WE WERE SOLDIERS (2002) MOVIE REACTION!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!! Full Movie Review | Fourth Of July
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with the 4th of July (Independence Day) right around the corner, John & Andrew Gordon reunite to give their First Time Reaction, Commentary, Breakdown, Analysis, and Full Spoiler Review of the Vietnam War Drama adapted from Harold G. Moore & Joseph Lee Galloway's Best Selling Book "We Were Soldiers Once...and Young: Ia Drang - The Battle That Changed the War in Vietnam" & starring Mel Gibson (Braveheart, Hacksaw Ridge, Flight Risk, Boneyard) as Lt. Col. Hal Moore, Madeleine Stowe (The Last of the Mohicans) as Julie Moore, Greg Kinnear (Little Miss Sunshine) as Maj. Bruce Crandall, Sam Elliot (Tombstone, Road House) as Sgt. Maj. Basil Plumley, Chris Klein (Election, American Pie) as 2nd Lt. Jack Geoghegan, Keri Russell (The Americans, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes) as Barbara Geoghegan, & Barry Pepper (Saving Private Ryan, True Grit, The Green Mile), along with Clark Gregg, John Hamm, Ryan Hurst, Marc Blucas, & MORE..
John & Andrew REACT to all the Best Scenes & Most Harrowing Moments including Arriving in North Vietnam, The French Foreign Legion, Moving into the Valley of the Shadow of Death, The Telegram, Valley of Death, Napalm Air Strike, Army Housewives & Beyond.
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i seen it in theater back in 2002
do a review on gettybury 1993
Can you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE watch Good Morning Vietnam with Robin Williams. PLEEEEASE!?
You missed FREDDIE PRINCE JR in the prologue he was married to Buffy the vampire slayer. He was in the Scooby doo movie's as fred
May I suggest reacting to TO HELL AND BACK THE AUDIE MURPHY STORY. Audie was the most decorated American soldier of WW2 after the war he became a Hollywood actor making loads of westerns but he also got the part of himself in TO HELL AND BACK. So it's actually Audie Murphy playing Audie Murphy and that's why it's my favourite war movie 👍
Critics panned this movie when it came out, criticizing for its “cheap and cheesy” dialogue. The real Hal Moore came forward and publicly apologized that his men lacked creativity and originality during their final moments.
That got the critics to shut up.
Delivered like a true American. No bull.
@@ScarriorIIIhehehe a BOSS! LOL
The media are a bunch of A**holes. Through and through.
And the truth is that Henry Herrick said exactly those words.... I'm glad I could die for my country. And Carl Palmer one day before his 40th birthday who prophesized his death at X_Ray to Galen Bungham....tell my wife I love her.
Hal Moore's response was perfect. War is delightful to those who have no experience of it
@@adamr6794 True. Only people who would consider war exciting are people not experienced it. Only one's who seek to use war to advance their benefit are people who do not risk themselves and send others to die for their ambition.
I am a 74 year old Vietnam vet and Army retiree. This film always hits me hard. I ask you to please see a film that Gibson directed (but did not star in), Hacksaw Ridge. It is the story of Desmond Doss, a pacifist who served with distinction as a medical corpsman during World War II. Like this film, it is a true story of incredible heroism and is every bit as outstanding as this film.
Absolutely!!! Amazing movie and Garfield was a force of nature in that role
My Uncle and father-in-law were Vietnam vets... thank you for your service. You deserve better than how our country treated veterans during that time. You are truly the heroes!
Thank you for your service sir. We’re forever grateful
"It is the story of Desmond Doss" No, its the ridiculous retelling of Desmond Doss full of typical Mel Gibson garbage. The exact garbage that Doss feared would be put into any movie made about him which is why he refused to cooperate with any director while he was alive. He somehow managed to exaggerate all of the events that happened around Doss, while also underplaying and excluding many of his very real feats. Its a fucking insulting movie if you have done even a bit of reading into the actual battle or the man himself.
Portraying Doss as a hated greenhorn at that point in the war is beyond fucking stupid, he was already a veteran of several battles and well respected by the men he served with by that point. And that is only the tip of the iceberg for the stupidity of that movie.
As a 39 yr old OIF injured/Medically retired 82nd/XVIII Airborne Army Ranger. I appreciate you covering this. I doubt the channel would ever do ‘Band of Brothers’ but it’s amazing and you should watch it on your own time. 🫡
Agreed great series
I absolutely love Band of Brothers❤❤
I watched Band of Brothers. Oh God i cried like a baby with my boyfriend he cries so much too. ❤
Band of brother's, the pacific and generation kill are all great war series
Thank you for your service ✌💖😀
This movie is so thought provoking. My dad is a Vietnam vet, but he never talked about anything from the war when I was growing up. Even when we watched other war movies, he never flinched. He had this almost haunted look to his eyes sometimes, but he never flinched. However, while watching this one, he broke down and cried like a baby. Afterwards, he said that fighting in the war was much worse than portrayed, but that it was closer to realism than any of the other movies had come so far. I can't even imagine silently carrying all that trauma around for decades without complaint for the sake of his wife and kids. My old man is one of the toughest men I've ever known! I have nothing but respect for the men of our military.
Amen! And God bless your father and all those who have served.
My uncle is the same. My mum says he was a very different man before the war. I can’t even imagine.
Please tell your pop thank you for his service 🥰
After the war General Moore worked on cleaning up the drug abuse problem and racial strife that were prevalent at the time in the 7th Division. His plan established Officer's Leadership Schools for company-grade officers and an NCO Leadership School for staff sergeants and below as well as issuing an "Equal Opportunity Policy". He backed up the policy with the promise to punish those leaders who discriminated based on race, ethnicity or creed. As a part of the reformation of division morale, he established several different athletic programs, including football, basketball, and boxing.
The 7th was his Regiment. The Airborne Division above him was the 101st, of Band of Brothers fame. They fly in helicopters to this day, while the 82nd Airborne continues to deploy via parachutes.
@@Ryan_Christopher If I'm not mistaken, 1-7CAV fell under 1st Cav (Airmobile), not the 101ABN (AAST). the 101ABN cav unit was Troop D, 3d Sqdn, 5th Cav
@@Ryan_Christopher After the war, he transferred to the 7th ID, with which he had previously served. Notice that he wears a 7th ID patch on his right shoulder throughout the movie. At the beginning of the movie he has 11th Abn on his left shoulder, then during training they all are wearing 2nd ID. During Vietnam, both 101st Abn _AND_ 1st Air Cav were Air Assault.
Guys, my father participated in this battle. He came in the second wave of choppers. He ended up doing a tour and a half due to clerical errors. Came home with a purple heart and several other medals, including a commendation for the most jumps in his unit. And i couldn't get him to watch this movie.
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But he already did..🫡🇺🇸
When Joe is doing the narration at the beginning about the Ia Drang Valley and he says the North Vietnamese soldiers that "died by our hands", he is being literal. He really did put down his camera and grabbed a rifle to defend the wounded soldiers in the medical area when the NVA overran the position.
Joe and Hal Moore were life-long friends after the battle.
My uncle is a Vietnam veteran. Was under Moore and in that conflict. He didn't speak much about it other than Lt. Gen Moore a great leader and trained us well.
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I was lucky enough to be an extra in this film! My Buddy was in the California national guard, and I was active duty army at the time. He told me about the shoot, and I joined the unit that played 1-7 Cav in Fort Hunter-Liggett. Two years later, I participated in the invasion of Iraq.
Full circle, 25 years and a bunch of deployments in the army later, I’m a military technical advisor in Hollywood and I’ve worked on some amazing films.
This film was truly a special project to work on. Especially since I’ve done so much training at Fort Hunter-Liggett since then.
I’m glad you viewed this film. They do a much better job showing the home front and the contrast with the battlefield than most other films.
Thanks for your perspective. Pass it on.
I was an extra on that too! Only did the "Garry Owen" scene where they ran down the hill to the choppers. Was supposed to be in the "lost platoon", but some unit from Ft. Lewis was down doing training, so they got to do that.
You were active down there.... Camp Bob?
@@davidsizemore5642 I was in the 2ID on leave at the time.
@@MzQTMcHotness Ah. Tracking.
He and his wife, Julia, were instrumental in putting together a proper and official notification system for military casualties. Especially his wife, for obvious reasons. Others have elaborated on what Hal Moore himself did for his troops. Fort Moore, Home of the Infantry, has a name that it can wear with pride.
A couple years ago, I met with one of the survivors of the "Lost Platoon". Sgt. Savage wasn't the highest-ranking NCO left, he took command because he was the closest to the radio. The gentleman talked about how the Load Bearing Equipment was set up with dual canteens on their back sides. This meant that when they tried to get a drink later in the night, all their canteens were empty due to being hit by bullets. If a soldier raised above the ground by more than 10-12 inches, they were hit by rounds. The survivors of the Lost Platoon were placed on the line as reinforcements. Colonel Moore thought he was placing them in a quiet section of the line, but of course it was the section the enemy attacked right away. It was a constant chess game of move and react. Per the survivor, the only reason they made it through was Colonel Moore, Snake and the helicopters flying in and out, the officers and NCOS, their training, along with artillery and air to ground attacks by planes and helicopters.
Wow.
If I remember correctly Snakeshit and his guys were crash landing back at base left right and center. Crandall himself had something like 14 crash landings in this engagement
That one scene with the guy’s legs after the napalm (if you’ve watched the movie, you know which scene I mean), still haunts me to this day
Yes
The most memorable scene from this entire movie all these years later still
Yup an the white phosphorus grenade hit as well
For real!!
Army Lt. Jimmy Nakayama did not survive his injuries. He died two days later from his wounds, never being able to see his newly born child in this world.
The scene with the cab driver is the one that hurts the most everytime i watch this movie. Wearing the army jacket you can assume he is a veteran too. He knows what he has. That poor guy
Sgt. Major Plumley might be the most "we gotta water this down or people will think we are exaggerating" human beings to ever draw a breath.
I got an Uncle who was at Fort Benning when Sgt Maj Plummey was there, he told me Sam Elliott got him down to a T.
Plumbey was in a club rarer then the MOH being a 3 war combat vet
So the guy who was on the radio talking to the aircraft is a specialist who's essentially a combination Forward Observer and Air Traffic Controller. Its one of the most demanding positions in the military, as you're required to both provide targeting information, making sure all the bombs are hitting the appropriate targets, AND directing and coordinating the aircraft so that they don't run into each other or anything like that.
I was a Forward Observer when I was in the military and received some EXTREMELY light cross training on the subject, and its absolutely insane the amount of mental effort required to juggle all those moving pieces. Hes coordinating the planes, making sure they're not running into artillery, providing bombing target information, while under extremely heavy fire, as well as being fully aware that his performance could be directly responsible for the outcome of the entire battle. Absolutely legendary men, and an absolutely legendary performance in this particular battle.
My grandfather was a Forward Air Controller in 1972. He was a bit north in Da Nang. Such a difficult job.
Was he at Dong Ha?
My step dad worked with marine fo,s.
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Hal and Julie Moore were so influential to the development of the Army's family support structure that they renamed Fort Benning in Georgia in their honor. Fort Moore is the home of the infantry for the U.S. Army
Hal Moore was pure infantry as well, graduated near the bottom of his West Point class but managed to get an infantry posting and threw himself into it. Whatever people think about renaming stuff, that is one I think we can all get behind.
Thank you for reacting to this. My grandpa was a helicopter pilot in the battle of Ia Drang (this battle) and received a bronze star for his actions.
Truly one of the most underrated war films.
Saw it in theaters with my dad and my cousin.
FYI, the real cornel Moore was actually heavily involved in the production to get the best accurate depiction of the war from his part so mell Gibson could be as accurate as possible playing him
You mean Lieutenant General Hal Moore. He retired at that rank.
@@adambydand1214 I'm referring to how they said his name in an interview talking about the movie and how heavily he was involved in making it accurate as possible
In Ken Burns documentary on the war, an elderly Joe Galloway is seen on camera describing PFC Nakayama’s burns and how is skin literally sloughed off his bones after the friendly fire napalm strike. It really happened. Absolutely haunting stuff.
I ADORE the shot of Mel Gibson marching off the first time. We've seen him as a father figure; he puts that helmet on and he's a Soldier. Excellent visual storytelling. Also, they toned down how bad Jimmy Nakayama was burnt; in an interview Galloway explained that when he picked him up, he could feel his ankle bones crumbling.
49:13 “It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it.”
- Robert E. Lee.
So many young men came back messed up...my son's father was a Vietnam veteran, and he had flashbacks up to the day he died in 1985. It was on that day he finally found peace.
Your son's father? How does that work?
@@adamr6794 we weren't married, so I can't call him my husband, but he is still my son's father. Too old to use the term "baby daddy" authentically, lol.
The person in the cover of Life magazine and on the cover of this book became a VP of Cantor Fitzgerald in NYC. He lost his life at the World Trade Center on 9/11 after telling all his employees to leave, and then he went around the rest of the offices to tell them to leave. He was still in the building when it collapsed.
Rick Rescorla was a helluva guy.
He went back up those stairs singing welsh and never losing spirit.
A true hero.
@@dragonfly2936 thanks, I could not remember his name, and did not have book near to refer to it.
To answer you questions on the history of Bugels on the battlefield, Musical instruments were used for a long time as means of conveying orders. They had a much better time of cutting through the noise of battle than the human voice did and you'd use specific tunes or drum rhythms to give orders and messages.
French Indo China was part of the French colonial empire that sought independence after WW II. The French were soundly defeated in 1954 at the battle of Dien Bien Phu (presumably depicted in the opening scenes of the movie). Communism was expanding rapidly throughout the world after WW II and the US sought to stop its progress. Known as the "domino effect" the US feared the takeover of countries one by one in Asia. After the defeat in 1954 France pulled out of the region. President Eisenhower, concerned about Viet Nam's takeover, sent a small core of military advisors to assist in the fight for dominance. This began the US involvement in the country which did not end until 1974 and 58,000 fatal casualties.
The opening scene with the French Mobile Group 100 happened at the Mang Yang Pass between Pleiku and An Khe and not at Dien Bien Phu. The French lost around 2000 men and all were buried at the top of the pass with all the graves facing France. I've been there.
Intrestingly: Ho Chi Minh first sought U.S. help to gain Vietnamese independence against France. U.S. didn't want to oppose France and DeGaulle, so they rejected. Soviet Union was willing to give weapons and training as long Ho Chi Minh would accept communism... Rest is history...
@@thejamppa More precisely, the US wanted the French to join NATO so didn't oppose DeGaulle's insistence on reclaiming its former colonies, though they didn't publicly agree or approve of that. That left Ho Chi Min, who fought with the Americans against the Japanese, only one place to go for help.
As a military child seeing friends finding out about there parents death hurts so much
1:15:39 one of the many reasons this war was so bloody is that American would take a hill or region from the NVA then “clean it up” then they would literally leave the hill/region they just captured to go fight for another and the NVA would just go back after the Americans left and refortify it and rinse and repeat. Theres horror stories of soldiers saying the fought to take a hill and months later would have to do it again. Was just a meat grinder.
Joe Galloway had honestly as important of a role in this battle as any of the other soldiers. We need a civilian’s perspective on the battlefield to show the people back home why war is never, NEVER the answer.
Agreed. Well said.
And, he really did protect the wounded soldiers from what I have heard!
In some cases war is the only answer however Vietnam was not one of those cases. It was a purely civil war caused by divisions within after the Vietnamese people had successfully rebelled against their French colonial masters exploited by both the Chinese communist government and the American government to fight a "low cost" proxy war. The south Vietnamese were largely controlled by the corrupt former burocrats who worked for the French while the NVA was a true grass roots force supplied and trained by Chinese advisors. Had it not been for the Chinese involvement and Americas obsession with fighting communism America could well have found itself supporting the other side. That's what the author hinted at when he said it was a war the Americans never understood. America and the west in general turned a blind eye to far too many of their " allies" crimes and brutality in order to oppose the red menace.
"Heeeey, Joe." Jimmy Hendrix
One of the most powerful movies ever. The ending floors me. Mel looking over the horizon seeing hundreds of other hell holes they'd fight for like they just did. Must been awfully sobering and scary.
The story, Joe Galloway tells the Colonel about his Great Grandfathers buying shoes in Galveston was true.
I'm an Army Vet from OIF and still in the reserve. This movie has a special port in my heart as it classifies what humanity should be. the internal conflict. The connectivity we have with our "brothers/sisters" in arms. Love you both!
I did 2 tours in Iraq in the infantry, in 2003/2004. This was the movie that we watched to motivate us before we left. To answer a couple questions, white phosphorus (willy peat) is usually used to melt equipment, but can be used against people. Also a m60/240 gunner has an assistant gunner and an ammo bearer as a gun team. Always remember, "The soldier, above all others prays for peace". A quote from General Douglas MacArthur. Love the channel and the reactions.
Madeleine Stowe will lead to "The Last of the Mohicans"
Great reaction. My dad served in Vietnam. A war that was hated. Think about it, WW1 They came back as celebrated heros, WW2 The American troops really came back as heros. The Korean war. They were celebrated. But the Vietnam war. Which was not a win. And our soldiers returned home as villians, being spit on and called baby killers. There was no parade or celebration for them. Just PTSD, missing limbs and no real help returning back to civilian life. Very sad. The Vietnam war will always be near and dear to me.
I spent my entire adult life in the military. I have been in combat, I have seen the worst of people....but also the best. War is Hell. The war at home is the unimaginable hell. This film does an amazing job letting you FEEL both. From both sides of a conflict.
Considering some of the historical reactions that have been on this channel, I thank you John and you Andrew for do proper service to a movie such as this. the respect you showed the men, while still talking and enjoying the movie aspects of it, is how a true reaction should be, not one of jokes and laughter and satire, but one of respect and commendation.
This is one of the best reactions this channel has ever done, and when it comes to historical movies, I hope and beg that it is you two for the majority of historical reactions, for you two are 100% pure class.
When this movie came a co-worker who was in Nam when this movie was set said it was the most accurate war movie to what actually happened over there at that time.
Alot of moments and scenes are tear jerkers, but that one line when Gibson said, "I dont know if I'll forgive myself....that my men died, and I didn't." Still hits hard
You have to see the 2 movies directed by Clint Eastwood about the battle of Iwo Jima: Flag Of Our Fathers and Letters From Iwo Jima, movies that Clint filmed one after the other, both came out in 2006, Flag Of Our Fathers narrates the US side of the conflict and Letters From Iwo Jima shows the Japanese side, that last movie I think is the best of the two, and was nominated for awards.
I would love to react to both of those films!
@@andrewgordon7662Flags of our Fathers is a great movie. I hope you get to react to it. I haven’t seen Letters From Iwo Jima.
Letters From Iwo Jima was fantastic and certaonly the better of the two films.
Trumpets, how you send messages before radios. The emblem on Col. Moore's helmet are leaves, oak leaves.
The aircraft were evolving at a high rate. The prop driven plane was the forerunner of the A10 Warthog as far as protecting ground troops.
This was on TV every night. We waited for the news to see what happened that day. You are correct, information was now being delivered like never before.
Listening to countless Vietnam veterans interviews most have mentioned this as being the only movie to portray it as what it was. It wasn’t all fragging their officers they didn’t like, smoking pot and doing drugs, drafting men wasn’t as common as we think a lot of men actually volunteered.
The skin coming off with boots did happens for real as did basically everything in the movie. Listening to Joe Galloway relive that is haunting. That man can still see it, hear it, smell
It, and feel the bones in his hands.
Hal’s (Mel Gibson) wife is actress Madeline Stowe .. She starred with Brad Pitt & Bruce Willis in “The Twelve Monkeys”
You know the scene during the opening, where the bugler is shot in the neck. And at the end he is executed by rhe NVA. That soldier was played by the directors son. Whom was so disturbed by the sight of his son being “executed” in such a brutal manner, he had to walk off set for a moment.
i don’t recognize that agent phil coulson was in the film 😱
I'm so glad you watched this movie, it's one of my favorites! I don't watch it often because i usually cry through the entire movie. As a military brat, it's so nostalgic with the living on base and living through my mom and my sisters and I waiting and hoping that Dad came back safely from his deployment. I love that they took the time and showed what the families at home were going through. If you're a reader the book is excellent. I'm glad you guys enjoyed it and that you noticed all the little details that mean so much and make this movie so excellent.
My ex husband deployed 3 times to iraq at the height of the war the last thing i would say was " No medals, No flags" meaning dont do anything crazy to get medals cause back then you got those for really bad shit and of course no flag meaning i didn't want to be given a flag over his grave. Now thats what i say to my son. I spent years volunteering with Army wife organizations that Mrs. Moore helped found.
This and hacksaw ridge are my favorite war movies
My great uncle was a pilot for the First Cavalry and he showed me this movie when I was young, thank you for the reaction fellas. Btw he said the men sat on their helmets because bullets went through the heli like butter
One of the greatest war movies ever if you ask me.
If you like the movie. Then i recommend Ken Burns documentary series about the Vietnam war, we get to hear from Hal Moore and from Joe Galloway telling the real story. (He breaks down in tears talking about the trooper with the napalm burn)
They recently renamed Fort Benning, Georgia (Home of the Infantry) Fort Moore (after Lieutenant General Hal Moore and his wife Julia. (Gibson and Madeline Stowe)
Didn’t know France was involved? Bro that was their colony. They dragged us into that conflict. That’s such a crucial part to understanding Vietnam! 😭
OMG. As soon as I turned on my phone, the notification came. I'm sooooooo happy that you guys are reacting to one of my favorite War movies of all time❤️💯
Never clicked on a video so fast! Thank ya’ll for reacting to this one.
My grandpa was drafted in 1966 and by 1967 he was in country. He was in the tet offensive.
One thing that I appreciate about this movie (and that makes it unique as far as American made Vietnam War films), is that it spends a fair amount of time humanizing the NVA as well. The fact we see the battle from the North Vietnamese perspective (and especially their commander's perspective) is a great touch. The aftermath scene where the commander takes the American flag down and gives a short speech to his subordinate about how this battle is just beginning but "the end will be the same" apart from how many on his side will die to get there is extremely poetic and it foreshadows how ultimately the US continuing to invest so many of its own soldiers lives into this conflict didn't ultimately lead to the result it wanted.
agreed, the one war we should not have involved in 🫡🇺🇸
@@alexto137 Based on my own experiences (anecdotal for sure) as an American, I think I've never heard anyone (left, right, center etc.) outright defend America's involvement in Vietnam. There's nuances within the perspectives I've heard and differences of course between different people on different aspects of the war, but as far as the war itself, there's pretty universal agreement that we f'd up big time by getting involved.
He then puts the flag back like a headstone
@@seanbinkley7363i've lkterally heard rightwingers abd reliblcians say they shoudln't have left nd that the liberal pansies betrayed rhe war effort
I have seen them have rhe same reaction to the pukk out of Afghanistan
Bugles have been used for battlefield communication for centuries.
Different "tunes" meant different things.
Charge
Advance
Retreat
et cetera
Bugle calls were even used on military bases and outposts. For instance, "Tattoo" was played at night and was originally played to let the bartenders in the clubs on base know to "turn the taps to" {off} and stop serving for the night. "Taps to" became "Tattoo".
One reason you get a different feel in this movie from other Vietnam movies like full metal jacket it’s because this movie is set at the start of the war when American feelings were optimistic whereas movies like full metal jacket is set later in the war where the views of soldiers were a lot more morbid And worn down and things like drug use were at an all-time high
This movie always lives me in tears. I don’t care how you feel about your government but you have to respect any man willing to fight and die for his country. It takes balls to willingly put yourself in danger. I will always respect any soldier until he gives a reason not to
Second favorite war movie of all time behind hacksaw ridge
Such a great movie. Looking forward to watching the video properly when I get home later!
Well, Colonel Morre is a) a Battalion Commander and b) there is literally no place he can be in that valley where he would not get involved in fighting.
His opponent is a divisional commander, e.g. a general. THose guys are not supposed to be fighting, they got the bigger picture to take care of.
This. The battlefield was literally just like he described as a possibility. Smaller than a football field.
His opponent was a Colonel. Hal was a Lt. Col
I remember the war. I was young, but we had bracelets that had the number of POWs and we wrote letters to their families at school. I work for a vet who was a nurse (male) in Vietnam. This is one of his favorite movies. He worked on the planes that flew in and dead dropped to pick up injured. They picked everyone alive up, regardless of what side they were on, including civilians. There were at least 20 minutes, often much longer, from any doctors and they held those boys together as best they could. He lives with the side effects of the Agent Orange and suffers with what they call Sundowners Syndrome. I have so much respect for this man. My father was a Korean war veteran but rarely talked about it. So much respect for all of our troops. And yes, regardless of "sides" they are all someone's son, daughter, father, mother, brother, sister. If only the leaders would have a duel with each other and keep their citizens out of it. I bet there would be much less war. Also, I know Mel Gibson can be a hot button for people, myself included, but he is an amazing actor and always comes through in these kind of roles. Enjoyed your disscussion, ✌💖😀
This was so hard to get through.. My grandfather is on The Wall, killed late in the war (06/29/1972.) He was a Forward Air Controller flying for the 20th TASS (Tactical Air Support Squadron) out of Da Nang. He is credited with saving 51 men in a span of 20 minutes. 50 on the ground and his backseater. This war has effected my family in almost every way possible. This movie has honored men who fought and died in that war more than any other. If I ever have the privilege of meeting either of you two, or anyone involved with the movie, I would express my profound appreciation. This was hard to get through, but thank you for going through it with me.
For the first time i know a thumbnails not clickbait. Let the emotions flow gentleman.
The speech is iconic, that is a true leader!!
An underrated gem of Madadine Stowe is Unlawful Entry with Kurt Russell and Ray Leota
What I can appreciate about the scene with the NVA platoon moving in on the cutoff platoons position in the pitch dark. Is the sound of the heavy shaking breathing from one of the soldiers. It goes to show they were just as scared as our soldiers were.
This movie is underrated. It was released at a time when war movies were experiencing a resurgence thanks to the success of Saving Private Ryan. In 2002, it was starting to fade, and audiences were tiring of them. Another underrated gem released that same year was Windtalkers. Worth checking out.
Yall have earned a lifelong fan in me. Mad respect for your vulnerability in showing your emotions to the world. Secondly when yall said regardless of your dislike of Gibson, you respect his performance in this film. Takes a big man to be able to give kudos to someone they don’t agree with on many things 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The final charge did not happen, Another battalion from 7th Calvary was helicoptered in an they marched in to relieve them. Unfortunately they were ambushed at their LZ (LZ Albany) and they took more KIA than Moore’s battalion. We started the body count strategy and ten years later we lost the war
During the Broken Arrow, you see all kinds of aircraft, from all branches.
The A-1 Skyraider prop planes
What looks like A-4 Skyhawks or a stand-in
A-6 Intruders, probably off a carrier
F5s
Others I probably missed
Enjoyed this reaction... and am glad it was you guys that did it. Usually really enjoy the reactions on this channel, but recently tried watching the reaction to Glory and had to turn it off after a couple minutes. Making jokes during the opening Antietam scene and also during the following scene with the soldier getting his leg sawed off really didn't sit well with me. Some movies, particularly movies like this and Glory, deserve more respect. I'm glad you guys treated it well.
Great review and reaction. You didn't politicize your take on the movie. You saw it as a strictly war movie with human elements. Soldiers follow a kill or be killed. They may not hate the enemy. But, they want to survive so hopefully can return home alive.
I'd like to make a few movie suggestions, No spoilers except the major star, film title and release year. Ok war
* Patton (1970) George C. Scott (WWII)
* Battle of the Bulge (1965) Henry Fonda (WWII)
* Battle of Britain (1969) 13 Top British stars (WWII)
* Joyeux Noel (2005) Foreign film (WWI)
* Midway (1976) Charlton Heston (WWII)
* In Harm's Way (1965) John Wayne (WWII)
* The Longest Day (1962) w/ 42 international stars (WWII)
* Green Berets (1968) John Wayne (Vietnam War)
* MacArthur (1977) Gregory Peck (WWII, Korean War)
* To Hell And Back (1955) Audie Murphy (WWII)
* Glory (1989) Matthew Broderick (Civil War)
* Go For Broke (1951) Van Johnson (WWII)
* Valkyrie (2009) Tom Cruise (WWII)
* Twelve O'Clock High ( 1949) Gregory Peck (WWII)
* The Hunt For Red October ( 1990) Sean Connery
* Courage Under Fire (1996) Denzel Washington
* Taking Chance (2009) Kevin Bacon (Iraq)
You guys were man enough to film yourselves shedding tears for our men. Respect.
John you're a true empath, don't let anyone tell you that this is a bad thing. We need more people like you
I worked crew on this at Fort Benning, GA. I have a ton of memories from it all.
You're my favorite doctor on RUclips! Love your style, your compassion, your mad skills! Thank you for indulging my effed-up obsession 😅
That is the General Electric M134 Minigun. It fires standard NATO 7.62mm x 51mm FMJ rifle rounds at a variable rate of 2,000-6,000 rounds per min. When equipped on the AC-47 it was known in vietnam as "Puff the magic dragon" as it breathed fire and turned anything in its crosshairs to a red smoke/mist... a.k.a. "The only thing that scared the VC". It's slightly older cousin which was much heavier was used in many fighter aircraft was the M61 Vulcan which fired the 20mm x 102mm round at 6,000+/min. That later lead to the GAU/8 Avenger which is the 30mm x 173mm that gives the A-10 its BRRRRRRP.
Which War Movie has the BEST Characters / Characterization?
Pearl Harbor is my favorite war movie ❤ Josh Hartnet and Ben Affleck are amazing in it! I was born on December 7th so I watch it every year
It comes down to 3 for me; Saving Privte Ryan, We Were Soldiers, and Wind Talkers"
Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers the HBO show
@@marlainalindsey3279Pearl Harbor? Well, I guess if you want more Hollywood and not realness then yeah.
@@bigrazo5098Also Band of Brothers
The song sung by the Scottish man is called Sgt Mackenzie
3:07 not to insult anyone, but Vietnam is a big deal in U.S. history and I guess they teached you a lot about it at school. Do they really ignore the circumstances that lead to the Vietnam War? Like the fact that part of the world was a French colony?
Yes. In fact in public schooling Vietnam is barely discussed. American pride doesn't let us talk about our losses. American education is a joke. Children are being taught that natives GAVE us their land and completely cut out trail of tears. The American school system is a cattle system just training them to be a lackey for the workforce. Teaching independent thinking isn't on the top of the list
To be honest yes. A lot of the wars we were involved in post ww2 get completely divorced from reality when taught in our classrooms. They way I was taught was that after world War 2,Russia and America fought a proxy war across the world and would respectively back any country that declared itself either communist or democratic.
This meant that when communist aligned north Vietnam attacked south Vietnam America had to go and stop communist aggression and create a safe area for democracy to take hold in the region.
Now obviously that's nonsense but I was 25 when I first saw this movie and that's exactly when I found out that Vietnam had been colonized by the French.
1:38:53
Adapt or die.
I don't know if yall mentioned this.... but that charge he led towards the enemy camp...was in a way.. just like Custer's charge and you see Gibson's eyes widen as he realizes the situation while running up that hill....a great moment. And then the cavalry.... saves their butts.
Great movie 4 stars. When the officers leave in the middle of the night. And when the wounded soldiers return to the states and no one greets them in the airport, won’t ever not hit me hard.
Interesting to note Fort Benning where they trained in this movie (and real life) was then renamed Fort Moore after Colonel Hal Moore
I watched this movie with my dad ( a marine vet from Desert Storm) a lot as a kid. I love it!
"You wanna know how Custer felt? Go ask him."
Just a correction for you. You made a comment about the draft near the end of the film. This didn't apply to this battle, since the draft wasn't enacted until after the Tet Offensive in 1968.
Seen many reactions to this - this is absolutely right up there with the very best
34:08 "Danger Close" for 105mm artillery shells and similar ordnance is 600 meters. Meaning you are taking a huge gamble calling in a strike closer than 600 m from where you are. You had better stay down or get caught in the shrapnel yourself.
Instruments in Wartime (Drums, Bugle, etc...) were used to command troop movements. The human voice isn't loud enough to cover a battlefield so they would use instruments to signal charge, retreat, flank, Artillery, Calvery, etc..
The patches on the right sleeve indicate service in combat with that particular unit. The patch on the left sleeve is the unit they are currently assigned to.
I served as a cavalry scout for eight years. I was part of Garry Owen during OIF. It’s a trip being such a part of a unit’s history. It’s the best part of the military, how much they pass on history. I was a kid wearing that unit flash on my beret.
my grandfather was in the 3 deployments back in '65 to '70 as part of the sea bees and he passed last year. Thankfully he held onto alot of pictures from when he was there and I was able to see what it was through his eyes even tho he didnt want to share his experiences. RIP Pop Pop
My dad was in the Army and flew Bird Dogs in Vietnam until he got himself shor down (WIA - rescued).
ANYWAY - one time, while at the airbase, there was a big commotion, with lots of people heading to the landing strip to meet inbound helicopters. The helos were emptied and my dad went to check out what had happened. He told me that, as he got close, he could see both pilots, crying. He said he just turned and walked away.
As a newer generation of veteran, these reactions really give us a feel for how civilians look at us while we are in a combat zone. Great reaction guys.
If the movie depicted the mai ling massacre or the mass rape by american soldiers during that war
The reaction might be quite different.
And neither Afghanistan or Iraq has done much to mprove the US armies image and reputation world wide
As civilian killers.
Don't know how I never came across you two before. Well done. Subscribed.
Something you need to know about the timeline of this event in the Vietnam war....
The battle took place in 1965. The first Draft for US service in Vietnam took place Dec 1 1969.
ALL these men were Volunteers.
The Draftee element does not enter into the equation for another 4 years.
Every new battle is fought with the lessons learned from the past. Every battle also teaches new lessons that must be applied to the next battle. It is a measure of your will to be able to carry forward in the face of these adversities, To save who you can and to accomplish what you must.