I think you should run the honey pump. Place a sump between the wax press and the extractor. Then, use the pump to move the honey to the settling tank. No more lifting buckets of honey into the settling tank. Either way, nice set-up and great video.
Yes. That's the standard way. Decant from extractor/wax cappings press into sump then pump to settling tank, but I just don't have the floor space for pump/sump and find I can more than keep up with decanting 30 litre buckets as the uncapping is automated and frees me up to move the buckets
I spent many years extracting honey in a dilapidated shed with a hot knife and a hobbyist's extractor - no running water, no heat/AC and no way to keep bees out. I then strained and bottled in my kitchen. What an enormous waste of time and effort!! I finally got to a point of all-in or all-out with beekeeping - either I invest in a proper honey house and equipment like yours or I get out, altogether. I chose the latter. Congratulations on your fantastic honey house and spectacular collection of equipment!! Thanks for creating and sharing another great video!!
Larry. You’re video output is remarkable if not borderline ocd. Don’t get me wrong, they’re good, it’s just that you need another hobby mate or risk a family intervention 😆
Haha! Helen - is that you masquerading as Alan R? LOL I do post a lot of videos but they take less time than people think. For example, I filmed today for 2.5 hrs flat - got 13 videos! There is no planning or anything. Just rock up with the gear
Are you sure your not sponsored by Lyson? 😜🤣 Great set up in a compact space. I’m very lucky to be able to use my Dads honey room saves a lot of money!
I've been looking at building a shed to extract in as the 3x2m utility room is a bit on the wee side 😂 I'm going through the building regs and was wondering how you got round the waste water stuff? My understanding is we really don't want to put wax down the normal drains. Do you collect it somewhere?
Hi Laurence, Great video thanks. Question: What would you suggest the minimum distance from bees to a honey room? I have very limited space. Thinking of splitting the apiary with a high net fence - bees on one side and shed for extracting , jarring and candles on the other. I would be interested to hear your thoughts buzz. Is it crazy to even consider close proximity to the bees?!
Wow, Laurence, such an amazing setup you've got! Lyson is top quality brand, so if you treat it well it will last forever (and it looks that you do, because it's shiny as if it was brand new). Also the distribution of the room is very clever, you've maximized the space so well. Bravo!
How long till a setup like this pays for itself . I know this question might seem a bit impertinent but I'm wondering if you live off selling honey or equipment or both or other ,like you obviously weren't afraid of spending money, and your setup is dazzling.
you can use LEAN and isx sigma methodologies and conduct time and motion studies to improve the efficiency....i think the height of the first machine is more and if there is space the loosener can be in placed in between the capping press and the extractor
Can the uncapper do all the frames eg Langstroth national commercial or are you restricted to one type please. Same with the extractor thanks hope everything goes well.
Hi Laurence, the top comes off the extractor quite easily. You can then lift out the spindle. Not necessary in most seasons obvs, but does allow a very thorough clean. Great room, great video 👍
G'day Laurence, love your setup. Looks like you thought it through well, before you put this one into action. Being a restaurant owner, I appreciate all your gleaming, clean shiny equipment and surfaces. Cheers!
I can absolutely confirm that soft set honey is amazing. I put the last spoonful on my toast this morning 😂. The room looks excellent and definitely wouldn't want your bill for all that equipment either😳
So you never knew the beauty of hand kranking on 40c , 30m from the hives, at age 7,8,10... on some tini island that 30 hives can cover.. Or the buzzz in your head for days and nights after it
Hi Lawrence, I'm thinking of writing a book for bee keepers..... "How to bee proof your honey house in 873 simple steps" you face doing the foreword. lol
V nice.. looks like you have quite a decent production capacity.. but since you ask.. I would have my extractor situated higher so I could run it into my storage buckets directly.
How do you mean? Honey out of the extractor needs filtering prior to to storage, else it needs filtering post storage. We in fact do both as a double precaution but the extractor can get fit a 80lb bucket underneath it? Why does it need to be any higher?
Wow ! what’s the heat in there when all that’s going you may need air conditioning if we get a hot summer as you said the power trips if run to much kit you mite need a back up power source those little bees are just amazing they have definitely changed your life.
I have mostly national supers but recently bought commercial supers as they are easier assembled and hold more honey in one lift compared to national, so I am nearly half and half now. All deeps national BTW. I hope to expand more and more every year and will probably need an uncapper at some point. How big was your operation when you got the uncapper? and is there ones out there that would take commercial and national? I seen a chain uncapper that I think might work. Would love to hear your valued opinion
Hi Lawrence, very professional setup you’ve got for yourself there mate, looks like you have payed for the very best yes lyson is top notch and well made none of the plastic equipment you see on some sites , If I was 30 years younger and had a lot of your get up and go we could be in competition with each other but alas I’m a lot older and I’m happy with my 17 hives and my second hand honey spinner I’ve converted to take a drill instead of hand cranking. Thank you Lawrence for all your hard work and dedication you have for your subscribers and all the good work you do with your bees.
Really interesting. On seeing the work and your effort that goes into your honey extraction process. A one man (plus nephew), production line. Impressive. P. S my mother in law is loving her Christmas present honey gift set!!
Revamp looks to be a great layout, but seeing all those sockets at the on position when nothing plugged in..... Enjoying your soft set honey just a little more than the borage but only had a little of each so far., So your creamer is doing a great job.
Smashing out the videos Laurence! Congrats on 10k. Can I ask where you ordered your Lyson extractor from? It looks very similar to or possibly the same as the ones for sale on the Abelo website?
Nice little compact and functional honey room/house It took me 10 hours to extract, jar and label my 4 supers in August last year 🙃 I don't think I can go semi commercial on my set up, but my total set only cost me close to £300 I guess yours cost a touch more 😅
looks great! clean look to it, and a lot more spacious without all those honey supers! I honestly don't know how your gonna work in such a tight spot! could I ask where you got your lino and the cladding from? many thanks
Love you videos and how open u are with how you do your honey extraction and operation. I am in the process of starting my own beekeeping operation here in my country and these videos are very helpful as didn’t even know about a creamer machine.
That is one great setup, i am just building my honey extraction room and i was a bit worried i did it to small. But i see now with a similar setup as you have, it will work just fine - Thanks for sharing.
Hi laurence, looks great, I purchased the heated 50 litre creamer and its been a bug hit. When I dump a 20 litre pail i have been removing the motor and lid as I prop the bucket so it can drain any thoughts ? Was thinking of weldin up some bucket holders wide enough for rim of creamer??
With the Karndean flooring, did you seal it as well? I have Amtico flooring in my hallway and kitchen and didn’t realise it wasn’t sealed when installed. So I do it once a year. Then when it’s looking a bit worn, just strip it back and reseal it again. It will last a lifetime then :)
Very nice set up Laurence. In the process of upgrading my equipment and have gone with a 32 frame Logar automated extractor & a Swienty Dana Api Matic 1000 with 45cm turntable. I will be speaking to Abelo about a creamer, Apimelter & settling tank. Can’t wait to get it all into use 👍.
@@BlackMountainHoney I’m going to connect to a tank as I typically bottle larger batches and it would frustrate me having to keep stopping to refill the funnel.
@@BlackMountainHoney was fed up borrowing the association hand crank extractor so we invested in the extractor, lyson wax melter (small one) and an uncapping tray
This was an awesome video! I’ve not seen one yet that shows the equipment and setup and how it’s used. How many hives did you have before you decided on setting up a honey house?
Haha.. It’s so much fun to run before we can walk! I think I’m doing that myself but on a smaller scale. I started with one last year, which needed splitting into three. Next thing I know half my house is filled with things like a honey extractor and other smaller pieces of equipment that take up a lot of space in my living room lol. Time to figure things out for real.
I think you should run the honey pump. Place a sump between the wax press and the extractor. Then, use the pump to move the honey to the settling tank. No more lifting buckets of honey into the settling tank.
Either way, nice set-up and great video.
Yes. That's the standard way. Decant from extractor/wax cappings press into sump then pump to settling tank, but I just don't have the floor space for pump/sump and find I can more than keep up with decanting 30 litre buckets as the uncapping is automated and frees me up to move the buckets
I spent many years extracting honey in a dilapidated shed with a hot knife and a hobbyist's extractor - no running water, no heat/AC and no way to keep bees out. I then strained and bottled in my kitchen. What an enormous waste of time and effort!! I finally got to a point of all-in or all-out with beekeeping - either I invest in a proper honey house and equipment like yours or I get out, altogether. I chose the latter. Congratulations on your fantastic honey house and spectacular collection of equipment!! Thanks for creating and sharing another great video!!
Thanks Jwoodyr! Sometimes I think like the latter may be bliss! LOL
Is Uncapping machine also Lyson?
Yes. Everything is Lyson
Larry. You’re video output is remarkable if not borderline ocd. Don’t get me wrong, they’re good, it’s just that you need another hobby mate or risk a family intervention 😆
Haha! Helen - is that you masquerading as Alan R? LOL
I do post a lot of videos but they take less time than people think.
For example, I filmed today for 2.5 hrs flat - got 13 videos! There is no planning or anything. Just rock up with the gear
@@BlackMountainHoney 2 1/2 hours filming? You were supposed to take the kids swimming! That it ! I’m going home to mother !!! 😂😂😂
@@alanr6529 LOL! 😀
Are you sure your not sponsored by Lyson? 😜🤣 Great set up in a compact space. I’m very lucky to be able to use my Dads honey room saves a lot of money!
Ha! Not far from it :D
I've been looking at building a shed to extract in as the 3x2m utility room is a bit on the wee side 😂 I'm going through the building regs and was wondering how you got round the waste water stuff? My understanding is we really don't want to put wax down the normal drains. Do you collect it somewhere?
yea that uncapper is no good but i will take it of your hands for a couple of pounds !}
Haha! :D
Hi Laurence, Great video thanks. Question: What would you suggest the minimum distance from bees to a honey room? I have very limited space. Thinking of splitting the apiary with a high net fence - bees on one side and shed for extracting , jarring and candles on the other. I would be interested to hear your thoughts buzz. Is it crazy to even consider close proximity to the bees?!
Absolutely - do everything you can to avoid this. It will be a nightmare come extracting time rendering the shed mostly unusable
Blimey . Thank you . I’ll have to put my thinking cap on .
Wow, Laurence, such an amazing setup you've got! Lyson is top quality brand, so if you treat it well it will last forever (and it looks that you do, because it's shiny as if it was brand new). Also the distribution of the room is very clever, you've maximized the space so well. Bravo!
Thanks ADP
How long till a setup like this pays for itself .
I know this question might seem a bit impertinent but I'm wondering if you live off selling honey or equipment or both or other ,like you obviously weren't afraid of spending money, and your setup is dazzling.
you can use LEAN and isx sigma methodologies and conduct time and motion studies to improve the efficiency....i think the height of the first machine is more and if there is space the loosener can be in placed in between the capping press and the extractor
Can the uncapper do all the frames eg Langstroth national commercial or are you restricted to one type please. Same with the extractor thanks hope everything goes well.
You are restricted on the uncapper. Some extractors take different sizes. Most will fit in my one
Hi Laurence, the top comes off the extractor quite easily. You can then lift out the spindle. Not necessary in most seasons obvs, but does allow a very thorough clean. Great room, great video 👍
Cheers Dave.
G'day Laurence, love your setup. Looks like you thought it through well, before you put this one into action. Being a restaurant owner, I appreciate all your gleaming, clean shiny equipment and surfaces. Cheers!
Thanks Michelle. Shiny! :D
I can absolutely confirm that soft set honey is amazing. I put the last spoonful on my toast this morning 😂. The room looks excellent and definitely wouldn't want your bill for all that equipment either😳
Glad you enjoyed the soft set. I am very pleased with how it comes out now. Consistently smooth
Do you jar all your honey straight after extracting rather than extracting to tubs?
How many beehives do you process a year
plz make a video showing the whole process
So you never knew the beauty of hand kranking on 40c , 30m from the hives, at age 7,8,10... on some tini island that 30 hives can cover.. Or the buzzz in your head for days and nights after it
Ive done a bit of hand cranking but not on an island! LOL Sounds awesome
How do you filter the honey before jarring?
Hi Lawrence, I'm thinking of writing a book for bee keepers..... "How to bee proof your honey house in 873 simple steps" you face doing the foreword. lol
Haha! Count me in. Can I write it under a pseudonym? Creaky McFloorGap
V nice.. looks like you have quite a decent production capacity.. but since you ask.. I would have my extractor situated higher so I could run it into my storage buckets directly.
How do you mean? Honey out of the extractor needs filtering prior to to storage, else it needs filtering post storage. We in fact do both as a double precaution but the extractor can get fit a 80lb bucket underneath it? Why does it need to be any higher?
Wow ! what’s the heat in there when all that’s going you may need air conditioning if we get a hot summer as you said the power trips if run to much kit you mite need a back up power source those little bees are just amazing they have definitely changed your life.
Yes - I am going to mount an AC unit this year :D
I have mostly national supers but recently bought commercial supers as they are easier assembled and hold more honey in one lift compared to national, so I am nearly half and half now. All deeps national BTW. I hope to expand more and more every year and will probably need an uncapper at some point. How big was your operation when you got the uncapper? and is there ones out there that would take commercial and national?
I seen a chain uncapper that I think might work.
Would love to hear your valued opinion
our uncapper is national only. Not sure there are any that can do both
Nice equipment and the review for the jacket was comprehensive. I agree about the sizes for xxl normally just being a bigger waist or chest.
Drives me mad. XXL tummy. XS arms
Hi Lawrence, very professional setup you’ve got for yourself there mate, looks like you have payed for the very best yes lyson is top notch and well made none of the plastic equipment you see on some sites , If I was 30 years younger and had a lot of your get up and go we could be in competition with each other but alas I’m a lot older and I’m happy with my 17 hives and my second hand honey spinner I’ve converted to take a drill instead of hand cranking. Thank you Lawrence for all your hard work and dedication you have for your subscribers and all the good work you do with your bees.
Thanks Mark! :D
Really interesting. On seeing the work and your effort that goes into your honey extraction process. A one man (plus nephew), production line. Impressive. P. S my mother in law is loving her Christmas present honey gift set!!
Glad to hear Peter :D
Revamp looks to be a great layout, but seeing all those sockets at the on position when nothing plugged in.....
Enjoying your soft set honey just a little more than the borage but only had a little of each so far., So your creamer is doing a great job.
Haha! Does that bother you :D Mmm. I like both of the soft sets. The borage is slightly less smooth but I like the flavour
Smashing out the videos Laurence! Congrats on 10k.
Can I ask where you ordered your Lyson extractor from? It looks very similar to or possibly the same as the ones for sale on the Abelo website?
Abelo are the UK agents for Lyson..Everything comes through them. Highly recommended 👌 👍 👏 💯
Nice little compact and functional honey room/house
It took me 10 hours to extract, jar and label my 4 supers in August last year 🙃
I don't think I can go semi commercial on my set up, but my total set only cost me close to £300 I guess yours cost a touch more 😅
Only a couple of extra zeros :D
looks great! clean look to it, and a lot more spacious without all those honey supers! I honestly don't know how your gonna work in such a tight spot! could I ask where you got your lino and the cladding from? many thanks
Its from Whitecladding.co.uk
Love you videos and how open u are with how you do your honey extraction and operation. I am in the process of starting my own beekeeping operation here in my country and these videos are very helpful as didn’t even know about a creamer machine.
Thanks Frass
How big is the room?
That is one great setup, i am just building my honey extraction room and i was a bit worried i did it to small. But i see now with a similar setup as you have, it will work just fine - Thanks for sharing.
Hi laurence, looks great, I purchased the heated 50 litre creamer and its been a bug hit. When I dump a 20 litre pail i have been removing the motor and lid as I prop the bucket so it can drain any thoughts ? Was thinking of weldin up some bucket holders wide enough for rim of creamer??
Our bucket just fits in. Would be a handy mod. Be a nightmare having to take the motor off though
@@BlackMountainHoney
It is a pain but no room to set a bucket up to let drain
With the Karndean flooring, did you seal it as well? I have Amtico flooring in my hallway and kitchen and didn’t realise it wasn’t sealed when installed. So I do it once a year. Then when it’s looking a bit worn, just strip it back and reseal it again. It will last a lifetime then :)
No need to seal according to manufacturer
@@BlackMountainHoney that’ll save time and £££ then
Your face says your are the cat that got the cream and so would i
I am very lucky indeed! :D
I can imagine all this equipment together is expensive.
Yes. Quite a few £££
Nice tour - well filmed. Thanks,
Glad you enjoyed it
Laurence, would be cool to see it all in action though!
Will have it sorted this season :D
Very nice set up Laurence. In the process of upgrading my equipment and have gone with a 32 frame Logar automated extractor & a Swienty Dana Api Matic 1000 with 45cm turntable. I will be speaking to Abelo about a creamer, Apimelter & settling tank. Can’t wait to get it all into use 👍.
Great set up! Are you running the api matic with the funnel or connecting into a tank?
@@BlackMountainHoney I’m going to connect to a tank as I typically bottle larger batches and it would frustrate me having to keep stopping to refill the funnel.
@@JimCinUK Defo! That funnel is fiddly 😉
One day I want a room like this! Kitchen will have to do for now haha
Its worth it :D
What does a good setup like that cost laurence
£30-35k
Lots of fancy kit 😍
So glad you give a thumbs up to lyson as we just took delivery of a 12 frame lyson
You will be very happy with it! :D
@@BlackMountainHoney was fed up borrowing the association hand crank extractor so we invested in the extractor, lyson wax melter (small one) and an uncapping tray
Would really like to see the Meliflow in action 👍
Will do it this year
This was an awesome video! I’ve not seen one yet that shows the equipment and setup and how it’s used. How many hives did you have before you decided on setting up a honey house?
Thanks Karen. We tried to run before we could walk. Was about 50 hives and didnt need such a dedicated space but it really helped.
Haha.. It’s so much fun to run before we can walk! I think I’m doing that myself but on a smaller scale. I started with one last year, which needed splitting into three. Next thing I know half my house is filled with things like a honey extractor and other smaller pieces of equipment that take up a lot of space in my living room lol. Time to figure things out for real.
Investment Cost? Size of Room? Supers Throughput?
CIrca £30k. 4.5m x 2.8m. We do around 100-150 a day
How many supers over a full season?
Youre workspace is squeaky clean! Very impressive.
Would like to see if working 😊 thanks for the video 😊
Nice setup!
Cheers Justin
awesome equipment