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  • @JoeyCarbstrong
    @JoeyCarbstrong  Год назад +95

    Thank you for tuning in everyone. Share your thoughts in the comments below!
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    • @ryan9166
      @ryan9166 Год назад +5

      @LastKarmicLife Don't worry it wouldn't get through to them anyway, not an ounce of a brain cell between them if they think that

    • @VeganV5912
      @VeganV5912 Год назад +1

      @LastKarmicLife Jeffrey🤡🦠🍖🔴Dahmer says the same thing. NecrophiIe. 👈Hint🤡🦠🍖🔴hint !! CuItfoIIowing !! Meatflake !! Snowflake !! DingIe🤡berry 🙄. And fat deposits clog your arteries in your brain and in your heart and liiimp👇😩Dick eating the dead, over a 5 minute burger or chicken etc. Put the knife🤡🔪🦠🍖🔴..down. RUclips delicious vegan food. You don’t stab your dog 🤥🦠🍖🔴🐶. Hyp🤡crite or a vegan ?? Which side of history are you on ?? 🤷🏼‍♂️
      ‘Pig Head Time-lapse’. RUclips it🤮. No fibre if you eat dead corpses. Stays in your body and rots away. You’ve got flat teeth and long long stomachs you’re not supposed to eat corpses. And fat deposits clog your arteries in your brain and in your heart and liiimp👇😫🦠🥩🔴Dick. Only humans have plaque 🧟‍♂️🦠🍖🔴. No other animal has plaque and they don’t brush their teeth, and they’re fine !!! Vegans don’t have plaque. GorilIas 🦍 are Herbiiivores !!!. They never ever eat animaIs and they are huge. 1% cancer in the wild✅❤️⭕️💪😬🦍. Vegans have 4% cancer. And meat eaters etc 51% death rate !!! That is extremeIy high over a frigging 5 minute burger or chicken etc !!! Fat blocks your arteries !!....

    • @VeganV5912
      @VeganV5912 Год назад +1

      Buddhist monks, they don’t eat meat, they are plant-based, vegan. ✅❤️😬. They don’t eat corpses like a follower. Hint hint 🧟‍♂️🦠🍖🔴. Fat blocks your arteries, no fibre, stays in your body and rots away. Peer reviewed scientific fact.
      CuItfoIIowing !! Meatflake !! Caveman !! Cretin !! You don’t stab your dog 🐶. Hyp🤡crite or vegan ?? Which side of history are you on ??. Einstein and Nikola Tesla and Plato and Leonardo da Vinci... vegan ✅❤️🤓.

    • @YourHomieNextDoor
      @YourHomieNextDoor Год назад +2

      love ya joey, your work is so important, keep saving the innocent individuals.
      #untileverycageisempty

    • @letransformateur6477
      @letransformateur6477 Год назад

      @LastKarmicLife Not appart, so its part of the NWO right? I knew it! (joking haha)

  • @williambell04
    @williambell04 Год назад +148

    I love these street activism vids. It’s like a “how to deal with stupid arguments” training video.

    • @hiking1388
      @hiking1388 Год назад +3

      Really appreciated how he handled the "but lions tho" tangent that (inevitably) comes up! (Seriously, whether it's a video on youtube or in real life chatting with friends, just start a 2-3 minute timer...)

    • @williambell04
      @williambell04 Год назад +3

      @@hiking1388 I’m surprised they didn’t mention canine teeth 🤣

    • @hiking1388
      @hiking1388 Год назад

      @@williambell04 they're young, perhaps they haven't heard that one yet 😛

    • @tyler2102
      @tyler2102 Год назад

      The thing is none of you are morally better than anyone that eats meat, not at all. You all support child labour and the slave trade but yeah go off on how your morals are better lol.

    • @moufbreava
      @moufbreava Год назад

      ​@@hiking1388 why is it bad we kill animals for a purpose?

  • @roselaura-gracesing4968
    @roselaura-gracesing4968 Год назад +47

    I was 13 when I murdered a chicken. It appeared to me the chicken did not want to die. First our leader told me to cut their head off with an axe. I did it. Their body was warm when I cut it open and we were suppose to cook it and eat it. I could not eat the chicken after. I was young and got criticized by so many people including my own family for not eating meat. I didn’t have the words I do today but I knew that chicken was someone and I did something bad by killing them! I liked the taste of chicken and many times I would go out or stay at a friends house and they would have a lot of meat and I was hungry and it looked and smelled good but I just could not eat it because of what I knew. People would say that it is just a phase and I will eat animals again. Now I am still learning about veganism at the age of 35! I didn’t even know about the milk industry 😢. Thanks for teaching me Joey. #veganfamily #veganforever

    • @bengilkes7676
      @bengilkes7676 Год назад +3

      Wow! Do your family still criticise you?

    • @donolonisa5787
      @donolonisa5787 Год назад +1

      Good, be a vegan you want to be, as Iam going to be a Carnist

    • @discursion
      @discursion Год назад +8

      @@donolonisa5787Proud to cause suffering, eh?

    • @donolonisa5787
      @donolonisa5787 Год назад

      @user-gu9yq5sj7c What are you going to do about it

    • @discursion
      @discursion Год назад

      @@donolonisa5787 No, you're just too dumb to understand that difference. Big nuance.

  • @saulgoodman7509
    @saulgoodman7509 Год назад +71

    I used to avoid the animal activists that stood outside my local kfc. Thought they were assholes. Now I've been vegan for a decade and wish I had of listened to those guys earlier.

    • @shaneboxhall1614
      @shaneboxhall1614 Год назад +1

      Sounds like someone abducted you and brainwashed you, and then you woke in bed wishing you were vegan earlier

    • @TeeK94
      @TeeK94 11 месяцев назад +1

      What about all of the animals and “pests” that farmers have to kill in order to protect your food so that you can live your vegan lifestyle? Is that okay?
      We can kill animals just as long as we don’t eat them? Got it.
      I’ve been to multiple farms where they’ve been overwhelmed by the amount of animals they have to kill just so you guys can eat your veggies, otherwise if the animals got to them you’d have nothing to eat.
      The carcass and bone yards are growing nicely!

    • @TeeK94
      @TeeK94 11 месяцев назад +1

      So funny how you thought they were assholes and now you are the asshole. It came full circle for you 🫶🏼

  • @TiagoSalemaG
    @TiagoSalemaG Год назад +61

    Their entire debate was around the thought "How can I reason my oppression"

    • @clarerainbird165
      @clarerainbird165 Год назад +3

      ​@@pacmanmcgavin7034what ??????

    • @TheVeganVicar
      @TheVeganVicar Год назад +1

      ​@@pacmanmcgavin7034, Good Girl! 👌
      Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

  • @ApexHerbivore
    @ApexHerbivore Год назад +175

    "We're part of nature aren't we..."
    *sips highly processed drink from metallicised plastic pouch*

    • @tyler2102
      @tyler2102 Год назад +5

      So we create things and that means we aren't part of nature anymore ? Lol pretty stupid.

    • @shaneboxhall1614
      @shaneboxhall1614 Год назад

      ​@sean4075 birds make nests goffer digs hole. But as soon as we make something, it's unnatural

    • @shaneboxhall1614
      @shaneboxhall1614 Год назад

      ​@@sean4075wait. Why is it a fallacy

    • @ihatewinter9105
      @ihatewinter9105 Год назад +1

      People used to drink raw milk not so long time ago

    • @xnoreq
      @xnoreq 8 месяцев назад

      @@shaneboxhall1614 Appeal to nature is when you say something is good or morally acceptable because it happens in nature. It's obviously a fallacy, because plenty of utterly immoral and horrible things happen in nature.

  • @bazza5699
    @bazza5699 Год назад +167

    respect joey, you've been consistent throughout your advocacy from day one..

    • @JoeyCarbstrong
      @JoeyCarbstrong  Год назад +40

      Thank you 🙏

    • @jawsjaws4018
      @jawsjaws4018 Год назад

      Because this is now making him money. Reality is no one cares for chickens, and normal thinking people do not compare chickens to humans. Only idiots. I say kill them and eat them. Like it or lump it, it's healthy and and natural. Joey does what he does because this is now how he makes a lot of money in his new life. End off.

    • @robwheeler9341
      @robwheeler9341 Год назад +1

      Respect to the drug dealer with firearms convictions 👍
      Also a mass murderer of insects to produce vegan products!

    • @36ELRIC
      @36ELRIC Год назад +4

      @@robwheeler9341 He doesn't keep it secret. Can a person not see the light and improve their life.
      We don't know the sentience of an insect that well but we damn well know about the trillions of animals we murder for food are sentient

    • @robwheeler9341
      @robwheeler9341 Год назад

      @@36ELRIC course he can. Anyone can. What about animals that kill other animals? Are they murderers? We are part of that animal kingdom too. I'm not an advocate for factory farming with some shocking things I've seen by any means. But ignorance on whether insects are sentient shouldn't justify the mass murder of them really in a vegans eyes surely? Maybe if we don't know, it's better to err on the side of caution?

  • @py16667
    @py16667 Год назад +62

    While they were quite defensive, you can see in their faces, this is making them think a lot. Hopefully they watch this back & see how bad their justifications were

    • @py16667
      @py16667 Год назад

      @@Vegan12 no idea, but anyone with at least a few friends should know it’s a Tekken character. Maybe your area of expertise is lady care, mine is geek stuff, Tekken is a fighting game, but again you would need friends to play with

    • @py16667
      @py16667 Год назад

      @@charliemarmite7417 no idea who you are, but nice to see another lady care expert is this invested in me lol proving my point no?

  • @AmateurSurgeonThe3rd
    @AmateurSurgeonThe3rd Год назад +41

    11:30 it's a great skill how you respectfully said you thought he was lying while keeping the convo going

  • @DM-fj8wv
    @DM-fj8wv Год назад +15

    Those kids were experiencing next level cognitive dissonance. Good of them to chat, and very nice of Joey to give them a free education with an extra serve of patience.

    • @anthonygarcia3922
      @anthonygarcia3922 Год назад

      But it was wrong

    • @amero3577
      @amero3577 2 дня назад

      Was two average blokes with triple digit iq using commonsense to dismantle all of joey’s ridiculous hypotheticals he does all the time. At no point where they pretentious or egotistical, defensive. Just asked questions and apply common knowledge. They know what is natural and what is realistic and what isn’t. Bravo to the both of them not taking joey’s crap

    • @amero3577
      @amero3577 2 дня назад

      Also if veganism ever prevailed anyways. It would never be permanent. It literally would not work out long term.

  • @jdw0426
    @jdw0426 Год назад +23

    "Nature tho"
    *sips caprisun*

  • @adymatt334
    @adymatt334 Год назад +38

    Joey!! You have become so good at this. ❤
    These seem like good kids that just haven’t thought about it much yet. You did so well with them.

  • @simonnaylor3536
    @simonnaylor3536 Год назад +79

    Probably the most intelligent conversation they have ever experienced and the most logical, intelligent person they have ever had a conversation with 👍

    • @ikeameatballs40
      @ikeameatballs40 Год назад +1

      Not everyone is sad enough to endlessly discuss or care about vegans

    • @simonnaylor3536
      @simonnaylor3536 Год назад +2

      @@ikeameatballs40 you obviously are or you wouldn’t have commented. We aren’t interested in vegans, we are focused on the animals you pay to abuse.

    • @simonnaylor3536
      @simonnaylor3536 Год назад +1

      @@pacmanmcgavin7034 you need to stop paying for horrible animal abuse.

    • @peachesmcgee4795
      @peachesmcgee4795 Год назад

      ​@@ikeameatballs40and yet here you are 😂

    • @Atypical_Chad
      @Atypical_Chad Год назад +1

      ​@pacmanmcgavin7034 Hypothetical: 1 man abuses his gf. The other man raped, impregnated, milked, and then killed his gf. Which is the worse scenario?

  • @DuelingPeaks
    @DuelingPeaks Год назад +311

    We're a cruel, oppressive, selfish species, aren't we? ☹️

    • @donolonisa5787
      @donolonisa5787 Год назад +10

      Go and ask each of 8 billion Carnist living worldwide, they may each have an answer you seek 😊

    • @ferise1
      @ferise1 Год назад +5

      @@donolonisa5787 wtf???

    • @donolonisa5787
      @donolonisa5787 Год назад +11

      @@ferise1 Animal Meat always be food for eternity 😉

    • @JB.zero.zero.1
      @JB.zero.zero.1 Год назад

      @@donolonisa5787
      You have no evidence for animals eating each other outside of this planet.
      When this planet vanishes - what then?
      Also, you cannot speak in terms of eternity.
      This is nonsense and egotistical waffle.

    • @Kevindavegan
      @Kevindavegan Год назад +15

      @@donolonisa5787 fossil record says differently and eternity isn’t a thing

  • @starcatcher3691
    @starcatcher3691 Год назад +74

    Factory farming doesnt happen in nature!

    • @PercivalBlakeney
      @PercivalBlakeney Год назад

      @starcatcher3691
      Mike Graham: Oh yes it does!

    • @NomadicCreatorMY
      @NomadicCreatorMY Год назад +1

      The idea of "growing your own food" isn't something new in nature. Many insects farm their own food. Ants, beetles, termites and even worms. Heck there are even gophers that farm their own food. And fun fact, if you're saying factory farming is exclusive to the meat industry... It's kinda mostly dominated by vegetables, fruits and plants. When are go to the supermarket, there are more canned plants than canned meat. Not to mention nearly all vegetables today are factory farmed. 🙃

    • @PercivalBlakeney
      @PercivalBlakeney Год назад

      @@NomadicCreatorMY
      My dear Gael…
      Factory farmed fruits and veggies really DON'T contribute one fraction of a percent of AGW gases that factory farmed animals do.
      Factory farmed veggies don't consume vast quantities of food (whilst every three seconds a human child dies of starvation) and don't produce even VASTER quantities of effluent that poisons waterways and aquifers (who needs clean drinking water after all?).
      The MRSA bacteria arose out of the wholesome American practice of feeding methicillin to livestock as if they were "Smarties" … ergo producing bacteria that were resistant to it.
      Talk to most any meat eater and they'll say that they're vehemently opposed to factory farming of animals… which means _de facto_ they're opposed to 99% of meat production.
      🙄

    • @FakenameStevens
      @FakenameStevens 7 месяцев назад

      That’s why polar bears go hungry and die

    • @joannejohnson8141
      @joannejohnson8141 3 месяца назад

      ​@@NomadicCreatorMYfactory farming refers to meat and other animal products, not vegetables.

  • @unflappable3551
    @unflappable3551 Год назад +12

    I love you that those two guys were prepared to have a discussion with Joey. If we can’t have civil discussions and hear each other’s side, nothing will ever change. Nothing that advances humanity in history has ever changed without discussion.

  • @harrypottershead8331
    @harrypottershead8331 Год назад +58

    Excellent supply of arguments as always. Glad to have activists like you.

    • @JoeyCarbstrong
      @JoeyCarbstrong  Год назад +10

      thank you!

    • @gmkid387
      @gmkid387 Год назад +1

      It's only exelent because it's true. The only argument against veganism is either you don't care about some dumb animals or you like meat too much to sacrifice it. I'm never gonna go vegan cause I do both.

  • @Dullball57balldull75
    @Dullball57balldull75 Год назад +76

    Thx for all you do for the animals 💚🐷

  • @mertdog2353
    @mertdog2353 Год назад +28

    Respect as always Joey. I have these conversations on a weekly basis and I can see the viewpoint shifting slowly. People are waking up. We do not stop 👊👊👊

    • @cenklol
      @cenklol Год назад

      no lol it fuck vegans

    • @shaneboxhall1614
      @shaneboxhall1614 Год назад

      You see what you want to see

    • @mertdog2353
      @mertdog2353 Год назад +1

      @@shaneboxhall1614 i didn’t see it 5 years ago but seen it a lot in the past 2. I don’t look for it. The opinions of the people around me have shifted, will we see a vegan world within. 50 years probably not. Will there be one in the future, absolutely

  • @MandeepKaur-cc6kx
    @MandeepKaur-cc6kx Год назад +26

    I think in every school system there should be a subject to teach love, compassion towards all the animals. We need to teach kids at young age

    • @gmkid387
      @gmkid387 Год назад +1

      😂 That would be the most stupid class ever. You love animals, go vegan. Only like your pets like me, eat every animal except some you care about like me. 🍖 🥓 🥩

    • @MandeepKaur-cc6kx
      @MandeepKaur-cc6kx Год назад +4

      @@gmkid387 Lmaoo from your comment it shows how empty and lost you are in life. A person who thinks consuming innocent and voiceless animals is kind of pride it shows lot about your mentality. Feel better mate!

    • @gmkid387
      @gmkid387 Год назад

      @@MandeepKaur-cc6kx Breh, why do you think I'm not happy? I'm living a very happy life. Imo, it's you vegans who feels unnecessary sadness for some stupid animals

    • @cenklol
      @cenklol Год назад +2

      every kid drinks milk in the morning with eggs xD

    • @TheVeganVicar
      @TheVeganVicar Год назад

      ​@@rondarkman., Good Girl! 👌
      Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

  • @charlottefield-jones6795
    @charlottefield-jones6795 Год назад +43

    Thank you for your incredible work Joey. I stopped eating meat at 8 years old when I found out that mince was actually a cow. It took 20 years before I learned about the horrors of the dairy and egg industry through activist like yourself and earthing Ed. I’m so grateful to say I’ve now been vegan for 5 years. I just wish I’d realised sooner and I truly believe that most people out there would go vegan too if they really understood what happens to the animals. Thank you for always trying to get people to think, we’ve apparently got these huge ‘superior’ brains, it’s about time used them for some good ✌🏻

    • @Avon65
      @Avon65 Год назад +1

      Have you learned the horrors of how many animals die every year from harvesting? Get back eating your mince and steak you no you miss it 😜

    • @Ultragoblinclan
      @Ultragoblinclan Год назад

      @@Avon65 Not everybody is addicted like you

    • @Avon65
      @Avon65 Год назад

      @@Ultragoblinclan Your right I have the Barbecue up and running just as I seeing this 🤣

    • @Ultragoblinclan
      @Ultragoblinclan Год назад

      @@Avon65 you're*

    • @Avon65
      @Avon65 Год назад

      @@Ultragoblinclan you're hangry

  • @Morgan34691
    @Morgan34691 Год назад +41

    Another episode of meateaters doing mental gymnastics

    • @letransformateur6477
      @letransformateur6477 Год назад +3

      Gymnastics is good for the body, perhaps mental gymnastics are good for the brain too?

    • @Morgan34691
      @Morgan34691 Год назад +3

      @@letransformateur6477 if it helps people to get to the point to stop the exploitation of animals, that would be great 🌱
      Train the brain 🌱

    • @cenklol
      @cenklol Год назад

      these guys are stupid, im a meat eater and my defence is: i came to live here and this world is survival, i will do my best to live the best way possible which includes eating whatever the fk i want , simple

  • @hiking1388
    @hiking1388 Год назад +64

    Fantastic and inspiring! It's so easy to get burnt out, but seeing Joey still so tirelessly fighting for animals' rights is just so wonderful 😊🌱🌍

    • @Got-2B-Said
      @Got-2B-Said Год назад +2

      But ironically you are typing this on your device full of bi products and I bet you have a house full of tech with said products in aswel.
      So shampoo with bi products is bad but when you want your tech for your dopamine hit it's good.
      Gotcha 😂

    • @hiking1388
      @hiking1388 Год назад

      @@Got-2B-Said Never heard of bi products. I highly doubt, however, there is a connection between them and wanting slaughterhouses to close.

    • @Got-2B-Said
      @Got-2B-Said Год назад +1

      @@hiking1388 Oh so you admit you'll happily use Shampoos etc or buy a pair of leather shoes then ?
      Funny how the first thing you went to is denial and then shifted the goal posts to slaughterhouses when it concerns your entertainment 😂

    • @hiking1388
      @hiking1388 Год назад +1

      @@Got-2B-Said
      1. "Oh so you admit you'll happily use Shampoos etc or buy a pair of leather shoes then ? "
      I only use vegan shampoo and cosmetics from companies that do not sell in China as they require animal testing.
      I went to a great deal of trouble to purchase vegan leather boots. I will never buy leather.
      From my comments about animals having rights, and wishing slaughterhouses to close (and being confused by what you mean by 'bi products'), how could you assume that I would 'happily' purchase leather?
      2. "Funny how the first thing you went to is denial"
      Where in my comment is there denial? And denial of what, exactly?
      3. "then shifted the goal posts to slaughterhouses when it concerns your entertainment"
      What are these "goal posts", and where did I shift them from and to? One comment said I believe in animal rights. Another expressed a desire to close slaughterhouses. Slaughterhouses should close as animals should have rights. This isn't goalpost shifting, it's a belief and a desired consequence of said belief.
      Please answer my questions as I am genuinely confused. Otherwise I will assume you are arguing in bad faith.

    • @RogueRM
      @RogueRM Год назад +1

      He's not fighting for animal rights. He's 'fighting' for Joey Carbstrong's bank account. This is how he makes a living.
      🤪🤪🤪

  • @jeepsthetimebandit
    @jeepsthetimebandit Год назад +28

    Nobody has ever and will ever get the better of Joey. He knows his stuff!
    I love watching these videos 😊

    • @jeepsthetimebandit
      @jeepsthetimebandit Год назад

      @vkb6352 Eww what a name to have. You need to get that rash treated.

    • @Jean428
      @Jean428 Год назад +1

      Piers Morgan got the better of him a few days ago

    • @jeepsthetimebandit
      @jeepsthetimebandit Год назад

      @Jean428 I didn't see that one. Piers usually just shouts over people and doesn't listen.

    • @Corgi_Manu
      @Corgi_Manu Год назад

      That's because he just guilt trips the other person lol.

    • @jeepsthetimebandit
      @jeepsthetimebandit Год назад +1

      @Corgi_Manu It's not guilt tripping. It's making them see it for how it really is.

  • @zsofiathompson7501
    @zsofiathompson7501 Год назад +16

    How patient you are! Awesome work!

  • @FleyDragon
    @FleyDragon Год назад +23

    I wish someone like Joey would have sat me down and told me the truth years ago.

    • @anthonygarcia3922
      @anthonygarcia3922 Год назад

      Why if it's wrong

    • @36ELRIC
      @36ELRIC Год назад

      Me too if I would have bumped into an activists years ago I am confident I would have turned Vegan much earlier

  • @mat_j
    @mat_j Год назад +38

    at some point you should just say: You're a big boy, if you want to find excusess you will. If you want to be a developed human being, live according to your ethics you need to do what's right and that's it...

    • @YourHomieNextDoor
      @YourHomieNextDoor Год назад +7

      well said.
      I often say to young men, when i feel like they want to be strong and masculine: „the strong ones need to protect the weak ones brother, there is nothing more masculine, then being vegan“

    • @kinalbrien6357
      @kinalbrien6357 Год назад +1

      I mean they are literally children, I think they did pretty well considering theres an almost 100% chance their families eat eat, and their preconceived notion of vegans is probably negative. once you get to the sentience part of the argument (basically the dog part, my dude even realizes he might only view dogs as more than cows or pigs because of his uprbringing) it only takes a little bit to go vegan... might take some time but i dont think they were hopeless cases.

    • @TheVeganVicar
      @TheVeganVicar Год назад

      Right and wrong are RELATIVE. 😉

    • @anthonygarcia3922
      @anthonygarcia3922 Год назад

      ​@@YourHomieNextDoorhow is it more masculine to be vegan?

    • @7drunkenmermaids431
      @7drunkenmermaids431 Год назад

      ​​@@YourHomieNextDoorAs a woman, I 100% agree, it's truly sexy for a man to be vegan. It's proof of compassion. The desire to protect the weaker or less fortunate is the epitome of manliness.

  • @Loots420
    @Loots420 Год назад +16

    These are the kinds of videos that made me go vegan, love how entertaining this content is

  • @harrigreen6263
    @harrigreen6263 Год назад +12

    I’ve been vegan for around 3 years now and haven’t watch a vegan video in the past 2 years and give you a lot of props to do what you do Joey.

  • @ryan9166
    @ryan9166 Год назад +107

    Non vegans - what side of history do you wish to be on?
    The side which supports animals being gas chambered, having their throats slit, grinded alive, boiled, frozen alive, babies separated from their mothers, etc?
    Or the side of compassion to all sentient beings?
    In decades to come, we will look back now and what we're doing to the trillions of animals each year, with great shame...
    Go vegan! 💚

    • @iamnoone6118
      @iamnoone6118 Год назад +8

      I'm not nearly as optimistic as you but very much wish for you to be right. I think that if anything will end animal agriculture, it will be lab grown meat becoming cheaper to produce and the marketing machine getting behind that.

    • @ryan9166
      @ryan9166 Год назад +5

      @@iamnoone6118 Most definitely, it will come soon I believe. People are so disconnected from the reality it is unreal.

    • @donolonisa5787
      @donolonisa5787 Год назад +2

      Say's a daydreaming Herbivore

    • @ryan9166
      @ryan9166 Год назад +6

      @@donolonisa5787 What do you have against veganism?

    • @SmurfieDurfie
      @SmurfieDurfie Год назад +6

      ​@@donolonisa5787Great argument, I think I have to not be vegan anymore after this.

  • @BoopMeHard
    @BoopMeHard Год назад +238

    It’s wild how opposed some people are to trying a lifestyle that is cruelty free. It’s a very selfish way to live.

    • @Whatisnextinlife
      @Whatisnextinlife Год назад +16

      It’s amazing how some people feel the need to change everyone. Live your life the way you want. Let others lead theirs.

    • @JB.zero.zero.1
      @JB.zero.zero.1 Год назад +38

      @@Whatisnextinlife
      How do you think positive change occurs within human culture ?

    • @MammothMorals
      @MammothMorals Год назад +42

      ​@@Whatisnextinlifemaybe apply your logic to animals and stop feeling the need to change them into burgers. Live your life the way you want and let others (animals) live theirs.

    • @Whatisnextinlife
      @Whatisnextinlife Год назад +3

      @@kwgt9198 the cattle my family raises has never asked not to eaten. The chickens have asked not to be eaten. I have no problem with people choosing to be vegan, live your life. I will always eat meat, let me live my life.

    • @Whatisnextinlife
      @Whatisnextinlife Год назад

      @@MammothMorals they are. They are raised to feed my family. That is the purpose in life.

  • @cynicalidealist11
    @cynicalidealist11 Год назад +41

    Awesome work

  • @rossseed1451
    @rossseed1451 Год назад +12

    I marvel at your patience, Joey, thanks for all you do, man.

  • @roku3216
    @roku3216 Год назад +23

    A giant who was superior to humans liked the taste of Englishmen, and people lost their sh*t over it… So much for the superiority justification.

    • @talyn7448
      @talyn7448 Год назад +1

      Well, Jack managed to outwit the giant so he wasn't that superior. But you are not wrong, I always said, if you are dumb enough to go into a bear den unarmed, it's only fair that the bear gets to eat you.

    • @tobbs5410
      @tobbs5410 Год назад +6

      I reckon the witch in Hansel and Gretel just had a rare blood type that made the flesh of human children a nutritional requirement. Being burned to death in your own oven for just trying to feed yourself seems unnecessarily harsh.

    • @talyn7448
      @talyn7448 Год назад

      @tobbs5410 Here is the thing, we, as a society, consider that cannibalism is a very serious crime, so the punishment was appropriate.

    • @tobbs5410
      @tobbs5410 Год назад +4

      @@talyn7448 What if she was an obligate cannibal, though? Human children might be her only sustainable source of B12

    • @talyn7448
      @talyn7448 Год назад

      @tobbs5410 Well, today, we would get her medicines, in the past, she would just have to die. It's a numbers game, you either sacrifice countless young lives for one to live or you sacrifice that one person. However, this applies only to members of our own species, no animal or animals are worth more than a human.

  • @discursion
    @discursion Год назад +15

    You got a really sharp and tight debunk response for every cliché claims they could painfully muster - well done! I’m impressed. Luckily they didn’t seem to have the large and dull ego that most adults hold onto to avoid any change of thought, so perhaps a seed will grow out of that interaction. Certainly serves as a great case study to share far and wide.

  • @alexkehoepwj
    @alexkehoepwj Год назад +3

    I only get my meat from a beautiful farm, where the animals laugh and play! They die of natural causes surrounded by their loved ones, and their last words are, "I give you permission to eat me!"
    He says with burger king in his hand

  • @plantbasedwellbeing7434
    @plantbasedwellbeing7434 Год назад +10

    The first death in life is the naivety of youth. You’re slaughtering their naivety with the weapons of knowledge! Keep on Joey 👊💚

  • @sp-bc1kk
    @sp-bc1kk Год назад +13

    I think these two guys need to see footage of what happens to the animals. Their not fully understanding exactly what Joey is trying to say. They should of watched the footage.

  • @owenteamtraceur
    @owenteamtraceur Год назад +8

    I think there should be props to these lads, they’ve been condition the same way the majority of us have been and they asked questions and listened.
    Not sure what more you can ask from two young lads.
    Hopefully they take the time to properly educate themselves on it all, they seemed to care about whether they were right or not so possibly it’ll lead them to the right path.

  • @colin7096
    @colin7096 Год назад +15

    You were blazing on all cylinders there mate, nice one, they were hit with vegan cluster bombs from the start
    😁👍

  • @keeganitreal
    @keeganitreal Год назад +7

    A scary world these two want for humanity based on their actions and reasoning. They don’t want to use a line of reasoning in every situation. Only ones that suit their non existent argument.
    Amazing job Joey as always.

  • @simonhodgkinson1972
    @simonhodgkinson1972 Год назад +11

    'British lad trolls himself'

    • @akrulla
      @akrulla Год назад

      😂😂 brilliant.

  • @jacobcosquer
    @jacobcosquer Год назад +2

    I have so much respect for you Joey and your consistency and directness is very much appreciated. I love how the boy in grey is really going through something here.

  • @Kevindavegan
    @Kevindavegan Год назад +6

    He’d rather die than be vegan. Bye bye

  • @atruenut
    @atruenut Год назад +3

    Actually respect these kids for engaging

  • @garry3989
    @garry3989 Год назад +3

    "I'd rather die than eat Vegan" OK then, let's put that to the test shall we?

  • @MrDefiance000
    @MrDefiance000 Год назад +6

    THANK YOU Joey!!!

  • @Cancel_Carnism
    @Cancel_Carnism Год назад +4

    Love this Joey, cool, calm and to the point every time! You didn’t allow them to distract away from the topic, thank you for your work here, seeds were definitely planted in this discussion! 😄 🌱👍

  • @veganizeeverything2769
    @veganizeeverything2769 Год назад +3

    Joey Carbstrong firing on all cylinders here! They could barely keep up.

  • @LisaCooper-thevegan-123
    @LisaCooper-thevegan-123 Год назад +4

    You're amazing Joey! Keep planting the vegan seeds. Till all cages are empty!🙏👍👏♥️♥️♥️

  • @ashleyashley9405
    @ashleyashley9405 Год назад +7

    People are so selfish it’s sickening!!

    • @justinfrmda215
      @justinfrmda215 Год назад

      Eating meat is not selfish. What if we had no plants to eat but animals?

    • @SOLOMONDAMIANAARON
      @SOLOMONDAMIANAARON Год назад

      ​@@justinfrmda215But we have plants, fruits, nuts and legumes to eat. We should be more selfless and not sacrifise animals for our own pleasure!

    • @shaneboxhall1614
      @shaneboxhall1614 Год назад

      ​@@SOLOMONDAMIANAARONwhy?

    • @shaneboxhall1614
      @shaneboxhall1614 Год назад

      Including vegans

    • @SOLOMONDAMIANAARON
      @SOLOMONDAMIANAARON Год назад

      @@shaneboxhall1614 Eating vegan in laymen terms is better for you and the environment.

  • @KC-pz4md
    @KC-pz4md Год назад +20

    I love it when they start stumbling and scrambling over and muttering their sentences, it's like "ha ,got em, ha, got em!" 😂😂

    • @KC-pz4md
      @KC-pz4md Год назад

      @@rondarkman. you're a pathetic troll 😅 your viewpoint is so alien to me I can't help but laugh at you 😂 you're a joke to the real carnivores, omnivores and herbivores of this world because you're a little meatflake weirdo who still drinks breast milk, haven't you weened yourself off it yet little child? Still not grown into a man yet? 🚼😂

  • @loganfox6199
    @loganfox6199 Год назад +3

    The way I view it, as the smartest animals on this earth, we should choose to use our power for good and be selfless. It's a very enlightening way to live.

  • @maggot1111666
    @maggot1111666 Год назад +27

    being vegan is NOT hard. I spend much less time cooking, much simpler, and cheaper. mostly eating legumes, fruit, and grains

    • @meateaterscringe9863
      @meateaterscringe9863 Год назад +1

      @jansentoreno6409 "cheapER"

    • @chrisx5127
      @chrisx5127 Год назад +2

      That sound absolutely disgusting.

    • @maggot1111666
      @maggot1111666 Год назад +1

      @jansentoreno6409 not if you buy the right stuff. I’m generally spending 1500$ per year on food in America

    • @maggot1111666
      @maggot1111666 Год назад +1

      @@chrisx5127 I’m not really concerned with taste, more how it makes me feel and sattvic eating, but regardless, the food I eat is not pungent so it cannot be disgusting or tasty. Rather, it is generally bland, especially since I do not use salt, sugar, or spices

    • @DeathLetterBlues.
      @DeathLetterBlues. Год назад

      ​@@maggot1111666You're not really concerned by taste? I feel sorry for you man.

  • @razpootis5802
    @razpootis5802 Год назад +1

    Their whole argument: "it's just this... It's just that..."

  • @benandraystern2723
    @benandraystern2723 Год назад +5

    Happily went vegan 4 years ago..wish I did it sooner

    • @WhyAreWeHere2023
      @WhyAreWeHere2023 Год назад

      same honestly. A friend of mine had the treat of growing up completely vegan.

    • @SOLOMONDAMIANAARON
      @SOLOMONDAMIANAARON Год назад +1

      Same, my body and every animal would have thanked me. Going vegan triggered just big detoxing, constant trips to the bathroom haha!

  • @JayJay-nb1sv
    @JayJay-nb1sv Год назад +3

    Its impressive how quick you are to respond with a good answer. Amazing job as always Joey!

  • @effigy123
    @effigy123 Год назад +7

    Great video Joey, spitting facts, keep it up

  • @victoriousvegan2291
    @victoriousvegan2291 Год назад +2

    Joey, I think this is your best one yet!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏❤❤❤❤💚💚💚
    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed individuals can change the world. In fact, it's the only thing that ever has"-Margaret Mead

  • @cerveloslcsl
    @cerveloslcsl Год назад +23

    Couple of young fools. Hopefully the seed that was planted grows!

    • @lifeontheround
      @lifeontheround Год назад +3

      Not fools, just misinformed. That's why they are being challenged. You can't change everyone but it's vastly important to have informed choices.

    • @M_SS1
      @M_SS1 Год назад +1

      We've all been young fools at some point, it's not a fair thing to say but whatever, free speech. At least they were willing to debate, without being aggressive or insulting. We all start at one point, we cross the line from ignorance when someone educates us. Peace.

    • @lifeontheround
      @lifeontheround Год назад +1

      @M_SS1 yeah I think they were good lads to actually debate and listen too. Good on them.

  • @Frazsier-lx1gr
    @Frazsier-lx1gr Год назад +9

    Such conversations must be exhausting. But I think one can hardly blame those two lads. Because at their young age they just don't know better and are conditioned like many others are.
    *sigh* Maybe the one standing is more reasonable towards change.

    • @donolonisa5787
      @donolonisa5787 Год назад

      They would just have beefburgers 🍖🍖🐄 for dinner 😊

    • @JB.zero.zero.1
      @JB.zero.zero.1 Год назад +1

      @@donolonisa5787
      [ type tedious message ] [ insert cartoon meat icons ] [ insert wink ]
      / feel smug - move on to next thread

    • @donolonisa5787
      @donolonisa5787 Год назад

      @@JB.zero.zero.1 Oh seems that you're talking shit 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩 while Animals were getting slaughtered worldwide every minute 😊

  • @carnismiscancer2108
    @carnismiscancer2108 Год назад +48

    Thanks for exposing how delusional these carnists are

    • @boobootheballbreaker2092
      @boobootheballbreaker2092 Год назад +6

      They are delsional but some, you can tell, these two can be reached. When I was vegetarian years ago, I didn't think I could ever be vegan. These two aren't being dickheads.

    • @TenTempeh
      @TenTempeh Год назад +2

      ​@@boobootheballbreaker2092agreed

    • @jawsjaws4018
      @jawsjaws4018 Год назад +2

      Carnism is natural.

    • @TenTempeh
      @TenTempeh Год назад +6

      @@jawsjaws4018 it's normal* in an insane society. Doesn't mean it's good

    • @donolonisa5787
      @donolonisa5787 Год назад

      These Carnist didn't forced others to become Carnist's, it was the Shitty 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩 Vegan's who barged into farms and restaurants forcing people to eat timbers and woods.

  • @deisepolo
    @deisepolo Год назад +2

    Thank you Joey. Vegan for the animals. 4 years this year. No regrets and my 10 years old son likes vegan foods

    • @cenklol
      @cenklol Год назад

      have some chicken sometime brother

    • @deisepolo
      @deisepolo Год назад

      @@cenklol 🥱😴

  • @JR-lb7iw
    @JR-lb7iw Год назад +4

    That boy looks like he's going to university. Joey is an ex criminal. 😂

  • @Itsunclegabby
    @Itsunclegabby Год назад +4

    Is Joey single?
    I need to date someone willing to bail me out of jail for illegally rescuing animals from legally being tortured.

  • @Morgan34691
    @Morgan34691 Год назад +29

    'Meat is healthy'
    Eats Mac Donalds

  • @NoBody-tk3yd
    @NoBody-tk3yd Год назад +1

    "If I punch you in the face it would hurt".
    Letting your true thoughts and feelings show there.

  • @LouisGedo
    @LouisGedo Год назад +19

    3:20
    That moment Joey makes you eat your own idiotic words! 👊 💥

  • @LC-gs6qv
    @LC-gs6qv Год назад +2

    Infuriating!!!!! I'm speechless! Great work Joey 👏

  • @lauragriffiths5456
    @lauragriffiths5456 Год назад +4

    Bro went straight to lions 🫣

  • @timothys9288
    @timothys9288 Год назад +2

    A cow's brain is larger than a dog's. I think people would be shocked how big a cow brain is.

  • @watch-Dominion-2018
    @watch-Dominion-2018 Год назад +34

    just swap them with the animals in the factory farms

    • @donolonisa5787
      @donolonisa5787 Год назад

      Good let's see if it's possible 😊

    • @donolonisa5787
      @donolonisa5787 Год назад

      @@OM617a Good, I challenge you to try swap me with those Animals in factory farms, if you failed, and still rely on comments, then you are FUCKED UP 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕

    • @milly4556
      @milly4556 Год назад +2

      This was a civil debate, and you’re making it into something it’s not. Grow up

    • @Jean428
      @Jean428 Год назад

      what a horrible thing to say

  • @rmalde3268
    @rmalde3268 Год назад +1

    Thank you again Joey for the animals. Your videos are amazing . Keep up the good work.

  • @mikemd866
    @mikemd866 Год назад +5

    joey the vegan boss carbstrong

  • @ElGorilaVegano
    @ElGorilaVegano Год назад +40

    You are awesome joey... such strong arguments, thanks for what you do.

    • @JoeyCarbstrong
      @JoeyCarbstrong  Год назад +13

      Thanks I appreciate it!

    • @Jen-nr2kw
      @Jen-nr2kw Год назад

      I dont know how you keep going Joey. Youre amazing. Love you ❤

  • @amberize9213
    @amberize9213 Год назад +27

    Aw, bless em. So far out of their depth there, they need armbands 😊 I believe many you speak to go on and try to reinforce their anti vegan status after the fact, and are then exposed to the truth. Planting vegan seeds in uneducated minds.

    • @donolonisa5787
      @donolonisa5787 Год назад

      His planting of seeds didn't prevent animal slaughter worldwide 😉

    • @JB.zero.zero.1
      @JB.zero.zero.1 Год назад +2

      @@donolonisa5787
      It's a protracted process [ insert wink ] ...

    • @donolonisa5787
      @donolonisa5787 Год назад

      @@JB.zero.zero.1 Yeah, when I saw a Chicken's head getting chopped off and rolled down to my feet, I didn't saw any single human soul intervened 😊

    • @amberize9213
      @amberize9213 Год назад

      ​@@donolonisa5787perfect candidate

    • @donolonisa5787
      @donolonisa5787 Год назад

      @@amberize9213 ????

  • @whalewatchersa
    @whalewatchersa Год назад

    "I'm not debating you in a time machine dude". Excellent!

  • @garibaldi54
    @garibaldi54 Год назад +9

    "I don't like the taste of dog", have you ever eaten one?

    • @talyn7448
      @talyn7448 Год назад

      Hmm, I was always told that carnivores don't taste as good as herbivores and that because they only eat meat, their own meat is not as clean and healthy either. Maybe that's why eating dogs and cats didn't catch in most of the world. 🤔

    • @weevil8025
      @weevil8025 Год назад +3

      @@talyn7448 Dogs are omnivores, not carnivores.

    • @talyn7448
      @talyn7448 Год назад

      @weevil8025 Look at that, they are, I was always taught they are carnivores in school. Still, though, dogs will eat predominantly meat.

    • @garibaldi54
      @garibaldi54 Год назад

      @@talyn7448 Even lions dont eat 100% meat diets.
      Anyway, most meat eaters smother it in sauce/gravy and put it in a pie or bun anyway.

  • @thatveganliam5863
    @thatveganliam5863 Год назад +1

    ‘Technically we’re part of nature’ [proceeds to drink processed crap from plastic container] 😂

  • @tinyjungle_
    @tinyjungle_ Год назад +2

    It all came down to "my species is smarter as a whole, so bacon tho"

  • @puppeleantjebahamondesch.101
    @puppeleantjebahamondesch.101 Год назад +1

    Thanks Joey !!!!!!

  • @Ronaldiddy12
    @Ronaldiddy12 Год назад +1

    My favourite debate on your whole channel. I think you should do more like this. More of a philosophical discussion👍great work brother

  • @HOWITSDONE_TV
    @HOWITSDONE_TV Год назад +1

    Cows are far more advanced than that animal in sunglasses

    • @jimmyobrien8738
      @jimmyobrien8738 Год назад

      Bullshit the cow doesn't know how to vote even though maybe he doesn't 😂😉

  • @rachelness366
    @rachelness366 Год назад +7

    Don’t know how he has the patience when people are so stubbornly refusing to listen.

    • @donolonisa5787
      @donolonisa5787 Год назад

      I wonder if a salt water crocodiles would listen to Joey with patience 😊

    • @Still-Struggling
      @Still-Struggling Год назад

      @@donolonisa5787Humans aren’t crocodiles, you moron.

    • @JB.zero.zero.1
      @JB.zero.zero.1 Год назад +3

      @@donolonisa5787
      [ insert idiotic non-argument ] [ insert wink ]
      / feel smug - move on to next thread

    • @donolonisa5787
      @donolonisa5787 Год назад

      @@JB.zero.zero.1 Good, I'll continue butchering domesticated pigs and chickens until you or Shitty 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩Joey appears, then I'll STOP 😉

  • @Torjwilks21
    @Torjwilks21 Год назад +1

    The majority of us are born compassionate, we naturally love not hate, we become brainwashed and conditioned by our parents and peers. We are gorilla not lion, education is key,

  • @TheVeganHeathen
    @TheVeganHeathen Год назад +5

    A lot better of a conversation than I would have expected with kids or adults this young -- you got through so many of the different excuses people make. It's definitely common for people much older to have a much lesser understanding of these arguments. I think there's definitely a decent chance they could go vegan.

    • @dobby3392
      @dobby3392 8 месяцев назад

      actually debating with the younger gen is more enjoyable than older. younger people listen and are more civil than older ego driven gen x and boomers. speaking from experience.

    • @TheVeganHeathen
      @TheVeganHeathen 8 месяцев назад

      @@dobby3392 Interesting, I bet, and I would generally agree from what I've see. They naturally have more neuroplasticity. That said it takes some self awareness to acknowledge these things that I definitely wouldn't expect from any younger person.

  • @laurelgillespie5612
    @laurelgillespie5612 Год назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @80slimshadys
    @80slimshadys Год назад +1

    I wanna see a table that says ''try and argue that's ok to kill animals without circling back to sensory pleasure''

    • @jimmyobrien8738
      @jimmyobrien8738 Год назад

      Sensory pleasure is a non argument as there are plenty of vegan alternatives that are tasty so ye vegans really have to drop taste pleasure tho

    • @80slimshadys
      @80slimshadys Год назад

      @@jimmyobrien8738 That doesn't make sense. It's not vegans that need to drop sensory pleasure, it's carnists since they're the ones making the argument. Vegan s are the ones that have to keep reminding carnists that if that argument were to be valid then you could argue that lighting people on fire because you enjoy watching them glow is justified.

    • @x-latetv-x6816
      @x-latetv-x6816 Год назад

      ​@@80slimshadysI don't make that argument I eat meat as part of a healthy omnivore diet. If meat tasted like crap I would still eat it as part of a healthy omnivore diet therefore debunking your taste pleasure tho non argument

  • @fletcha11
    @fletcha11 Год назад +2

    Hard to hear our youth making every excuse the be cruel. Slaughterhouse footage is inappropriate? If it is not good enough for your eyes, it should not bee good enough for your stomach💚💚

  • @AdmitthatijustdiditX
    @AdmitthatijustdiditX Год назад +4

    Awesome to see a real conversation being had. I think those "lad's" were being quite honest and introspective. They definitely got to the point of knowing that their rationale was flawed, and were just waiting for Joey to tell them why xD, but they seemed to respect you and what you had to say.
    Too often It's a one sided conversation with the other side doubling down on ridiculous positions.

  • @charlotteyork1300
    @charlotteyork1300 Год назад +1

    Thank you So much for all you do Joey. You are an amazing human being.

  • @GetOnWithItGaming
    @GetOnWithItGaming Год назад +9

    Great work joey and love the way it's shot and the fast cuts in the editing got the message across very face paced well done 👍

  • @cindy652
    @cindy652 Год назад +2

    Lions do not cause the maximum amount of suffering! Humans do.

  • @papatycoon4320
    @papatycoon4320 Год назад +12

    This is honestly impressive. I genuinely had a hard time figuring out if this debate was edited or if Joey was simply speed running anti vegan arguments irl😂.

  • @warriors_move_gracefully
    @warriors_move_gracefully Год назад +1

    Your thoughts are sharp and fast, Joey ⚡️love listening to your debates and learning a lot from them. Thank you 👍

  • @jonnythelegs2597
    @jonnythelegs2597 Год назад

    "I'm not debating you in a time machine dude"... 😂😂 I like that. 👌

  • @chathafakap1830
    @chathafakap1830 Год назад +3

    He’s talks about natural, while drinking from a capri-sun….

  • @saulivor2843
    @saulivor2843 Год назад +1

    4:46 LOL "no I don't think I would actually" 🤣

  • @Morgan34691
    @Morgan34691 Год назад +3

    I love your work 🌱

  • @waywardwolf3000
    @waywardwolf3000 Год назад +1

    The willful ignorance of the man standing up in regards to how the cows are killed. I suspect he fully knows and understands. He just doesn't want to believe it. I hope they both think more on it as it seems like they were already thinking about it.