Lived with a guy in college who tried to roll back some miles on his own odometer. He hooked up the power drill wrong to the odometer cable and ended up adding 20,000 miles instead!
Lol that’s not how those old odometer cables even worked.They add miles in both directions.Did he think that ferrari scene in “Ferris Buellers day off” was actually true?
Steve Kroft never got the credit he deserved. He, through most of his career at 60 Minutes, took on the scammers and the wealthy investors. Then, someone in the executive offices must have sent him a message to lay off these types of stories. Because toward the end of his time at 60 minutes, we didn't see much of him taking on the big wigs (Wall Street). Sorry to see him go; he'll be greatly missed.
I think it's because tv stations didn't want to be labeled as a rat and loose the advertising contracts to the competition who turns the blind eye. Also, to some, when targeted by network television it seems like "extortion for not buying advertising" or racketeering against the competition.
@@motherfuckerjones4417 Nah, I had a Mercedes of that vintage and I just nodded when he spoke of the windows that don't work. Let me guess, the heating / cooling, the locks, the transmission. Sorry, they were junk.
From a court case in 1990: “On November 1, 1990, a gunman fired shots into the Houston car-leasing business of Charles Vance, who had assisted the "60 Minutes" investigation of Whitlow. Larry Scott Bennett, an employee of Whitlow, was arrested and later convicted of retaliation against Vance. Bennett confessed that Whitlow and Travis Barnes, another used-car dealer, had expressed willingness to pay $500 to anybody who would retaliate against Vance.“ It was quite dangerous to do the right thing back in those days.
Me 1985 birthday makes me 35 of hearing this.and it was something I enjoyed all MY life . It MADE our home a real home sound if you know what I mean yeah the TV was running and dinner was cooking we really didn't at the dinner table and the show was on we're watching it that was a good old days and I'm glad that they're posted here on RUclips forever and I'm going to hunt down every single one of them I love all these shows 48 hours 60 minutes even A&e shows first 48 60 days in lockup from MSNBC I like all kinds of stuff like this I also listen to NPR I just listen to The click and Clack Brothers on NPR love those guys one of them passed away a few years ago but their voice is live on and it just bring back memories I'm just a little old school if it's on 35 years old it can remember like it was just yesterday that I seen and heard these even though I never heard this exact episode it's amazing too watch it and I love the 60-minute rewinds please post more thank you Jay from Corpus Christi Texas much love brother & sister's from another mother out there! BY THE WAY I'M SUBBING TO THIS CHANNEL EVEN BEFORE I FINISH WATCHING IT THANKS AGAIN ♥️
Me 1985 birthday makes me 35 of hearing this.and it was something I enjoyed all MY life . It MADE our home a real home sound if you know what I mean yeah the TV was running and dinner was cooking we really didn't at the dinner table and the show was on we're watching it that was a good old days and I'm glad that they're posted here on RUclips forever and I'm going to hunt down every single one of them I love all these shows 48 hours 60 minutes even A&e shows first 48 60 days in lockup from MSNBC I like all kinds of stuff like this I also listen to NPR I just listen to The click and Clack Brothers on NPR love those guys one of them passed away a few years ago but their voice is live on and it just bring back memories I'm just a little old school if it's on 35 years old it can remember like it was just yesterday that I seen and heard these even though I never heard this exact episode it's amazing too watch it and I love the 60-minute rewinds please post more thank you Jay from Corpus Christi Texas much love brother & sister's from another mother out there! BY THE WAY I'M SUBBING TO THIS CHANNEL EVEN BEFORE I FINISH WATCHING IT THANKS AGAIN!!!!
I worked in retail car business in the late 90s and early 2000s. The fraud was off the charts. Repaired wrecks, rolled back high milers, flooded rebuilds and many others. On new car lots lots of times. The used only car lots were flooded with garbage cars. Car fax, kbb, the internet in general educated consumers to a whole new level. Which made the car business some what honest. People these days are all kinds of car educated. Men and women. Take a customer from 2020 and send them back to 1998 and u will see someone laugh all the way in and out the dealerships. Those dirt bags made millions off of uneducated buyers.
i remember my uncle and a friend took some time one day taking a whole dash apart and brought the instrument panel in on the kitchen table, taking the odometer apart and replacing the individual wheels rolling back the miles on the car. it wasnt easy to do but easy if you had the time and commitment.
Wash a title in 2 states and you can change the mileage still. New cluster. Make a r title clean. Granted technology has come a long way, but not all the way. Just check out eBay if you wanna see some active dealers. Philly has a ton.
You can't trust carfax. 1. It's inaccurate (experienced first hand) 2. They don't stand by their accuracy/money back guarantee (their report did not match the DMV records) & are super shady. Annoyingly it's the Carfax that usually reassures people when it seems from having talked to others & the authorities, that it's a totally meaningless piece of paper that's often wrong. Carfax are a total scam... Probably a load of ex used car dealers running it.
@chakur25 More than half of the "private" sales are flippers or dealers. And unless it is a one owner family friend you don't know what the real history is.
Installing a used instrument cluster defeats any mechanical odometer, but now you would also have to swap the computer & instrument cluster, which is expensive...
I sold an old Honda Accord to a mechanic. The car had been pampered but had some needed high-labor repairs. I received a phone call from a guy the mechanic sold it to asking about the mileage. The mechanic rolled the miles back from 215,000 to 166,000 or so. The eventual buyer was denied registration. I sent him the P&S and I have not heard back (hope he was able to correct the situation). My mistake was that I didn't record the mileage on the title when I sold the car.
@@judiesuh6858 It doesn’t happen on any type of large basis. Is there a person here or there that finds a way to roll back/replace an odometer? Of course. In any business or venture they will always be fraud and dishonest people. However, is it still happening on anything approaching a widespread basis like the era this was filmed? No. The original poster just wanted to say something to sound intelligent and informed. But he’s wrong. Trust your instincts when you see people like him saying things that are completely nonsensical and wrong.
LOL, I never knew 'Cream Puff' was a real term. Only place I've ever heard it was Tony Montana in Scarface describing that yellow Cadillac with leopard seats
Absolutely true. These car dealers have brought this on themselves. You are crazy to buy a used car from a dealer. Buy it from an individual and if you're not mechanically inclined, pay a mechanic to check it out. You'll still pay less.
Problem is there's now a lot of dealers pretending to be individuals on Craigslist. Gets me so mad as turns into a giant waste of time when you get there and realize they're blatantly a dealer posing as some random dude selling their car at their house.
Back in the early 70's (as a teen) I worked for a guy who would hauled in these crap cars.... My job was to wash them...another guy got the cars tuned up and running... Another guy cleaned/painted the engines.... But this one guy came in after we were done....he always carried a bag. Once I asked my boss, "What does that guy do?" My boss said..."Shut up...get out!" A few days later I would see these same POS cars at used car lots.... and on the windows they'd write stuff like...LOW MILES...!!! CREAM PUFF..!!! ONE OWNER...!!!! I learned a LOT about cars...! Ha!
“I have not filed taxes in over13 years...” who said that? A - used car salesman 1988 in Houston Texas. B - President of The United States 2020. C - All of the Above. 😫
People with money/businesses have never paid taxes and probably never will. WaPo writes negative articles about Trump's legal tax practices while Bezos pays none...but who cares.
I started in the car business in 97 and I can remember getting asked a lot back in those days by customers if the odometer had been tampered with and I would bet it was on anyone’s radar because of this particular story on 60 minutes.
@10:53, that sales manager says, "I do not know that", instead of "I don't know that". That's called "selling the lie". When people want to convince you they're not lying, they don't use contractions.
Morley Safer was an absolute beast of a reporter. So was Steve Kroft. Been watching for over 20 years. Sundays with 60 minutes then last week tonight a few hours later, some hash oil and Chinese food.... yum
I gotta say this report is so informative and good I'm actually gonna take notes and consider this next time I go car shopping... btw the guy at 14:39 is the MVP of the story 🤣🤣
Back when 60 Minutes was investigative. and not so political. I have a book at home with all the episodes chronological. I just can't throw that old book away. Would be great to have a place to watch all the old episodes. Like the highway gas station and the guys shooting oil on the ground telling people their shocks we leaking etc.
It's a lot more difficult to do this on modern cars. Forget that the milage is stored in multiple separate controllers, the digital display itself requires a much more difficult process to change.
This is so funny watching how no one could easily check records when the internet did not exist. All cars from 1981 on have standardized vin number and records including miles attached to the vin, but before the internet no one would check this info. I have been a car dealer much of my life, there are plenty of honest guys out there but also a ton of sharks.
Well yeah because today is modern cars patcullary of the 2010sbthe odometer is now digital and unless you're like a good hacker highly doubt that you can change how much the speed is on a used car.
So there was this in the 90s and today they rip you off by over-inflating prices in Kelly Bluebook (a trusted source in its day) which is owned by Carmax or some other huge car-selling corporation. Recently, I looked at a 1.5 year old car with 46K on it (ex rental) and ended up at another dealer where I got a brand new one (6 miles on it) for the same price with 5 minutes of haggling.
This kind of activity is a thing of the past. Plus if you rolled the miles back too much, the condition of the vehicle would not even be close to matching.
There are electronic tools that do this. A dealer Down the street does it. A couple of dealers were caught doing it. Just like those thieves that clone your car keys from outside your house and drive off with your f150. It’s super common
That scene where he was turning back the mileage on the Dodge really interested me: I have that same, exact speedometer (removed from a car and the casing) sitting on a shelf in my basement and I STILL don't know how he turned the last wheel on a closed-reel King-Seeley odometer without breaking it! It's easy to turn back if you take the reel out, but to do it while it's still in the car? How did he do that?
Damned impossible know unless you know software. The odometer on my car is digital. And pretty much any vehicle built after 1996 has a little thing called OBD-II.
I bought my 1982 Mercedes 300D in 2009 with 183k miles showing. History showed it had 189k miles in 1994. No problem, I reset the odometer to 000,000. Have 119k on it now.
@@alexm566 the implication I was getting at was that by rolling the odometer back you would get your warranty back (i.e. a manufacturer's 60,000 mile warranty is still valid on a used car that has been clocked back from 100,000 miles to 40,000 miles). As for extended warranties, you should never get them. The manufacturer by selling you the item has implied that the product is fit for purpose, meaning that it would have the durability you come to expect from what you purchased. For instance, a big ticket item like a car, you should expect to not need major repairs on it for the first 10 years of ownership or 250,000 miles, whichever is less. If you have to purchase an additional warranty to get that piece of mind then you really shouldn't be dealing with the company. Similar thing for things like laptops and electronics. If it breaks, that's on the manufacturer not on you.
@@j2simpso afaik all manufacturer warranties are milage or years, whichever comes first, and most of these cases the years would already make the warranty invalid even if it's within milage. Did you see manufacturer warranty valid for more than 3 years? maybe 5?
Ron Levitt sells cream puffs. If you're from Philly you'll remember that used car lot on the boulevard. I'd love to have some of those cars now, not that they were particularly cream puffs but they were a lot of 60s muscle cars Hemis, 440 six packs, SS 396 and 427 powered stuff, Mercury cyclones, I even saw a Shelby mustang there. Of course then they were just four or five year old used muscle cars. If only I had a time machine.
It might be counter intuitive but mileage isn't the be all end all when it comes to weather a used car will be reliable or not. A better indicator or wear and tear on the motor would be the number of cold start hours, a car that starts cold and goes 5 miles has the same wear as a car that starts cold and is driven 50 miles.
This was filmed prior to the point when Morley's voice was totally burned out from decades of cigarette smoking. There came a point when you could clearly hear the rattling thick mucous
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Lived with a guy in college who tried to roll back some miles on his own odometer. He hooked up the power drill wrong to the odometer cable and ended up adding 20,000 miles instead!
Lol that’s not how those old odometer cables even worked.They add miles in both directions.Did he think that ferrari scene in “Ferris Buellers day off” was actually true?
Really wish they'd upload more long segments like this from the past. I would always watch this program with my late grandfather together.
Awe~ that's so nice!!
Where is Vintage OPRAH??
That's nice to hear.
I try often to go over to my parents and watch it with my dad.
Andy Roonyisms were the BEST!
This is the America we love. I would watch this growing up with my mum and I’m not even American.
Steve Kroft never got the credit he deserved. He, through most of his career at 60 Minutes, took on the scammers and the wealthy investors. Then, someone in the executive offices must have sent him a message to lay off these types of stories. Because toward the end of his time at 60 minutes, we didn't see much of him taking on the big wigs (Wall Street). Sorry to see him go; he'll be greatly missed.
@unarmed blackman I think he meant Steve’s retirement from the show in 2019. He’s still alive, just not doing any more work for 60 minutes.
I think it's because tv stations didn't want to be labeled as a rat and loose the advertising contracts to the competition who turns the blind eye.
Also, to some, when targeted by network television it seems like "extortion for not buying advertising" or racketeering against the competition.
He was awarded the Peabody award on three separate occasions. That’s the highest award a journalist can achieve. He was great!
Yeah, it was easy to take down some yokels down there in Houston
I love these 1990 episodes. It's almost like going back to being a kid
That guy with the Mercedes and his "pretentious little wipers" is the gem of this investigative journalism
Most of the problems he had would have happened anyway on those junks
RICH PEOPLE DONT BUY THAT MERCEDES!
@@ScottyT418 Junks? You obviously don’t know anything about cars. That era of Mercedes was the best.
@@motherfuckerjones4417 Nah, I had a Mercedes of that vintage and I just nodded when he spoke of the windows that don't work. Let me guess, the heating / cooling, the locks, the transmission. Sorry, they were junk.
@@motherfuckerjones4417 I sold mine for $50 just to get rid of it.
Back when hidden cameras were the size of a microwave. Need a whole RV to hide it.
I'd forgotten how good 60 Minutes used to be.
@@americarocks1776 60 minutes is all global warming and politics. I'll spend my 60 minutes elsewhere.
@@TheBandit7613 welp, they do cover the biggest stories. So......
@@TheBandit7613 Bye...
@@joshlewis575 I only see them hiding from the big stories today
The tick tick tick tick meant grab your popcorn.
If you search Cream Puff in 2020 i am thinking you will not get used cars in the results.
i did and its not cars
Search "creampie" and I guarantee your results won't have anything to do with baked goods.
@@ryanduray1 what would you see?
@@bigvito69 It has something to do with how babies are made. That's all I'm gonna say.
Car dealers are scumbags, always have and always will be...
60 Minutes needs to put the entire back catalogue online
Wow! I remember this segment from when I was 8 and my dad would always make us watch 60 Minutes after dinner every Sunday 😫
Good Dad.
The guy who gotten taken for a ride on the rolled back Merc is a character! Someone give this man a mic. 😂
"The heavy-set fellow" lol
..."With the Boss Hogg hat"
@Kurt Russell He and Cletus went down to the Boar's Nest to find Roscoe.
😂😂🎅🎅
Some things never change...we've always had our issues. :D Dukes of Hazzard was on to something.
Throwback cat like a mugh!!
Steve Kroft and Morely Safer? What a legendary piece
I love old 60 minute and
their legendary anchors.. Morley Safer rest in peace!
I think it's safe to say we need more from the archives
When journalism was journalism
Still is
@@poochyenarulez no it's not
@@MyerShift7 Why would you say that?
Journalism hasn't changed bud.
Watching this from my rolled-back iPhone.
😆
Let me guess a one year old iPhone 3GS? 😂
My iPhone is hacked and cracked. Jail broke too.... 😬
@@seanmurphy4465 in other words it’s a real cream puff
From a court case in 1990:
“On November 1, 1990, a gunman fired shots into the Houston car-leasing business of Charles Vance, who had assisted the "60 Minutes" investigation of Whitlow. Larry Scott Bennett, an employee of Whitlow, was arrested and later convicted of retaliation against Vance. Bennett confessed that Whitlow and Travis Barnes, another used-car dealer, had expressed willingness to pay $500 to anybody who would retaliate against Vance.“
It was quite dangerous to do the right thing back in those days.
Been watching the show for over 31 years, and COUNTING,,,,,,,,, Love it.
👍🙏👏🤭🧐💕👏
Me 1985 birthday makes me 35 of hearing this.and it was something I enjoyed all MY life . It MADE our home a real home sound if you know what I mean yeah the TV was running and dinner was cooking we really didn't at the dinner table and the show was on we're watching it that was a good old days and I'm glad that they're posted here on RUclips forever and I'm going to hunt down every single one of them I love all these shows 48 hours 60 minutes even A&e shows first 48 60 days in lockup from MSNBC I like all kinds of stuff like this I also listen to NPR I just listen to The click and Clack Brothers on NPR love those guys one of them passed away a few years ago but their voice is live on and it just bring back memories I'm just a little old school if it's on 35 years old it can remember like it was just yesterday that I seen and heard these even though I never heard this exact episode it's amazing too watch it and I love the 60-minute rewinds please post more thank you Jay from Corpus Christi Texas much love brother & sister's from another mother out there!
BY THE WAY I'M SUBBING TO THIS CHANNEL EVEN BEFORE I FINISH WATCHING IT THANKS AGAIN ♥️
Me 1985 birthday makes me 35 of hearing this.and it was something I enjoyed all MY life . It MADE our home a real home sound if you know what I mean yeah the TV was running and dinner was cooking we really didn't at the dinner table and the show was on we're watching it that was a good old days and I'm glad that they're posted here on RUclips forever and I'm going to hunt down every single one of them I love all these shows 48 hours 60 minutes even A&e shows first 48 60 days in lockup from MSNBC I like all kinds of stuff like this I also listen to NPR I just listen to The click and Clack Brothers on NPR love those guys one of them passed away a few years ago but their voice is live on and it just bring back memories I'm just a little old school if it's on 35 years old it can remember like it was just yesterday that I seen and heard these even though I never heard this exact episode it's amazing too watch it and I love the 60-minute rewinds please post more thank you Jay from Corpus Christi Texas much love brother & sister's from another mother out there!
BY THE WAY I'M SUBBING TO THIS CHANNEL EVEN BEFORE I FINISH WATCHING IT THANKS AGAIN!!!!
I had to stop watching when the journalists had all passed on and there was just the anti-Trump agenda hacks.
Ever since I was a little kid , the tick tick tick tick meant grab some popcorn.
"The bullets holes in your office are nothing compared to the bullet holes you're going to find in your body."
"Mmmmhmmm"
Love that guy hahaha
Those two guys have guts. And ponytail Mercedes guy is a riot.
"I wouldn't be so sure of your mother" lol
Lol
I've built lots of Transmissions for the used car lots around here and never heard the word Cream Puff I think I'm bringing it back Haha
I worked in retail car business in the late 90s and early 2000s.
The fraud was off the charts.
Repaired wrecks, rolled back high milers, flooded rebuilds and many others.
On new car lots lots of times.
The used only car lots were flooded with garbage cars.
Car fax, kbb, the internet in general educated consumers to a whole new level. Which made the car business some what honest.
People these days are all kinds of car educated. Men and women.
Take a customer from 2020 and send them back to 1998 and u will see someone laugh all the way in and out the dealerships.
Those dirt bags made millions off of uneducated buyers.
Not to Mention making the odometer digital.
this one is one of my favorite 60 minutes episodes
i remember my uncle and a friend took some time one day taking a whole dash apart and brought the instrument panel in on the kitchen table, taking the odometer apart and replacing the individual wheels rolling back the miles on the car. it wasnt easy to do but easy if you had the time and commitment.
I remember watching this when it originally aired. Back when Kroft was one of the younger guys behind Safer, Bradley, Simon and Wallace.
He looked good dressed down, didn't he?
Last comment lol: Congratulations to Bob Anderson on his retirement! He and Mike Wallace are legends
Mike Wallace and I had the same birthday now it’s just mine!
Who's Bob Anderson?
9:02 Ha, Daihatsu. I haven't heard about them in a looong time.
And their Korean equivalent Daewoo!
Boss Hogg, "Not exactly legal" !?$%
Matilda’s dad was a cream puff salesman
60 Minutes used to be savage! Hope those two gentlemen were ok.
Those guys showed some real courage sticking up for what was right against a lot of people who didn't appreciate that. I wonder if they regretted it.
Ahh yes, a world before carfax and easily accessible internet databases.
Wash a title in 2 states and you can change the mileage still. New cluster. Make a r title clean. Granted technology has come a long way, but not all the way.
Just check out eBay if you wanna see some active dealers. Philly has a ton.
But wrecked & flood damaged cars still reappear on car lots...
You can't trust carfax. 1. It's inaccurate (experienced first hand) 2. They don't stand by their accuracy/money back guarantee (their report did not match the DMV records) & are super shady. Annoyingly it's the Carfax that usually reassures people when it seems from having talked to others & the authorities, that it's a totally meaningless piece of paper that's often wrong. Carfax are a total scam... Probably a load of ex used car dealers running it.
car🦊?
@chakur25 More than half of the "private" sales are flippers or dealers. And unless it is a one owner family friend you don't know what the real history is.
This story is amazing.. especially Greg Carliss @14:40-15:50.. they could really make a movie based on this story with all these characters!
I remember this story, one of my favorites, I think now that this was the birth of carfax and digital dash
Wow grandpa, what news investigation and actual reporting looks like!
This still happens today, even with new cars. It's much harder to do nowadays, with things like Carfax and computer odometers, but it's still done.
Installing a used instrument cluster defeats any mechanical odometer, but now you would also have to swap the computer & instrument cluster, which is expensive...
How??
I sold an old Honda Accord to a mechanic. The car had been pampered but had some needed high-labor repairs. I received a phone call from a guy the mechanic sold it to asking about the mileage. The mechanic rolled the miles back from 215,000 to 166,000 or so. The eventual buyer was denied registration. I sent him the P&S and I have not heard back (hope he was able to correct the situation).
My mistake was that I didn't record the mileage on the title when I sold the car.
@@judiesuh6858 It doesn’t happen on any type of large basis. Is there a person here or there that finds a way to roll back/replace an odometer? Of course. In any business or venture they will always be fraud and dishonest people.
However, is it still happening on anything approaching a widespread basis like the era this was filmed? No. The original poster just wanted to say something to sound intelligent and informed. But he’s wrong. Trust your instincts when you see people like him saying things that are completely nonsensical and wrong.
I feel like there wouldn't be much incentive to do it on a brand-new car
This is awesome. Carlos shouting from inside a Mercedes was incredible tv
LOL, I never knew 'Cream Puff' was a real term. Only place I've ever heard it was Tony Montana in Scarface describing that yellow Cadillac with leopard seats
My mom would say it and I heard some others use the term, but I didn't realize it referred specifically to used cars.
I came here expecting a video on the dessert from the Wisconsin state fair. Oh well.
I bought a piece of crap “ but still I own a Mercedes”- LOL
Love that dude with the Mercedes
Ain't nothing like a late 80's-early 90's stock broker with wet slick backed hair.
Looks like Tony Little!!!!! LOL!!!
I’m loving that blue 87 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme at 11:39 byuoooty-ful
Prolly had its odometer rolled back too
"Your used car might have been around the block more times than you thought...
...just like your mother"
Gotem
🤣
So the only way to buy a used car is not on the lot but from the individual. Thanks for the advice guys.
Absolutely true. These car dealers have brought this on themselves. You are crazy to buy a used car from a dealer. Buy it from an individual and if you're not mechanically inclined, pay a mechanic to check it out. You'll still pay less.
Problem is there's now a lot of dealers pretending to be individuals on Craigslist. Gets me so mad as turns into a giant waste of time when you get there and realize they're blatantly a dealer posing as some random dude selling their car at their house.
@@emmag9362 You just have to search deeper and you will find individuals
Before “cream puffs,” these cars were called “barely legal,” cars.
Back in the early 70's (as a teen) I worked for a guy who would hauled in these crap cars....
My job was to wash them...another guy got the cars tuned up and running... Another guy cleaned/painted the engines....
But this one guy came in after we were done....he always carried a bag. Once I asked my boss, "What does that guy do?" My boss said..."Shut up...get out!"
A few days later I would see these same POS cars at used car lots.... and on the windows they'd write stuff like...LOW MILES...!!! CREAM PUFF..!!! ONE OWNER...!!!! I learned a LOT about cars...! Ha!
Back when news was generally not fake. I miss these days
If you believe that the news is generally fake, then I'd like you to take a look at a nice clean used Mercedes I have for you.
@@frankhoward7645 It's agenda driven. If you don't believe that I got a BMW for you.
Those were the days when you can make an honest buck by rolling back the odometer
Honest?
Hahahahaha
Brave investigators! Hope nothing ever happened to them or their families!
Such good television, and useful for society.
I like the used car manager that said what do you care if you don't wanna buy it!
“I have not filed taxes in over13 years...” who said that?
A - used car salesman 1988 in Houston Texas.
B - President of The United States 2020.
C - All of the Above.
😫
People with money/businesses have never paid taxes and probably never will. WaPo writes negative articles about Trump's legal tax practices while Bezos pays none...but who cares.
Correct answer is A.
I started in the car business in 97 and I can remember getting asked a lot back in those days by customers if the odometer had been tampered with and I would bet it was on anyone’s radar because of this particular story on 60 minutes.
@10:53, that sales manager says, "I do not know that", instead of "I don't know that". That's called "selling the lie". When people want to convince you they're not lying, they don't use contractions.
I did not know that.
Morley Safer was an absolute beast of a reporter. So was Steve Kroft. Been watching for over 20 years. Sundays with 60 minutes then last week tonight a few hours later, some hash oil and Chinese food.... yum
This is why it's a good thing that the odometer is now digital
Those two guys laughing every time the fat guy said something incriminating is the best. They probably couldn't believe their luck.
Incredible
I’d love a follow up on this story
Yes..to see if it's still done today!!
@@judiesuh6858 it is.
I gotta say this report is so informative and good I'm actually gonna take notes and consider this next time I go car shopping... btw the guy at 14:39 is the MVP of the story 🤣🤣
Back when 60 Minutes was investigative. and not so political. I have a book at home with all the episodes chronological. I just can't throw that old book away. Would be great to have a place to watch all the old episodes. Like the highway gas station and the guys shooting oil on the ground telling people their shocks we leaking etc.
The used car dealers probably thought they were going to do a story on rampant coke use in the industry.
One of the reasons I always buy used cars with high mileage. NOBODY spins an odometer to 100,000+ miles.
Thankfully now & days it’s easy to look up service records on a car & catch on to this type of scam
It's a lot more difficult to do this on modern cars. Forget that the milage is stored in multiple separate controllers, the digital display itself requires a much more difficult process to change.
It's funny how often shady dealership owners look like Boss Hogg from the "Dukes of Hazzard".
Dead !! Coo coo
This has been going on forever, The first car invented had -1000 miles on it .
Lol
I remember this episode. I’m wondering, today all Of the odometers are digital. Does this problem still exist?
Wow this aired on my Birthday, I hit 10 years old in 90
18:08 that ‘yeaa’ was perfect
This is so funny watching how no one could easily check records when the internet did not exist. All cars from 1981 on have standardized vin number and records including miles attached to the vin, but before the internet no one would check this info. I have been a car dealer much of my life, there are plenty of honest guys out there but also a ton of sharks.
This seems quaint by 2020 standards
Like a jolly good ole time
@@dl1129 I was a teenager in the 70s, so I'll trade places with you so I can be younger.
@@dl1129 I was a teenager in the 70's and didn't think it was that great. I think it depends on your circumstances.
Well yeah because today is modern cars patcullary of the 2010sbthe odometer is now digital and unless you're like a good hacker highly doubt that you can change how much the speed is on a used car.
Watching this from Houston. 🤦🏼♀️
Me too! That greenspoint dealership is still there...
Everybody in Houston is on the take, lol.
Bill Whitlow looks like “he hasn’t missed too many meals” as my late Mom used to say. Looks like my ex-fiancée’s Mom. 🤣🤣🤣
So there was this in the 90s and today they rip you off by over-inflating prices in Kelly Bluebook (a trusted source in its day) which is owned by Carmax or some other huge car-selling corporation. Recently, I looked at a 1.5 year old car with 46K on it (ex rental) and ended up at another dealer where I got a brand new one (6 miles on it) for the same price with 5 minutes of haggling.
Great investigative journalism
this still goes on today,,,,,,,
I'm pretty sure this happened to me back when I was younger because the odometer was always off looking it was back in 1995
When then was journalistic integrity and you could trust the words coming out of a reporter- 60 mins had some great one's.
You still can
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Lord no
@@jimwerther what do you mean? 60 minutes still makes great content
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They have increasingly become part of the leftist propaganda machine in recent decades
@@jimwerther what leads you to believe that?
This kind of activity is a thing of the past. Plus if you rolled the miles back too much, the condition of the vehicle would not even be close to matching.
I'd like to see the one where you mounted fireworks to the Chevy truck and had it explode.
That was Dateline not 60 Minutes
The tradition continues with Rob Wolchek and the "Hall of Shame!".
Maybe those Cream puffs were really more reliable than we thought. Since more miles than we thought.
There are electronic tools that do this. A dealer Down the street does it. A couple of dealers were caught doing it. Just like those thieves that clone your car keys from outside your house and drive off with your f150. It’s super common
Any one more interested in gazing at all those clean 80s/90s cars and wish we could go back to that time?
I remember my mom telling me about this 🤣
Watch the movie Used Cars , with Kurt Russell , great comedy and really shows the business .
Haha Luke Fuchs buried in the Edsel.
That movie is a classic!
That scene where he was turning back the mileage on the Dodge really interested me: I have that same, exact speedometer (removed from a car and the casing) sitting on a shelf in my basement and I STILL don't know how he turned the last wheel on a closed-reel King-Seeley odometer without breaking it! It's easy to turn back if you take the reel out, but to do it while it's still in the car? How did he do that?
The wonderful culture and people of Texas.
This happened nationwide, so what are you getting at?
60 Minutes Greatness !
Wow 🔥
Please keep old 69 minutes episodes! I’m hooked on these.
Damned impossible know unless you know software. The odometer on my car is digital. And pretty much any vehicle built after 1996 has a little thing called OBD-II.
I bought my 1982 Mercedes 300D in 2009 with 183k miles showing. History showed it had 189k miles in 1994. No problem, I reset the odometer to 000,000. Have 119k on it now.
What was your point?
@Super Jesus christ you're stupid. :-)
@@bobe3250 Super stupid to you.
This was before the days of Carfax and Autocheck. Always run a Carfax!
"Are you sure that's the right speedometer mileage?"
lol you goober, you mean odometer!!! Lol!!!
How is this any different from selling an extended warranty?
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wait..whats wrong about extended warranty?
@@alexm566 the implication I was getting at was that by rolling the odometer back you would get your warranty back (i.e. a manufacturer's 60,000 mile warranty is still valid on a used car that has been clocked back from 100,000 miles to 40,000 miles).
As for extended warranties, you should never get them. The manufacturer by selling you the item has implied that the product is fit for purpose, meaning that it would have the durability you come to expect from what you purchased. For instance, a big ticket item like a car, you should expect to not need major repairs on it for the first 10 years of ownership or 250,000 miles, whichever is less. If you have to purchase an additional warranty to get that piece of mind then you really shouldn't be dealing with the company. Similar thing for things like laptops and electronics. If it breaks, that's on the manufacturer not on you.
@@j2simpso afaik all manufacturer warranties are milage or years, whichever comes first, and most of these cases the years would already make the warranty invalid even if it's within milage. Did you see manufacturer warranty valid for more than 3 years? maybe 5?
Now they dont even have to remove anything.. They can use readily available programmers..
Ron Levitt sells cream puffs.
If you're from Philly you'll remember that used car lot on the boulevard.
I'd love to have some of those cars now, not that they were particularly cream puffs but they were a lot of 60s muscle cars Hemis, 440 six packs, SS 396 and 427 powered stuff, Mercury cyclones, I even saw a Shelby mustang there. Of course then they were just four or five year old used muscle cars. If only I had a time machine.
"Anglo American Auctions" lol
Carfax reports and computerized speedometer/odometer heads have eliminated much of this, but it still happens. Ahhh, the good old days....
It might be counter intuitive but mileage isn't the be all end all when it comes to weather a used car will be reliable or not. A better indicator or wear and tear on the motor would be the number of cold start hours, a car that starts cold and goes 5 miles has the same wear as a car that starts cold and is driven 50 miles.
This was filmed prior to the point when Morley's voice was totally burned out from decades of cigarette smoking. There came a point when you could clearly hear the rattling thick mucous