Roger Penrose & Yang Hui He
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- Roger Penrose is a mathematical physicist from England and winner of the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2020. He is recognized for his work in mathematical physics, particularly his contributions to the theory of general relativity and cosmology.
Yang Hui He is a mathematical physicist, who is a Fellow at the London Institute as well as lecturer and former Fellow at Merton College, Oxford. Yang works on the interface between quantum field theory, string theory, algebraic geometry and number theory, as well as how AI and machine-learning help with these problems.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:52 Who is Roger Penrose?
02:31 Who is Yang-Hui He?
03:10 The Beginning of Penrose's Career
07:48 Intelligence and Age
10:13 Penrose's motivation to keep working
15:40 Artificial Intelligence
28:05 Consciousness in Animals
32:18 Consciousness from Mathematics
40:34 Spending 1 Trillion Dollars
48:56 Threats for humanity
01:00:22 Democracy
01:02:12 Meaning of life
01:04:46 The problem Penrose is working on now
01:33:07 Death
01:34:12 Last Words
Roger is my hero. What a guy !
Thank you for putting all the references, diagrams and photos with respect to the talk.❤❤❤. Loved the podcast
This is the BEST Roger Penrose interview I have ever watched. Thank you and congratulations!
I really appreciate Rogers cosmology perspective. Never seen him so relaxed in a podcast conversation before this one. Thanks for getting into the stuff we didn't know about Rogers previous interests!
I don't look up to many people, but Sir Roger Penrose is one of them, along with Bach.
Roger Penrose is a f. legend for any of us interested in physics and reality.
What a great conversation
👍 Thanks for teaching us!
Roger Penrose' last words "I'm sorry for all the mess I've done". Yang's last words, "Give me another 50 years to think about this question."
Message for Roger Penrose.
How can distance or temperature be measured in the situation where there are no photons ? - or they are so far apart that there is not possibility of contact between them ?
Does this fix your scaling issue?
I wonder if Sir Penrose would smack me if I introduced him as a philosopher.. he fits the definition if he doesn't claim The title lol
For you pop!
Pop indeed to acknowledge!
Stephen J. Crothers, Nuclear reactions in gaseous stars: Perspectives from kinetic theory and thermodynamics, Physics Essays, Volume 37: Pages 159-164, 2024.
ABSTRACT: In the Standard Model of gaseous stars, temperature is primary both in the initiation of thermonuclear reactions to form heavier elements and the emission of radiation. These processes have been described using thermodynamic expressions. However, within any given thermodynamic relation, not only must units balance on each side, but so must thermodynamic character. Temperature, whether or not equilibrium conditions are established, must always be intensive in macroscopic thermodynamics, and mass must be extensive. This ensures that the laws of thermodynamics are respected. The theory of temperatures and nuclear reactions within gaseous stars is constructed from the kinetic theory of an ideal gas, by which temperature is introduced, in combination with gravitational and Coulomb forces. The resulting thermodynamic relations impart a nonintensive character to temperature and a nonextensive character to mass. Consequently, the theory of nuclear reactions in gaseous stars is invalid. Deprived of the only theoretical means by which the Standard Model justifies stellar nuclear reactions, the theory of gaseous stars is not viable. The most reasonable alternative rests in lattice confinement fusion and the recognition that the stars are comprised of condensed matter, namely metallic hydrogen.
physicsessays.org/browse-journal-2/product/2073-10-stephen-j-crothers-nuclear-reactions-in-gaseous.html
Pop it's such a privilege to have sincere conversations! While knowing Time knows its RIGHTFUL PLACE in front! Nevertheless...
Robots to compete would require knowledge of all a human is: causal; energy; forces; plus the elemental or physical. Little of all levels is known today by humans who are still stuck with a view that is limited to the elemental; the physicality of Darwinism. Other dimensions: energy and causal levels that exist, and are endemic to the human, are for the great minds of the future to uncover, not to mention consciousness itself. We are still in the material age and the elemental or physical is the limit of comprehension for most people.
Sir Roger is a gift to humanity.
Yang Hui He said Mathematicians are globally pessimistic but locally optimistic? He mentioned 'Manifold theory' 57 minutes in..
Greens say think globally act locally.
Wow.
Remembering ye once born! Walking, yes if it takes to carry thee! 1 FOOTPRINT
What is increase? Increase knows belongs? Enough as intended!
Pop will say, what is 80-100 years if luckily can live that long? Keep watch!
good content, bad audio. hard to listen to.
Day n+1 of trying to fix the modern interpretation of Penrose diagrams 😂
Let’s say 2 zero dimensional points were separated by time, yet still both existed simultaneously. If 1 second was like 1 second to one of those zero dimensional points, but 1 week was like 1 second to the other, it would make sense why the two are separated by time yet still exist simultaneously.
1 millionth of a second is to fast for us to experience or remember, so I guess it’s fair to say that in that time interval we don’t have a sense of being. The problem is that our sense of being is joined together by time intervals that are too fast for us to experience, so how is it that we have a sense of being at all.
If 100 years went by while we never had a sense of being, that 100 years to us would seem like a flash because we wouldn’t have any memory of not having a sense of being.
Let’s say we never had a sense of being forever. Would that infinitely long period of time be like a flash to us. Well if an infinitely long period of time existed it would be impossible to measure a finite period of time against it.
I think the only way our sense of being can not exist, is if instead of 1 second feeling like one second, and 1 hour or 1 month felt like a second, our sense of being would not exist to someone who 1 second was like 1 second to. So if 1 week felt like 1 second to us, but 1 second felt like 1 second to the person standing next to us, according to that person standing next to us our sense of being does not exist.
So if 1 week is like 1 second to us, would that mathematically be the same as our sense of being not existing for ever, ever and ever.
To us, a hurricane, wave, or falling line of dominos doesn’t have a sense of being, but from what has been discussed is that really true.
Pop asked my Heirs Hosts shared "i" AM in China? To interpret 12-29-1976.
Why does it take a genius with a PhD to really have a good grasp of science, but it doesn't take an Intelligent Designer to create a universe based on science?
The questions could have been more interesting and more precise
Pop will say, remember the Question?
Pop indeed to acknowledge! Now acknowledge come here in front!
Beloved who among can keep up with my pop? Meaning can't complain. Till thy feet be as my pop Age!
Question will say, remember thy shared "i" AM!
Remember if shared Feet will not perform! Creation itself will perform in front of WHO?
Consciousness is a concept of the mind just like infinity they do not exist in the material world replace the word consciousness with the word awareness and the delusion ends
Unseen come here in front! Yes, beloved
Pop introducing unfamiliar ways of speaking unto many but yet is clear as water unto Whom BELONGS?
Consciousness can't be an algorithm. This would make computers 'conscious'. If consciousness is several algorithms acting at once in an interactive and parallel situation-maybe quintillions of parallel algorithms. Is there anything a human can do that an algorithm can't do?
Anyones human identity, whatsoever does not actually exist.we the infinite play all roles within the dreamstate.all of humanity is dreamt up
Consciousness is Eternal,
'artificial intelligence', is Impossible.
Many will say ye ALL must be drunk! Keep watch!
Nor why even complications came in front of the little Child born "i" AM?
Meaning pop feet strongest feet in FRONT. Till thy feet reach my pop age! What ye expect from a little child "i"? But to recognize my pop shared "AM"! My pop knows? Without the little child born "i"! YES pop love you too Without shame but with boldness! Shared "i" AM, came with sincere conversations, and thy shared Feet. Pop may "i" washed thy FEET! Pop can the True Owner can even washed feet? Why? Pop will say, REMEMBER ALL THY FEET was desired. Now why desired feet without a Permanent Foundation Noone can uproot nor shaken but here to stay for good. Yes not bound nor ever will be! Remember even bounding knows can't exist in front! Without to require to come forth! Yes, knows WHO? Meaning all HIS SHARED "i" AM. Pop yes, all in front! What is a world view? I'm just a DRONE out of many bee's! Keep watch!
AI & concordant, AI & sentience. Don't need any of that!. ASI will do mimickry so well, the most intelligent human can't tell the difference. So there, real or not, do not matter, it is and if Can do those things matters. High raw intelligence encompasses all aspects of human nature and possibly spans dimensional aspects as well. Ie. New cutting edge stuff we cannot comprehend due to our biological limitations.
A trillion is only a thousand billion. Only $250 per person
In US maybe. In Europe it would be more like 250 000 000 😂
@@wojciechbem8661 1 trillion/(8 billion people globally) is $125/per person. My math was wrong 😞.
bro it was so rude to talk about someone's age that way. Dont do that.
Cultural difference, maybe? I also was quite taken aback by those questions, but I liked that Yang Hui was there to soften things up and make them more appropriate.
@@vitaly2432 Yes, maybe. I found it very rude and uncomfortable to watch.
A little Child will say what is complications?
Do ye exist in front? No LORD! Why?
If humans design desire into AI then it will have wants. The reason why AI at present doesn’t seem human, is because it doesn’t have a designed reward system. Why does Roger think humans won’t eventually engineer this within AI?
Terrible host, Terrible Questions. You could've let Prof.Yang ask the questions. Can't believe you wasted an hour and a half of Sir Roger precious time on such low quality/mediocre questions.
Roger is making it complicated. A being/object is conscious if it feels itself, responds to its surroundings, has memory, reasons and is capable of inference. All these are satisfied by AI. Even a coke machine has consciousness at a lower level. Consciousness has degrees and having sensors is a necessary part.
Stop making too big a deal of consciousness. After all doctors can turn it off by giving you a shot! 😂😂
So ironic not to understand what understanding is, or more precisely what it's not. Religious people actually have a more reasonable take on it. I'm highly skeptical of a supernatural origin of this superpower we have called consciousness, but one thing I'm certain is that a coke machine doesn't have it.
Pop indeed to acknowledge!