@@szymonpachta9159 honestly, why even play wow? imagine getting geared then raid logging. like, the whole point of it was to use the gear to kill alliance/horde. imagine being a pve toolbag
@@darrenshirey7082 perma stunned by hard ccs and miccro cc's and people w'keying 123 and u can never move or cast sure is a good time. oh the abundance of non-kickable instant cast spells every caster has is a good time for sure. kappa. oh lets not forget all the mobility every class has running at u like usain bolt on cocaine. oh wait sof un
yea game play wise for sure and classic sucks just to do any type of end game content, I'm already so jaded of the gate keeping and instance lock outs in classic, so obsolete.
@@marhin7520 i believe is due to raid lock out instead of loot lock out. Loot lock out is way less risky trying it with random groups as suppose to needing logs to ensure you get your clear for the week in classic. Retail when a group goes south side you just leave and try again with a different group, I can climb and get gear without needing to do ton of boring farming and grinding to get pre bis and still struggle to get into a group. its mad annoying when there is so little endgame in classic and people treat it like a NASA space mission. AND classic gameplay aint even good
I didn"t notice the final match was gear difference up until they mentioned it. I've experienced some eras of arena where that was just how it was lol I remember WoD incarn feral was pretty much like that. I still have nightmares about WoD FLS.
After shadowlands I thought I’d never touch retail again, my friends got me to try dragonflight s2 and it amazed me how much better they’ve made retail been playing both sod and retail recently and been having a lot of fun
Savix, what do you think, do healers belong in battlegrounds? As it's a fun non-competitive mode... Like, who needs them? They turn the game into annoying waste of time?
Ya the classes have been through much more rigorous balance play testing than SoD. SoD won't last long enough to get there. Everything was slapped together without much testing or planning.
@@DB-ku7vu Until the nature of such an experiment led to unfun / bad design choices. examples would be -super bursty one shot pvp with worse class balance than classic (no longer rock paper scissors/ several dominating classes) -no balance on raid dps classes (this was the main thing people were asking for with classic + LOL) -replacing the classic itemization with inflated gear ilvls from raids at every bracket leaving dungeons and quest gears irrelevant for the most part although not entirely. -Instead of revitalizing the dungeons and having a multitude of them to run per phase you make us run one raid every phase. -excursions (run in circle for 4 hours to max level) is objectively worse than adding more quests to do and letting people explore the world discovering them and leveling over a week not 4 HOURS. -constant exp and gold boosts on content thats already gated. people had plenty of time to level already and classic leveling is THE game. -Gating leveling into phases ruins the feel of progression at your own pace. You progress only as fast as they release the phases. Fun is relative to what you enjoy but myself and a lot of others found these design decisions to be offputting and unfun. If your having fun then im happy for you but at this point id rather play retail than SoD.
Ngl it looks kinda good even tho I lost trust in retail since bfa but this thing somehow reminds me legion. Perhaps give it 1 more try or delay this try to the war within.
@@akundelar7452 As a fury warrior, I bring the pain. Its a moral victory over healers when all I do is zug them. I might not kill them, but I've sure wasted their time. And mine. Wait this isn't the win I thought it was.
Not editing all that sexual tension was the right call 🎉
I really need pilav back, that ret & warri combo was out of this world
What happened to pilav?
@@sabahftw overdosed on steroids
He realised working in Aldi was better money than twitch @saltyjohntv
@@sabahftw he went to jail bc he killed a dog and bited himself with his clean skull for some goverment money
@@The_Unexplainer Wasn't he just banned from twitch lol?
OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE HE QUIT SOD
Well what else we can do in sod, inc fcked up economy, waiting for phase 4 :)
Hahahaha
not playing SoD only = dead game, quit sod. I swear SoD brain is pure autism
@@szymonpachta9159 honestly, why even play wow? imagine getting geared then raid logging. like, the whole point of it was to use the gear to kill alliance/horde. imagine being a pve toolbag
@@victorrobertson3782 what? wonder some ppl have fun just from raiding and parsing and thats not ur buisness
It's good to see you on retail.
Bean always gets me BRICKED up. I love that guy.
Seriously,DF was amazing expansion in terms of systems and gameplay.TWW will be insane with accound wide stuff,delves etc
Retail sisters…we are so back
ICANT 😂👌
retail best
Honestly. Retail random bgs are so much fun. Been enjoying them for years and only content in WoW i never get tired of
It really isn’t though
@@robs6404 acording tooooo who? you ? cusss im pretty sure its his opinion
@@robs6404Classic Andy detected boys
@@darrenshirey7082 perma stunned by hard ccs and miccro cc's and people w'keying 123 and u can never move or cast sure is a good time. oh the abundance of non-kickable instant cast spells every caster has is a good time for sure. kappa. oh lets not forget all the mobility every class has running at u like usain bolt on cocaine. oh wait sof un
I miss so much your retail content and guides... Inspiring stuff... ❤
always fun to watch some Retail content
I swear the way you talk with bean is like i talk with my close friends i love these type of humor 😂😂🤙🏽
only Bean wakes up and instantly orders Chipotle
Is this Pilav foreshadowing ?
11:48 Yeah, Auras are irritating. Asmon caused the damn un-pruning and button bloat because he wanted classic on Retail.
Retails feels better than classic.
yea game play wise for sure and classic sucks just to do any type of end game content, I'm already so jaded of the gate keeping and instance lock outs in classic, so obsolete.
@@jesseperez4185 ofc there is gatekeeping with the average classic player having an iq of 27
@@marhin7520 i believe is due to raid lock out instead of loot lock out. Loot lock out is way less risky trying it with random groups as suppose to needing logs to ensure you get your clear for the week in classic. Retail when a group goes south side you just leave and try again with a different group, I can climb and get gear without needing to do ton of boring farming and grinding to get pre bis and still struggle to get into a group. its mad annoying when there is so little endgame in classic and people treat it like a NASA space mission. AND classic gameplay aint even good
THIS AIN'T SEAL TWISTING! Now I scream "reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
Lock it in amigo 🔒I remember when Savix used to play SOD... 😆
LMAOO
I didn"t notice the final match was gear difference up until they mentioned it. I've experienced some eras of arena where that was just how it was lol I remember WoD incarn feral was pretty much like that. I still have nightmares about WoD FLS.
After shadowlands I thought I’d never touch retail again, my friends got me to try dragonflight s2 and it amazed me how much better they’ve made retail been playing both sod and retail recently and been having a lot of fun
Basically same happened to me, but DF s2 and Dragonflight as a whole got me back into the game after playing barely at all during BfA and SL
As a warrior pvper would take shadownlands s1 and 2 any day
@@Undertaker257 yeahh i dont pvp i really dont like wow pvp
I wish I could play classic, but I love my void elves (and transmog) way too much to give them up
Preach.
this gives me hope for future anboni and savix 2v2 video
We miss Pilav 😢❤ 3:20
Are you playing without damage numbers?
he probably played with classic fct before, but didnt update it
Plunderstorm for some reason removed it
Why on earth do you need dmg numbers 😆
Does anyone know the addon he's using for his enemy plates?
WE ARE SO BACK
I’m so happy you’re playing retail again! I missed this! Ppc
Damned I didn't play retail since Dragonflight first phase and you made me want to give it a shot.. I'm lvling a pally on Cata I can't keep up !
Gentlemen im waiting for a DF season 4 savix montage like the old days
13:28 Why are you surprised by insta-queue? Happens all the time.
Bro the guy growling has me fuckin crying it’s so funny 😂😂😂
Not sure if anyone has said it yet, but you can loh in arena now.
Savix, what do you think, do healers belong in battlegrounds? As it's a fun non-competitive mode... Like, who needs them? They turn the game into annoying waste of time?
PvP in retail feels 100 times better
Ya the classes have been through much more rigorous balance play testing than SoD. SoD won't last long enough to get there. Everything was slapped together without much testing or planning.
@@kuyt3400 IMO the lack of balance and experimental nature of SoD is what made it so fun in the first place.
@@DB-ku7vu Until the nature of such an experiment led to unfun / bad design choices.
examples would be
-super bursty one shot pvp with worse class balance than classic (no longer rock paper scissors/ several dominating classes)
-no balance on raid dps classes (this was the main thing people were asking for with classic + LOL)
-replacing the classic itemization with inflated gear ilvls from raids at every bracket leaving dungeons and quest gears irrelevant for the most part although not entirely.
-Instead of revitalizing the dungeons and having a multitude of them to run per phase you make us run one raid every phase.
-excursions (run in circle for 4 hours to max level) is objectively worse than adding more quests to do and letting people explore the world discovering them and leveling over a week not 4 HOURS.
-constant exp and gold boosts on content thats already gated. people had plenty of time to level already and classic leveling is THE game.
-Gating leveling into phases ruins the feel of progression at your own pace. You progress only as fast as they release the phases.
Fun is relative to what you enjoy but myself and a lot of others found these design decisions to be offputting and unfun. If your having fun then im happy for you but at this point id rather play retail than SoD.
12:40 if you are coming back to the video just for this
I had a warrior called index in my boomys shuffle, he went 1-5 xD
15:52 wtf is going on ?? XD please let's see more of these two doing arena XDDDD
“Close that Bro” hilarious
these videos just keep getting better
18:30 my wife walks down stairs and thinks im watching gay korn
That Judgement kill at 9 minutes had me lauge a bit to hard xD
that was sooooo goood - savix never disapoints
Play with a gamepad it's so much fun when your configurations right
i saw the title. i saw the thumbnail, and i thought, of course ur having fun, ur palidin
The gigachad paladin that retail needs but doesn't deserve.
The arenas were hilarious
Is this phase 4 sir ? It looks kinda based
Every time I think I want to play retail, I watch people play retail, and I no longer want to play retail.
😂😂 so true
For real, retail pvp gameplay always wants me to come back🥵
I always think I don't want to play retail and when I watch people play retail I want to play retail 😆 😆
Yeah playing the same content we played 20 years ago…yeah that’s what’s keeping wow alive…🙃
finally goat savix is back
10:33 toxic compliment I guess
Retail was so good when all the classic Andys were on SOD and WOTLK. Now the dorks are coming back, RIP retail
Where is Pilav?
omg i love it but i get ptsd from not seeing the trinket being used xd
There is a lego axe you could try to get if your lucky
3:00 for real, thats how i feel, cata,remix,season 4...its too much content
I only follow you for the occasional confirmation that Pilav is alive
boys i need the source of that index vtuber meme
it's just vtubers i'm pretty sure.
ahhahahahahahahaha jesus christ that first 2v2 game had me crying
Finally the Ashbringer found back to retail❤️
10:00 tbf, 1 dps should never be able to kill 1 healer. If they can, there is something wrong with the game and you might as well not play a healer.
Ayoo i just wanted to say that the index part made me pause video and write this comment. Weird champ but also based index.
WHO IS PILLAV, WHERE IS HE SAVIX???
ever since the pally rework, paladin IS world of warcraft
RIP pilav, still missed. Only real ones remember pilav
Please more retail contents, thanks.
Bean is undoubtedly pogchamp
Let's goooo I miss you on retail arena
i just laughed my bad boy butt off. holy that was funny.
Retail PVP has been such a fun break from the AB honor grind
Yea I missed 40min queues alot
@@Rudbeckbitten Only shuffle has long ques everything else is fast/moderate que
Why did you quit SoD ?
Retail in any state will always be better then classic
Yea and some people think Terminator 4 is the best of all the Terminator movies.
Braindead
makes me wanna get on my pala aswell! gdamn
Wow players do not understand the word "quit" They need to stop saying they quit lmao
There is no such thing as quitting wow, I haven’t played in months but I’m certain that I’m gonna come back to it some day.
And with the expansion next year, oof it’s gonna be a good time
@@als4410 for sure! But seems like every xpac we get videos "why i quit retail wow" lmao
More of this. So good.
I prefer retail Savix
Dragonflight? Subscribed.
Did you quit SoD?
Did he quit sod?
Please just never forget SoD ❤ love all your vids😅
There’s just too many buttons in retail man, I’m too old for it.
Yeah, RETAIL IS BASED!
No fucking waaaaaay I’m the Druid that doesn’t die how come I didn’t recognize you? Maaaan I could’ve taken pictures
eu sei que deve ter um Brasileiro por aqui, então lá vai o comentário que você está procurando. LÁ ELE 1000X!
Edits on point
PLEASE MORE RETAIL PVP
Finally the koreanpistol comes back
Did he quit sod?
CHAT MAN WHAT HAPPENED MAN
enh sham next? :O
They brought back auras as a form of raid buff so paladins are required for raiding.
I traded him 69 gold once and he traded me 69 back 🥵
Moaning out 10% hp regrowths
Savix has deleted his main so many times and then restored it
DO NOT TEASE PILAV.... RIP
savix pls talk to pilav to comeback for cata classic i really miss him
Ngl it looks kinda good even tho I lost trust in retail since bfa but this thing somehow reminds me legion. Perhaps give it 1 more try or delay this try to the war within.
I feel this same way; i’m probably gunna give War Within a shot and most my classic andy friends are on the same page. Maybe there’s hope for retail…
I would like to give it a try but i haven't played retail since beginning of WoD. And with all the changes and weird scaling stuff idk.
what happened to the extreme edits 🙃 i miss those days
who up twisting they seal
I really hate those flashy lights and so many buttons. Too much.
the meme at 10:20 is why i kinda got off wow pvp lol
Blizz said healer should easily survive 1v1 and struggle with 2v1 lol. So now we have the healers that survive forever
I think there are always been some specs through expentions that actually can 1v1 a healer, as Ret its nearly impossible
@@akundelar7452 same for frost dk currently
@@akundelar7452 As a fury warrior, I bring the pain.
Its a moral victory over healers when all I do is zug them. I might not kill them, but I've sure wasted their time. And mine.
Wait this isn't the win I thought it was.
this game mode is great
our lord is back to retail ???????