Terrorism in Mozambique: Is SA NEXT? | Willem Els
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- Islamist terrorists have attacked the town of Palma in the northern Mozambique province of Cabo Delgado, killing dozens of people. David Ansara of the CRA speaks to Willem Els of the Institute of Security Studies about the potential for the conflict to escalate to other parts of Southern Africa.
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Do you think the growing threat of Islamist terrorism in Mozambique poses a threat to South Africa? Comment below...
Poses a minor threat in trade and progression of our north eastern borders but I don't think it will reach SA if it does we have the capabilities( not the best ) to beat this threat . Any thoughts I'd like to hear.
We don't have any capabilitys. Not the military nor the police.
Talking to them could be an option too. Coz they got leadership.
There are prophecies of South Africa get taken over definitely i have had many dreams of it happening the only question is when?
OIL=ISIS TERRORISTS=CIA= USA MISCHIEF
No one discussed who is funding these insurgents?
Surely this should form a pivotal part of the discussion?
My money is on the gulf states. The gas reserve in Moz is probably a threat to them
Halal products fund Islamic jihad. A small halal tax funds the expansion of Islam.
@@notpc1630 let me help you here.
I have personally dealt with two very large producers of Halal produce in the Middle East and it is highly unlikely that they have any interest or even less desire to sponsor Jihadists as it would simply not be in their interest to do so.
They both need a stable markets to operate in, they are business minded people.
In Mozambique we all know that most of the Concessions to extract LNG were awarded to French energy giant Total.
If one goes back 3 years one will note that Anadarko was displaced in favour of Total.
One thing that we must all be mindful of is that we should not interfere in the business interests that will affect America....., especially when they are as collosal as the size and scope of the Liquified Natural Gas deposits in Mozambique.
Here is one more angle,
Lockheed Martin has 110 000 employees, try and meet payroll obligations for all of those people each and every month.
We also have KBR, Halliburtob, Raytheon, Boeing Aerospace, Northrop Grumman, Honeywell, Booz Allen Hamilton, General Dynamics and BaE Systems.
Now I think it is clearer why Jihad has to be funded and who needs to ensure that they are adequately resourced?
Of course I might be wrong?
I have to go now, time to look for WMD and also to Fight the next War on Terror.
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Please send Malema there to sort out the problem. He is a freedom fighter. He knows everything
Agree
Really 😕
@@boerelegioenmedia1038 Hahaha mooi man kom ons kyk of Malema regtig so Powerful is en of hy regtig van Voor af kan lei.
@@bryankruger3794 ek dink ek en jy weet altwee hy sal van voor af lei.....die weghol aksie lei
@@boerelegioenmedia1038 Saluut Generaal! Ek stem saam haha Malema is nie n leier se gat nie man. Generaal is daai een leier wat ek my hoed voor af haal dankie vir wat Generaal en Boerelegioen doen!
Malema with a big..mouth nyew..nywe open the borders..where is he now
Ay khul'leka konyiwa 👍🏾
Will we have thousands of refugees coming to south africa?
Yes of course Africans are welcome anytime
@@blackwidower4283 I don't think South Africans agree with you on this one. They would rather invite Europeans and Americans, then complain of racism and ask for African support. Thats how we do it in the South.
Judy janse your name seems as a foreigner from nethalands, Africa is for Africans , Go back to uerope fool , Africans are not refugees in Africa.
@isaac mugomba. You the fool. I am from south africa. With our own people starving and not having jobs, how wil we be able to help them? There might just be an uprising when they find employment and not us.
No, you guys don't even pay attention to Geography. It is not even close to South Africa, its closer to Tanzania. Chances of this coming to SA are very slim. We don't have predominantly Muslim areas is SA.
South African military and our police should really pull up their socks and keep SA safe
All my South Africa people, it's time to take back our country from these commy limp wristed ways.
We are all under threat.
@South African Farmer I felt this comment on so many levels.
About 5 years ago, Radio RSG had a discussion about ISIS being in SA training young black men.
Don't lie man, the South Africans that keep joining these groups aren't even black but Coloured and Asian Muslims mostly from the Cape and Durban. Black South Africans are not Muslims in case you didn't know.
@NEO MPHAHLELE ahhahahahaha
@@accountretired9479 sorry, we are not doing the intersectionality here. The heavy proselytizing of radical Islam is high in and amongst black communities. Yes, there is hard-line Muslims in the Coloured and Indian communities, however, they are a lot more progressive. For example homosexuality is far more acceptable in Muslim coloured and Indian communities than in black communities where stabane still get killed and lesbians still get brutally raped. The patriarchal system of black communities coupled with radical Islam, give you want you are now seeing in Mozambique. You hardly see acts of religious terror in Cape Town or Durban. So please, stop trying to shitf the blame. Own it.
@@charlielucai-woodsboro2167 Stop talking shit man, TF is wrong with you? black South Africans ARE NOT muslim where did you get nonsense like that from?
@@accountretired9479 tell them...
Hi Folks - Why doesn't the Mozambique government ask the Portuguese to come back to sort the problem out?
Why
They wanted independence
Not Portugal’s problem
The last time there were armed Portuguese in Mozambique, things djdn't go down that well
Mozambique is not Portugal. Mozambique is in Africa and has neighbours capable enough to tackle this problem. Surely, South Africa has to prepare itself too.
@@ryancoleman2183 Of course, independence is not dependence. You talk like those colonialist were nicer to the locals there. How do you make friends with people who subjected you into a subhuman because of the colour of your skin ? It is better to parish a free man in your own country than to parish a slave (with even no dignity in burial). One can easily figure out your screwed pattern of thought.
Portugal is dealing with Socialism now, they won't bother themselves
Thank you for update. Very disturbing . It is just to close to SA!!
they are approximately 2000km away.that is not close.they will get a hiding in sa
Is it? Im from Zimbabwe
I believe that here in SA the Muslims and Christians live in harmony right alongside each other - they do not interfere with our faith and we do not interfere with theirs - why would anybody want to change that - it does not make sense when we get on with each other just fine - yes we had the Tullsey Twins (spelling) but they were the exception not the rule
Money is the root of all evil. Greed knows no peace.
When was the last time you encountered anything that makes sense?
@@thamsanqahadebe5778 sometime back in 2019 I reckon was the last time anything made sense
@@avrillee7369 Things stopped making sense many years ago to me and yet in a funny twist the senseless soon began to make sense. Our leaders are satanic beings with a death wish. The chaos gives them orgasms. You think I'm joking til you realize that among your relatives are demons who need blood and death just to exist. We live amongst demons who hate Nature and Peace. They hate mankind and constantly plan and execute our destruction even if it means they end up in Hellfire as well. People often ask me: "But how could the government be complicit in the destruction of its own citizens?" I always reply: "The most important thing you're missing and your greatest mistake is thinking that THEY think like us and that THEY really love you! You don't even know what THEY are!"
Grassy Park in Cape Town is flooded with radical religious teaching. There is now calls coming from that community to reinstall PAGAD into the Cape Coloured Congress. The very same PAGAD which bombed Planet Hollywood back in the day. Sectarian strife is coming to SA sooner than anticipated skat
Put Malema first and Zuma in the battle field
I agree
Then people say South Africans call for stronger boarders because "they are xenophobic" 🥱🥱. We need stronger boarders, stringent immigration laws and a large military presence on our boarders. If you think I am wrong, go look at how Boko Haram spilled over from Nigeria into Cameroon and Niger...
Pity we don't have the same standards in the defence force that we had 30 years ago. Perhaps it is time that the government called on ex SADF people to assist in training? Of course the government will have to change it's tune on the way forward for our country like stop treat minorities as the enemy. Just a thought.... we had the best when it came to bush warfare and were extremely effective.
That will be the best way forward.
Phone Donald Trump - he will sort this out
Sadf only kill people who fight for their land
@@danielprinsloo2917 he can't even sort himself out lol 😂
@@mphomothapo646 SANDF you mean
We cover South Africa with the Blood of Jesus Christ. Nothing like that here in Jesus Mighty Name....
We also pray for our brothers in Mozambique
Africa must UNITE to fight back
South Africa will hold its own
The problem is not Islam or insurgents. It is about the resources in the region. Foreign Corporate interests are in conflict with the ousted communities
Thank you Anthony. You are correct. What frightens me is how ignorant the general masses are. They swallow every word coming out of the mainstream media without question. How very sad.
@@ebrahimtootla7505 Yes The media is used to plant a false narrative in the minds of people- to justify the use of heavily armed corporate agents.
Us old SADF vets will have dust off our browns.
The SANDF only operate between 08:00-14:30, Mon to Fri. Slightly overweight and not trained won't be much of a help.
SANDF is Only good at singing.
You want us to use old brandy and coke drunk people.. really now.. those vets are probable in their 50s..
Well, who do u think sorted out Boko Haram in Nigeria.....?
@@gregmenego2200 boko haram is still killing people i borno state
@@gregmenego2200 I'm NIgeria Boko Haram is live and well.
In the SANDF, THE word "strike" takes on a whole new meaning.
"We're on strike."
Kkk
@@anelemalakibungu8034 Sorry, luv. I only mock. Not destroy or take what isn't mine.
Surprise surprise!...
Now, the truth !!!?
Thanks for cheering us up!
If you need some cheering up, watch cartoons.
@@MartinezzJT cartoons are even more depressing! 😵
@@lynncw9202 I mean the old ones like Tom n Jerry -just to fool the mind a little bit.
@@MartinezzJT oh yes. Those were fun.
Even though RSA is actually a strong country, it's not a very smart one, by the time they decide to fight back, half the population would be dead. That concerns me a lot.
In what way is SA a strong country?
We have lots and lots of private firearms.
Yes a straight answer I work 8 years in The Middle East , first hand knowledge
South Africa one of the most beautiful Countries in the World I met hard men there that got tears recounting what Mozambique was like in the day.
God Bless You 🇬🇧
A holistic response is highly unlikely. More likely that a military option will be preferred.
Haha be my guest , sex pat
They must try South Africa if they want but that day sun will fall from sky!
What?? 🤔
@@pavitashergill8308 yes you heard me Pavita and i'm dead serious!
@@jurodahgabriel1816. No I didn't. And I'm deadly serious.
@@pavitashergill8308 you need to do something about your hearing
@@jurodahgabriel1816 in life you have to do a lot of things.. Making sense would a good start for you. God bless you.
No chance.... they will be pushed out of Mozambique eventually. Both countries are majority Christian. It’s just the exploitation of weak armed forces in the area.
🇿🇦🔥please hand them over to us ...they must enter via umtubatuba
Let's meet em in bloem,and then we call the saps
So,how safe is Kruger National Park.Easy route to South Africa.
Have you any idea of the distsnce between Cabo Del Gado and the Kruger.
@@johngoosen1962 Not far enough.
Would interesting to allow media into any army barracks of their choice to see first hand just how spick n span, kitted out and how fit and disciplined the soldiers are presently.
My question is where does the Muslim community in South Africa fall within this. Will they be easily turned? What is the their thoughts points and views.
Stop questioning and anylizing from ur bedroom, fighting has begun. If ur a real man, get ur passport & enter the battlefield.
@@jaguajeff1568 your crazy what battlefield
Islam has no dealings with ISIS. Those guys are doing evil in the name of islam. Im a muslim.Those scum bags are not muslims. If you read the Quraan and Hadith it says to take a life is like taking the life of all humanity and to save a life is like saving all humanity. It so sad what these scum bags are doing. I pray to GOD that something must be done about them.
@@s.adawah2392 Thank you for condemning it publicly.
There will be''no comment.''
First what's the motive of these terrorists?? Who's sponsoring them with the weapons? Who's training them?. Why is terrorism mostly taking place in oil rich countries?
We are safe. EFF needs to be immobilized and deployed to our borders immediately. The time has come for EFF.
Eff Julius malema wants South Africa to remove it's boarders such a stupid Leader
😂😂😂😂EFF
@@Sihle_Gamer_ZA Jm is far from a leader. He is a waste of space.
Yes,time for EFF to prove their allegiance to the SA citizens....They are revolutionary fighters, yes?
AND The ANC TO!!
Excellent report! Factual and dispassionate. Thank you
Executive Outcomes has recently opened up again for business, they might be the solution to this particular problem...
You think a problem that even SADC can't solve will be handled by a bunch of mercenaries ?
@@thirdworldrebel the militaries of that region couldn`t fight their way out of a wet paper bag, they are less than useless and far too open to corruption, EO did great work against insurmountable odds in Sierra Leone so these thugs should prove to be no problem at all to remove permanently from the area!
@@ca9968 calling them "thugs" shows what an armchair general you are
@@thirdworldrebel hahahaha
And you backing "people" that see it fit to behead civilians tells me exactly what you are...
@@ca9968 I'm not backing them, don't get it twisted. I'm just being real, these are well equipped and determined terrorists not thugs. FYI, am a veteran, and I know what I'm talking about. Your EO heroes will be eaten like raisins by these men
Banganya NYI!
It will Never😅in SA
Teamwork and discipline is the key to military success, also in soccer. As bad as our national soccer team perform because off poor discipline just as bad will the military perform.
the dutch play brilliantly what are you talking about.
Willem's sound is very soft.
Will do!
Perhaps this is the first step for ISIS to set up a new homeland by taking over Mozambique? Mozambique does not have the capacity to stop this everyone else who has the capacity (we in SA don't) don't want to get involved. So perhaps it is a strong likelihood. This could cause refugees to stream into SA, pushing our already strained resources over the edge and leading to xenophobia which then leads to mayhem. I hope it doesn't happen, but I am not too sure. Let us hear the opinions.
It is definately going to happen. Just look around the world? The ''endangered community'' will make sure of it. The trojan horse is already in the midst of most western countries, even in our small towns and indigeous villages.
South Africa has been terrorised for years now with all the violent crime. I don't think this new "threat" is distinguishable.
Let them try us and see if they will succeed here in South Africa & shame to those who have never been in SANDF Military who just comment through hate. We Are not scared we can handle them easy .
Thanks Mr Smith words of encourages me , I'm scared, may God protect and give SANDF power to protect SA
@@saratjale8496 it's my pleasure Sara and as a person you have to be scared but like I said this doesn't mean we are weak yet we have one of the best Military in world and in Africa too. We are the one's who always make peace whenever other African countries are facing civil wars and I am talking about the likes of DRC and others, Why ? Because we are strong . Relax and I wish you all the best with your family .
I don't know most unstable African countries are rich in natural resources like Congo, Somalia, south Sudan, Libya and now we see what is going on in southern Africa trying to stop 60 billion developmental project in Mozambique the deal is much bigger than ''Small terrorist group vs national ARMY demanding international help'' my continent when will we understand these backlog projects?
Islamist have been in South Africa loooooong ago, what you talking about? They dont have problems with South Africa. We know who's behind all this anyway. The government's knows also. People are not as numb as they were 20years ago.
Asiboyiki thina abafo sinawo nama phara😆😆
The president needs to send in the men from 5 Special Forces Regiment to deal with those terrorists before this gets out of hand and spills over into our porous borders.
Yah SA can be next we don't have strong solders in this country maybe we can have good war weapons and facilities but not strong and brave solders because SA government think that its a certificate fighting the war while there are strong and brave who doesn't have qualifications instead of recruite and train them he focus on the qualifications.
Uyabheda
@@lekholokoelekotsoanamoloi9593 kubheda unyoko
@@nkosinathizincume2743 she has passed on . Uyisibhedani nje .
No need for SA army, cash in transit armedrobbers will take them
Awufuni sikolo wena. Just go to school man noba ufumene u H
Its all sooo tragic David.
I said that 6 years ago, cape Town will be targeted like the water front but South Africa will wait till something happens before they wake up
I feel sorry for the displaced families who lost their lived ones. One on one killing all over again...
Good question
God have mercy in Mozambique
😶its really sad
It's coming
Those rebel will die in South Africa ....
Beside SANDF as South African we have group that can defeat those rebels ... we have Zulus , Colored , Sothos and many ... South Africa is not a playing group for rebels
It's definitely a problem if other part of Africa is examined,Libya has affected the western and even north East region as transit routes with splinter in Egypt Tunisia and Morocco.
Ethiopia was helping Somali then they tried Kenya now moved to Mozambique and are eyeing Zimbabwe Zambia and if possible sA
South Africa should get involved!...This shit is on our doorstep our neighbors are dying our fellow South Africans are dying... Prevention is better than cure...we should go there and do what needs to be done!...
If you look at this more local fighters are involved with the support of so called ISIL with weapons,the biggest problem here is gas wealth,in SA we don't fighting for gas ,the only this might spil over here it's if we get involved then we open ourselves for suicide bombings and the like but full take over our security forces might look weak because we not at war with anyone at the moment but they still pack a punch
Lol thy will get bored here in RSA we are used to this boom's for example ATM plus our crime it's like u are in a war zone and we are full of resistance it's on our blood the bore HV gaven us hard times what makes u think will fear terrorism
Only SADC countries we must be 💪together on this issue before be worse
SADC is useless . Lesotho and Zimbabwe have been bleeding for over 2 decades now and no one cares . It seems easier to blame illegal immigrants not the root cause . Only a few would just move away from their home and decide to live in a foreign land
I think is time for christian to start have their own christina militants
Why are you mentioning South Africa on this thing of yours?
Tokyo Sexwale has an island there apparently. Thats probably why SAs government is suddenly so heavily involving itself there. Coz when hurricanes hit Mozambique, SA is strangely quiet. But now skielike its vocal? Sometbing is fishy here
I cant wait, give the place to them, they cant do a worst job than the ANC...
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It would be the an interesting way of getting rid of the ANC.
Turn Zimbabwe back into Rhodesia and rid the continent of commies and radical islam
@Sam • I bet you play rugby with a scrum cap and white boots...oh wait a minute....your to scared to play a real mans sport
@Sam • Come on down to The Republic of Texas
Better a devil u know than the one u don't. At least we still in our homes with warm food & roof under our heads. 😞😞.
@@rogerwilcoxii359 Commies and radical Islam is in plenty. What a cursed land
When ISIS activates through various allegiances all the way down in Mozambique, SA is not that far. They exploit well local problems that remain unresolved, establish themselves in weak spots first, then attack the strong areas. It is imperative to address local issues before these allegiances, and prevent any foreign infiltration with a very strong intervention. It is clear that help came from outside and the locals who invited them will be the next victims as they will lose total control. Study the case of Mali.
What gives these people the right? It's just sickening!
WERE SCREWED
Hope they don’t touch SA soil 🇿🇦🇺🇸
Such a sad reality of what mankind has become .......
I doubt there is any worries about such terrorists coming to SA. You have to first ask why Mozambique? Answer - The second largest natural gas reserves in the world. These terrorists are there because they are funded by someone who wants those Natural Gas reserves. These terrorists could wipe out the useless Zim army in half a day to occupy Zim, but yet they have no interest in doing so, telling us that Northern part of Mozambique is the only thing of concern to these terrorists.
Zulus are not child's play
Not only zulus
Where do they come from? Tanzania!
Neva we fight in SouthAfrica we dnt run
Yes they after South Africa.
Why even ask such a question? 🤔
How can this happen in 2021
You should start watching those mosques thr in s africa.
True...
WE are in it aready.
I don't think South Africa is under this sort of threat. The majority of South Africans tolerate each other, religiously. There's no such thing as fundamental believers, who are extreme in enforcing their religion. I think any foreigner living in south africa, is smart enough not to try anything in our soils, because they know that native South Africans are more than capable to clear out any hostile personal that might seek to start such trends. Without involving the police or military, citizens oSouth Africa can defend themselves against terrorist threats effectively. Especially in KZN. The social structures of Zulu people and hostels are structured and united enough to recruit willing man to defend the country in a moments notice
South Africa can always send RENAMO to sort them out.
banganya
Nyi nyi nyi🤞
EFF, MK will sort them out. Just kidding, I think we have big problems coming for South Africans.
Forget, SA is a Settlers Colony... Protected Interests!
We dont need someone to attack us we the anc have been at war with S Africa . We dont have a defence force anyway
Ask The Gods.
They can’t try that with SA. SA is is equipped with trained PMC ready to counter attack.
Eish I hope so
Where is SA army? Police is useless, Army's trucks are broken down and no petrol. Cele and Malema with his thousands of supporters can go and fight there
😂😂😂. Bangabona umhlolo 😂😂😂
Yyeeey konyiwa sbali😂😂😂😂😂😂👍🏾
We will activate operation "Nyis_the_Msunuries"
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Banganya rhaa
Makunyiwe nje one time 🤣🤣, ng'ba linde ngamehlo abomvu 🔫.
Send in Executive Outcomes.
How is it that the Mozambique military is not there to take some action against the insurgence?
Maybe they working together
We already have it from the north when the ANC took over. Hopefully it will not come from Mozambique as they have been busy with their insurgency for many years as well. The old SANDF used to counter their efforts, but I doubt it these days.
Its very clear that Stephen McGown, who warned SADC and RSA about this risk, has sadly been proven right. He was held hostage for 6 years, and has the closest to first hand knowledge compared to any of these experts... Reach out to him...
S.A next?doubtful.. we got more gangsters than the bloods,cribs,east vs west etc..
This is bad but did anyone notice that one guys books seem color coded?
Yip.
Oh resources....
...meanwhile......elsewhere in the world, Meghan Markle is upset because somebody said something about her.....
Credo mutwa has been saying this before he died.
we need to wake tf up
Had mugabe been alive it could have been a different story