He works better with higher attack and with Crystal of VIleness artifact. Also he works better if you can overcharge his Ult. Lots of people on forerunner easily get 160M at A0. Also its better if you use only hollow with low attack and no other healer, so that his hp stays lower and low attack on hollow so her heals are less powerful (Assuming you dont use a chaotic healer)
Terrible test. If you wants to really test him you need to use Dassomi and Carnelian. Testing chaos on full HP make just no sense. My a0 Lugaru does 75 mil on testing
@@faxie8That's his passive. He can do that under nightmare faction as well with faster attack speed. Plus, with torodor he has a chance to do an extra hit 30% of the time
I agree, but with chaos u also get 60 %dmg boost and with double attack you will get enough bleed to sustain Scarlett hunt. Ive tester Lugaru with Dassomi, Carnelian Ardea and Vladof as a lord and fot 75 mil on him. I doubt it would be better with Torodor. I dont have him so cant check for sure
The only real issues I see with this test is that all 3 of the ground chaos units want to stay between 30-50% of their health, yet they were nearly always full health, which likely undermined their damage a lot. That said, that would be a hard team to set up. The fact they did so well despite is kind of crazy imo.
The problem about testing the high end of the hero (a3+) is that you are doing a video for a handfull of people that will have a lord a5. Most of the players, and your viewers struggle to get the hero, so having it even a1 will be very rare. A hero like lust that is mid at a0 and bonkers at a5 is meaningless, she is a restricted hero, with only a x10 for 3 days, if more than 10 guys get her a5 i will be impressed.
To many healers for chaos team. Also they were also full hp for most of the fight. My lugaru normally does 100mil to 110mil at a1. Valeryia around 75 to 80 at a1
No his team comp n placement is shit, chaotic units but keeping them full health. If he swap in dassomi for hollow, and elowyn put on the side where she only heals the piercers. The chaotic unit easily will do more dmg.
@@dakodaarmstrong5wow you sound so certain, as if you actually tested.... Mabucket has a DPS cal for NM4 boss. I used Dans stats and compered to 250% atk boost and just 100% extra crit rate. The atk set gets you 25% more damage. Its much easier to scale of atk when heroes base atk is high than use crit dmg.
@@AntonLitvin almost every top GB build has 2 Crit Damage pieces and 1 att and if not it’s 2 att 1 Crit. One thing you aren’t thinking of is Dolores giving 7k att so you are flying pass the defense already you need the crit damage multiplier to get the giant numbers Also i used the calculator and im get better DPS my way
@@dakodaarmstrong5 Allmost all GB heroes have 4 - 4,5k base atk and they do NOT scale good on atk. You cant compare Valderon to regular low base atk heroes.
I'm sorry Dan but your build for Valderon is trash he is my top dmg dealer for guild boss second to zilitu and at A0 I can do nearly 100M damage! Don't judge but I have been playing for nearly 5 months and he is one of my favorite characters besides hex and zilitu! Also for max dmg you have to pop his ult at 200%
Uredin, Sargak and Lugaru are very good. Valeriya and Ghan are even better and Valderon and Ardea are two of the best units in the entire game. They are literally SSS units. Chaos faction needs a good setup for GB to work (which is hard to do since most of them are ancient exclusive and for regular play and modes they are best in spot for arena and have a lot of uses in other game modes aswell. it's just that infernal is better for GB in the sense that it's so much more accessable. u literally only need twinfiend or solcadens from the ancients pool or even none if you have pyros.
@@AbdiFrags Maybe also easier to make them work for regular players. I'm ftp and I don't have Hex or Zilitu, and I just got Setram for infernal teams. In other hand I was lucky enough to pull Valderon and I have more heroes to make a Chaotic team (Valerya, Carnelian, Durza). It's just that it feels I should invest a lot of time to test them and find the way to use them properly, and at the end I won't have the gear or artifacts either the awakenings to make them work good. What I try to point is that maybe Valderon is SSS for a spender player, but for me as ftp Hex or Zilitu would be better to have.
@@cavecanem8717 totally different characters for totally different purposes dude. Hex and zulitu are strong but even without a full chaotic team valderon outdamages them both with proper gear and timing. The way you talk about it implies that it’s impossible to build chaotic teams if you’re f2p but thats definitely not true
He works better with higher attack and with Crystal of VIleness artifact. Also he works better if you can overcharge his Ult. Lots of people on forerunner easily get 160M at A0. Also its better if you use only hollow with low attack and no other healer, so that his hp stays lower and low attack on hollow so her heals are less powerful (Assuming you dont use a chaotic healer)
I think Valderon's ultimate goes up to 300% and maybe it's worth waiting up to 300% before triggering it. This is just a thought.
faction based on low hp is tested with full hp. I dont know.. :)
Terrible test. If you wants to really test him you need to use Dassomi and Carnelian. Testing chaos on full HP make just no sense. My a0 Lugaru does 75 mil on testing
Like 5 ppl will have all 3
Luke ppl will have Valderona...
Lol. carnelian. Elowyn is bis 4 chaos
Just a theory. Maybe Lugaru excels in nightmare faction. His attack speed will increase and will make the bleed uptime more frequent.
If you keep him below 60% HP he will attack twice
@@faxie8That's his passive. He can do that under nightmare faction as well with faster attack speed. Plus, with torodor he has a chance to do an extra hit 30% of the time
I agree, but with chaos u also get 60 %dmg boost and with double attack you will get enough bleed to sustain Scarlett hunt. Ive tester Lugaru with Dassomi, Carnelian Ardea and Vladof as a lord and fot 75 mil on him. I doubt it would be better with Torodor. I dont have him so cant check for sure
@@faxie8this is a good info. Will definitely try it once I get all those hero :)
lugaru needs to be healed only with elowyn ult to keep him very low hp
So does val and any other chaotic
I feel like if there's a way to keep the chaotic unit's HP lower but still surviving would make these runs much higher in Dragon Blood.
The only real issues I see with this test is that all 3 of the ground chaos units want to stay between 30-50% of their health, yet they were nearly always full health, which likely undermined their damage a lot. That said, that would be a hard team to set up.
The fact they did so well despite is kind of crazy imo.
Yup, that’s what i said in the video, too hard to keep them low without dying though
You make me feel like I haven't put a dent in this game after watching you destroy the guild boss. That is impressive (golf clap)
Replace one of the healers with Carnelian and put the Chaotics outside the range of the other healer. They need to be low HP to do much higher damage.
Consider dropping Hollow or Elowyn for Sargak, more bleed synergy with Lugaru.
He’s terrible, i tried him first.
@@DanHeilman1 that's unfortunate. Ah well, he's atleast great in Arena on a Chaotic team.
The problem about testing the high end of the hero (a3+) is that you are doing a video for a handfull of people that will have a lord a5.
Most of the players, and your viewers struggle to get the hero, so having it even a1 will be very rare.
A hero like lust that is mid at a0 and bonkers at a5 is meaningless, she is a restricted hero, with only a x10 for 3 days, if more than 10 guys get her a5 i will be impressed.
I think your deployment order messed up his lord skill bonuses triggering partially because it seems hex avoided the damage using his invisibility?
U werent using valderons 200 % ult in most of the autos thats why he wasnt doing as much
Feel like ardea would be a better choice than lugaru no?
Probably, she’s a beast, wanted to try the new improved lugaru out..
Why isn't he fully promo
To many healers for chaos team. Also they were also full hp for most of the fight. My lugaru normally does 100mil to 110mil at a1. Valeryia around 75 to 80 at a1
that's the problem with them, their are either full health or dead LOL
would you pls test dassomi in gb
I think you are gearing him wrong. High base atk heroes need gear to be prioritized on atk not crt dmg
No his team comp n placement is shit, chaotic units but keeping them full health. If he swap in dassomi for hollow, and elowyn put on the side where she only heals the piercers. The chaotic unit easily will do more dmg.
Lol no it’s almost backward ground units have higher base att so they can have more crit damage cause they hit higher attack with less %
@@dakodaarmstrong5wow you sound so certain, as if you actually tested.... Mabucket has a DPS cal for NM4 boss. I used Dans stats and compered to 250% atk boost and just 100% extra crit rate. The atk set gets you 25% more damage. Its much easier to scale of atk when heroes base atk is high than use crit dmg.
@@AntonLitvin almost every top GB build has 2 Crit Damage pieces and 1 att and if not it’s 2 att 1 Crit. One thing you aren’t thinking of is Dolores giving 7k att so you are flying pass the defense already you need the crit damage multiplier to get the giant numbers
Also i used the calculator and im get better DPS my way
@@dakodaarmstrong5 Allmost all GB heroes have 4 - 4,5k base atk and they do NOT scale good on atk. You cant compare Valderon to regular low base atk heroes.
You was triggering way to early you lost a bunch of damage hex was the only one in ultimate while boss was in vulnerable state
I'm sorry Dan but your build for Valderon is trash he is my top dmg dealer for guild boss second to zilitu and at A0 I can do nearly 100M damage! Don't judge but I have been playing for nearly 5 months and he is one of my favorite characters besides hex and zilitu! Also for max dmg you have to pop his ult at 200%
None of that faction is that good. I stopped building them because it's a waste of resources
Uredin, Sargak and Lugaru are very good. Valeriya and Ghan are even better and Valderon and Ardea are two of the best units in the entire game. They are literally SSS units. Chaos faction needs a good setup for GB to work (which is hard to do since most of them are ancient exclusive and for regular play and modes they are best in spot for arena and have a lot of uses in other game modes aswell. it's just that infernal is better for GB in the sense that it's so much more accessable. u literally only need twinfiend or solcadens from the ancients pool or even none if you have pyros.
@@AbdiFrags Maybe also easier to make them work for regular players. I'm ftp and I don't have Hex or Zilitu, and I just got Setram for infernal teams. In other hand I was lucky enough to pull Valderon and I have more heroes to make a Chaotic team (Valerya, Carnelian, Durza). It's just that it feels I should invest a lot of time to test them and find the way to use them properly, and at the end I won't have the gear or artifacts either the awakenings to make them work good. What I try to point is that maybe Valderon is SSS for a spender player, but for me as ftp Hex or Zilitu would be better to have.
@@cavecanem8717 totally different characters for totally different purposes dude. Hex and zulitu are strong but even without a full chaotic team valderon outdamages them both with proper gear and timing.
The way you talk about it implies that it’s impossible to build chaotic teams if you’re f2p but thats definitely not true