heartwrenching when his spirit came to Kosem and said his final words to her
Who did translate this episode😂😂?
The earthquake save Ibrahim 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Murad should have killed kosem, not kasim. Kosem is horrible and she always says how she kept the dynasty alive but her actions nearly killed it. She is so stupid and hingrh for power.
Was shahjahan a goldsmith like Suleman? I wonder. But shahjahan with his empire from Afghanistan to most of present tamilnadu in India and an economy that the current superpowers would not even come close to came all the way from Delhi to the ottoman territory in laughable. This is how they have distorted history just to make the ottomans look superior. They are both respected on their own virtues. The landmass that shahjahan ruled is almost equal or even more than the ottomans. Only the ottoman empire was spread across three continents. The whole area of India itself is regarded as a subcontinent not to mention the other lands shahjahan had under him.
So scary and sad ,,,,
Uhh,,,,where sultan murad is going to war to fight with enemy on the other hand kosem is planing to kill his sons murad 😅,,,,kosem deserve a abominable die and she suffered for.......... Sultan Murad is a braver,stronger and the scare of enemy.May Allah give him jannah
So kosem is saving Ibrahim by killing murad..? They’re both her blood
Difference is she knows one will obey her and the other takes her power
no she didnt want to end murad, he would send him to mustafa thats all.
@@acapelllah2502 so she only wants power and doesn’t care about her children, thats why i don’t really like her
When did you see Kosem planned to kill Murad!???
If Murad still wanted Ibrahim killed, then yes Kosem had to end Murad's plan. To stop Murad, what do you think she could do? Planned to impersonate Murad but failed and lost Kasim....so?
This translator has me so confused.....
It's showed totally wrong history & dishonored Emperor Shah Jahan. Indian Emperor never met with Sultan Murad.
Kosem is a traitor,,,, the ended of kasim, and she is the cause of sultan murad cruel death,,,,she did everything for power,,,,,,but sultan ahmed khan era,,she was most precious. Now, she is a cruel person and will be published for this one time,,,,,,,,,Ahh,Sultan murad was most powerful sultan, if he would alive the history of muslim can be difference 😢😢
Sinan pasha has loyal servant thsn Sultan Murad
It's easy for that cunning Persian man to poison Murad's mind... He's an alcoholic at this point and traumatized his ownself as well as was victim of many traumas. After all, the Persian is enemy with a friendly face. I thought it was too abnormal this sudden friendship after Murad took over the people and land of the Persian.
They should all learn CPR..
Idk what they are showing in series totally opposite of history same they did with hurrem's series but i'm happy for one thing that ottoman empire end like other empires thanks to Allah they all are so cruel
Aww, shiiii... apparently she is the reason for the earthquake.
No place for murderers in jannah...
Huh my father ahhahha
А по-русски 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
Ibrahim 2:06:10
the worst subtitles of all the episodes, so far.
At least, check the images
Absolutely terrible subtitles in this episode. Also, throughout the series its unbelievable how incompetent the guards always are.
omg!? the translation is atrocious. he instead of she constantly. who is doing such a crappy job? check out the five minutes around 40:36- one mistake every plate. valide translated to governor? i can help with this, call me.
kosem is too important for this to be happening- when we need every instrument of education to understand what is going on in our world. education is key to the future and peace- bad translating is not.
google translate fail? is AI involved in this? i wager-yes.
open became hungry
Очень хорошо глаза
The. Best.......violinist....... i don t see Mozart?...
When Sinan will be punished
Joke of the series at 1:41:00
Shahjahan is a king himself, he would never do that i.e , Shehenshah e hind ,also they never met personally instead exchanged the ambassadors, portrayed inappropriately in the series
The Persian guy yogurt what ever his name is is poisoning Murad mind
Still he is killing freely!! Sinai is unrealistic character!
What an horrible translation 🤦♀️
Kosem baaaad