She represents what a lot of people go through. She's not perfect, but tries to be a better person, but others put her down, so she deals with it by herself because no one, and not even her father, cares.
To be fair she’s 16, she’s an emotional mess same as everyone else and has magic on top of that, I mean damn she handles it better than 16 year old me would’ve l.
Yeah she does not have a mental illness , is just the darkness of her/their coven . One of the twins have way more darkness than the other .in Jo and Kai , Kai was the one that had more darkness , ine the other pair of twins which I dont remember the names i dont remember who had the darkness but I believe it was the girl and not the boy . My point is that all she has is the darkness of the gemini couvin and thats all , her sister doesnt have it in such big quantity
Everyone mistreated her even though she has a mental illness that is horrible I also think despite being bipolar as well she has identity disostive disorder which makes her seem so mean as well I mean some of it is her behaviour but I also think it could be that as well
So many keep saying she’s gonna be like kai but she’s not even in slightest. She’s just bipolar and actually gets blamed as a villain when he sister actually is kind of the villain and like kai. Like Josie told her do you really want dad to stop loving us. Like that’s way out of line
I really love Lizzie she is my favorite character from the first we both are so much alike she just need everyone to love just like they love hope and jo
all the comments says that lizzie will become like kai .. am I the only one who thinks that Josie is the one who would become a female version of kai ? 😂
Meray km the problem is that lizzie always had help, and is VERY aware of her difficulties. While josie never Got the same help, they never even thought she could end up with the same difficulties, nor is she herself aware of it.
always felt she was better than josie, yes she is emotional but nothing is wrong with that...at-least she expresses herself and doesn't blame others...as far as i can see her sister has more issues than her.
Girl they both got problems. Neither one is better than the other. Josie has an attraction to dark magic and even lizzie has admitted shes a narcissist and selfish. Yeah her mood swings is probably due to her being bipolar but it doesnt excuse that she was a flat out bitch. They both were so far down the co-dependency line that josie needed lizzie's selfishness and lizzie needed josie to keep submitting to her and enabling her. They both got issues. Its literally ingrained in their DNA. Plus they admitted to it on several occasions. Being a magical twin does not make life easy, especially when they were supposedly doomed to kill the other for literal dominance and power in the end. But they both have a good heart. Josie is too selfless even when she wants to be selfish she repeatedly puts others first. She balls up her emotions and lizzie is the opposite. She expresses herself without fail. But Lizzie doesn't think before she acts or speaks. She is selfish but shes also self aware and has a domineering character. Their personalities are opposite for a reason. Ergo, caroline - josette.
In my opinion, Josie has reached the point where the “under appreciated twin” card has become overused. I love her , but since so many ppl think she is under appreciated, Lizzie has become the under appreciated one Love em both with all of my heart
Wonder what happens if she turns into a girl version of Kai? It'll be interesting... Then Kai and her will be saying the same thing... *They decided that I was nothing but a piece of trash, well... Guess the best thing to do is to prove them right* Kai turned into a monster because his family turned their back on him when all he needed was love and attention... I don't really blame him for being the monster he is... Only an opinion
@@leoprincess9 and yet lizzie isn't the one who's manipulating and attacking people. You're right about lizzie's struggles, but that's just another reason why she's more likeable than josie
I'm the only one who thinks that Lizzie and Josie are both like Kai? Josie and Lizzie has the same darkness, Josie just showed it later than Lizzie. Josie stops control herself now and Lizzie is still Lizzie, even if she tries to hide it she is still sarcastic and selfish (i think at the good point). Josie slowly opens her darkness to others. I think Kai and both Saltsman sisters will get this connection, they are all have this darkness inside, no matter when they opened Pandora's box. (by the way, I'm sorry for my English, i speak another language)
i think the only reason everyone think jo is the one more like kai is because she used black majic other then that lizzie is more like kai she is diffrent kai was diffrent and its gonna take over her one day and shes gonna turn into kai
Lizzie was simply ignorant of other people's feelings and managed to become a better person all on her own. To summarize, josie is: possessive, a constant liar, fully aware of how her actions affect others, prone to violence, projects her failures onto others (particularly lizzie), acts even more like kai under the influence of dark magic (as i've observed after watching all three shows, dark magic only enhances the already present negative traits of each user). Despite constantly stating otherwise, josie has not shown any long term desire to learn from her mistakes, and even when she does apologize, she is quick to make it all about herself. Josie's definitely psychotic. However, seeing as how she overall prefers manipulation over violence and is good at day to to day interaction, i actually think she's more comparable to ruclips.net/video/aXnEoiTszJc/видео.html (or damon) instead of kai.
She is my favorite character and really I love her so much . There is one thing that I don't like, the other characters always do the wrong thing and put the blames on Lizzie. And always ignore her. Even when she is kind to them, they ignores her and they also put jokes on Lizzy bipolar disease. Even when She protected them from the beast, they did not like this, and they always see Jossie as the victim. Really, I am annoyed at this that she does not deserve this 🙄
Love her with all my heart, she was my second favorite after hope but I'm afraid she is taking hope's place. The one thing that she is gonna have more development like Caroline had but I hope she doesn't get those insecurities and compare her to hope like Caroline did most of the time with Elena, they better not spoil hope and lizzie. friendship.
Im actually like lizzie ALOT except for her mean girl side. so i get where shes coming from. I'm mad at alaric for never taking his time with his daughters seriously hes so busy with hope he never has time for lizzie. Yes I get josie spends all her time taking care of her. I mean josie and lizzie could be sisters with no issues if josie had just learned how to be come more confident about herself
She's selfish and controlling and sometimes just a huge bitch, but I'm starting to like her more and more and Josie less. Maybe it's just that I really love Hope and as her favor turns, so does mine. Maybe it's because, mostly in her friendship with Hope, I'm starting to see her develop in a very Caroline way. Whatever it is, I hope she continues to develop and her and Josie are about to pull together completely and fight for their future. (I've only made it up to 2x05).
I think ALL the Gemini twins in the coven have a certain darkness some control it better like Luke and josette but I think Josie josette and Luke are alike while Kai Lizzie and liv are alike. Josie is 5e nicer one more likely to be good jus like Luke and josette they always look out for others more than themselves and are jus more kind hearted even tho they all have their own issues n their darkness can unleash and don’t have the best childhoods they still try something they give in like Josie did but at the end they r the better most liked sibling. Now liv Lizzie n Kai have dis darkness dat is less controlled more bitchy and more likely to let their darkness get the best of them. Liv is bitchy n pushes others away and has trust issues n is more selfish than Luke though she still has emotions n feelings like wen her brother died but she let the darkness get the best of her n she tried to get revenge, she is also bitchy n more likely to lush others away like she did with Tyler. Like Lizzie she can also feel emotions and she tries but her emotions get the best of her, nobody liked her growing up and she pushed others away n is more likely to be selfish n be bitchy instead of showing her kind side and her big heart but sometimes she thinks she is broken n her darkness eats her up that. With Kai he had the worst childhood out of everyone he was the least accepted and felt like an outsider n he spent years In isolation that the trauma affects him so now he hurts others before they hurt him and he became a sociopath so he can stop feeling emotions or remorse bc he was treated horribly. He let the darkness get the best of him and so everyone stopped liking him n no one gave him a chance, he wanted to change n fight like liv and Lizzie but his last hope of humanity was Bonnie and she hurt him so he went off the deep end. They all have darkness and trauma bu some control it better and are more liked while the other r more evil n more likely to do mischief. It’s like Damon n Stefan, Stefan is Josie josette and Luke while Damon is more like Kai Lizzie and liv.
Kai is a psychopath. I think Lizzie may be bipolar so I don't think she'll go down the extreme. She clearly has some mental illnesses which most likely runs in one of the twins..
Well , look . The gemini couvin is hard , they have a darkness ' curse ' that is passed down to the one twin in a waay bigger quantity than the other . Kai had the bigger quantity ( than Jo ) of darkness. Here Lizzie has the bigger quantity of darnkess . Its not easy to control it . The bigger the quantity the harder
She does have mental illness stemming from the dark side of the Gemini’s, but it’s not to the extent that you can compare her to Kai.. if you wanna compare her to someone compare her to Liv, that’s actually a lot closer to her personality currently
@@dr.sadatullahkhan8213 how lizzie is diffrent and kai was diffrent in season three she probs gonna turn and lose it and turn into kai liv and caroline kai physco liv powerful caroline as a vampire but with all three she will lose control and go crazy
No offence I prefer Lizzie as a heretic then I would Josie she said she didn’t want to hurt people but if she became a heretic imagine her behave especially emotionless and if she played the football game emotionless and know one knew and she kills someone like another Dana imagine everyone’s face she I really want to see it sorry but Josie is to put well together like Caroline I reckon she could handle being a heretic well but Lizzie is a completely different story
You say Josie can handle being a heretic better than Lizzie when it's Josie who keeps on hurting everyone with the dark side of her and Lizzie is more like Caroline she has never hurt anyone on the show so she would clearly be a better heretic like her mom was a better vampire
Olivia K-A-Y 1998 Josie's pretty much like kai. She learned to fake it quite well over time because she wants everyone to see her as the better sister, but she doesn't have the mental capacity to feel any emotion whatsoever (well, except for brief moments of anger)
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She looks like her aunt Liv, has Caroline's personality and big heart mixed in with a bit of Kai's madness.
She represents what a lot of people go through. She's not perfect, but tries to be a better person, but others put her down, so she deals with it by herself because no one, and not even her father, cares.
I think her loved ones and friends care but they just don’t understand her the only people that did were mg and Sebastian
@@zaniyacummings2684 that makes more sense.
To be fair she’s 16, she’s an emotional mess same as everyone else and has magic on top of that, I mean damn she handles it better than 16 year old me would’ve l.
Yeah she does not have a mental illness , is just the darkness of her/their coven . One of the twins have way more darkness than the other .in Jo and Kai , Kai was the one that had more darkness , ine the other pair of twins which I dont remember the names i dont remember who had the darkness but I believe it was the girl and not the boy . My point is that all she has is the darkness of the gemini couvin and thats all , her sister doesnt have it in such big quantity
@@igotnogoodnametoreplacemyr6988 didnt they confirm she had bipolar disorder or sum
@@destinylivingstone8999 yes they mention it a lot, her disorder is rooted in her coven's magic but it is bipolar
@@igotnogoodnametoreplacemyr6988 Olivia and Luke
She is the most perfect and most beautiful character in this show and no one can say the opposite period(and the most powerful)
Hope
Honey yes she is beautiful but check up on your facts hope is a tribrid the most powerful ok?
briana estrela yeah but she is so annoying tho
briana estrela yet the LIGHT of attention and bashes ppl .
I was rooting for yoy we was all rooting for you until you said she was the most powerful😬
Everyone mistreated her even though she has a mental illness that is horrible I also think despite being bipolar as well she has identity disostive disorder which makes her seem so mean as well I mean some of it is her behaviour but I also think it could be that as well
So many keep saying she’s gonna be like kai but she’s not even in slightest. She’s just bipolar and actually gets blamed as a villain when he sister actually is kind of the villain and like kai. Like Josie told her do you really want dad to stop loving us. Like that’s way out of line
Dont end up like kai, dont end up like kai, dont end up like kai pleasseee
Honestly!!! I think she’s better than him because she actually cares for her sister despite her being a narcissist
She's so much better than Kai. She fights to be good every day. But I do think that if she met Kai they would connect
Josie will be the new Kai now if continues down the road she’s going this season
@@sheridangarcia8550 truth
Josie is more likely to become kai. Shes going off the deep end lately and using dark magic.
omg she's hurt too! But everyone just cares about Josie omg noo
I love Lizzie so much
I love her and Hope together , they are the best character in Legacies
I really love Lizzie she is my favorite character from the first we both are so much alike she just need everyone to love just like they love hope and jo
all the comments says that lizzie will become like kai .. am I the only one who thinks that Josie is the one who would become a female version of kai ? 😂
i feel like you’re so right
After the last couple episodes I think you're right.
Meray km EXACTLY❗️😂
Kai isn’t evil cause he practiced dark magic
Meray km the problem is that lizzie always had help, and is VERY aware of her difficulties. While josie never Got the same help, they never even thought she could end up with the same difficulties, nor is she herself aware of it.
I actually like Lizzie a lot especially in season 2 she has changed more and evolved I wonder if she became a heretic what she would be like
Was thinking the same thing
I love how they some how managed to include mental health in a supernatural show
always felt she was better than josie, yes she is emotional but nothing is wrong with that...at-least she expresses herself and doesn't blame others...as far as i can see her sister has more issues than her.
true , did you watch season 2 girl?
@@eya3477 sure did not very surprised by anything josie did but so loving lizzie and hope relationship best friend u could ask for
Ugh Josie makes me so angry like if anyone is selfish it's her and she always finds a way to treat Lizzie like shit
Girl they both got problems. Neither one is better than the other. Josie has an attraction to dark magic and even lizzie has admitted shes a narcissist and selfish. Yeah her mood swings is probably due to her being bipolar but it doesnt excuse that she was a flat out bitch. They both were so far down the co-dependency line that josie needed lizzie's selfishness and lizzie needed josie to keep submitting to her and enabling her. They both got issues. Its literally ingrained in their DNA. Plus they admitted to it on several occasions. Being a magical twin does not make life easy, especially when they were supposedly doomed to kill the other for literal dominance and power in the end. But they both have a good heart. Josie is too selfless even when she wants to be selfish she repeatedly puts others first. She balls up her emotions and lizzie is the opposite. She expresses herself without fail. But Lizzie doesn't think before she acts or speaks. She is selfish but shes also self aware and has a domineering character. Their personalities are opposite for a reason. Ergo, caroline - josette.
I’m just like Lizzie...minus the witch part
In my opinion, Josie has reached the point where the “under appreciated twin” card has become overused. I love her , but since so many ppl think she is under appreciated, Lizzie has become the under appreciated one
Love em both with all of my heart
ilove lizzie i was so happy they focused so much on her in the new episodes
Wonder what happens if she turns into a girl version of Kai? It'll be interesting... Then Kai and her will be saying the same thing... *They decided that I was nothing but a piece of trash, well... Guess the best thing to do is to prove them right* Kai turned into a monster because his family turned their back on him when all he needed was love and attention... I don't really blame him for being the monster he is...
Only an opinion
Lizzie is like Caroline and Kai mixed
josie is the dark one 100%
She actually is tho
No doesn't mean she do black magic she's evil
@@leoprincess9 and yet lizzie isn't the one who's manipulating and attacking people. You're right about lizzie's struggles, but that's just another reason why she's more likeable than josie
She’s reminds me so much of Damon.
Why does paralyzed by NF is a perfect choice of song when making a fmv??(i mean any movies or series) Oh my gosh
I'm the only one who thinks that Lizzie and Josie are both like Kai? Josie and Lizzie has the same darkness, Josie just showed it later than Lizzie. Josie stops control herself now and Lizzie is still Lizzie, even if she tries to hide it she is still sarcastic and selfish (i think at the good point). Josie slowly opens her darkness to others.
I think Kai and both Saltsman sisters will get this connection, they are all have this darkness inside, no matter when they opened Pandora's box.
(by the way, I'm sorry for my English, i speak another language)
The dislikes are josie penelope alaric Rafael and kai
i think the only reason everyone think jo is the one more like kai is because she used black majic other then that lizzie is more like kai she is diffrent kai was diffrent and its gonna take over her one day and shes gonna turn into kai
Lizzie was simply ignorant of other people's feelings and managed to become a better person all on her own. To summarize, josie is: possessive, a constant liar, fully aware of how her actions affect others, prone to violence, projects her failures onto others (particularly lizzie), acts even more like kai under the influence of dark magic (as i've observed after watching all three shows, dark magic only enhances the already present negative traits of each user). Despite constantly stating otherwise, josie has not shown any long term desire to learn from her mistakes, and even when she does apologize, she is quick to make it all about herself. Josie's definitely psychotic. However, seeing as how she overall prefers manipulation over violence and is good at day to to day interaction, i actually think she's more comparable to ruclips.net/video/aXnEoiTszJc/видео.html (or damon) instead of kai.
I love her soo much. My fav. 😭😭❤️❤️
Please let her grow into a better person and not become like kai pleaseee
She is my favorite character and really I love her so much . There is one thing that I don't like, the other characters always do the wrong thing and put the blames on Lizzie. And always ignore her. Even when she is kind to them, they ignores her and they also put jokes on Lizzy bipolar disease. Even when She protected them from the beast, they did not like this, and they always see Jossie as the victim. Really, I am annoyed at this that she does not deserve this 🙄
that would have been cool if they did dark lizzie it cause of her character in legacies
i hate how people even her family treat her badly
I love her and this, thank you❤️
Love her with all my heart, she was my second favorite after hope but I'm afraid she is taking hope's place. The one thing that she is gonna have more development like Caroline had but I hope she doesn't get those insecurities and compare her to hope like Caroline did most of the time with Elena, they better not spoil hope and lizzie. friendship.
I watch the show for Lizzie more than Hope
tbh i think he show more about the gemini coven and landon then hope
Beautiful!
josie has caroline’s big heart and lizzie has kai’s madness lizzie
The fact Lizzie's actress (Jenny Boyd) is a few months shy of thirty is shocking to me.
Im actually like lizzie ALOT except for her mean girl side. so i get where shes coming from. I'm mad at alaric for never taking his time with his daughters seriously hes so busy with hope he never has time for lizzie. Yes I get josie spends all her time taking care of her. I mean josie and lizzie could be sisters with no issues if josie had just learned how to be come more confident about herself
She's selfish and controlling and sometimes just a huge bitch, but I'm starting to like her more and more and Josie less. Maybe it's just that I really love Hope and as her favor turns, so does mine. Maybe it's because, mostly in her friendship with Hope, I'm starting to see her develop in a very Caroline way. Whatever it is, I hope she continues to develop and her and Josie are about to pull together completely and fight for their future. (I've only made it up to 2x05).
Josie love use dark magic she will be the become a female version of kai she is l6 and his a emotional mess get heartbroken.
I think ALL the Gemini twins in the coven have a certain darkness some control it better like Luke and josette but I think Josie josette and Luke are alike while Kai Lizzie and liv are alike. Josie is 5e nicer one more likely to be good jus like Luke and josette they always look out for others more than themselves and are jus more kind hearted even tho they all have their own issues n their darkness can unleash and don’t have the best childhoods they still try something they give in like Josie did but at the end they r the better most liked sibling. Now liv Lizzie n Kai have dis darkness dat is less controlled more bitchy and more likely to let their darkness get the best of them. Liv is bitchy n pushes others away and has trust issues n is more selfish than Luke though she still has emotions n feelings like wen her brother died but she let the darkness get the best of her n she tried to get revenge, she is also bitchy n more likely to lush others away like she did with Tyler. Like Lizzie she can also feel emotions and she tries but her emotions get the best of her, nobody liked her growing up and she pushed others away n is more likely to be selfish n be bitchy instead of showing her kind side and her big heart but sometimes she thinks she is broken n her darkness eats her up that. With Kai he had the worst childhood out of everyone he was the least accepted and felt like an outsider n he spent years In isolation that the trauma affects him so now he hurts others before they hurt him and he became a sociopath so he can stop feeling emotions or remorse bc he was treated horribly. He let the darkness get the best of him and so everyone stopped liking him n no one gave him a chance, he wanted to change n fight like liv and Lizzie but his last hope of humanity was Bonnie and she hurt him so he went off the deep end. They all have darkness and trauma bu some control it better and are more liked while the other r more evil n more likely to do mischief. It’s like Damon n Stefan, Stefan is Josie josette and Luke while Damon is more like Kai Lizzie and liv.
I feel like she’s gonna become like her Uncle Kai. I can just see it now. She’s gonna lose it and it’s bound to happen sometime
Kai is a psychopath. I think Lizzie may be bipolar so I don't think she'll go down the extreme. She clearly has some mental illnesses which most likely runs in one of the twins..
Well , look . The gemini couvin is hard , they have a darkness ' curse ' that is passed down to the one twin in a waay bigger quantity than the other . Kai had the bigger quantity ( than Jo ) of darkness. Here Lizzie has the bigger quantity of darnkess . Its not easy to control it . The bigger the quantity the harder
She does have mental illness stemming from the dark side of the Gemini’s, but it’s not to the extent that you can compare her to Kai.. if you wanna compare her to someone compare her to Liv, that’s actually a lot closer to her personality currently
You are totally wrong🙄🙄🙄
@@dr.sadatullahkhan8213 how lizzie is diffrent and kai was diffrent in season three she probs gonna turn and lose it and turn into kai liv and caroline kai physco liv powerful caroline as a vampire but with all three she will lose control and go crazy
No offence I prefer Lizzie as a heretic then I would Josie she said she didn’t want to hurt people but if she became a heretic imagine her behave especially emotionless and if she played the football game emotionless and know one knew and she kills someone like another Dana imagine everyone’s face she I really want to see it sorry but Josie is to put well together like Caroline I reckon she could handle being a heretic well but Lizzie is a completely different story
You say Josie can handle being a heretic better than Lizzie when it's Josie who keeps on hurting everyone with the dark side of her and Lizzie is more like Caroline she has never hurt anyone on the show so she would clearly be a better heretic like her mom was a better vampire
Olivia K-A-Y 1998
Josie's pretty much like kai. She learned to fake it quite well over time because she wants everyone to see her as the better sister, but she doesn't have the mental capacity to feel any emotion whatsoever (well, except for brief moments of anger)
I can’t find this series legacies on NETFLIX where i can watch this someone tell me
Same question
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