Five Varieties of Persimmons aka Kaki Fruit
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- John of www.okraw.com picks a fuju persimmon in his backyard and then takes you inside to share with you 4 other varieties of persimmons including the Hachiya, Tsurunoko, Amagaki, Giant Fuyu and Common Fuyu Persimmon. He shares with you the rare Chocolate Persimmon that is so delicious. You will also learn other interesting facts about the persimmon.
He must not know about the kind that we have in Indiana, where Winters are harsh. Impossible to eat until they're ripe, and then they're impossibly gooey and messy to work with to extract the pulp. But a delicacy and so traditional that at least one Indiana town has an annual persimmon festival.
I also live in Indiana, and am obsessed with American Persimmon. Would you know which town has the annual persimmon festival? Sorry, I realized your post was 4 years ago.
Yup, I am thinking the same about Illinois. I have 6 trees in my yard that have been here for a very long time.
I've been buying frozen Korean persimmons from a local specialty grocery store and have found their taste to be really captivating. Not exactly sure which variety it is, but when you defrost it, it really has a sweet taste and is soft and easy to bite into. I'm hooked on the taste, so maybe I'll plant a persimmon tree!
Yes, I have picked American Persimmons. They are much smaller and very astringent unless optimally ripe. They can be considered more "wild" than hybridized like the asian varieties.
Now to find the fruit in Pennsylvania. Will be motivated. Wonderful Chico. Thanks.
This video is so informative. I learned a lot about other varieties that I did not know existed. Your having a visual example of each was great.
I just had this fruit for the first time in my life today and it was very sweet.
i love chico!!! i give persimmons to my dog, milo, all the time!! thanks for the info, chico!!! ^_^
I enjoyed these for the first time today.
Just bought some persimmons for the first time and I was trying to work out which type I had bought. Luckily I bought fuyu and bit into it and lovely so thank you for this as that mouthful could have been very different. My persimmons are from Spain.
Diospyros virginiana, the american persimmon can be grown in fairly cold climates (usda zones 4 - 9) with lots of snow and freezing temperatures for several months in winter. Many different varieties, colors and shapes of fruits are available in nurseries.
They grow in Northern Indiana
Fantastic video. 12 minutes on the persimmon - amazing. Just got the latest harvest from the inlaw's trees in Seoul. The varieties and all delish.
Ladybug girl, I have a tree in Portland, Oregon and has done well for over ten years. Average crop is 250-300 fruits per year
YOU ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUNNY AND JOHN IS A GOOOOOOOOD FRIEND TO GIVE YOU PERSIMMONS FOR DESERT . GO EAT EM CHICO ! JOHN YOU ARE WORLD CLASS AND A FAVORITE OF MY YOU TUBE
my dog loves persimmons too
This is one of your best vids, John.
Awesome video and very informational! Chico is awesome!
we grow American persimmons in kentucky. They are small, and I have found two different varieties when foraging. One taste like pumpkin pie and one taste like orange icy pops.
Why are American persimons so much smaller? I'm in TN and noticed the same thing.
Chico!!!!!!!!!!! My dog knows when I'm cutting carrots he comes running.
I love persimmons
But it says on internet that they can endure up to 4 zone of hardiness, that means up to minus 25 C. How they can't handle snow, if they can handle so big minus?
He doesn’t know what the hell he saying
Tresa Wildman... I'm from Mitchell, Indiana. :) I'm trying to learn how to plant a fuyu persimmon tree along with the 26 wild american persimmon trees we have on the farm.
I grow them in NJ just fine and we get lots of snow
Delgado2200 I like in nJ too where did you get the tree from? And do you get them thru December??
Lauren Nangano you can buy them at fast-growing-trees.com or if you want organic rolling river nursery they are both online and if you buy from the first place use the code DECFREE for free shipping!
I consider them both organic bc the fast growing trees are grafted so you can just plant in you're own organic soil, worm castings, and azomite!
@@lauren9714 I know this is an old post, but if you want to grow persimmons in a climate that has cold snowy winters, look for "Diospyros Virginiana" (American Persimmon) online. I think Oikostreecrops.com sells this variety. They also have a RUclips channel "Oikostreecrops" where they have videos all about them.
Would you mind sharing what persimmons you are able to grow and that produce well in NJ, please?
I watch your other channel John, just found this one looking for info on persimmons. Wonderful information and presentation! I'm in central Texas and we have native species here. But I'm determined to find the chocolate now! Looks delicious. :)
I learned a lot. Thank you okraw for sharing.
Excellent. Yes, I am one that loves the Amagaki. I live in WA, but go to California also. I am having a hard time finding anyone who can obtain the Amagaki. There was a store here, that carried it, but no more. I have not seen one in 20 years. They are much larger than others, and are more golden, with an occasional blueish blush. Flavor is so good. Can't find it online, either
Did you ever find it? I'm looking for sion wood.
In Southeast Asia the persimmon the color is more in yellowish color and have kind of have white powder on it skins. I think it's another variety
John you are the best
I don't know whos cuter, John or Chiko?! Great video John. I bit an astringent persimmon when I was young and always thought I hated them - now Im keen to grow a tree and try them thanks!!
Nice introduction to Persimmons ! Chico is one lucky dog! I live in the Northeast US , so I would probably have to try growing the native US varieties. Are there any cold resistant Asian types ?
Great video!
What i've got at my local store are Rojo Brillante Persimmons (from Spain). Apparently they are Astrengent, but... i don't want to take the risk. After doing a bit of reading, they are definitely astringent, but they treat them with CO2 for 24h at 20 deg.Celcius prior storage to remove astringency. But i've also read a study saying that at storage of 15 deg. celcius, the longer it's in storage, the less effective was the treatment. So i don't know exactly what to think afterall. I might try to put them in the freezer just like suggested
I'm sure it wasn't a bad one, just a bit ripe. The black spots are like a ripe banana. they're really sweet.
Thank you for sharing, I have 5 years old grow up from seeds persimmon trees,. Still has no fluids? What should I do?
Have 8 persimmon trees here in South Jersey
In order that the persimmon is more likely to ripen, you just need to put the persimmon fruit in a bag of apples for about 5-7 days and the fruits are ready.
Thank you John. This is one of the best video I have seen. So much information. Is it hard to grow it? How often do you fertilize it and with what kind of fertilizer?
i have a guava tree and my dog always goes to the tree and picks the when there ripe and eats them all the time its so funny and cut.
thanks i learned a lot from your video, cute dog
OMG you just said the word persimmons 745 times for 11 minutes.
Cute dog btw.
The Israeli persimmon a.k.a. sharon fruit is the best. It is being retailed at $30-00 for a pack of six.
Bought some Kaki fruits for the first time yesterday. Peeled one and ate about 8 oclock in the evening, By 10 oclock I was writhing in agony with stomach cramps and up all night with diarrohea. Now know why they are called Kaki.
I have only tried the Fuyu and Hachiya. I begin to search the other three. Thanks
It's growing wild here in the Carolinas.
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That's the native persimmon--it's very small and astringent. Delicious, but takes time to peel the little buggers. The trees are used as rootstock for the Japanese persimmons though, so that they will be hardier and grow well, I have 5 Japanese persimmons growing well in Raleigh NC.
I bet they're good in green smoothies. Do they freeze well?
I love persimmons so fucking much.
Great video, I am from UK and have had both astringent and non astringent kinds. Notice now, in some super markets they are selling a variety called Spanish persimon spelt with one m! Or Rojo Brillante Red, they are Orange though! It's the size and shape of haychia but is descibed as a fuyu, have you heard of that type?
Finally, persimmons demystified! Thank you! I was experimenting but was having trouble with the astringency. I got a couple that were so astringent that my tongue got fuzzy and I could hardly feel anything in my mouth :-) I didn't know what was going on. Then I learned there were two different kinds but I was waiting for the wrong kind to get really soft and it never did. Now I think I've got it! Sounds like if I hustle out tomorrow I'll still be able to find some before the season ends.
Nice & cute dog
ah so thats how persimmons tree aka pisang kaki look like! 👍
I love eating the round firm things in the middle.. I don't know what it is called though
John i bought some persimmons yesterday and they lookes gorgeous from the outside and ripe but when the flesh had black spots all over.. I am not sure was that a bad persimmon or just overriped? When i hold them in my hands they felt like pudding and they were nicely riped but only the black spots make me crazy...
Is the sweetness of the chocolate persimmon a bit cloying? I actually prefer rich complex flavors and like sweetness but not when it's so sweet, it just overpowers all other flavors in the fruit.
Hi,
I want to buy and plant a persimmon tree, variety Jiro, and I have some questions:
1. Can they be kept under control from the height & spread point of view? Meaning to not be taller than 2-2.5 meters.
2. Are they self-pollination trees, or they need a pair?
Thank you.
I've been looking to buy ”the Persimmon Leaf Tea” but I can't find it yet.
The Persimmon leaf tea is very good for your health - better than the green tea.
Thanks for the videos, can you tell me where to buy a Amagaki?
Una fruta bien rica, rica....y con una tapita de jamon, ni te digo!!! ;)
I enjoyed video very much. It was highly informative and entertaining at the same time. Thank you! Also, your dog looks gorgeous! I wonder, if you feed your pet vegan food? Looking forward to hearing from you! I plan to adopt a doggy soon and I'm not sure whether it is healthy for dog to eat a plant-based diet. Again, thank you and best regards from fellow fruitarian!
i've never seen seeds in the persimmons at my supermarket.
Seems like the ones sold in supermarket don't bear seeds (or if they do, they're black and tiny), We found a private grower and got some persimmons and they had fully developed seeds. I'm pretty sure it has to do with the growing process.
John, thank you much for the information about the persimmons. Quick question on the second one (chocolate persimmon) that you mentioned not to mixed up with the black sapote, do you have the name of that small second persimmon? I've been trying to find the tree and anytime I typed chocolate persimmon, I only saw black sapote. Thank you very much.
Lovely video.
Ahhw Chico the kakimuncher :P Nice video.
Very good information!
Great video. Very informative. Now I know something.
Love your videos and persimmons. Question: Where in the world can you buy a Amagaki Tree? I want my own. I am almost sad I went Fuyu now that I have tasted an Amagaki. Help please... Thanks! I'd rather not be stuck buying them at WF.
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Great Video. thx! :)
I found some today. They were very small, red and more flat and round than the acorn shape. I dont know what kind it is though.
natural bird feeder :) but which variety grows in super hot desert of Southern California (or Arizona desert) ?
people buy those? they grow wild in Arkansas when i was a kid we would get bucket fulls and throw them at each other i never ate one
I make wine with many fruits, from montana.. mom has this great tree and would like to try this fruit......peel no peel freeze or not ... i juice the fruit, should i freeze then or go fresh... picking tomorrow not all ripe what should i do or not do would love some input. thanks...
Hey -- At the store here they have persimmons sometimes -- I love them -- but they have a ton of diff. varieties...My fave is the Hachiya but you do have to wait until they are like jello-like mushy...The fuyu's are also great though. But they have this one kind, that I absolutely hate -- it's called "Kaki" and has a sticker on it that says "Persuasion" on it (spelled differently). These are so bad -- but I have a feeling I'm not waiting until it's ripe enough or something...But I've had two of them here for about a month and they don't appear to have changed much since I brought them home from the store. Are you familiar with the Spanish variety? I think they are also called "Vanilla Persimmons" but that might be yet another different variety...
Thx man! Been a while since a caught one of ur vids
I would use organza bags sometimes to cover them so birds don't eat them. I get them from ebay. Easy to put them on and remove...& reusable too.
Thanks for you inf....
I live close to Palm Springs, with temperatures during the summer reaching from 110 to 120 degrees , I ve been told the fuyu persimmon is the only one that can grow in my area, I know you live near Las Vegas, do you do anything to protect the fruit during the summer from the sun?
I thank you before hand and hope to hear from you
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very helpful info have lg hachiyia tree and wondering if you have any advise for making wine
SOFT/SWEET MEANS THE SUGAR HAS "SET"? THIS HAPPENS FOR VALENCIA ORANGES AND OTHERS.
can you tell me one thing??? what create so many different varietie for each type of fruit??? is it because they grown in different location and that make them become different variety???
Evolution. In one region, there were lots of fruit eating birds that did not like astringency, so astringent fruits dominated. In another region, the grow season was short, so small fruits predominated. And so on.
Yummy, love it.
Hi, where can I get ROJO BRILLANTE seeds from??. I want to grow them.
Can I graft an astringent Hychea with a sweet Fuyu??
Where can I find the chocolate persimmon tree to grow in my yard? Does it go by any other name besides chocolate persimmon?
Are Gaint Fuyu and Hana Fuyu same variety?
Jajajaj....Bienvenido al maravilloso mundo del Persimons!!!! Jajajaj...;))
Ye te volví a pillar!!! Jajajajja
I bought some and when I sliced them they look like the have a bunch of cinnamon, is that normal? Safe to eat?
great video
How can i ripa a haciya before rip it fall from tree.
slice 1cm thick and soak in vodka for a week, called Amagaki.
Hi. Are persimmons good when frozen ? How long should we dehydrate them when slices and when they aren't sliced?Thanks +okraw
Yessss I do this every year and it's the best taste you can imagine! No more needing to buy ice cream or popsicles!
can i eat the rind of them?
Poor info. Most can be grown almost anywhere in Texas and many other places too....not just California.
I'm Chinese the way I make the persimmon ripen is to put them in a bag with 1 apple
where u get all this type? hachiya i like them to eat like an apple... no astringent taste at all the one arrive here in iceland
Hey john ! How long would i freeze a hachiya for it to ripen ?
What about temperate Northern California, maritime climate? Will any varieties grow?
what temperature do you dehydrate your persimmons ?
How do we contact you to buy Persimmons or other products?!! I tried your website it just goes to RUclips videos..Your videos are great...but I want to contact! Phone?
where can i purchase a fuyu persimmons tree in the sf bay area?
I had a difficult time finding any Persimmon tree to plant in North Bay. I did find a "Fuyu" Persimmon tree in stock in Novato at Olive / Atherton Avenues. I believe the name is Green Point Nursery and the nursery supplies to landscape contractors but also open to the public.