Back when I was pledged for this, I decided to cancel my Mini Rogue pledge because I expected these two small box dungeon crawlers to be too similar. Afterwards I regretted backing out of Mini Rogue when it released since it seemed to be very much down my alley. I then decided to buy it and enjoyed it a ton. I then regretted backing tiny epic dungeons. Now that I’ve had a few games under my belt I’m glad I have both in my collection because they couldn’t be more different and both are really good for entirely different reasons. As you point out, this is game is crunchy and very puzzly while mini rogue is a great old school romp that is simple to play and much lighter in mechanics. Great review!
@@TheDungeonDive It’s so good. I just ordered the Old Gods promo for around $1 a card to be shipped from France and it seems 100% a worthwhile purchase based on how much I’ve enjoyed it.
oh man, if they come out with a compatible "overland" edition that includes "delve" tiles, those two tiny boxes would offer an amazing full blown adventure game! add a deck of "quests" and town mechanics.
Good review. Disagree about the player meeples but it's personal preference as you say. Given how many there are already, if you add in the player ones, I think it would be hard to make out which was which. Even just having to looking through the minion ones when they come out, it can be hard to pick out the right one. I did paint my minis which makes really stand out on the board and in the box. Seeing your Boss meeples in there as well though, I have to say I wish I'd gone for that add on too.
I hate painting. That’s not the hobby I signed up for. I spend 30-40 hours a week learning, playing, and covering games. Don’t need another thing to do on top of that.
I use the appendix only to learn how to read the icon, after that I prefer using icon rather than appendix. Because there's few explanation in the appendix that doesn't fit the icon like in pockey goblin, the appendix said if there's 2 goblin in the dungeon, you get 3 damage.
Agree with the meeple statement. The wooden pieces are better than the plastic. It might change, depending upon the skill of the painter, but, out of the box, the wood is better than the plastic.
Great video! However, I love the minis and will sub meeples with other minis in the future. My gaming group treat the icon decoding as a mini game. It is rewarding to read everything without the appendix. We love this game.
Backed out of this one on Kickstarter but your review allows me to rethink it. I'll have to check my local shop for it. The last epic I played was defenders.
Aboslutelly agree. Those meeples are great, look at that Gorgon! I have just recently bought a miniature-less copy of Warhammer Quest Cursed City and made a bunch of standees with clasic GW art and it looks so much better. The game looks pretty fun too :)
@@sethpeterson8261 But ofcourse!! that game was about 150£ and contains around 300£ on miniatures, and it was very exclusive. A lot of people get big quickstaters with lot of minis like Conan or Bloodborne, only to sell the individual miniatures (and I mean individual, like one minion 12£). Just take a quick look in Ebay XD we live in a madly capitalist world Im afraid. I must say...some of the miniatures of Cursed city are probably the best looking miniatures GW have ever produced. Just too much plastic for me XD
Nice review. Looks like a game I would gladly play but wouldn't own I think. First game I bought was Tiny Epic Galaxies so the name Tiny Epic does have some nostalgia every time I see it.
This one I am waiting for. Aparently it will be coming to my country from the hand of Devir... it's an instabuy for me. And I concur... wooden meeples all the way 😎
Hi! I am sorry but I disagree about your thoughts on Meeple vs Miniatures. Yes, those Miniatures are not that great but better than then Meeples for me. I have painted the miniatures and they look nice, better than the well-looking Meeples. I totally agree that the game is hard to win. The difficulty decreases with a higher Heroes count though, I only managed to win when playing with 4 Heroes and got really near to win with 3 Heroes. It is really incredible how GG managed to design such a good game in such a tiny format, I love it, a good game to take with you when you need to travel. As always...thanks for the videos!!
I agree. I'm not even a good painter, but I enjoy it. Having the painted plastic heroes on the play field is a nice contrast to all the baddies made of wood. I wouldn't change a thing.
Do you know if the boss meeples are in the retail version or is this deluxe? I’d understood the minions have meeples like that but the boss is just the boss mat + the generic boss token
Yay! A tiny dungeon crawler game! Two things: is it playable solo and two can its materials be used for solo rpgs? Also i dont mind the minis for heroes as i could use it for rpgs. The only issue now is that it could be confused for Gallant Knight Game's tiny dungeons.
It’s pretty safe to assume that every game I talk about on the channel can be played solo, unless I specifically mention it can’t be. 95% of all my gaming is done solo. :)
@@TheDungeonDive I see. I wanna get this game and combine it with other games to work for non-dungeon crawl sections while still using D6s. What would you recommend me trying to check out that i could run alongside tiny epic dungeons that still uses only d6s? I assume not tiny epic adventures.
Couldn't agree more about the plastic minis. Nothing I hate more than visual disconnect between game components. I'd rather have all the heroes as meeples, sure it would look better and cost cheaper for the developers to produce.
After 3 games I think I like it, but it seems surprisingly convoluted, for what is essentially a pretty simple game. The icons and their usage is particularly meh. Most of the time spent playing isn't spent feeling like your crawling a dungeon and deciding how to battle, opening chests etc... but rather people trying to decipher the iconography heiroglyphics
@@TheDungeonDive Yeah. We played all 3 games without it (lost every time too, ha!). Didn't even know there was an appendix until someone mentioned it on BGG about an hour ago. Printed it out as a small booklet that fits in the box. This game is a perfect example of why explanatory text written on cards is far better than pure icons. Not only can it be more thematic, but it's more clear
@@TheDungeonDive I would disagree. I think the usage of icons really simplifies the game vs having lots of text. Yes, in the first game it can be a bit of referring back and forth but after my first games I could understand what the cards did without even needing to check the rules for reference.
This game is kind of way too hard too be honest. I don't even know how anyone could defeat the goblin king when it just kept on spawning goblin and regenerating I wonder if there is anyway to balance it more
On my phone, the video title was shortened to "An abundance of Icons, Decisions, Challenge and Dung..." I thought either the game had a sophmoric theme or you were calling the game crap :D
I have to disagree. While I like the Meeples, I don't find the miniatures boring at all. Personally I prefer the miniatures. But to each their own. I love this game.
@@TheDungeonDive it's all preference. I didn't mean to sound derogatory in my last comment if it came off that way. Apologies if it did. I love this channel and FB group, btw. Keep up the great work. Your opinion and reviews have helped me in a lot of game purchases.
I only have Tiny Epic Quests. I didn't like it..... Made me dislike all the game series of this title. But I think I am very interested in this new one. Looks very different and nice. The addition of the minis helps for me. Because I hate meeples...
Imagine being a table top hobbyist and complaining about minis. My brother in CHRIST you are meant to fucking paint them. I see a game with meeples and I immediately check out mentally.
i don't think this is my game.... I have Tiny Epic Galaxy and Tiny Epic Zombies so far... both of these games are nice and small and simple... perfect for travelling and also to make a small game quickly... "Tiny Epic Dungeon looks like a really big DC to me.... and then I can play a big DC right away.... somehow the "Tiny" aspect is no longer there for me. It could be that it is a great game and for me then too little Tiny and too much Icons/ Appendix/ Space consuming... :) Thanks for the great review and now I am 100% sure that this is not for me :)
@@TheDungeonDive Yea... that's another thing... i guess it's a fine game... and not for me :). Thank you anyways i love your reviews or "look at the game" type of videos... very good :)
After trying a couple games w/3 players, I was checking these vids to see if we we're doing something wrong, or if the game really is this insanely difficult. It's fun, but geesh.. even looting a potion "reward" can wipe out the party. Armor seems irrelevant since 90% of the damage you take is from counterattacks which you can't mitigate. And that torch counts down so fast! Has anyone here actually beat it? It seems like a great game otherwise. Maybe we'll cheat and handicap ourselves next try.
It took me a few goes to beat it playing solo with two characters. Then I had a short run of victories and got cocky which led to another run of losses before I won again. It's a finely balanced challenge and certain characters work better with others.
@@dorkangel1076 on my 3rd game, we figured out a couple things we were doing wrong. We originally thought enemy counter-attacks affected every player, not just the one attacking. One thing the rules didn't make clear - do you get the extra focus/heart bonuses from unused dice on an attack? It says you get them on skill checks, but it's worded like attacks also count as "skills." We assumed you don't get them on trap-avoid checks.
@@andyfleck9223 Yes, any roll made using the skill dice is a "skill check" regardless of why you make it and has the chance of adding focus or health if it succeeds and you have unused dice. Also being aware when the minions are going to start coming out is helpful as they only have a chance to appear after a certain of cards have been put out. You want to be a little tooled up before that happens. Even how you build the dungeon matters so you don't leave yourselves too spread out and having to face a minion alone when it appears.
Hey there; super late to the party, but I'm here to tell you that the game is definitely beatable - my wife and I have beat it 2 of the 3 times we've played together. The game definitely rewards taking your time and running out the clock so that you can maximize the amount of loot you go into Act 2 with. Also, taking a mix of characters is a good idea - magic users make goblin management much easier in the first half, and can chip away at the boss while melee characters tank in the second.
Link to appendix.
drive.google.com/file/d/1j5nLboy-t2-E66qbHaGI4-yh9OUdyZ1I/view
Thanks!
It says the file doesn't exist. Sad!
Was this it? drive.google.com/file/d/1p1E_LOM4v2dhMe1h4EOCnYR9CWFHhU3T/view
Back when I was pledged for this, I decided to cancel my Mini Rogue pledge because I expected these two small box dungeon crawlers to be too similar. Afterwards I regretted backing out of Mini Rogue when it released since it seemed to be very much down my alley. I then decided to buy it and enjoyed it a ton. I then regretted backing tiny epic dungeons. Now that I’ve had a few games under my belt I’m glad I have both in my collection because they couldn’t be more different and both are really good for entirely different reasons. As you point out, this is game is crunchy and very puzzly while mini rogue is a great old school romp that is simple to play and much lighter in mechanics. Great review!
I love Mini Rogue. It's a game I think of often.
@@TheDungeonDive It’s so good. I just ordered the Old Gods promo for around $1 a card to be shipped from France and it seems 100% a worthwhile purchase based on how much I’ve enjoyed it.
I'll buy anything they release for the game.
Lolll " Discount on icons!!! Lets put a whole bunch of them!!" " You get an icon, You get an icon, you get an icon" Thanks for the review!
Finally got this to the table last night. All I got to say is: Icons, Ucons, Wecon all agree there's too many icons.
oh man, if they come out with a compatible "overland" edition that includes "delve" tiles, those two tiny boxes would offer an amazing full blown adventure game! add a deck of "quests" and town mechanics.
Good review. Disagree about the player meeples but it's personal preference as you say. Given how many there are already, if you add in the player ones, I think it would be hard to make out which was which. Even just having to looking through the minion ones when they come out, it can be hard to pick out the right one. I did paint my minis which makes really stand out on the board and in the box.
Seeing your Boss meeples in there as well though, I have to say I wish I'd gone for that add on too.
I LOVE the iconography in this game.
Paint them!!!! They look so good once painted!!!!
I hate painting. That’s not the hobby I signed up for. I spend 30-40 hours a week learning, playing, and covering games. Don’t need another thing to do on top of that.
Also, painted minis will never look as good as standees with art that actually matches the game.
When I finally get my coffee I’m going to really appreciate how good this video is.
Thank you.
I use the appendix only to learn how to read the icon, after that I prefer using icon rather than appendix. Because there's few explanation in the appendix that doesn't fit the icon like in pockey goblin, the appendix said if there's 2 goblin in the dungeon, you get 3 damage.
Colorfull Art is what pops out of the video all the way. Happy to see it is fun and interesting and so beautiful on the table.
Agree with the meeple statement. The wooden pieces are better than the plastic. It might change, depending upon the skill of the painter, but, out of the box, the wood is better than the plastic.
Great video! However, I love the minis and will sub meeples with other minis in the future. My gaming group treat the icon decoding as a mini game. It is rewarding to read everything without the appendix. We love this game.
Sounds like a dreadful mini-game! ;)
Backed out of this one on Kickstarter but your review allows me to rethink it. I'll have to check my local shop for it. The last epic I played was defenders.
Humm thats funny I would have liked the Meeples to be plastic. Its my intention to get them painted.
Aboslutelly agree. Those meeples are great, look at that Gorgon! I have just recently bought a miniature-less copy of Warhammer Quest Cursed City and made a bunch of standees with clasic GW art and it looks so much better.
The game looks pretty fun too :)
Someone bought Cursed City just to steal all the mini's out of it? Ha!
@@sethpeterson8261 But ofcourse!! that game was about 150£ and contains around 300£ on miniatures, and it was very exclusive. A lot of people get big quickstaters with lot of minis like Conan or Bloodborne, only to sell the individual miniatures (and I mean individual, like one minion 12£). Just take a quick look in Ebay XD we live in a madly capitalist world Im afraid. I must say...some of the miniatures of Cursed city are probably the best looking miniatures GW have ever produced. Just too much plastic for me XD
Nice review. Looks like a game I would gladly play but wouldn't own I think. First game I bought was Tiny Epic Galaxies so the name Tiny Epic does have some nostalgia every time I see it.
Wow. I typically hate meeples but I 100% agree with you on this one. Amazing and evocative.
This one I am waiting for. Aparently it will be coming to my country from the hand of Devir... it's an instabuy for me. And I concur... wooden meeples all the way 😎
Hi! I am sorry but I disagree about your thoughts on Meeple vs Miniatures. Yes, those Miniatures are not that great but better than then Meeples for me. I have painted the miniatures and they look nice, better than the well-looking Meeples.
I totally agree that the game is hard to win. The difficulty decreases with a higher Heroes count though, I only managed to win when playing with 4 Heroes and got really near to win with 3 Heroes. It is really incredible how GG managed to design such a good game in such a tiny format, I love it, a good game to take with you when you need to travel. As always...thanks for the videos!!
I really hate plastic minis. :). It is a tough game! Looking forward to my first win.
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Until the mini has a badass paintjob
I still prefer standees with good art. Just not a fan of plastic minis.
@@TheDungeonDive And these mini's are tiny. Far smaller than any 28mm mini game out there.
I agree. I'm not even a good painter, but I enjoy it. Having the painted plastic heroes on the play field is a nice contrast to all the baddies made of wood. I wouldn't change a thing.
I've been playing this and comparing it to Dungeons of Infinity, trying to decide which I like better.
I am new to board game..What is the best dungeon crawler board game in your opinion?
My most recent top 10
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@@TheDungeonDive thank you
you're supposed to paint the paint grey miniatures and bring them to life
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@@TheDungeonDive wish YT would allow the gif. Would have loved to have seen it. Im sure it was funny.
I painted my minis like the art work and the minis looks that belong beautifully
Do you know if the boss meeples are in the retail version or is this deluxe? I’d understood the minions have meeples like that but the boss is just the boss mat + the generic boss token
Not sure. They came in their own package.
The big Boss meeplea are a separate add-on that gives every boss a special meeple. I normally hate meeples, but these ones are pretty cool.
Paint your minis. The wooden meeples suck.
I love your passion for this hobby! I hope you love your painted minis! Have a great day.
I'd rather have the hunk of gray plastics :) I'd enjoy painting them.
I think most people agree with you. :)
Yay! A tiny dungeon crawler game! Two things: is it playable solo and two can its materials be used for solo rpgs? Also i dont mind the minis for heroes as i could use it for rpgs.
The only issue now is that it could be confused for Gallant Knight Game's tiny dungeons.
It’s pretty safe to assume that every game I talk about on the channel can be played solo, unless I specifically mention it can’t be. 95% of all my gaming is done solo. :)
@@TheDungeonDive I see. I wanna get this game and combine it with other games to work for non-dungeon crawl sections while still using D6s. What would you recommend me trying to check out that i could run alongside tiny epic dungeons that still uses only d6s? I assume not tiny epic adventures.
I'm torn between this and Masmorra, any thoughts? This does look pretty awesome!
I think this is much better than Masmorra.
Couldn't agree more about the plastic minis. Nothing I hate more than visual disconnect between game components. I'd rather have all the heroes as meeples, sure it would look better and cost cheaper for the developers to produce.
I cancelled my pledge for this one, but it looks like it could be fun. In general, I’m been cutting down on the number of games I buy.
This game offers a lot in a small box, so I enjoy that.
After 3 games I think I like it, but it seems surprisingly convoluted, for what is essentially a pretty simple game.
The icons and their usage is particularly meh. Most of the time spent playing isn't spent feeling like your crawling a dungeon and deciding how to battle, opening chests etc... but rather people trying to decipher the iconography heiroglyphics
I’m really not sure how anyone would know how to play without that appendix.
@@TheDungeonDive Yeah. We played all 3 games without it (lost every time too, ha!). Didn't even know there was an appendix until someone mentioned it on BGG about an hour ago. Printed it out as a small booklet that fits in the box.
This game is a perfect example of why explanatory text written on cards is far better than pure icons. Not only can it be more thematic, but it's more clear
@@TheDungeonDive I would disagree. I think the usage of icons really simplifies the game vs having lots of text. Yes, in the first game it can be a bit of referring back and forth but after my first games I could understand what the cards did without even needing to check the rules for reference.
I wish I could just buy the meeples. :-/
Can you play it solo with 4 heroes?
Yep.
@@TheDungeonDive how hard is it to control 4 heroes?
Don’t know.
This game is kind of way too hard too be honest. I don't even know how anyone could defeat the goblin king when it just kept on spawning goblin and regenerating
I wonder if there is anyway to balance it more
On my phone, the video title was shortened to "An abundance of Icons, Decisions, Challenge and Dung..." I thought either the game had a sophmoric theme or you were calling the game crap :D
Lol. :)
Wow. I was in until you showed me the icons. 🍺🤪🤔💀🥶🎩🍓🕹🧸
I have to disagree. While I like the Meeples, I don't find the miniatures boring at all. Personally I prefer the miniatures. But to each their own. I love this game.
Nice! Most people agree with you. :)
@@TheDungeonDive it's all preference. I didn't mean to sound derogatory in my last comment if it came off that way. Apologies if it did. I love this channel and FB group, btw. Keep up the great work. Your opinion and reviews have helped me in a lot of game purchases.
Oh no! Not at all. Didn't come off that way at all. :)
I only have Tiny Epic Quests.
I didn't like it.....
Made me dislike all the game series of this title.
But I think I am very interested in this new one.
Looks very different and nice.
The addition of the minis helps for me.
Because I hate meeples...
Imagine being a table top hobbyist and complaining about minis. My brother in CHRIST you are meant to fucking paint them.
I see a game with meeples and I immediately check out mentally.
I love your passion for plastic!
i don't think this is my game.... I have Tiny Epic Galaxy and Tiny Epic Zombies so far... both of these games are nice and small and simple... perfect for travelling and also to make a small game quickly...
"Tiny Epic Dungeon looks like a really big DC to me.... and then I can play a big DC right away.... somehow the "Tiny" aspect is no longer there for me.
It could be that it is a great game and for me then too little Tiny and too much Icons/ Appendix/ Space consuming... :)
Thanks for the great review and now I am 100% sure that this is not for me :)
It is tiny in that it fits in a small box, so that’s good. But it does take up some table space.
@@TheDungeonDive Yea... that's another thing... i guess it's a fine game... and not for me :). Thank you anyways i love your reviews or "look at the game" type of videos... very good :)
I like the game, but Im turned off a bit by the cartoon art work. And how did you get the boss meeples? I didn't see those during the campaign.
They were a KS add-on.
I remember the bgg drama that ensued around this game due to the lack of inclusivity.
Yes. They addressed it well. Glad all that happened. Makes people think about how they represent different kinds of people.
After trying a couple games w/3 players, I was checking these vids to see if we we're doing something wrong, or if the game really is this insanely difficult. It's fun, but geesh.. even looting a potion "reward" can wipe out the party. Armor seems irrelevant since 90% of the damage you take is from counterattacks which you can't mitigate. And that torch counts down so fast! Has anyone here actually beat it? It seems like a great game otherwise. Maybe we'll cheat and handicap ourselves next try.
It’s super difficult. Maybe too difficult.
It took me a few goes to beat it playing solo with two characters. Then I had a short run of victories and got cocky which led to another run of losses before I won again. It's a finely balanced challenge and certain characters work better with others.
@@dorkangel1076 on my 3rd game, we figured out a couple things we were doing wrong. We originally thought enemy counter-attacks affected every player, not just the one attacking. One thing the rules didn't make clear - do you get the extra focus/heart bonuses from unused dice on an attack? It says you get them on skill checks, but it's worded like attacks also count as "skills." We assumed you don't get them on trap-avoid checks.
@@andyfleck9223 Yes, any roll made using the skill dice is a "skill check" regardless of why you make it and has the chance of adding focus or health if it succeeds and you have unused dice. Also being aware when the minions are going to start coming out is helpful as they only have a chance to appear after a certain of cards have been put out. You want to be a little tooled up before that happens. Even how you build the dungeon matters so you don't leave yourselves too spread out and having to face a minion alone when it appears.
Hey there; super late to the party, but I'm here to tell you that the game is definitely beatable - my wife and I have beat it 2 of the 3 times we've played together. The game definitely rewards taking your time and running out the clock so that you can maximize the amount of loot you go into Act 2 with. Also, taking a mix of characters is a good idea - magic users make goblin management much easier in the first half, and can chip away at the boss while melee characters tank in the second.
Difficult icons? Total BS - 95% are intuitive and self explonatory, startong with mixy
I love your passion for this game!
LMAO at the meeple vs plastic miniature sarcasm.
(If it wasnt sarcasm it becomes more funny how your mentality about board games is)
I prefer standees and meeples and don't like plastic miniatures.