He should have been kicked or stick with the original decision. What is happening is summit is content farming just like the punishment itself was so everyone could content farm.
Tyler1 with the logical assessment lol. Dude shoulda been kicked from the Guild honestly. Soda was being really really lenient for letting him stay in the guild.
Yeah Soda was honestly a bit too kind, I loved the content of it and I understand the decision, but Soda was obviously biased for the guy and only did it since he had to set an example of him mostly. It’s still a punishment that people wouldn’t want happen to them, but it’s better than getting kicked.
@@torrix_4595 The reason this is all happening is because the dude used an alt to store items 🤣🤣 soda was without a doubt in the wrong for portraying the 3rd option as a "whatever happens happens" then having the level 60 in the server grief him, if he knew that he wouldn't have even taken the 3rd option.
@@RatKingTerry You are failing to comprehend how braindead majority of chat users are, they will go and brigade other channels in reaction to their streamer complaining. You need to learn how to step back and become more aware of things that happen
It's all for content, they all do it on purpose. The view baiting with "DRAMA" is so bad these days, they foam at the mouth at the slightest moment to share their "opinion". Which just makes more drama, more clicks, more views. It's a win/win for them in the end.
It's normal arguments any group of friends would have, and it's dragged on and blown out of proportion due to people in chat acting as hate soldiers for their fav streamers.
reminds me of the hecarim guy going to brazil or somewhere to make a team, and yamato was bitching out. i dont really pay attention to that stuff, so i only know surface level stuff.
The funniest fucking part of all of this is the fucking guy WHO ACTUALLY LOST HIS CHARACTER was laughing on his stream about it and was actually perfectly fine and happy to relevel. So literally this is just summit white knighting when the guy who LOST HIS CHARACTER isn't even upset lmao.
@@Nattidati Its not "hunting season" its someone who cheated and was made content out of. That was the mistake in the first place was not just kicking him or making him restart because it gave people the wrong idea. His character was meant to die regardless. There is no way for a level 60 or sweat/higher level to kill someone else in the guild unless they either go to the gurubashi arena or do a makgora. If you do either of those who the hell cares WHO kills you, it could be literally anybody. There has already been multiple people within the guild who have killed eachother at the arena because they were both going for arena masters.
@@Nattidati I mean if it turns into hunting season cause of cheaters I guess the simple solution would be to not cheat or support cheaters, it was entirely optional to try and defend the dude in the arena when he rightfully should be dead or booted from the guild entirely. The dude lost those 60 hours himself by deciding to cheat when he knew what the consequences were.
If you wanna see when Tyler finally begins to understand the situation - go to 10:10 EDIT: Tyler1 just died on stream - head to 10 hours 54 minutes on his latest stream
@@jtroulston6733Summit hasn't been RPing as a Troll in Onlyfangs which was suppose to have an RP tribalism going on. So they acted like it was good for the Troll faction if they are the one who can claim the cheater's head. Also it was an execution, let's be clear on that. When people started dying in the Arena, Zeroji stepped in to finish the deed to minimize the damage aftermath. Even the person who cheated was cool with his character dying there. He got 20k views while the event is going on, he is happy about it.
@@jtroulston6733 At the end of the day, the guy cheated. Who cares that his character died. Summits a little bitch in this case. Needs to lay off the green.
right, but like, that is kind of lame since "cheating" rule of not buying/selling on AH was only the guilds rule and not server rules it is a dick move to just send someone after him. I agree with summit, they were all using the cheater for content instead of doing the rational thing
@@cqpzg well that's wrong. He didn't choose to get executed. He chose to stay in the Arena for 10 minutes and was told no one in Onlyfangs would jump in. Then they peer pressure a 60 into killing him with less than 2 minutes on the clock.
@@SinisterLeviathan He wasn't supposed to make it out alive. That's the whole point! This was a punishment for cheating not a challenge. It was either leave the guild or leave the character. He made his choice.
In fact Soda said you are allowed to have that opinion and you dont even have to like the guy. Like you said Soda just didnt want Summit to talk shit about the guy on stream.
@@Emulator833 but it had already stopped by the time soda called to then re ignite it, then called summit a bitch while not even attempting to see summits side because ultimately it was soda and vei's decision to frame it as a trial by combat but inviting a level 60 to 2 tap him. but yeah hoppers are idiots people can get heated, but you cant just thought police people, if you notice sums rants are always about fairness, giving people an equal chance or if something happens that makes him feel like he's playing odds not people. And he didn't know soda ordered it before so thought zeroji just went in by himself for the clout, cant blame a guy for forming opinions with the info he has
@davidsantiago7808 Yeahhhh very sad. I've been watching sumsum for like 10 years almost. Many crashouts over the years but this one had me disappointed
@@owrlowrlhe actually sounds like a Kamala voter. The irony in you calling this behaviour a Trump voter after we all just enjoyed the endless crashouts from all the Kamala voters after they didn't win. 🤡
@@billjoe7036 He was on stream and in discord ranting about it over and over again...He was upset. The whole original point of that call was Soda doing damage control because summit was stirring the pot lol. If it weren't for summits actions and whining, that call never would have taken place. Summit is literally upset lol
Bottom line is he cheated, and his character was going to be deleted because of it anyway. Nobody was upset or disappointed or judged him in any way, those are just the rules. Soda gave him a 0.1% chance to survive it, it was never going to be a 50/50 chance. If anything it was just a death ceremony. It reminds me of being a kid and making an imaginary game in the school playground with your friends, sooner or later people start to take way too seriously and any sort of fun goes out the window
@@overlordfx1464 because he went against the guild rules? Either he's kicked from the guild and no longer gets to take part in the event, or he starts from fresh. He got off lightly.
10:10 Tyler understands the situation and instantly has the right take. Remember - the cheater was given the choice to get kicked or do this. Tyler is so reasonable on issues outside of league lmao. This one is cut and dry, Summit being a lazy bum as always. 17:37 XD
@@luciofilipeI loved it, especially the part where the level 60 character jumped in risking his far more valuable character to kill the dirty, dirty little cheater.
@@whatever-w5n he's not risking anything, only people from his guild were there over 90% and no one can touch him for now. just kick the guy or give him the original punishment.
Summit upset for no reason. The whole point was for him to either leave guild or lose character. He chose to lose character, nobody expected him to actually survive in the arena. It was just a fun way to set a precedent against cheating.
Summit: you're stealing 60 hours of his playing time. Nope, he cheated, he did that to himself. The arena was just for cinematic effect. Summit is acting like a clown. And this is some sweet backfire on Soda for not just deleting and kicking Sequesha for cheating. Went back on his word and now he's eating them.
Summit lirerally said he didnt want him to get kicked. What T1 thinks is Summit's side is isnt correct. It's not about "playing after". Summit is literally just obseessed over "unfairness" like he was bullied unfairly irl and cant see past it
Why is he not mad about that hunter from fangsly dying against 2v1 then? Kinda hypocritical, dont you think? He didnt get anything from this unlike Sequisha, he just lost unfair fight for nothing.
But even if Summit was the incarnation of Lady Justice then I don’t see how he could ignore the auction house cheater, and focus on the method of execution… Summits position on this is just baffling.
The funniest part is how most of summit’s chat including mods were like ‘what are you talking about man?’ Summit was 100% just ranting about something in the wrong and decided to double down when people pushed back.
What a crazy thing to be upset about. His fans have to be completely brain rotted if they are going after the lvl 60 streamer for doing what he needed to do. Did summit want a non-cheater that is equally matched to go down and potentially die and lose their +60 hours as well? What the hell is his logic lmao.
I believe his logic is just kick the guy from the guild and move on. Summit felt like it was some sort of humiliation event and it left a sour taste in his mouth. He didnt think it was necessary and thats an unpopular opinion.
I agree with you and I agree with how it went but I also see Summits side. Sodapoppin said cheaters get kicked from guild and no content will be made off them. Thats what triggered Summit to feel like it was humiliation and not punishment. He just thought it should have been done a different way. I see both sides of the argument. Summit, Soda or anyone can bitch and moan. Its their right if they want, thats what I think but then you have all those viewers watching and they get weird, thats where the real issue came causing problems in Soda's chat then hate dono's in Summits stream lol Then people get actually upset. I think mostly Summit and to an extent Soda let the viewers/chat get under their skin.
If i said such and such is going to happen when you cheat and when the cheat happens I do the opposite I cant hate if someone is like Yo why would you do it like that. Thats Summits view but of course if you cheat you deserve anything that happens to you lol I thought it was cool that the top player came in and erased him.
@@Sol-hd7pz Here's the thing at no point did Summit express any of that. You are just assuming and filling in for him. If he at any point made the argument that it's lame to do an execution event since Soda said he would gkick without content then pretty much anyone would agree with Summit. Soda went back in his word which I personally think is pretty lame and would be an actual argument against Soda's behavior. Soda himself even asks if that is what Summit is mad about and he denies it "the punishment was fine".
I feel like so many people are forgetting Sequisha had a lvl 45 rogue helping him as well as others. If it was a true duel he would have died immediately to the 43 hunter that first went in to the arena.
@@cx3622 lv 60 kills him or types "delete" in the box and gets rid of his character. Which one is not fun again? I like summit, but this has to be one of the dumbest things i've ever seen him say and i really think its just because chatters were stressing him out before soda came in that by the time soda got there he was already over it and not listening.
@cx3622 nice try, but he's defending cheating if he's arguing against any punishment that doesn't end in either death or kick rules are simple. Its actually easier to follow them than break them. And I like Sequisha, fyi. Dude still broke the rules and got let off easy by being given a content ticket and being allowed to take out multiple other peoples characters on his way out. And summit has a tendency to fight for better outcomes for his friends/fellow streamers who break the rules (or laws)
@@sl5945 Neither of those were the planned punishment tho. Miz and Soda agreed that he can be free if he survives for 10 minutes. It should have been complete chaos and entertainment. There was no mention of a lvl 60 going in and ending him. The fact that they made a level 60 come in and end it completely ruined the fun and the point of the event. That's why it is Iame.
t1's right, its a moral thing... one is thinking it emotionally/morally, ones not and is being practical but indirect, not accepting what they truly wanted.
Summit is arguing a fallacy and doesn't realize it. Doesn't want the guy to be removed even though that was the established rule that he would get removed/banned without making content around it Soda came up with a CONTENT COMPROMISE to let the guy get content out of his death because at the end of the day thats the entire purpose of the guild and summit is mad bc the guy didn't get to live after cheating lol bruh😅😅
@@skimask5933 Wtf so? The cheater's character is suppose to die either way. Since the time was running out and no one else was going in, Soda made the decision for the lvl 60 to kill him.
@@skimask5933 Im only a few minutes into the video so i dont have all the content. But thats how, many games deal with cheaters/pirates. They install some kind of unbeatable mob that will constantly kill said cehater. So the zurg guy is the pirater and the lvl 60 is the unkillable mob. I dont see whats summits problem
@@skimask5933the cheater was going to die no matter what are u dumb this death was chosen just strictly for content. Also the guy agreed to go into the arena that was it not to go have a fair fight. The kid made 18k more viewers just today and didn’t get g kicked so pretty sure he is happy with the outcome.
@@skimask5933 the punishment should not have been taken at face value it was for CONTENT and for what its worth it worked as T1 noted/stated. The second homie cheated he basically lost his rights in the guild. Nobody can force him to lose his character he could have just left the guild but he knows it was better to die for content and for some reason summit didn't understand that. Imo it seems like a slight sy-op i wouldn't be surprised if summit is making a big deal out of it for content aswell.
Summary: Some guy from OnlyFangs sold/bought shit from auction house (not allowed), so Summit1g says he should've just been kicked instead of being killed/humiliated since dying = Losing your character in hardcore. Whereas if he just got kicked he could still play, just not as an OnlyFangs member. Soda is defending his actions of making content out of his death by sending a lvl 60 to kill him, and Summit didn't like that the lvl 60 did that At the end of the day, they're all nerds on the Internet and you should go to the gym ❤
Doing this big event like OnlyFangs with all of your buddies, and then not only cheating, but explicitly going out of your way to hide it (he knew he was cheating), is suppppper scummy imo.
Why would anyone but the 60 kill the cheater if the punishment was a fight to the death? Why should anyone else risk a character to someone who cheated lol What is lil bro even mad about
the funny and ironic part is them saying they dont wanna make content about cheating, yet having this all streamed and uploaded instead of just dealing with it all in private so we can enjoy the drama :)
60 hours play time is nothing to these streamers lets be honest its not that deep it was probably like 4 days if that for a streamer to get 60 hours on a character
I mean manually turning off the main add on off stream deserves some reprimanding especially when you’re told to not turn it off explicitly lol. And the worst part was he actually used a function that was initially blocked by the add on. A lot of intention behind the cheating. Shoulda gotten booted but they gave him a chance to live after 15 min. Do not see a problem with that alternative.
Theres a difference between gurubashi being ESSENTIALLY a death sentence vs the guild organizing an execution so its a guaranteed death sentence. Im sure Seq knew that the chances of him surviving the arena were very slim, but idk why the guild couldnt just let the event play out without organizing a sureway death. Especially once they saw that random lvl 30-40s were jumping in (which Seq killed 1vs4), so it wasnt a boring event of nothing happening. If Seq knew that a gangup was being organized, he might have picked the other option he was offered, which was to take the coward debuff and delete all his gear. A mage at low levels isnt very reliant on gear of having those 25% stats you lose from coward, so it would have been a viable way to level
THE PROBLEM WITH THIS SCENERIO IS THAT SODA GAVE HIM THE OPTION TO LIVE AND DO THE ARENA BUT THEN BACKSTABBED HIM WITH THE GUILD TO AGREE FOR THE HIGH LEVEL TO KILL HIM IN THE ARENA.
It's obvious Soda just wanted him to die. Why else would he and the trolls encourage the highest level to go and one shot him. Also Sequisha had a rouge helping. So I think the high level one shoting him was fair.
Everyone is complaining about if it was right or wrong, but at the end of the day Sequisha made the decision. Soda told him to either leave the guild and keep your character, or kill your character (original idea). Even with the new proposal for content, he was still most likely dead. Like cmon, a band of many streamers with all their viewers able to join into this was practical death. Especially since he couldn’t group so he couldn’t even receive heals. Like yeah it’s a bit of a killer to have a 60 quickly end it, but the restriction itself was already tough to survive as is. So really the idea wasn’t have a chance at surviving, it was kill your character for content. Because the only way you’ll be having your character in the guild is if it faced death. And if I’m not mistaken Sequisha left the guild after that anyway. He just made the wrong decision if that’s what happened anyway
the fact is Sequisha benefitted more from this death than he would have just getting away with the cheating. He now has more followers and eyes on his stream (t1, soda, savix, miz reactions) while still being able to partake in OnlyFangs content. I think the issue with summit is he expected him to be able to get a fair trial of 15 min of letting people come at him in waves without it being 100% guarantee loss, but I can also see why soda and them wanted it done. they want a clean slate and not some 100 viewer andy ruining it for them
Very sad to hear Summit saying his rants have never caused like a massive hate raid, that is besides the point. It will always encourage chat hoppers to echo his opinion and he should 1000% know better, just look at how bad GTA RP viewers can be...
WHAT HAPPENED: The cheater was supposed to fight to the death in a big arena versus other people and try to survive for 10 minutes --> Level 60 guy jumps in and oneshots him immediately --> Summit1g gets mad.
Basically this. Guy cheated by disabling the add-on and listing and selling things on auction house Soda said if anyone cheats they won't make content out of it, but will just kick and move on Mizkif wanted to make content and asked soda if he could instead go into the arena and if he lives for 10mins he keeps his character and stays in guild Soda agreed to this so they had this whole arena event thing Information on the arena in case you don't know (the arena is a place that while you are inside it is a no rules free for all pvp area. So a lv 1 orc could get attacked by a lv 60 orc, faction rules don't apply in there) Soda and the majority of the trolls sent in there level 60 troll who is a record speed runner hence why he is max only a few days in and just killed the cheater in two hits Summit is mad because he doesn't feel that was giving the guy a fair chance (which it objectively is not) Soda is confused why he is mad because if he didn't decide to go against his own word and make content out of a cheater he would just been removed or forced to delete his character and start over again anyway in order to remain in the guild. You didn't ask, but in my opinion this guy cheating is scum. There are people who never played wow before ever playing this hardcore self-found thing and its not fucking easy. Saying its casual is a joke, i played wow on and off for many many years. I also do hardcore and even i die a lose characters half the time... Meanwhile this guy who actually plays wow is cheating which ruins the integrity of the guild and basically invalidates EVERYONES time. So he really shouldn't of been given a second chance at all and i think soda is being nice allowing him to just start over and trusting the he won't again break the rules... I like summit, but his take he is super wrong in my opinion and he is personally attacking the guy for no reason. Yes summit can disagree with his actions, but you don't have to disagree with something someone does and hate them and go after them. Like i disagree with summit, but i don't sit here saying summit is a piece of shit, idiot for what he says. No i just think he is wrong, which we all are from time to time and move the fuck on.
Streamers play wow, u die once u lose character, u try to level to 60, races compete between each other, later they do some shit together (im a league player but thats all ive got)
Miz and Soda agreed that he can be free if he survives for 10 minutes. It should have been complete chaos and entertainment. There was no mention of a lvl 60 going in and ending him. The fact that they made a level 60 come in and end it completely ruined the fun and the point of the event. That's why it is Iame.
Tyler1: these streamers all act like children, i don't have time for this. I'm so much more mature than them. Also T1: "Is this how drama usually is? Maybe i need to get involved in more drama, it's kinda fun."
Sequisha got a pretty entertaining end for his character compared to the behind the closed doors delete. Only one who is pissed is Summit and people have no idea why. This was great for Sequisha. If I was Sequisha I would've just taunted the F out of the people while standing in the arena waiting to die. Like some kind of pro wrestling bad guy. A missed opportunity.
summit created narrative IN HIS HEAD. that this was supposed to be fair trial or some shit and this was about CASUAL players. With tyrading about how Soda let lose 60 level sweat on small noob. 60 hours exetera. On which Soda told him that THAT DUDE is also a fkng sweat, but ofcourse summit ignored him and kept playing same shit. There is also an irony how summit was so agains big bully small and then himself, giant fkng streamer was bullying the dude.
I get summits side but soda was already being lenient not kicking him. The event was supposed to kill him. Hell even the streamer knew he was going to die at that point.
I think the level 60 guy getting in there was fine. It was a free for all thus anyone could jump in there if they want to risk their life to kill that guy. I also think it is fine that the Trolls convinced him to do it. But what i think is a bit problematic is if Sodapoppin made him do it. As the guild leader i think he should stay neutral and not really be on a race/team and have any influence in their decision making as it ruins the power dynamic of the teams if the guild leader is on one of the teams.
I kinda feel similar to summit, soda says he will gkick etc, doesn't do that instead offers a 10 minute timer to survive to keep his character which is fine, good content and entertainment, he fights his way through multiple opponents ends up in a 3v1 of people similar to his level, level 60 jumps in and instakills him, this is where its no bueno for me why did you offer him the 10 minute timer like he had a chance to fight his way back from his crime of using the AH, like i understand he cheated but if you are offering him a chance to fight for his survival as his punishment and then going and getting the highest level most geared sweatiest player possible to come and execute him it just feels dirty.
I think summit is too heavily fixated on the guy being level 60 already. This is probably just an ego thing and he's been waiting to shit on that guy. He doesn't really care about the cheater
I love how summit keeps reiterating that it's his opinion when that's not what is being argued. Literally cannot meet remotely halfway with the person when he feels like he's being attacked. He's so old but still popular with young guys that still act the same way.
Tyler's reaction: I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON cool thanks i really needed his opinion on this
It wasn't a duel....its was an execution.
at no point was it supposed to be fair....
He should have been kicked or stick with the original decision.
What is happening is summit is content farming just like the punishment itself was so everyone could content farm.
its either a gurabashi or delete charcter automatically or guild kick. its that simple
I thought the people were supposed to decide aka the chat
@conquer535 No he meant the people on the server, as in if people want him dead they can risk themselves to go in and kill him
Tyler1 with the logical assessment lol. Dude shoulda been kicked from the Guild honestly. Soda was being really really lenient for letting him stay in the guild.
Yeah Soda was honestly a bit too kind, I loved the content of it and I understand the decision, but Soda was obviously biased for the guy and only did it since he had to set an example of him mostly.
It’s still a punishment that people wouldn’t want happen to them, but it’s better than getting kicked.
Punishment fitting the crime i guess
as long as he doesnt do any cringe RP its fine ruclips.net/video/Ok92jhRzuAM/видео.html
@@torrix_4595 The reason this is all happening is because the dude used an alt to store items 🤣🤣 soda was without a doubt in the wrong for portraying the 3rd option as a "whatever happens happens" then having the level 60 in the server grief him, if he knew that he wouldn't have even taken the 3rd option.
Lol you take this shit way too seriously.
The fact that it wasnt supposed to be a duel to the death but an actual execution with everyone watching is so lost on Summit 0Head
he is only stating his distaste for the public execution
@@doubledprospecting1407 by sending thousands of people to hate on Zeroji who is just RPing and playing the game as normal?
@@limear by that logic soda sent people to hate on summit, complaining about something isn't directing hate
@@doubledprospecting1407 No. Summit seems to be more mad at sweaty people playing WoW and side stepping the whole issue.
@@RatKingTerry You are failing to comprehend how braindead majority of chat users are, they will go and brigade other channels in reaction to their streamer complaining. You need to learn how to step back and become more aware of things that happen
Streamer servers are drama factories. Too many large egos, not enough space.
It's all for content, they all do it on purpose. The view baiting with "DRAMA" is so bad these days, they foam at the mouth at the slightest moment to share their "opinion". Which just makes more drama, more clicks, more views. It's a win/win for them in the end.
It's normal arguments any group of friends would have, and it's dragged on and blown out of proportion due to people in chat acting as hate soldiers for their fav streamers.
@@joemama5054summit for sure, he has a whole gta drama audience big clicks
reminds me of the hecarim guy going to brazil or somewhere to make a team, and yamato was bitching out.
i dont really pay attention to that stuff, so i only know surface level stuff.
It’s awesome
The funniest fucking part of all of this is the fucking guy WHO ACTUALLY LOST HIS CHARACTER was laughing on his stream about it and was actually perfectly fine and happy to relevel. So literally this is just summit white knighting when the guy who LOST HIS CHARACTER isn't even upset lmao.
@@Nattidati then dont play "hardcore" game meant with death revive mechanics
@@Nattidati Its not "hunting season" its someone who cheated and was made content out of. That was the mistake in the first place was not just kicking him or making him restart because it gave people the wrong idea. His character was meant to die regardless. There is no way for a level 60 or sweat/higher level to kill someone else in the guild unless they either go to the gurubashi arena or do a makgora. If you do either of those who the hell cares WHO kills you, it could be literally anybody. There has already been multiple people within the guild who have killed eachother at the arena because they were both going for arena masters.
@@Nattidati I mean if it turns into hunting season cause of cheaters I guess the simple solution would be to not cheat or support cheaters, it was entirely optional to try and defend the dude in the arena when he rightfully should be dead or booted from the guild entirely. The dude lost those 60 hours himself by deciding to cheat when he knew what the consequences were.
@@Nattidati what is this bs talk about 60 hours.. why you guys want another low lvl to go in and risk their 60 hours to fairly duel a cheater??
@@Nattidati you cant get killed outside of the arena....
If you wanna see when Tyler finally begins to understand the situation - go to 10:10
EDIT: Tyler1 just died on stream - head to 10 hours 54 minutes on his latest stream
TonkaT didnt actually understand what summit was saying. Summits problem was that the guild and other troll players told the 60 to go in
@@jtroulston6733who gives af😂😂😂😂
@@jtroulston6733 Basically options were delete character or get to Gurubashi Arena (which basically means you will get taken down there)
@@jtroulston6733Summit hasn't been RPing as a Troll in Onlyfangs which was suppose to have an RP tribalism going on. So they acted like it was good for the Troll faction if they are the one who can claim the cheater's head. Also it was an execution, let's be clear on that. When people started dying in the Arena, Zeroji stepped in to finish the deed to minimize the damage aftermath. Even the person who cheated was cool with his character dying there. He got 20k views while the event is going on, he is happy about it.
@@jtroulston6733 At the end of the day, the guy cheated. Who cares that his character died. Summits a little bitch in this case. Needs to lay off the green.
He cheated. It wasnt supposed to be a fair fight. It wasnt supposed to end with him surviving.
right, but like, that is kind of lame since "cheating" rule of not buying/selling on AH was only the guilds rule and not server rules it is a dick move to just send someone after him. I agree with summit, they were all using the cheater for content instead of doing the rational thing
@@DasInf13 He could have taken the guild kick since it was a guild rule and kept his character. He chose this. Cant have it both ways.
@@cqpzg well that's wrong. He didn't choose to get executed. He chose to stay in the Arena for 10 minutes and was told no one in Onlyfangs would jump in. Then they peer pressure a 60 into killing him with less than 2 minutes on the clock.
@@SinisterLeviathan He wasn't supposed to make it out alive. That's the whole point! This was a punishment for cheating not a challenge. It was either leave the guild or leave the character. He made his choice.
Yes, when the idea came up, miz said: He should be killed by the server. Not "he should have a fair fight in the arena". Thats what soda agreed to.
no one said summit cant have an opinion soda was just asking for summit to stop being butt hurt and ranting on stream about zeroji
In fact Soda said you are allowed to have that opinion and you dont even have to like the guy. Like you said Soda just didnt want Summit to talk shit about the guy on stream.
@@Emulator833 but it had already stopped by the time soda called to then re ignite it, then called summit a bitch while not even attempting to see summits side because ultimately it was soda and vei's decision to frame it as a trial by combat but inviting a level 60 to 2 tap him. but yeah hoppers are idiots people can get heated, but you cant just thought police people, if you notice sums rants are always about fairness, giving people an equal chance or if something happens that makes him feel like he's playing odds not people. And he didn't know soda ordered it before so thought zeroji just went in by himself for the clout, cant blame a guy for forming opinions with the info he has
Are you dumb, you just said two different things. His opinion is the rant.
Soda calls people idiots and screams all the time. Summit can do it too if he wants. Seriously, this coming from Soda especially means nothing.
He can do that if he wants it was one stream or maybe 2 summit will move on
Crazy how t1 was the only creator thus far to actually say this at 4:10
Its what soda meant but he wasnt saying it explicitly and summit is too dumb to understand or hes purposefully ignoring it
@davidsantiago7808 Yeahhhh very sad. I've been watching sumsum for like 10 years almost. Many crashouts over the years but this one had me disappointed
@@tysonanderson5463 He sounds like a Trump voter
@@owrlowrlhe actually sounds like a Kamala voter. The irony in you calling this behaviour a Trump voter after we all just enjoyed the endless crashouts from all the Kamala voters after they didn't win. 🤡
@@kyeda You voted for corruption buddy, idk how you fooled yourself but you did
This wow shit gets serious
Small people take small things seriously
@@cake113 streamers dont have any real problems so they have to invent ones.
you bet. this isnt politics
Waiting for Summit to send a pipebomb to his mail box
This is why I'm voting Trump
summit is literally the ONLY person who’s upset about the event
He wasn’t that upset, just didn’t agree with it. Only thing that made it more serious was Soda having such a problem with summit not agreeing
@@billjoe7036 he sounded pretty upset lol
he ranted about it for hours he was def upset
@@billjoe7036summit acted like a complete bitch about the whole thing tf you mean lol
@@billjoe7036 He was on stream and in discord ranting about it over and over again...He was upset. The whole original point of that call was Soda doing damage control because summit was stirring the pot lol. If it weren't for summits actions and whining, that call never would have taken place. Summit is literally upset lol
Bottom line is he cheated, and his character was going to be deleted because of it anyway. Nobody was upset or disappointed or judged him in any way, those are just the rules. Soda gave him a 0.1% chance to survive it, it was never going to be a 50/50 chance. If anything it was just a death ceremony. It reminds me of being a kid and making an imaginary game in the school playground with your friends, sooner or later people start to take way too seriously and any sort of fun goes out the window
But why would his character get deleted if he only cheated the guild? Bro didn’t cheat wow lol
Acting like bro was hackong
@@overlordfx1464 Was either that or getting kicked from the guild I guess
@@overlordfx1464 because he went against the guild rules? Either he's kicked from the guild and no longer gets to take part in the event, or he starts from fresh. He got off lightly.
This is amazing to watch with how the guild has turned in the past month, what a good flashback!
10:10 Tyler understands the situation and instantly has the right take. Remember - the cheater was given the choice to get kicked or do this. Tyler is so reasonable on issues outside of league lmao. This one is cut and dry, Summit being a lazy bum as always. 17:37 XD
He actually doesn’t know all of the information until 12:14 and then says he sees both sides-
wrong. this was not the original punishment, they changed it for content. the event was cool until the 60 ended it. it was dumb.
@@luciofilipeI loved it, especially the part where the level 60 character jumped in risking his far more valuable character to kill the dirty, dirty little cheater.
@@whatever-w5n he's not risking anything, only people from his guild were there over 90% and no one can touch him for now. just kick the guy or give him the original punishment.
@@luciofilipe except he was and he did.
Summit upset for no reason. The whole point was for him to either leave guild or lose character. He chose to lose character, nobody expected him to actually survive in the arena. It was just a fun way to set a precedent against cheating.
"I aggressively think this way"
“I guess you can have your own feelings” -Soda
😂
Summit: you're stealing 60 hours of his playing time.
Nope, he cheated, he did that to himself. The arena was just for cinematic effect. Summit is acting like a clown.
And this is some sweet backfire on Soda for not just deleting and kicking Sequesha for cheating. Went back on his word and now he's eating them.
How did he cheat?
@@WHOMEGALULz buying and selling on the auction house.
guild drama is one of the best things about wow content if im being honest. low steaks, petty, and meaningless drama is so entertaining to watch.
would love to eat a nice steak rn tbh
2 OGs fighting lmao
Two uncs squabbling
40yo man upset a brotherman didnt get punished his way
false
@@GetnBrainsyeah what it really is that summit is a moron who can’t rp but joins rp events.
The battle, low level vs expert level sweat.
Super fair 😂😅
@@Jiendu it was never supposed to be fair, he was dying there one way or another
No I think you just can't process simple information. Kinda sad tbh...
Summit lirerally said he didnt want him to get kicked.
What T1 thinks is Summit's side is isnt correct. It's not about "playing after".
Summit is literally just obseessed over "unfairness" like he was bullied unfairly irl and cant see past it
Why is he not mad about that hunter from fangsly dying against 2v1 then? Kinda hypocritical, dont you think? He didnt get anything from this unlike Sequisha, he just lost unfair fight for nothing.
But even if Summit was the incarnation of Lady Justice then I don’t see how he could ignore the auction house cheater, and focus on the method of execution…
Summits position on this is just baffling.
@@Zamix69 Summit defending cheaters is nothing new bro.
summit is clearly fucking blazed and is in his feels
The funniest part is how most of summit’s chat including mods were like ‘what are you talking about man?’
Summit was 100% just ranting about something in the wrong and decided to double down when people pushed back.
What a crazy thing to be upset about. His fans have to be completely brain rotted if they are going after the lvl 60 streamer for doing what he needed to do. Did summit want a non-cheater that is equally matched to go down and potentially die and lose their +60 hours as well? What the hell is his logic lmao.
I believe his logic is just kick the guy from the guild and move on. Summit felt like it was some sort of humiliation event and it left a sour taste in his mouth. He didnt think it was necessary and thats an unpopular opinion.
@ yeah, but the dude agreed to the event knowing what would happen, no? I don’t see the issue then.
I agree with you and I agree with how it went but I also see Summits side. Sodapoppin said cheaters get kicked from guild and no content will be made off them. Thats what triggered Summit to feel like it was humiliation and not punishment. He just thought it should have been done a different way. I see both sides of the argument. Summit, Soda or anyone can bitch and moan. Its their right if they want, thats what I think but then you have all those viewers watching and they get weird, thats where the real issue came causing problems in Soda's chat then hate dono's in Summits stream lol Then people get actually upset. I think mostly Summit and to an extent Soda let the viewers/chat get under their skin.
If i said such and such is going to happen when you cheat and when the cheat happens I do the opposite I cant hate if someone is like Yo why would you do it like that. Thats Summits view but of course if you cheat you deserve anything that happens to you lol I thought it was cool that the top player came in and erased him.
@@Sol-hd7pz Here's the thing at no point did Summit express any of that. You are just assuming and filling in for him. If he at any point made the argument that it's lame to do an execution event since Soda said he would gkick without content then pretty much anyone would agree with Summit. Soda went back in his word which I personally think is pretty lame and would be an actual argument against Soda's behavior. Soda himself even asks if that is what Summit is mad about and he denies it "the punishment was fine".
I love how Tyler1 sees the fun in this 8:16 😂
I feel like so many people are forgetting Sequisha had a lvl 45 rogue helping him as well as others. If it was a true duel he would have died immediately to the 43 hunter that first went in to the arena.
"ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" nuff said lol
I love how lost Tyler is the whole time
Name a more iconic duo than summit1g and defending cheaters
He's not defending cheaters lol. He's just saying that making the lvl 60 do it is lame and not fun. Nothing wrong with that.
Nice way to completely twist the story tho IiI bro
@@cx3622 lv 60 kills him or types "delete" in the box and gets rid of his character. Which one is not fun again? I like summit, but this has to be one of the dumbest things i've ever seen him say and i really think its just because chatters were stressing him out before soda came in that by the time soda got there he was already over it and not listening.
@cx3622 nice try, but he's defending cheating if he's arguing against any punishment that doesn't end in either death or kick
rules are simple. Its actually easier to follow them than break them.
And I like Sequisha, fyi. Dude still broke the rules and got let off easy by being given a content ticket and being allowed to take out multiple other peoples characters on his way out.
And summit has a tendency to fight for better outcomes for his friends/fellow streamers who break the rules (or laws)
@@sl5945 Neither of those were the planned punishment tho. Miz and Soda agreed that he can be free if he survives for 10 minutes. It should have been complete chaos and entertainment. There was no mention of a lvl 60 going in and ending him. The fact that they made a level 60 come in and end it completely ruined the fun and the point of the event. That's why it is Iame.
Yo that twitter comment at the end had me dying
Remember this when sodapoppin starts buying gold in 3 months
Manchild gets angry over actions of other manchild in 20 year old video game
t1's right, its a moral thing... one is thinking it emotionally/morally, ones not and is being practical but indirect, not accepting what they truly wanted.
Summit is arguing a fallacy and doesn't realize it.
Doesn't want the guy to be removed even though that was the established rule that he would get removed/banned without making content around it
Soda came up with a CONTENT COMPROMISE to let the guy get content out of his death because at the end of the day thats the entire purpose of the guild and summit is mad bc the guy didn't get to live after cheating lol bruh😅😅
Um what? Did you even watch the video? He said he liked the punishment but didnt like that Soda encouraged a sweaty 60 to go and kill the guy
@@skimask5933 Wtf so? The cheater's character is suppose to die either way. Since the time was running out and no one else was going in, Soda made the decision for the lvl 60 to kill him.
@@skimask5933 Im only a few minutes into the video so i dont have all the content. But thats how, many games deal with cheaters/pirates. They install some kind of unbeatable mob that will constantly kill said cehater. So the zurg guy is the pirater and the lvl 60 is the unkillable mob.
I dont see whats summits problem
@@skimask5933the cheater was going to die no matter what are u dumb this death was chosen just strictly for content. Also the guy agreed to go into the arena that was it not to go have a fair fight. The kid made 18k more viewers just today and didn’t get g kicked so pretty sure he is happy with the outcome.
@@skimask5933 the punishment should not have been taken at face value it was for CONTENT and for what its worth it worked as T1 noted/stated.
The second homie cheated he basically lost his rights in the guild. Nobody can force him to lose his character he could have just left the guild but he knows it was better to die for content and for some reason summit didn't understand that.
Imo it seems like a slight sy-op i wouldn't be surprised if summit is making a big deal out of it for content aswell.
Can we take a moment to appreciate how far T1 has come!
yo idk if i can watch another clip involving sodapoppin lol
Lol @ that ending comment about giving Macayla back her twitter.
My fav part was that Tyler had no idea what they were talking about
Him taking 10 min to figure this out makes my head hurt.
Summit talks over people so much, he also ALWAYS has gets known for having biased meltdowns
Summary: Some guy from OnlyFangs sold/bought shit from auction house (not allowed), so Summit1g says he should've just been kicked instead of being killed/humiliated since dying = Losing your character in hardcore. Whereas if he just got kicked he could still play, just not as an OnlyFangs member.
Soda is defending his actions of making content out of his death by sending a lvl 60 to kill him, and Summit didn't like that the lvl 60 did that
At the end of the day, they're all nerds on the Internet and you should go to the gym ❤
Facts
Doing this big event like OnlyFangs with all of your buddies, and then not only cheating, but explicitly going out of your way to hide it (he knew he was cheating), is suppppper scummy imo.
I mean if you watched even a minute of the video, summit says no to the question of should the guy have just been kicked.
Thats not what happened at all
killing the dumb cheater gave him a second chance to STAY IN THE GUILD
EVERYONES STRESSED OUT - this is a video game
Why would anyone but the 60 kill the cheater if the punishment was a fight to the death? Why should anyone else risk a character to someone who cheated lol
What is lil bro even mad about
the funny and ironic part is them saying they dont wanna make content about cheating, yet having this all streamed and uploaded instead of just dealing with it all in private so we can enjoy the drama :)
60 hours play time is nothing to these streamers lets be honest its not that deep it was probably like 4 days if that for a streamer to get 60 hours on a character
I mean manually turning off the main add on off stream deserves some reprimanding especially when you’re told to not turn it off explicitly lol. And the worst part was he actually used a function that was initially blocked by the add on. A lot of intention behind the cheating. Shoulda gotten booted but they gave him a chance to live after 15 min. Do not see a problem with that alternative.
yeah good video man 0 context to the drama and its just him saying he has no clue whats going on
Theres a difference between gurubashi being ESSENTIALLY a death sentence vs the guild organizing an execution so its a guaranteed death sentence. Im sure Seq knew that the chances of him surviving the arena were very slim, but idk why the guild couldnt just let the event play out without organizing a sureway death. Especially once they saw that random lvl 30-40s were jumping in (which Seq killed 1vs4), so it wasnt a boring event of nothing happening.
If Seq knew that a gangup was being organized, he might have picked the other option he was offered, which was to take the coward debuff and delete all his gear. A mage at low levels isnt very reliant on gear of having those 25% stats you lose from coward, so it would have been a viable way to level
Summit clearly doesn't understand how the arena works. It was intended to be an execution event as content. And the cheater knew that going in.
The dono at the end about playing in the dark 😂
the character was going to be deleted regardless, he avoided being kicked all together. summit hating the 60 is fucking stupid af
THE PROBLEM WITH THIS SCENERIO IS THAT SODA GAVE HIM THE OPTION TO LIVE AND DO THE ARENA BUT THEN BACKSTABBED HIM WITH THE GUILD TO AGREE FOR THE HIGH LEVEL TO KILL HIM IN THE ARENA.
it would have been cooler to see him fighting people closer to his level but its gurubashi arena lol you dont choose who goes in there. I love summit
I mean he did for a while
I liked him till he started crying like a baby over nothing
God this video is actually just audio from a preschool.
Civil war in Twitch sphere and Tyler1 is primal stone of Neutrality.
bro got 2k followers off it and didnt have to plan content for 3months lol
T1 is the only man thinkin, this is crazy and funny lmao
It's obvious Soda just wanted him to die. Why else would he and the trolls encourage the highest level to go and one shot him. Also Sequisha had a rouge helping. So I think the high level one shoting him was fair.
This is a perfectly reasonable amount of drama over the fact a guy sold 2.5g worth of items on the AH
Seems so painfully appropriate for the wow I know
Everyone is complaining about if it was right or wrong, but at the end of the day Sequisha made the decision. Soda told him to either leave the guild and keep your character, or kill your character (original idea).
Even with the new proposal for content, he was still most likely dead. Like cmon, a band of many streamers with all their viewers able to join into this was practical death. Especially since he couldn’t group so he couldn’t even receive heals.
Like yeah it’s a bit of a killer to have a 60 quickly end it, but the restriction itself was already tough to survive as is. So really the idea wasn’t have a chance at surviving, it was kill your character for content. Because the only way you’ll be having your character in the guild is if it faced death.
And if I’m not mistaken Sequisha left the guild after that anyway. He just made the wrong decision if that’s what happened anyway
Summit is so high he's seeing flavors and tasting colors.
he's mad he wasn't the one to do it
14:50 he spoke it into existence
I miss when this was the drama lmao
the fact is Sequisha benefitted more from this death than he would have just getting away with the cheating. He now has more followers and eyes on his stream (t1, soda, savix, miz reactions) while still being able to partake in OnlyFangs content. I think the issue with summit is he expected him to be able to get a fair trial of 15 min of letting people come at him in waves without it being 100% guarantee loss, but I can also see why soda and them wanted it done. they want a clean slate and not some 100 viewer andy ruining it for them
"im not hive mind" FACTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
LAMOOOO TWITTER COMMENT HAD ME ROLLING
Very sad to hear Summit saying his rants have never caused like a massive hate raid, that is besides the point. It will always encourage chat hoppers to echo his opinion and he should 1000% know better, just look at how bad GTA RP viewers can be...
I don't blame Summit. I blame chatters for being losers.
@@RavnesssEXACTLY lmao it's not summits fault people are degenerate losers and hop streams to hate over video games lol
Tyler is definitely one sandwich short of a full picnic basket. It’s very fun.
need more t1 reaction vids
He got to choose a ban or the “duel” lmao he chose death 😂
It was basically gladiator but they throw lions and hyeenas at you, so you're not walking out alive but you can try to sink people with you.
soyboy vs soyboy fighting for the last starbucks latte
WHAT HAPPENED:
The cheater was supposed to fight to the death in a big arena versus other people and try to survive for 10 minutes --> Level 60 guy jumps in and oneshots him immediately --> Summit1g gets mad.
can someone explain this wow situation? is it a tournament or something? i missed the announcement and im lost lol
guy cheated, his punishment was death, sumiit is mad at who did the killing
Basically this.
Guy cheated by disabling the add-on and listing and selling things on auction house
Soda said if anyone cheats they won't make content out of it, but will just kick and move on
Mizkif wanted to make content and asked soda if he could instead go into the arena and if he lives for 10mins he keeps his character and stays in guild
Soda agreed to this so they had this whole arena event thing
Information on the arena in case you don't know (the arena is a place that while you are inside it is a no rules free for all pvp area. So a lv 1 orc could get attacked by a lv 60 orc, faction rules don't apply in there)
Soda and the majority of the trolls sent in there level 60 troll who is a record speed runner hence why he is max only a few days in and just killed the cheater in two hits
Summit is mad because he doesn't feel that was giving the guy a fair chance (which it objectively is not)
Soda is confused why he is mad because if he didn't decide to go against his own word and make content out of a cheater he would just been removed or forced to delete his character and start over again anyway in order to remain in the guild.
You didn't ask, but in my opinion this guy cheating is scum. There are people who never played wow before ever playing this hardcore self-found thing and its not fucking easy. Saying its casual is a joke, i played wow on and off for many many years. I also do hardcore and even i die a lose characters half the time... Meanwhile this guy who actually plays wow is cheating which ruins the integrity of the guild and basically invalidates EVERYONES time. So he really shouldn't of been given a second chance at all and i think soda is being nice allowing him to just start over and trusting the he won't again break the rules... I like summit, but his take he is super wrong in my opinion and he is personally attacking the guy for no reason. Yes summit can disagree with his actions, but you don't have to disagree with something someone does and hate them and go after them. Like i disagree with summit, but i don't sit here saying summit is a piece of shit, idiot for what he says. No i just think he is wrong, which we all are from time to time and move the fuck on.
Streamers play wow, u die once u lose character, u try to level to 60, races compete between each other, later they do some shit together (im a league player but thats all ive got)
@@crosby817 ty mr league player
@@crosby817 thanks
Miz and Soda agreed that he can be free if he survives for 10 minutes. It should have been complete chaos and entertainment. There was no mention of a lvl 60 going in and ending him. The fact that they made a level 60 come in and end it completely ruined the fun and the point of the event. That's why it is Iame.
cx nice try guy you ain't fooling anybody
@@deatherage9751 I'm 100% correct.
@@cx3622 you're 100% not fooling anybody
@@deatherage9751 I am 100% correct still.
Guild drama is a big part of WoW!
Now we just need an E-girl to funnel loot too
Tyler1: these streamers all act like children, i don't have time for this. I'm so much more mature than them.
Also T1: "Is this how drama usually is? Maybe i need to get involved in more drama, it's kinda fun."
Sequisha got a pretty entertaining end for his character compared to the behind the closed doors delete. Only one who is pissed is Summit and people have no idea why. This was great for Sequisha. If I was Sequisha I would've just taunted the F out of the people while standing in the arena waiting to die. Like some kind of pro wrestling bad guy. A missed opportunity.
grandpa vs grandpa
brother is shocked when the executioner brought a sharp axe
I feel like summiit didnt understand that the original punishment for cheating was literally to just kill the character
Wonder if bro still has his moms flower vase.
summit created narrative IN HIS HEAD. that this was supposed to be fair trial or some shit and this was about CASUAL players. With tyrading about how Soda let lose 60 level sweat on small noob. 60 hours exetera. On which Soda told him that THAT DUDE is also a fkng sweat, but ofcourse summit ignored him and kept playing same shit.
There is also an irony how summit was so agains big bully small and then himself, giant fkng streamer was bullying the dude.
biggest problem is.. hardcore mode - casual gaming - but has sweaty mechanics. 🤡
I get summits side but soda was already being lenient not kicking him. The event was supposed to kill him. Hell even the streamer knew he was going to die at that point.
can someone explain whats going on with league terms?
These two guys need to put the soy milk down and pick up a beer
I think the level 60 guy getting in there was fine. It was a free for all thus anyone could jump in there if they want to risk their life to kill that guy. I also think it is fine that the Trolls convinced him to do it. But what i think is a bit problematic is if Sodapoppin made him do it. As the guild leader i think he should stay neutral and not really be on a race/team and have any influence in their decision making as it ruins the power dynamic of the teams if the guild leader is on one of the teams.
for real i love t1 doing wow hardcore shit is fcking funny
It's really weird to me that people genuinely like soda and let him act like he does.
I kinda feel similar to summit, soda says he will gkick etc, doesn't do that instead offers a 10 minute timer to survive to keep his character which is fine, good content and entertainment, he fights his way through multiple opponents ends up in a 3v1 of people similar to his level, level 60 jumps in and instakills him, this is where its no bueno for me why did you offer him the 10 minute timer like he had a chance to fight his way back from his crime of using the AH, like i understand he cheated but if you are offering him a chance to fight for his survival as his punishment and then going and getting the highest level most geared sweatiest player possible to come and execute him it just feels dirty.
Summit being a baby
Derp! 🤓🤡🤡🤡
We need a sopranos role play server
I think summit is too heavily fixated on the guy being level 60 already. This is probably just an ego thing and he's been waiting to shit on that guy. He doesn't really care about the cheater
Troll on troll crime.
I love how summit keeps reiterating that it's his opinion when that's not what is being argued. Literally cannot meet remotely halfway with the person when he feels like he's being attacked. He's so old but still popular with young guys that still act the same way.
13:33 tyler feeling like he got 195iq by stating the obvious is crazy ironic, when in reality he is falling for summits straw-man argument lmfao
He said a minute before he see both sides you lovable guy
@@Tyler-dm1yv weightless statement. he doesnt see shit
Imagine being in a guild that takes 60 hours from you because you bought a 4 stam 4 str leather belt. Gkick him - don't kill him.
"Never ranted against another streamer on stream before", liar, he did this with Lirik in Atlas launch day, i remember.
Tyler's reaction: I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON
cool thanks i really needed his opinion on this
To be fair it's called reacts, not gives opinion on.
@@TheDrizzle404 are you an idiot or something