(CANCELLED) (DEV MOVED ONTO GODOT) A Look at Ultima Underworld in Unity | Installation & Gameplay
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2024
- NOTE: As of January 2024, Hank Morgan has cancelled the Unity project, and has moved onto Godot.
Underworld Godot: github.com/hankmorgan/Underwo...
GitHub page: github.com/hankmorgan/Underwo...
Underworld Exporter: github.com/hankmorgan/Underwo...
Music Pack: github.com/hankmorgan/Underwo...
PS1 version soundtrack: • Ultima Underworld PS1 ...
The r/ultima reddit thread talking about the latest 2 versions I mentioned in the video: / can_anyone_help_me_wit...
A look at Ultima Underworld in the Unity engine. v1.09. The next and hopefully soon to be ideal way to play the classic dungeon crawling game from Blue Sky Productions/Looking Glass & Origin. The Unity version comes with mouselook, 3 different music settings to configure in the config.ini file (PSX/PS1 Sound Blaster 16, & MIDI), higher resolutions, smoother gameplay, quicker transitioning to your stats/skills page and rune bag, etc. It's currently a work-in-progress (the latest release is v1.10 back in 2021, and the playable one being v1.09, which released in 2018), so keep that in mind if you jump in to this.
I did a quick installation guide, with steps from the Looking Glassed channel: • Ultima Underworld Unit...
/ @lookingglassed
As well as gameplay commentary.
00:00 - Intro
00:22 - Installation
06:36 - Blue Text Fix
08:03 - Intro in Unity
11:35 - Gameplay Commentary
#ultima #ultimaunderworld #ultimaunderworldunity 
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Just found out recently from a comment here and elsewhere that Underworld Unity has been cancelled, and that Hank Morgan will be moving everything to Godot. Here's a link: github.com/hankmorgan/UnderworldGodot
It'll take a few more years to catch up, but there's some upside to this. UnderworldGodot "reboots the code base to act more like the Underworld games originally worked."
With all his experience making the "version 1" now he knows how to make a more accurate and better engineered "version 2". This will Ultimately be better long term ;)
@@zyxyuv1650 That is awesome. Would love to see this game tailored to modern day pc's one day.
Origin Systems was so far ahead of every dev shop in the early/mid 90s. The entire Ultima series are such great games. And Origin produced Wing Commander and Privateer. It’s so awesome to see the dev community do ports of these great games and giving them some new life. Thank you for sharing this and the walkthrough to get it setup.
You're welcome. 💀 Ultima really influenced a lot of games that came out later, it's good to see that people are still remembering the series even today.
@@Voidbrand”a lot of games” basically every rpg ever afterwards
This port has a lot of potential, seems like it’ll take awhile to get to a more “complete” state but I feel like it if it gets to how Daggerfall Unity currently is, the modding potential alone would be insane
I like how smooth everything is. It definitely has a lot of potential.
I would really enjoy a daggerfall unity . Hope I'm not captain obvious here. This is quality content. Thanks dood
@@TheFuzzywhumpus Daggerfall Unity has been a thing for a decent bit now, has mod support and it’s main quest is fully playable from start to finish
It’s funny. Progress is needing 1000x the computing power to do the same thing slightly better. The original ran with 4 MB or RAM. I’m betting Unity alone takes at least a GB or RAM.
@@TheFuzzywhumpusbut there IS already a daggerfall unity, including all sorts of mods, including graphics mods
It's crazy to play Daggerfall with parallax mapping rocks in the dungeons, super detailed and DISTANT terrain
As much as I love UU, its pretty hard to play today because of the controls and the low fps. People that are remaking games in modern engines (this, Daggerfall) are doing great things. Thanks for the video.
You're welcome. 💀 I'm pretty used to controls like this having played games similar back in the day, but mouselook is a nice option. At least there's a mouselook patch for the regular ol' DOSBox version.
I noticed before you recreated the save games/slots that the path in the error message had a slash (forward slash) near the end, even though it was on Windows. Also the path in the error message may be in the config file it mentioned, which could be edited to remove or correct it. The first UU is one of my favorite Ultimas; so happy to see people still trying to zdoom it. You could move around and fling objects in UU, like in the later Elder Scrolls games, and they'd skirt across floors and bounce off walls. Pretty advanced shit even for today.
Took me forever to finish it. This was in an era before Gamefaqs. Part of the sticking point was dealing w/level 7 (kiss your mana goodbye until you break the mage's crystal). Another one was figuring out that the incense you light is teaching you a mantra that will help guide you to where you can get one of the Talismans. Finding the three parts of the key to the final area was a thing. Very satisfying once I did complete it.
I waited a little too long on my 1st playthrough to break the mage's crystal on level 7. My favorite quest was the lizardmen quest. The back and forth taking notes to figure out wth they were saying and putting them all together was very satisfying.
In your gaming life there are a few games that stop you in your tracks when you first play them. For me, Ultima Underworld is one of those games, its hard to explain the impact this game had at the time. It was 1 year BD .... (Before Doom 1) but boy did it show what would be around the corner. So glad that people take the time and effort to keeps these games (and the great memories) alive ... a big fist bump from an old time gamer.
Thank you for the detailed installation guide. I hope more people become aware of UU Unity. A month ago I released a music mod with the YT channel Pieces of 8-bit's HQ Remakes (@HQRemakes) for Ultima Underworld Unity (UnderworldExporter) on Nexusmods. I will link to this video in the installation instructions.
That's awesome. I was using Pieces of 8-bit's Daggerfall music mod for Daggerfall Unity back when I played it. Definitely interested in this one. 💀
@@Voidbrand any chance at a daggerfall unity install guide?
@@TheFuzzywhumpus Maybe if there's interest in it, but it's tons easier to install than this one. I guess if I ever get to talking about Daggerfall on here.
@@Voidbrand The initial setup of Daggerfall Unity is easier, but going through all the mods, deciding which to try and hoping that they work together can be very time consuming. With Elder Scrolls or Fallout games I often spend several hours on mods before I start the game. The last time I played Daggerfall I downloaded a mod collection on Nexusmods which somebody else curated. That was my fastest mod setup of a Bethesda game yet.
Should you ever set up your mod configuration of Daggerfall Untiy as a mod collection on Nexusmods (with a video here on YT about the content of the mods), I would definitely appreciate it and give it a try.
That blue text issue was what kept me from playing this version, and I just played the original from GOG. Thanks for that fix. Great video!
Cheers. 💀 I'll personally stick with the original through DOSBox, but I'm curious to see this pan out to something in the future.
One of those games that haunted me back then. I was so in love with the Ultima series but this one was very special. And its soundtrack was so inspiring for my own music. Great guide, I have the GOG version but the original interface remains a bit tricky so I'm glad there's now a plan b. Thanks for sharing all these precious informations.
The mouse’s inertia, the up and down view, etc. Unity provides an incredible smoothness, dynamic physics, etc. UW was great, this is even greater.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I've watched your review and have been looking forward to a new play-through myself. I'll wait for this engine to smooth out its kinks and use it.
You're welcome. 💀 It may be awhile yet.
Loved this game back in the day. Remember finishing it - it took a long time with no internet to help you out - and had some fairly easy to miss things which required a lot of back-tracking, but a fantastic game and the scrolling 3d world was pretty revolutionary back in the early 1992. It came out a year before Doom and even a few months before Wolfenstein so was quite impactful, bringing my brand new pride and joy 486 DX2 66 PC to its knees!
Before Wolfenstein? Didn't know that. It's really impressive.
Banger, thanks for showing it off! Really good idea to play different music versions throughout the video, gives it a nice taste
And dragons *are* an essential UI element 🙏
Can't take the dragons away. 💀
You offended me very much, throwing that skull. That was my grandmother. Thanks for the video. 👍
Oops. We undead have a way of forgetting the human world sometimes. Cheers. 💀
I played the heck out of this originally. I love the free roaming camera. First of it's kind.
Wow! I did not know this was a thing. Thanks for such a clear breakdown on how to get this running - nice work.
You're welcome. 💀
The textures look "cleaner" because the Unity version is (probably) using actual perspective texture-mapping. UW uses affine or linear texture-mapping, which causes warping at the seams (EG - in-between triangles on a quad on the wall) & tends to also warp when the textures are close, but one portion is further away (EG - Moving up to a wall & looking up or down).
Perspective texture-mapping is the gold standard, but it requires dividing each texel by the Z (in camera space) in order to have the perspective work correctly. It was too much for PCs of the early 90s to pull off.
- Ex game programmer
Technically _Quake_ did perspective-correct texture mapping every 16 pixels, but yeah, it was hideously expensive to do in software.
UW isn't even true affine texture mapping. It's some weird hack
Also, the main thing about this version is the lack of dithering and the fact that it has more than 256 colors on screen at any given time because of the smooth darkness, which wasn't possible in the original
Oh man i remember that game, even writing notes on the map. I don't have time to play but so cool people dedicate their time to keep these classics going. I loved my sound blaster card
In '93 (I think) I upgraded to a Gravis Ultrasound. Jaw-dropping difference until the AWE32 came out, and even then I preferred the Gravis MIDI samples.
I really stunned when i saw someone ported retro computer games to unity engine there. That's truly impressive skill of porter there.
Tho, i still wait for complete ver anyway, so i'm gonna looking forward to it.
This game is amazing and still holds up well up to this day. I would genuinely pay money for a remaster/enhanced edition version of this, AKA making it run properly on modern systems/hardware while adding some QoL's to make the game less clunky and outdated with the proper polishing it needs.
I'm enjoying your videos and the dry sense of humour. More please.
Cheers. 💀
fantastic effort all around
Whoa! Just what I asked for. Cool guide, thanks!
Happy it helped. 💀
Thank to YT for putting this in my feed. Never even knew someone worked on a Unity port of Ultima Underworld and that it somehow flew under my radar all these years heh. Followed your guide and got it up and running... its been forever since i last played this game. Guess i have a good excuse to enter into the abyss once again.
I have imported the PSX Underworld when i learned of its existence last year. Nice to see i can use its music, too bad the 3D enemies can't be ported over heh.
I'd like to see a translated version of the PSX game one day. I'm looking to try it out someday anyways.
awesome work/progress , luv 2 see it =]
Cheers, man. 💀
This game is a masterclass in UI design, I wouldn't play it full screen either.
It's nice to have options but I feel the same way.
Nice to see UU getting love. Never completed the game back then and they just feel so dated control wise so I haven't looked into many titles. This might become the version I'll play through some day. Already looking pretty good.
I like how smooth it is. Mouselook is nice too, but I can see some players' reverting to vanilla controls. Until then, there is a mouselook patch on GitHub to use on the DOSBox version, but I don't mind the regular controls too much. But it'll help with jumping.
The controls take some getting used to but once you do UU is a lot of fun. I didn't play these games until the last couple of years and now they're some of my favorites.
@@matternicuss Control issues on many older titles is one of the reasons I got Steam Deck and it's quite good indeed for few days I've now fiddled with it. One can get almost everything tweaked out to personal liking. UU might be interesting first dos emulation tweak to think of it.
@@Asphyxx-up7ii agreed. It’s basically WASD, or a precursor to it
Looking forward to the Raytracing version.
Lol
I hope the port will also support Underworld 2 soon, I'm super excited (also to mess around with god mode and such), I always loved UU, even if I never beat it.
I mentioned it before doing the gameplay retake, but Hank Morgan came back on Jan of this year to reverse engineer the Underworld 2 exe. He's mentioned he made good progress. I'm hoping for the same because Underworld 2 is my favorite, but we'll see. 💀
Hank Morgan is a legend for this but I hope Ultima Underworld Unity gets more support.
Nice, thanks for the guide
Rad channel. You should make a video on HoMM3 or Arx Fatalis
Great video, will check it out in Unity :) Please more videos of classic games like Might & Magic or Wizardry.
Thanks. Still have my boxed copy of VII.
@@Voidbrand great👍 i bought 2-8 all boxed years ago on ebay😇
The project is like 80-90% there for several years, it feels like such a waste 🥲These kind of projects usually skyrocket when more people contribute, if not we can only hope the creator has time and will (similar to the Force Engine source port for Dark Forces, etc.).
Last year i tried to start a less faithful (no reading the original saves for example) recreation of the second game, using Godot Engine and this and other older incomplete sources are very precious to understanding how the original game tech works. Had a good chunk of reading the levels, textures, items, some UI and moving around then i started a new job and had to pause. Hopefully next month i switch to another job with more free time (and less stress) so i'd like to continue again soon.
Another crazy project i have is to map the Thunderscape levels in a user friendly way, that game is a looong journey that could be enjoyed better by people with some aid i think. But for later times!
Another cool thing i discovered is the source port that allows playing Eye of The Beholder with the MegaCD assets on the PC, strange but unique thing.
Underworld 2 in Godot sounds very interesting to me. As well as Eye of the Beholder. I still have a Sega CD copy, which had music compared to the PC version, albeit unfitting but catchy. I should check out that source port one day.
very useful！
I want to play this again when they polish the unity version. Thanks
This conveys well what I hope more devs would embrace when they do remakes of old IPs. Retain of the original as much as is viable, and only 'upgrade' (modernize) the things that actually need it. Regrettably, they tend to alter too much, f. ex. turn a square-grid system into hexagonal-grid in a strategy game, or sprites into forced 3d - basically visualnoising the graphics with modern special effects that make the remake feel nothing like the original.
There's a lot of 90s games especially that I wish would be given a high fidelity remake, with basically the only alterations required are the ones that make them run on modern machines, possibly if it is a multiplayer game bring the netcode up to speed, enabling both LAN and online connections and simultaneous turns for a strategy game. Any larger deviations from the original should be behind an on/off toggle, imo. Should be a no-brainer for a remake to just be a remake, not a re-imagining/interpretation, yet re-imagining is what I regrettably see far too often.
Thats one thing i wonder about daggerfall unity, is that the much better controls may change the gameplay. If it does, hopefully its positive.
Ultima 7 part 2 is my favorite of the ultima series, even with its bug ridden world
Serpent Isle is a great game. Actually ran better for me than Black Gate, which ran too fast.
We really need Nightdive to reboot this
You have good taste in emulators. I'd recommend ditching Kega for Mednafen, but I used Kega for many years.
I probably should. I'm pretty attached to it having used it for so long. Works for every Sega system except Sega CD. If I ever get around to playing Saturn games, Mednafen will be my choice. Used it for PS1 before DuckStation came to the scene.
@@VoidbrandKega works for SegaCD. I’ve played Sonic CD in it. Might just be picky about the Cue bin files you use.
@@NinjaRunningWild It's the files. I don't have the older ones anymore, but the latest cue bin files give me audio desyncing issues in cutscenes. Voice and music is off by a second or 2.
cool.
The little bit I tested, enemies seem to be far more aggressive and maybe even doing more damage or hitting more often, as I just got killed by 3 rats (incl. a white one) swarming me and doing lots of damage. Never happened in the normal game. :D
And yes, the "SB16" music is Roland and the "Midi" sounds odd. Is the "Midi" sound the General Midi patch version of the music? (never tried the GM fan patch)
I have no idea. It says "a midi soundtrack" in the readme. Sounded off as I was playing. The enemies definitely seemed like they hit like a truck.
I appreciate this video and I just have to ask.. is there anyway to port this to android, without fiddling with emulation (I mean both DOSBox and PS emualtion)??? I think this game is super conducive for playing on a touchscreen!
Checked the GitHub page but I'm not seeing anything for that. Probably not since this version isn't quite ironed out yet.
Amazingly it looks more bland with the higher resolution textures? Maybe it's because in the original the walls looked "warped" so it appeared like they weren't just perfectly smooth
I'm pretty sure the Midi track isnt supposed to sound like that. I guess you really need to output it to a proper MIDI device.
You're likely right. It felt off a little to me too.
The backflips required just to adhere to nonsense IPL has cost us so much joy as a species. These games, and everything else, should be open source in max 10 years from first dollar charged. If you can't make your investment back in 10 years, tough.
A pity it's only one guy working on the port, somethings about it are great (like the smooth animations and inventory manipulation) others like mouse look break the original intent IMO. I wish good luck to the dev!
Just a remainder the whole recreation of Daggerfall on Unity was done by one guy and one guy alone, InterKarma. Now we have mods etc but he recreated/reused very cleverly the original game ALONE (arguably the guy does seem to be exceptionally skilled..).
I could not play this game when it released. It asked for a 386 minimum processor. It was frustrating, I had to wait 4 years to finally being able to play it in a 'modern' rig with Windows 95. When I did I understood why it asked for a much more powerful computer. This was not a Wolfenstein 3D.
Sounds cool to have played it around back then anyhow. I played Ultima VII a few years after it came out and it blew me away.
@@Voidbrand U7 was awesome! one of the first openworld/sandbox RPG and one of the goriest games. It was before PEGI and the blood is red, there are mutilations, and one of the companions is a child and can be killed. Something like that cannot be released today 😂
@@gustavosantos106 Well if it did the kids would be invincible. 💀It's my number 1 favorite open world game to this day, and the reason why I like open world in general. Grateful for the Exult devs that help keep the classic alive and playable.
Did they add a spellbook, or a quick way to load a preset set of runes
Same as in the original. Pressing 'q' to quickly cast is nice, and the only difference.
it would be nice to have ai upscaled textures
For some reason my helmets disappear.
Oh wow, i've always liked the aesthetics of ultima underworld, but after arx fatalis I couldn't really get over the immesly dodgy mouse controls (feels like there's grit in the mouseball... in a laser mouse). SO this could be a great way to finally enjoy a classic.
I had the same mouse controls with Underworld, but if it's the same then it can be fixed by bumping the mouse sensitivity in GOGs DOSBox config to 200 or so.
with the Gog version it's the user interface that I dislike. That needs reworking.
So is this and Ultima Underworld 2 on Unity 100% playable and beatable?
Just checked the github page. Just Underworld 1 is beatable. 2 is partially supported.
@@Voidbrand Anyways I noticed wrong and that's trying to change keybindings.
Togglemouselook is set to "E"
I changed it to "Tab" in the config notpad. But for some reason its not working as intended and when I press tab its like its toggling mouse look on and off at the same time.
4:55 today :)
Support for high refresh rate monitors for 144fps?
If there is a way I'm not sure. No in-game options and nothing in the config ini file for 60fps+.
@@Voidbrand I reckon that won't stop me from playing them. Just bought both 1&2 off GOG. Childhood here I come.
I don't have to go through this palaver, playing the original is fine by me! Although one way there will be an installer that will automate everything.
It's just not the same without the 256 18-bit colors VGA aesthetic of the original
what are the requierements for running this?
Good question. The readme doesn't say so I can't say for sure.
Im not sure how I feel about it. To me the biggest selling point would be jumping but everything else.. Id rather play the original honestly
What is the status of UU Unity, considering the incredibly hostile terms of service Unity has displayed towards developers?
Last update was in July. I imagine he's still working on it despite that recent kerfuffle.
"Current project focus has been on reverse engineering and additions to the editor . I'm hoping to swtich to feature implementation soon but time is limited. Bug fixes may be infrequent as I just want to get features added to UW2 before focusing on polish."
nice but I prefer the original engine, this one is too clean...
TL;DW It's broken.
For all these game vids I believe if you got a chance to collaborate with LGR I think it would be a great thing :)
www.youtube.com/@LGR/featured
LOL who pays for old games nowadays? Nice to see it on Unity just like Daggerfall
@@AB0BA_69You’re just paying a publisher or rights holder, not the developers, so basically all you’ve proven is that you’re a blind rules follower. Ethics can only enter the equation after critical thinking has occurred.
I tried using this but could not for the life of me figure out how to install it, and believe me I spent hours but I coudnt not figure it out using the mod authors instructions, its like they assumed youd know how to advanced computer stuff.
That's what I heard, had to check YT to get the steps right. A few people commented on a guide for installing Underworld Exporter before this video was made, so I hope it's working all right.