Zero Breeze does have a power "extension dock" that will let you charge and run the unit simultaneously. That and a 12V to 24V converter is what we have set up in our trailer. It works pretty well. It's really good to see more competition in this product segment!
That was a vital piece of information for me , since I run a 200ah lithium battery with no inverters , let alone the power loss when running an inverter all night since I don't wanna buy the battery that comes with the unit , it's pretty much useless for my setup , thanks 🙏🏻
I live in south Texas in my rooftop tent. At the moment it’s a $300 costway that has done the job this summer! Thanks for the info on these two as a future upgrade.
Love my ecoflow wave 2.... same money, way more powerful, and i can use it in all of our set ups (ground tent, 6x10 squaredrop, even our toy hauler when we're off grid). It is bulky/ heavy though.
Great video, love seeing other competitors that are not the mainstream brands. I also appreciate you pointing out the fact that the batteries cannot be charged while being used, I will save my money and only buy the unit since I have 280 ah battery system in my truck.
It's also true that the power consumption of the Ecoflow is much more, and this CAN be a make or break thing, depending on your battery system. Another thing you didn't note is that the Zero Breeze units drawing it's intake air from the front allows you to poke the nose into the space you're cooling, and recirc the already cooled air back through the coils again. The Ice Cove unit's drawing from the side means you would need to have the whole unit inside with you to utilize and recirc the return air, and the intake to the condenser coil side would be blowing the already cooled air straight back outside...This would make a big difference in the comfort level in the space, as the pre dehumidified and cooled air would not only get even cooler on the Zero Breeze, but the energy used doing it would be significantly less as well. The air stream filters would last a lot longer on the Zero Breeze system when used this way as well since you wouldn't be sucking dust from outdoors in.
Hoping more of these get released to the point they start competing on price. Nice to see another option, but if it doesn't materially cost less than other options, I'd be likely to go with the proven brand. Given the price of small home AC units, I think there's a lot of potential for downward pressure on prices. I realize the lithium batteries add a lot to the cost, but I think most people buying one of these are likely to already have a power station. Manufacturers would do well to make units more compatible with people's existing power solutions rather than adding dedicated batteries and driving the price up in the 4-figure range. Once a solid option exists in the $4-500 range I think you'll start to see a lot more widespread adoption
Nice video thank you! One thing I would say though is that the IceCove may be designed to be placed inside so it is pulling the hot air from the tent and blowing it out. May work better that way. Same reason the Zero Breeze has the hose for intake to pull from the tent?
Thank you for the review of both of those. I want to get some kind of air-conditioner for my 5 X 10 Hiker Trailer. I'm on the West Coast and its a dry, really hot heat. I have a Yeti 1000X, 100 watt solar panel, wiring and a switch for a battery. I'm researching Battle Born Batteries for the air conditioner. I'm trying to calculate how long an air conditioner will run on the 100 amp lithium and I need to figure out how to charge and store the battery.
I think zero breeze would be more efficient if you use it right, using the system inside, set up the exhaust and intake for the condenser side out the window that would use outdoor air to exhaust hot condenser temps outdoors, if you use the system outside you would have to run the evap exhaust pipe inside the tent and the return air for the evap inside as well that’s the most efficient way to use these battery will last long hvac tech here
So if the air intake on the side and the cooling port is one loop, the ice whatever must be bringing in cold air and exhausting hot through the same tube, the way the stand up window air conditioners do. Hard to see how they can keep the two streams separated doing this in the same tube without mixing. I understood the purpose of the two tubes on the outside loop for the Zero Breeze were to separate the cold intake in the hot out.
My question is, wouldn't they work better being inside the tent with an exhaust hose run outside? I'd think pushing the hot air out while pumping the cold air in would be most effective. I'd love to see a test of cooling times and temps with that setup vs what you did. Great video! I live in TX and NEED a solution for a Patriot Camper X1 with a 6 person configuration (extra kids tent added on).
Just curious how the Icecove removes humidity inside the tent when the units return air is outside on the air conditioner? My ZeroBreeze has 2 hoses on the front one for return air and one to supply the cold air. I usually set mine outside too. I like the bigger battery on the Icecove. I'm waiting on specs for the new ZeroBreeze Mark 3 supposedly a couple pounds more then the Mark 2 but 5200 BTU.
@@OzarkOverlandAdventures just curious typically the return air is inside the room recirculating the air to remove humidity. I’d be interested in see the Govee temp/humidity sensor inside the tent with the air conditioner outside.
If I had more room to haul stuff... maybe someday there'll be something smaller. Meantime, I'm in the Northwest, so just have to be careful in July and August because my dog is a northern breed. We do short runs to the coast when its hot inland. I'm always interested in what's new, thank you.
Heat exchanger performance is highly dependent on the surface area of the exchangers. These are just about as small a footprint as I can imagine a 2500BTU cooler to be able to have.
Although the EcoFlow Wave 2 may be bigger & heavier, it outputs 5100 BTU’s of a/c and 6100 BTU’s of heat, is priced at $1299 without a battery, and is on sale with a 700Whr battery for $1499 right now.
@@CraigG21 I bought a Wave 2 late in the season, and haven't used it while camping, but did do a test run in the driveway. I added a Y fitting to the a/c hose, reduced down to two 3" hoses, and will be cooling our 5x9 Hiker trailer and the rtt mounted on top.
Matt, I've been considering this for our RTT in the summer. Been tough to get till now and now its basically $1500 including a battery on Amazon. Zero Breeze seems cumbersome and awkward to me. Question is now its been a year. How has the Ice cove performed and what should I do to be sure it runs 8 hrs. Just got the Bluetti Charger 1, that may be able to charge it faster. Want to pull the trigger, but want your 1 year review first. Thanks for the great videos as all of them are
Great video. Could I use the Sunday with a Bluetti Power Station. I would like to have 6-8 hours of use without having to have two separate batteries. Thank you.
Hmmm. Mine is the Ozark Overland Edition rack. Here is the video on it… Gladiator Build Update - New Rack and Tent ruclips.net/video/BXdrLm4TV1s/видео.html
I like to review on both machines, I would prefer the ice Cove, one thing that I noticed when you were reviewing it and you had it sitting outside, was that it had condensation all over it so I’m assuming it is well insulated from the elements when you have it outside?
Beware of two things I find deceptive in the advertising of this AC unit: • NOT LIFEPO4 BATTERIES Although the Sunjoy page advertising the Icecove claims repeatedly that its batteries are "Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries" which are much preferred and rated at 3000+ charging cycles, THEY ARE NOT. The actual specs table at the bottom states: "Battery Type: "Lithium-ion polymer batteries" which only recharge 1000 times and are subject to thermal runaways. • NOT WEATHER PROOF Photos and videos showing this unit outdoors pumping AC into tents and campers are deceptive. I contacted Sunjoy and confirmed that the unit is not weather proof. It can't be used this way if it is raining. My question and answer did not appear on the page.
@@orangeblurr75 you are correct to question that. Recirculating the air will always be more efficient and result in cooler/dryer air. Everyone likes what they like.
Long term use which one feels like it’s going to last the longest when I buy stuff I want it to last this stuff is expensive to me and have to Johnny Cash this stuff one piece at a time lol
Yeah right , let them come camp in the middle eastren deserts , we'll see how miserable they wanna be 😂 Those things are life savers man , we literally lose 3 months out of a year in some areas because we simply can't tolerate the temperatures
just one thing if you didnt know the zero breeze is 1000000% better. why? bicus of dual hose desighn. Why? dual hose is 250% more eficent when coling and 50% quieter.
This is the most disappointing product I ever purchased. Very limited cooling, fan doesn't blow very much and can hardly cool a small car. This is not an honest review and is clearly is paid advertisement. Will be returning it
Definetly matters when you want the ac outside though. These units will generate heat as they work. It will waste your space as well as make you run a drain hose outside...now you will have to elevate the ac so the water will actually go outside..maybe camp on a hill...the hose will also need to exit at the lowest point of the tent...I guess you cut a hole in the tent
@@OzarkOverlandAdventures Please let me be clear here, I am a long term subscriber and have given you and your videos nothing but thumbs up on every video watched. However, this video came off very poorly to me and seemed like a really bad advertisement! Please forgive my honesty. It's just honest feed back. Truth be told, I really appreciate your channel and everything that you share. Thanks for sharing.... 😁👍
@@danielstover3029 I appreciate the compliments but if you’re going to tell me it comes off poorly and like an advertisement then at least give me useful information on why. I thought I did a good job being objective and actual usage of the product.
@@OzarkOverlandAdventures OK, if we have to go the distance here, it seemed like a sponsored advertisement. Maybe I missed the disclaimers that there was no partiality or sponsorship. However, it came off that you were a paid spokes person. Again, just trying to provide you with feedback and the concept honest transparency! It simply seemed to me like a paid poorly executed advertisement. Sorry to have had to go the distance on this one. Best to you.... Appreciate your channel! 😁👍
Zero Breeze does have a power "extension dock" that will let you charge and run the unit simultaneously. That and a 12V to 24V converter is what we have set up in our trailer. It works pretty well. It's really good to see more competition in this product segment!
That was a vital piece of information for me , since I run a 200ah lithium battery with no inverters , let alone the power loss when running an inverter all night since I don't wanna buy the battery that comes with the unit , it's pretty much useless for my setup , thanks 🙏🏻
I'm guessing the power loss on a 12-24v inverter/converter is much better than a 110/220v inverter , no ?
One of these is definitely on my Christmas list to let me enjoy more fishing adventures in Texas! Thank you Matt!!!
I live in south Texas in my rooftop tent. At the moment it’s a $300 costway that has done the job this summer! Thanks for the info on these two as a future upgrade.
those things a frickin cool man! cool review, keep up the grind! Much love from LR
Matt seriously you are amazing and thank you for your knowledge!!
Thanks so much!!
Love my ecoflow wave 2.... same money, way more powerful, and i can use it in all of our set ups (ground tent, 6x10 squaredrop, even our toy hauler when we're off grid).
It is bulky/ heavy though.
Great video, love seeing other competitors that are not the mainstream brands. I also appreciate you pointing out the fact that the batteries cannot be charged while being used, I will save my money and only buy the unit since I have 280 ah battery system in my truck.
It's also true that the power consumption of the Ecoflow is much more, and this CAN be a make or break thing, depending on your battery system. Another thing you didn't note is that the Zero Breeze units drawing it's intake air from the front allows you to poke the nose into the space you're cooling, and recirc the already cooled air back through the coils again. The Ice Cove unit's drawing from the side means you would need to have the whole unit inside with you to utilize and recirc the return air, and the intake to the condenser coil side would be blowing the already cooled air straight back outside...This would make a big difference in the comfort level in the space, as the pre dehumidified and cooled air would not only get even cooler on the Zero Breeze, but the energy used doing it would be significantly less as well. The air stream filters would last a lot longer on the Zero Breeze system when used this way as well since you wouldn't be sucking dust from outdoors in.
Try testing with units inside tent ⛺️ and vent out, ice cove should win recirculating cooler air? Thanks!
Hoping more of these get released to the point they start competing on price. Nice to see another option, but if it doesn't materially cost less than other options, I'd be likely to go with the proven brand. Given the price of small home AC units, I think there's a lot of potential for downward pressure on prices. I realize the lithium batteries add a lot to the cost, but I think most people buying one of these are likely to already have a power station. Manufacturers would do well to make units more compatible with people's existing power solutions rather than adding dedicated batteries and driving the price up in the 4-figure range. Once a solid option exists in the $4-500 range I think you'll start to see a lot more widespread adoption
Hi Matt, Two very nice products. Thank you for sharing !😊🚙
Nice video thank you! One thing I would say though is that the IceCove may be designed to be placed inside so it is pulling the hot air from the tent and blowing it out. May work better that way. Same reason the Zero Breeze has the hose for intake to pull from the tent?
Western Oklahoma hits mid-90s in April; highs in that range up to late October. If you need A/C at home you need it camping.
Thank you for the review of both of those. I want to get some kind of air-conditioner for my 5 X 10 Hiker Trailer. I'm on the West Coast and its a dry, really hot heat. I have a Yeti 1000X, 100 watt solar panel, wiring and a switch for a battery. I'm researching Battle Born Batteries for the air conditioner. I'm trying to calculate how long an air conditioner will run on the 100 amp lithium and I need to figure out how to charge and store the battery.
I think zero breeze would be more efficient if you use it right, using the system inside, set up the exhaust and intake for the condenser side out the window that would use outdoor air to exhaust hot condenser temps outdoors, if you use the system outside you would have to run the evap exhaust pipe inside the tent and the return air for the evap inside as well that’s the most efficient way to use these battery will last long hvac tech here
I thought this was outstanding review period I was just curious and what the difference and how much power they drew at the lower setting? Any ideas?
So if the air intake on the side and the cooling port is one loop, the ice whatever must be bringing in cold air and exhausting hot through the same tube, the way the stand up window air conditioners do.
Hard to see how they can keep the two streams separated doing this in the same tube without mixing.
I understood the purpose of the two tubes on the outside loop for the Zero Breeze were to separate the cold intake in the hot out.
Wrong, the icecove intake is the sides oh the machine and the rear is exhaust only.
i guess if you had two power bricks you could use one for charging and one for running the unit assuming you had enough power for both
Thanks for the info. That's another 1500 dollars I need to spend 😂😂😂
My question is, wouldn't they work better being inside the tent with an exhaust hose run outside? I'd think pushing the hot air out while pumping the cold air in would be most effective. I'd love to see a test of cooling times and temps with that setup vs what you did.
Great video! I live in TX and NEED a solution for a Patriot Camper X1 with a 6 person configuration (extra kids tent added on).
Just curious how the Icecove removes humidity inside the tent when the units return air is outside on the air conditioner? My ZeroBreeze has 2 hoses on the front one for return air and one to supply the cold air. I usually set mine outside too. I like the bigger battery on the Icecove. I'm waiting on specs for the new ZeroBreeze Mark 3 supposedly a couple pounds more then the Mark 2 but 5200 BTU.
The air the AC is pumping into the tent is cold dry air. Hense no humidity.
@@OzarkOverlandAdventures just curious typically the return air is inside the room recirculating the air to remove humidity. I’d be interested in see the Govee temp/humidity sensor inside the tent with the air conditioner outside.
If I had more room to haul stuff... maybe someday there'll be something smaller. Meantime, I'm in the Northwest, so just have to be careful in July and August because my dog is a northern breed. We do short runs to the coast when its hot inland. I'm always interested in what's new, thank you.
Heat exchanger performance is highly dependent on the surface area of the exchangers. These are just about as small a footprint as I can imagine a 2500BTU cooler to be able to have.
Although the EcoFlow Wave 2 may be bigger & heavier, it outputs 5100 BTU’s of a/c and 6100 BTU’s of heat, is priced at $1299 without a battery, and is on sale with a 700Whr battery for $1499 right now.
That's a great price with the battery. But it's so big and overkill to cool an RTT. Would be good for a large ground tent.
@@OzarkOverlandAdventures it works great for my 3 row SUV; expect the same for our new 5x10 teardrop trailer that is coming before years end!
@@CraigG21 I bought a Wave 2 late in the season, and haven't used it while camping, but did do a test run in the driveway. I added a Y fitting to the a/c hose, reduced down to two 3" hoses, and will be cooling our 5x9 Hiker trailer and the rtt mounted on top.
Matt, I've been considering this for our RTT in the summer. Been tough to get till now and now its basically $1500 including a battery on Amazon. Zero Breeze seems cumbersome and awkward to me. Question is now its been a year. How has the Ice cove performed and what should I do to be sure it runs 8 hrs. Just got the Bluetti Charger 1, that may be able to charge it faster. Want to pull the trigger, but want your 1 year review first.
Thanks for the great videos as all of them are
Great video. Could I use the Sunday with a Bluetti Power Station. I would like to have 6-8 hours of use without having to have two separate batteries. Thank you.
Yes you can!
What size BLUETTI are u using? How’d it work for u
hey the link to your xtrusion overland rack doesn't work, what style rack is it? it looks so good!
Hmmm. Mine is the Ozark Overland Edition rack. Here is the video on it…
Gladiator Build Update - New Rack and Tent
ruclips.net/video/BXdrLm4TV1s/видео.html
@@OzarkOverlandAdventures Thanks hun, just purchased a gladaitor (picking it up tomorrow) same hydro blue as yours. This is all your fault!!!
I've spent enough time in a foxhole behind an M-60, sweating my butt off, I'll take the A/C thank you.
very helpful thanks
Some sellers offer a 5 yr protection plan for unit failure on the Icecove for $200. Think it's worth it?
Great review. Thanks!
I like to review on both machines, I would prefer the ice Cove, one thing that I noticed when you were reviewing it and you had it sitting outside, was that it had condensation all over it so I’m assuming it is well insulated from the elements when you have it outside?
Will this work for cooling a single cab truck without ac?
I don’t see why not
Do you know what the start up wattage is for the Ice Cove?
Beware of two things I find deceptive in the advertising of this AC unit:
• NOT LIFEPO4 BATTERIES
Although the Sunjoy page advertising the Icecove claims repeatedly that its batteries are "Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries" which are much preferred and rated at 3000+ charging cycles, THEY ARE NOT. The actual specs table at the bottom states: "Battery Type: "Lithium-ion polymer batteries" which only recharge 1000 times and are subject to thermal runaways.
• NOT WEATHER PROOF
Photos and videos showing this unit outdoors pumping AC into tents and campers are deceptive. I contacted Sunjoy and confirmed that the unit is not weather proof. It can't be used this way if it is raining. My question and answer did not appear on the page.
Thanks 🙏
Can any of these units be running in the vehicle while getting out to your favorite camp spot?
How does it pull the humidity out well without having the return like the zero breeze
it's pulling the humidity out of the air before it pumps it into the tent giving you cool dry air.
@@orangeblurr75 you are correct to question that. Recirculating the air will always be more efficient and result in cooler/dryer air. Everyone likes what they like.
Good video Matt
Thanks!
Is the Icecove weather proof if you leave it outside? I noticed dew on it during your camping trip.
I haven't seen that advertised anywhere so I'm certain what it can withstand. I'll probably find out though. lol
@@OzarkOverlandAdventures Yes would love to know if you can leave it on a boat deck in the rain?
Is your 10% discount code good off Icecove $1298 current price?
So how much is this ice cove and can I get it through Amazon?
Actually if I’m going to spend in this range I think the best choice is the 5100 btu EcoFlow Wave 2 which is also a heater. 🤷♂️
TWO HOSES AT THE LEAST NECESSARY FOR DIVERSE APPLICATIONS. A THIRD FOR FRESH AIR WOULD BE IDEAL IF YOU'RE PLACING THE UNIT INSIDE.
can the ice cove be run on a marine deep cycle battery?
yes
@@OzarkOverlandAdventures could you do a short video showing how to power this off a marine deep cycle battery?
Can this unit cool a room size 10x14?
Why was your Ice Cove wet in the morning? Was that from operation or morning dew?
Cuz it was stupid humid there and morning dew.
So, should be fine in the tent. I will be camping in the Ozarks in July, so, looking for a portable AC for my RTT for the family.
can can ypu charge the icecove while running? pass thru....looking to cool a small Sunrader rv. thank you. go hogs!
No you cannot.
Long term use which one feels like it’s going to last the longest when I buy stuff I want it to last this stuff is expensive to me and have to Johnny Cash this stuff one piece at a time lol
Well the IceCove is new so there's no way to know long term use but it feels as solid as the Zero Breeze.
How do you charge the ice cove battery?
I plug it in to my inverter or you can charge with 12volt
@@OzarkOverlandAdventures does the battery come with an ac charger?
Can the battery be charged without the AC unit?
yes
Hey dude you posted the wrong web site for that ice cove
Worked fine for me just now?
Heck, I just want one for my Big Block Corvette...NO A/C!
Will the unit work with a Jackery 2000 power station powering it? Thank you for the video!
Oh matt dont tell me this i just bought the zero breeze and it cost a lot man
It’s still a good option.
Yeah right , let them come camp in the middle eastren deserts , we'll see how miserable they wanna be 😂
Those things are life savers man , we literally lose 3 months out of a year in some areas because we simply can't tolerate the temperatures
just one thing if you didnt know the zero breeze is 1000000% better. why? bicus of dual hose desighn. Why? dual hose is 250% more eficent when coling and 50% quieter.
You made every one of those numbers up. 😂😂😂😂😂🤦🏼♂️
Doesn’t really say what solar can be used in place of battery. Says DC but doesn’t say.
I was wondering about this as well.
Sunjoy sells a solar panel that works with the IceCove. Full details and specs are on their website.
I think this guy likes jeeps
Ya think? 😂
❤
These are pretty useless at any temps over 90 degrees
its a marriage saving device.
This is the most disappointing product I ever purchased. Very limited cooling, fan doesn't blow very much and can hardly cool a small car. This is not an honest review and is clearly is paid advertisement. Will be returning it
You can accuse me of being dishonest all you want to but I've been using this on multiple trips and it works great in our roof top tents.
Somewhat biased review. I prefer the zero breeze unit placed inside where the cold air ouput can be recirculated for more efficiency.
How was it biased? Both can be placed inside to recirculate the cold air.
Definetly matters when you want the ac outside though. These units will generate heat as they work. It will waste your space as well as make you run a drain hose outside...now you will have to elevate the ac so the water will actually go outside..maybe camp on a hill...the hose will also need to exit at the lowest point of the tent...I guess you cut a hole in the tent
They're all worthless as none of them will cool an anetire room as claimed
Very disappointed in this video. Did you do it for the money?
Not gonna say what disappointed you?
@@OzarkOverlandAdventures Please let me be clear here, I am a long term subscriber and have given you and your videos nothing but thumbs up on every video watched. However, this video came off very poorly to me and seemed like a really bad advertisement! Please forgive my honesty. It's just honest feed back. Truth be told, I really appreciate your channel and everything that you share. Thanks for sharing.... 😁👍
@@danielstover3029 I appreciate the compliments but if you’re going to tell me it comes off poorly and like an advertisement then at least give me useful information on why. I thought I did a good job being objective and actual usage of the product.
@@OzarkOverlandAdventures OK, if we have to go the distance here, it seemed like a sponsored advertisement. Maybe I missed the disclaimers that there was no partiality or sponsorship. However, it came off that you were a paid spokes person. Again, just trying to provide you with feedback and the concept honest transparency! It simply seemed to me like a paid poorly executed advertisement. Sorry to have had to go the distance on this one. Best to you.... Appreciate your channel! 😁👍
@@danielstover3029 fair enough
Hi Matt, Two very nice products! Thank you for sharing!😊🚙
hey the link to your xtrusion overland rack doesn't work, what style rack is it? it looks so good!