Miranda is a true example of “transgenderism” which is exceedingly rare. A biological male who identifies and emotes like a biological woman, and has the compassion of a woman which enables Miranda to respect and empathize with women. Not these autogynophelic men who fetishize, hate, and want to erase and replace women.
Oh thank goodness for independent thinkers like Miranda. 💚 It's such a relief to hear. Don't forget to look for ancient graffiti in old churches, little drawings sometimes and voices from the past.
Was Miranda talking about the church in Faversham, at the beginning? I'd love to visit this church, so fascinating and I love the way old English churches smell. It's so comforting.
Preston, I've just heard your conversation with Dr. Juli Slattery and I am incredibly humbled and taken with your work. I'm looking forward to listening to more of your work and your recently released book. Thank you for navigating these conversations and topics in such an open and life giving way.
Just a note about radical feminists. I don’t count myself as one but those that do DO label themselves radical feminists. It’s important to understand that the word “radical” in this case does not mean militant and crazy. It means “going to the root.” It’s a terrible PR problem, they really should have named themselves something else that wouldn’t confuse people so much.
The crazy people are those who use the pejorative term TERF (always) as a generic slur against anyone who is critical (questioning) of transgender activist ideology as Miranda explains. Those on the receiving end always view it as a slur; most do not accept that they are trans-exclusionary, as other than single-sex spaces (which are about sex not gender), they are trans-inclusionary in every way. Furthermore, the women they attack are often not radical or even feminists... think of the women on Mumsnet for example. Regarding the PR problem, as someone once said ' if we women as a group/class, decide to forgo the term 'woman' and instead call ourselves pinkfluffycockwombles, they would insist that they were 100% equally pinkfluffycockwombles, and that any distinction or discussion was verboten. You cannot placate a person who believes the legal fiction that a piece of paper makes them biologically female. Misogynistic males have been looking for a fifth column into women's culture for a while now. It appears they've found it.
@@lyndaireland6474 I find it hard to understand how those who use the term TERF as an insult can't see the irony. I would say the radical theory is one which totally re-writes a branch of science to fit a political narrative and not in an acceptable scientific way but on social platforms. If you raise your eyebrows at the concept of accepted scientific fact being treated as though it were just an opinion they call you radical.
More people need to see this perspective. Much appreciated both. Separate comment because you tube won't allow me to post my other, agreeing with what Miranda said. Nothing offensive in it. Sick of the unreasonable censorship.
1:16:40 Wow, I was not expecting to get a shout out from Miranda! Yes, I've spoken at length about faith issues with Miranda. I'm an Exvangelical and trans myself, so it's somewhat misleading if you assume I approached this conversation as an Evangelical.
yOOOOOOO these insights on porn are well worth thinking about (you can have convo about that completely outside any of the trans topics it affects all genders and sexualities i think)
16:55 Not to mention that in the UK there is 1 trans murder per year and this has been consistent for years. In that country trans people are statistically the safest demographic.
Terrific conversation. Learned a lot. Men Trapped in Men's Bodies available at Amazon for £71.36!!! Kindle version £50.15!!! It's enough to make you think there's a conspiracy to hide it.
Listening again and I’m reminded of debate over JK Rowling. ruclips.net/video/6Avcp-e4bOs/видео.html. Listened to this as well and honestly I’m going in circles trying to know where to stand.
Please forgive me since commenting here is the current maximum extent of my courage to be visible? Whether anyone considers themselves christian or not, may I please include some extra nuance to your conversation? I have no intention of attempting any kind of evangelization in my contribution, I would however like to supply some extra dimensión to the discourse. To advance some concepts I would like to present some quotes. First: Isa 56:4-5 KJV 4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant; 5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off. Second: Mat 19:11-12 KJV 11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. Third: Act 8:26-40 KJV which I consider too long to be quoted here. I would love to note first that the term eunuch in these quotes seems to be defined by the Lord Jesus himself to include intersex individuals (eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb). Unwilling (some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men) and willing (eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs) individuals appear similarly defined. May I also note the quote (unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters). I am aware that original Hebrew literally is translated "a hand and a name" greater than of sons and of daughters. I am, however, quite intrigued by the implications that eunuchs are given recognition separate from sons and from daughters. I consider myself to be a eunuch (trans). I am not exactly a son and not exactly a daughter. I have a woefully masculine face and physique but I am definitely not a son (AMAB MTF post SRS (GCS)). Therefore I do not fit in sons' spaces or daughters' spaces. I have immersed myself in the philosophical, psychological, political and theological literature and media for a significant portion of seven decades and conclude that I am physically, politically, perceptually and theologically non-binary. Psychologically, I have identified as female since the age of two or three but diligent discipline discouraged any hint or discussion of my feminine identity or behavior. My ideal puberty would have included hormone blockers until a legally acceptable age to begin HRT and GCS (SRS) and then as nearly normal womanhood as attainable. In actuality, the diligent discipline has induced my voluntary celibacy and perception that I have been insidiously gaslighted and have a subtle incidence of complex traumatic stress disorder by the dismissing, ignoring, denying and suppressing of my gender identity. I hope my comments and the quotes are discovered to be beneficial. I pray that nothing is found to be triggering because my intent was to be somehow loving, compassionate and empathetic to each and everyone. If you have deigned to read this entire comment, thank you much!
I read your entire comment. I wish I was as articulate as you! I am not educated enough at this time to engage in dialogue (on any angle, for that matter). I will say a prayer for though because I do know the value of a safe space for conversation/discourse. God bless you! ♡
I've definitely seen trans women saying vile things to and about women who they deem "terfs," and I condemn that completely. But you're acting as if the gender critical feminists are completely innocent, when in reality they are capable of and in fact do demonstrate the same level of cruelty. I feel like you're intentionally only siding with the feminists because you are trying to impress them for some reason, not because you actually care about the truth and being fair. I'm not even a leftist or "woke" by any stretch of the imagination, but even I can see through this crap.
Condemnation does not go like that. Maybe this is another word that trans ideology has "trans"formed beyond recognition. You are blatantly lying when you claim that the disgusting brutal misogyny of trans activists have any parallel in feminist response in intensity volume or character.
@@shaundudley4576 Im pretty sure you're biased toward one side here, but okay. I don't excuse either side for their misdeeds-- there are some delusional, militant and, yes, misogynistic trans activists out there. There's also a lot of hateful, vile, toxic gender critical feminists out there. I know because I've read their online threads. But sure, believe what you wish.
@@shannynmartin3157 The money and power resides with the trans lobby. Stonewall et al who advocate for the abolition if women's spaces get millions. Women have to self fund and are financially disadvantaged usually. They are being battered from all sides- socally, politically, sexually. Most gender critical people have been sexually abused. Not the case with the rich/well funded/middle class trans lobby, and most of the feminists are rational bar twitter, wheres the trans activists are both strategic and hugely misogynist, and now ally with mens rights activists: www.terfisaslur.com
I am very confused... How is this person trans? He/she didn't even answer any personal question about their experience being trans, they say they transitioned, but don't see evidence of that, I only see a regular man who has a female name and wears a shirt with a flower that doesn't look quite masculine... I don't see any effort to pass as female, I really wonder how this person is trans and how he is intending to speak on behalf of trans people??? Usually when I watch videos of trans people, (for example Blaire White, or other interviews Preston did) they help me to better understand their experience, but this is just very confusing 🥴 I am sorry, but I don't believe this person to be actually trans, he couldn't even say a single sentence about his experience being trans 🤔 If anyone disagrees, feel free to prove me wrong 🙂 I'd really like to understand!
I am trans. A few years ago I was involved in this conversation publicly and I became friends with Miranda. I disagree with her position on trans issues but I like her as a person. She's at the extreme margins of the trans community. I think she counts herself as trans primarily because she has medically transitioned. But given her position on trans issues, you're right, she's not going to help you develop much empathy towards what trans folks are going through. I don't think she considers that part of her purpose.
It's frustrating to watch you platform horribly anti-trans messages instead of spending that time to platform trans people who can explain what "the other side" actually thinks, to help Christians understand the culture better. Instead, you have just propagate more outdated and violent ideas to thousands of people.
@@tayh.6235The issue is Mr. Sprinkle is presenting a voice that confirms right-wing biases to a (I would assume) right-wing audience, rather than informing his audience about mainstream biological and social understandings. (Contrapoints is a pretty good voice for this). I am not aware of any interviews he has had with trans-positive people, but let us know if he has. To a spectrum of viewpoints: generally yes. Exceptions include if the views in question are horrendously ill-informed or demonstrably false (e.g. flat earth), or bigotedly hateful (e.g. white supremacists).; we don't need to hear what white supremacists have to say to agree that racism is bad. In this case, Miranda toes that unreasonable perspective line to a concerning degree.
@@isaachaynes1832 Hey, if you check out part 5 of this series, he talks to a Christian transwoman who is happily transitioned. He does a generally good job from what I've seen of trying to let a variety of voices be heard that will each challenge someone I've also listened to a number of Contrapoints' videos too, and have definitely appreciated hearing her perspective. At the end of the day, I'm on the non-affirming side, but people are fascinating and I always want to understand more of how other people think and feel.
This is the third interview I watched of the series, one was with someone who detransitioned and the other was with a happily transitioned trans woman, both were very interesting, but this video here I really found confusing... This person claims to be trans but doesn't give any reason why, doesn't talk the slightest bit about their personal experience or transition 🤔 the impression I have is that he is only calling himself trans to obtain the "right" to discredit actual trans people???? The only thing poiting to him being trans is that he is a man with a female name 🤨 I am very confused 😕
@@isaachaynes1832 You yourself are straw-man-ing the gender critical movement as being 'right wing conservatives' which couldn't be further from the truth. Most of us come from the left, many are socialists and Labour party voters for years. The basis of our concern is male violence and the obvious safeguarding risks that self ID in law brings. In the UK 3 women a week are murdered by men.. 60% of trans identifying people in prisons are male sex offenders. Does that mean 60% of trans women are rapists? Of course not, it's criminals using loopholes - because once moved to women's prisons these men have committed rapes. Are you aware contra Points identified as a 'cross dresser' for years, btw? I'm very skeptical of the reasons for her "transition" and most of her views are easily debunked. For example as Miranda states most of the stats around violence and trans women are entirely false and pale in comparison to bio women. I'd recommend the you tube channel "Peak Trans" Maria comes at the issue from a skeptical, logical and definitely left wing perspective.
Miranda is a true example of “transgenderism” which is exceedingly rare. A biological male who identifies and emotes like a biological woman, and has the compassion of a woman which enables Miranda to respect and empathize with women. Not these autogynophelic men who fetishize, hate, and want to erase and replace women.
It helps with the feelings of despair I think. Hopeful almost!
Oh thank goodness for independent thinkers like Miranda. 💚 It's such a relief to hear.
Don't forget to look for ancient graffiti in old churches, little drawings sometimes and voices from the past.
Miranda is so well-spoken snd clever.
Honestly I just respect Miranda SO much, please have him on again!!
Was Miranda talking about the church in Faversham, at the beginning? I'd love to visit this church, so fascinating and I love the way old English churches smell. It's so comforting.
Preston, I've just heard your conversation with Dr. Juli Slattery and I am incredibly humbled and taken with your work. I'm looking forward to listening to more of your work and your recently released book. Thank you for navigating these conversations and topics in such an open and life giving way.
Thank you Preston for your work on these issues !
Just a note about radical feminists. I don’t count myself as one but those that do DO label themselves radical feminists. It’s important to understand that the word “radical” in this case does not mean militant and crazy. It means “going to the root.” It’s a terrible PR problem, they really should have named themselves something else that wouldn’t confuse people so much.
The crazy people are those who use the pejorative term TERF (always) as a generic slur against anyone who is critical (questioning) of transgender activist ideology as Miranda explains. Those on the receiving end always view it as a slur; most do not accept that they are trans-exclusionary, as other than single-sex spaces (which are about sex not gender), they are trans-inclusionary in every way. Furthermore, the women they attack are often not radical or even feminists... think of the women on Mumsnet for example.
Regarding the PR problem, as someone once said ' if we women as a group/class, decide to forgo the term 'woman' and instead call ourselves pinkfluffycockwombles, they would insist that they were 100% equally pinkfluffycockwombles, and that any distinction or discussion was verboten. You cannot placate a person who believes the legal fiction that a piece of paper makes them biologically female. Misogynistic males have been looking for a fifth column into women's culture for a while now. It appears they've found it.
@@lyndaireland6474 I find it hard to understand how those who use the term TERF as an insult can't see the irony. I would say the radical theory is one which totally re-writes a branch of science to fit a political narrative and not in an acceptable scientific way but on social platforms. If you raise your eyebrows at the concept of accepted scientific fact being treated as though it were just an opinion they call you radical.
More people need to see this perspective. Much appreciated both. Separate comment because you tube won't allow me to post my other, agreeing with what Miranda said. Nothing offensive in it. Sick of the unreasonable censorship.
I LOVE Miranda!!!!! Please upload part 2!!!
1:16:40 Wow, I was not expecting to get a shout out from Miranda! Yes, I've spoken at length about faith issues with Miranda. I'm an Exvangelical and trans myself, so it's somewhat misleading if you assume I approached this conversation as an Evangelical.
yOOOOOOO these insights on porn are well worth thinking about (you can have convo about that completely outside any of the trans topics it affects all genders and sexualities i think)
13:49 Good stuff, Miranda. You made me crack up. I love the honesty. XD
Another wonderful interview! Thank you both! Much love!
Miranda is inspirational and very brave. I would love to see more and hope Miranda goes on to write a book.
Wow and wow - thanks for this interview Preston!
16:55 Not to mention that in the UK there is 1 trans murder per year and this has been consistent for years. In that country trans people are statistically the safest demographic.
Wow this was fascinating. Thank you for this discussion!
Wish I could like this twice
love Miranda and her common sense attitude x
Terrific conversation. Learned a lot. Men Trapped in Men's Bodies available at Amazon for £71.36!!! Kindle version £50.15!!! It's enough to make you think there's a conspiracy to hide it.
Great conversation.
Wow he is awesome.
Listening again and I’m reminded of debate over JK Rowling. ruclips.net/video/6Avcp-e4bOs/видео.html. Listened to this as well and honestly I’m going in circles trying to know where to stand.
Please forgive me since commenting here is the current maximum extent of my courage to be visible?
Whether anyone considers themselves christian or not, may I please include some extra nuance to your conversation? I have no intention of attempting any kind of evangelization in my contribution, I would however like to supply some extra dimensión to the discourse. To advance some concepts I would like to present some quotes.
First:
Isa 56:4-5 KJV 4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant; 5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
Second:
Mat 19:11-12 KJV 11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
Third:
Act 8:26-40 KJV which I consider too long to be quoted here.
I would love to note first that the term eunuch in these quotes seems to be defined by the Lord Jesus himself to include intersex individuals (eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb). Unwilling (some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men) and willing (eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs) individuals appear similarly defined.
May I also note the quote (unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters). I am aware that original Hebrew literally is translated "a hand and a name" greater than of sons and of daughters. I am, however, quite intrigued by the implications that eunuchs are given recognition separate from sons and from daughters.
I consider myself to be a eunuch (trans). I am not exactly a son and not exactly a daughter. I have a woefully masculine face and physique but I am definitely not a son (AMAB MTF post SRS (GCS)). Therefore I do not fit in sons' spaces or daughters' spaces.
I have immersed myself in the philosophical, psychological, political and theological literature and media for a significant portion of seven decades and conclude that I am physically, politically, perceptually and theologically non-binary. Psychologically, I have identified as female since the age of two or three but diligent discipline discouraged any hint or discussion of my feminine identity or behavior. My ideal puberty would have included hormone blockers until a legally acceptable age to begin HRT and GCS (SRS) and then as nearly normal womanhood as attainable.
In actuality, the diligent discipline has induced my voluntary celibacy and perception that I have been insidiously gaslighted and have a subtle incidence of complex traumatic stress disorder by the dismissing, ignoring, denying and suppressing of my gender identity.
I hope my comments and the quotes are discovered to be beneficial. I pray that nothing is found to be triggering because my intent was to be somehow loving, compassionate and empathetic to each and everyone. If you have deigned to read this entire comment, thank you much!
I read your entire comment. I wish I was as articulate as you! I am not educated enough at this time to engage in dialogue (on any angle, for that matter). I will say a prayer for though because I do know the value of a safe space for conversation/discourse. God bless you! ♡
I've definitely seen trans women saying vile things to and about women who they deem "terfs," and I condemn that completely. But you're acting as if the gender critical feminists are completely innocent, when in reality they are capable of and in fact do demonstrate the same level of cruelty. I feel like you're intentionally only siding with the feminists because you are trying to impress them for some reason, not because you actually care about the truth and being fair. I'm not even a leftist or "woke" by any stretch of the imagination, but even I can see through this crap.
Condemnation does not go like that. Maybe this is another word that trans ideology has "trans"formed beyond recognition. You are blatantly lying when you claim that the disgusting brutal misogyny of trans activists have any parallel in feminist response in intensity volume or character.
@@shaundudley4576 Im pretty sure you're biased toward one side here, but okay. I don't excuse either side for their misdeeds-- there are some delusional, militant and, yes, misogynistic trans activists out there. There's also a lot of hateful, vile, toxic gender critical feminists out there. I know because I've read their online threads. But sure, believe what you wish.
@@shannynmartin3157 The money and power resides with the trans lobby. Stonewall et al who advocate for the abolition if women's spaces get millions. Women have to self fund and are financially disadvantaged usually. They are being battered from all sides- socally, politically, sexually. Most gender critical people have been sexually abused. Not the case with the rich/well funded/middle class trans lobby, and most of the feminists are rational bar twitter, wheres the trans activists are both strategic and hugely misogynist, and now ally with mens rights activists: www.terfisaslur.com
lol stop laughing
I am very confused... How is this person trans? He/she didn't even answer any personal question about their experience being trans, they say they transitioned, but don't see evidence of that, I only see a regular man who has a female name and wears a shirt with a flower that doesn't look quite masculine... I don't see any effort to pass as female, I really wonder how this person is trans and how he is intending to speak on behalf of trans people??? Usually when I watch videos of trans people, (for example Blaire White, or other interviews Preston did) they help me to better understand their experience, but this is just very confusing 🥴 I am sorry, but I don't believe this person to be actually trans, he couldn't even say a single sentence about his experience being trans 🤔 If anyone disagrees, feel free to prove me wrong 🙂 I'd really like to understand!
I am trans. A few years ago I was involved in this conversation publicly and I became friends with Miranda. I disagree with her position on trans issues but I like her as a person. She's at the extreme margins of the trans community. I think she counts herself as trans primarily because she has medically transitioned. But given her position on trans issues, you're right, she's not going to help you develop much empathy towards what trans folks are going through. I don't think she considers that part of her purpose.
He's medically transitioned. Blaire white is not the norm for what people can afford to look like.
It's frustrating to watch you platform horribly anti-trans messages instead of spending that time to platform trans people who can explain what "the other side" actually thinks, to help Christians understand the culture better. Instead, you have just propagate more outdated and violent ideas to thousands of people.
He interviews a variety of people. Shouldn't the full spectrum of views be heard before making a judgement?
@@tayh.6235The issue is Mr. Sprinkle is presenting a voice that confirms right-wing biases to a (I would assume) right-wing audience, rather than informing his audience about mainstream biological and social understandings. (Contrapoints is a pretty good voice for this).
I am not aware of any interviews he has had with trans-positive people, but let us know if he has.
To a spectrum of viewpoints: generally yes. Exceptions include if the views in question are horrendously ill-informed or demonstrably false (e.g. flat earth), or bigotedly hateful (e.g. white supremacists).; we don't need to hear what white supremacists have to say to agree that racism is bad.
In this case, Miranda toes that unreasonable perspective line to a concerning degree.
@@isaachaynes1832 Hey, if you check out part 5 of this series, he talks to a Christian transwoman who is happily transitioned.
He does a generally good job from what I've seen of trying to let a variety of voices be heard that will each challenge someone
I've also listened to a number of Contrapoints' videos too, and have definitely appreciated hearing her perspective.
At the end of the day, I'm on the non-affirming side, but people are fascinating and I always want to understand more of how other people think and feel.
This is the third interview I watched of the series, one was with someone who detransitioned and the other was with a happily transitioned trans woman, both were very interesting, but this video here I really found confusing... This person claims to be trans but doesn't give any reason why, doesn't talk the slightest bit about their personal experience or transition 🤔 the impression I have is that he is only calling himself trans to obtain the "right" to discredit actual trans people???? The only thing poiting to him being trans is that he is a man with a female name 🤨 I am very confused 😕
@@isaachaynes1832 You yourself are straw-man-ing the gender critical movement as being 'right wing conservatives' which couldn't be further from the truth. Most of us come from the left, many are socialists and Labour party voters for years. The basis of our concern is male violence and the obvious safeguarding risks that self ID in law brings. In the UK 3 women a week are murdered by men.. 60% of trans identifying people in prisons are male sex offenders. Does that mean 60% of trans women are rapists? Of course not, it's criminals using loopholes - because once moved to women's prisons these men have committed rapes. Are you aware contra Points identified as a 'cross dresser' for years, btw? I'm very skeptical of the reasons for her "transition" and most of her views are easily debunked. For example as Miranda states most of the stats around violence and trans women are entirely false and pale in comparison to bio women. I'd recommend the you tube channel "Peak Trans" Maria comes at the issue from a skeptical, logical and definitely left wing perspective.