Steve Kornacki and Chuck Todd give an early look at the 2024 Senate map

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  • Опубликовано: 19 апр 2023
  • NBC News National Political Correspondent Steve Kornacki joins Chuck Todd at the big board to detail how the presidential election gives clear inferences on who retains control of Congress in 2024.
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  • @RealJackHQ
    @RealJackHQ Год назад +552

    If Dems win the House and the GOP win the Senate in 2024, we can officially declare ourselves the Musical Chairs of America.

    • @jediskunk67
      @jediskunk67 Год назад +10

      😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

    • @garystahler9112
      @garystahler9112 Год назад

      LOL. CLOWN. Your ignorance is astounding.

    • @etchedinstone7562
      @etchedinstone7562 11 месяцев назад +8

      It would be also the flipside of 2010 when the Republicans scored extremely well in House races but largely washed out in the Senate cycle. Races they had in the bag in Nevada and Delaware were botched by inept Tea Party candidates. The strange thing now is that polarizing Republican candidates are doing better than terrible in the Senate cycle but often getting their clocks cleaned in the House. Congressional districts are smaller and you would think more ideological but they've proven surprisingly resilient against this Stop the Steal rhetoric.

    • @disgruntledpelican5660
      @disgruntledpelican5660 10 месяцев назад +10

      Stomp the GOP out of politics, they have the Court, please let us not give them Congress and the White House

    • @garystahler9112
      @garystahler9112 10 месяцев назад +7

      @disgruntledpelican5660 Lol. Libs are going to cry.

  • @daytrading1012
    @daytrading1012 Год назад +305

    More Steve Kornacki! We don't want to wait 1.5 years to see him again

    • @TrainsFerriesFeet
      @TrainsFerriesFeet Год назад +7

      Steve's looking jacked these days.

    • @John-ym9ic
      @John-ym9ic Год назад +15

      i’m not a fan of msnbc but steve is iconic

    • @thisguy6177
      @thisguy6177 Год назад +2

      @@John-ym9ic And he's hot

    • @Bryan-yf5yq
      @Bryan-yf5yq Год назад

      We'll probably see him some time Tuesday for the KY Primaries and January when the 2024 Primaries start up

    • @Not_a_lier
      @Not_a_lier Год назад +1

      And in 2023 gubernational elections

  • @fdrstan
    @fdrstan Год назад +376

    Kansas voting against the abortion ban is a harbinger of things to come for the GOP.

    • @supernamek
      @supernamek Год назад +39

      Kansas is still a red state despite a majority voting against the abortion ban.

    • @somedude2433
      @somedude2433 Год назад

      Besides. The party lied to us on abortion anyway. Not surprisingly. We’ll say anything we’re so democratic now days.🙄

    • @Cubus-zapasowy
      @Cubus-zapasowy Год назад +36

      In Kansas most people vote for GOP out of custom. In the same year as abortion referendum, Republican candidate was elected with 60% of the vote.

    • @johnbrowneyes7534
      @johnbrowneyes7534 Год назад

      It’s interesting how some Republican states voted to keep Roe v Wade, yet they vote for the same folks who want to ban it. Never underestimate American stupidity.

    • @SwiftJustice
      @SwiftJustice Год назад

      @@Cubus-zapasowy Gen Z is standing back and standing by.
      The GOP is already dead.

  • @breal7277
    @breal7277 Год назад +342

    California, with 40 million people, has the same number of senators as Wyoming, with only half million. Absolute insanity is what that is.

    • @robertfootball1
      @robertfootball1 Год назад

      We aren’t a democracy, that’s why it doesn’t make sense to you. We are a constitutional REPUBLIC.

    • @franklin9400
      @franklin9400 Год назад +116

      Not really. If you understand our system of government. They get their huge influence in the House of Representatives. The Senate. Was meant for common sense. Equal Representation of each member of the union. With a super majority needed to change laws for the whole. Not just a simple majoirty. That would leave our country rapidly and dramatically changing. As the different parties won majorities in each branch or institution. Constantly swinging dramatically one way, and back the other over time.

    • @braddavid902
      @braddavid902 Год назад +53

      But California gets 52 seats in the house and Wyoming has one.

    • @ericinman9245
      @ericinman9245 Год назад +3

      Electoral votes. California, if flipped, dooms Democrats.

    • @Cubus-zapasowy
      @Cubus-zapasowy Год назад +46

      Texas and Florida has the same number of senators as Vermont or Delawere.
      It goes both ways.

  • @paulcreese7682
    @paulcreese7682 Год назад +261

    Didn't they predicted a massive red wave in 2022? How did that actually turned out?

    • @Youdidnthearme
      @Youdidnthearme Год назад

      Womens right to choose blocked the red wave

    • @morgana9832
      @morgana9832 Год назад +54

      it was a massive sprinkle

    • @Cubus-zapasowy
      @Cubus-zapasowy Год назад +99

      It didn't happen, because Republicans nominated several extreme election deniers for candidates in key races.
      Best example is Georgia - Herschel Walker lost a senate election, when Brian Kemp comfortably won governor election by 7,5%.

    • @anthonynosike
      @anthonynosike Год назад +28

      @@Cubus-zapasowy Also because of lack of funding from the GOP, mitch and lindsay gotta go

    • @Cubus-zapasowy
      @Cubus-zapasowy Год назад +9

      @@anthonynosike Lol. Check the finances of Republican and Democrat branches in these states

  • @HKim0072
    @HKim0072 Год назад +53

    Way way too early.

    • @decathreat6194
      @decathreat6194 Год назад

      How

    • @seanslawson98
      @seanslawson98 Год назад +1

      @@decathreat6194because like he said it’s still 500 days away, anything can happen, incumbents may consider not running which changes up the way people vote, there could be a major political swing in either direction, and depending on who the nominees are for president, could determine split ticketing

    • @decathreat6194
      @decathreat6194 Год назад

      @@seanslawson98 ya but no harm looking at it

  • @MJ-xj2tz
    @MJ-xj2tz Год назад +34

    Definitely not voting G uns O ver P eople

    • @Reaper-cm4jr
      @Reaper-cm4jr Год назад +7

      Yes. Definitely vote democRAT.

    • @roshandinesh6701
      @roshandinesh6701 Год назад

      ​@@Reaper-cm4jr why , they are ruining usa . Can't you see it , why are lying to yourself

    • @RealJackHQ
      @RealJackHQ Год назад +3

      @@Reaper-cm4jr What’s wrong with rats? You’re missing out on all the Ratatouille!

    • @idkwhatsgoingon4584
      @idkwhatsgoingon4584 Год назад

      ​@@RealJackHQ yeah, a bunch of French people died from who knows what diseases at the end of that movie

    • @RealJackHQ
      @RealJackHQ Год назад

      @@idkwhatsgoingon4584 Did you not see the giant steam washing machine that all the rats like Emil entered? The patrons will be fine.

  • @peterjermey7235
    @peterjermey7235 Год назад +109

    Susan Collins won by agreeing with her Democratic challenger on every issue and even dressing like her so that the only choice was whether to keep seniority or not

    • @Winspur1982
      @Winspur1982 Год назад

      yeah, it's sad how many voters (particularly older ones) can be fooled by cosplaying someone in the opposite party. Trump looked just barely enough like President JFK in 2016 to take advantage of this. The guy helping Kevin Mccarthy out in his press conferences right now is trying *very hard* to look like Harry Truman.

    • @tobiasdubose8812
      @tobiasdubose8812 Год назад +19

      Susan Collins voting to not confirm Amy Coney Barrett is the only thing that saved her job as a US Senator from Maine

    • @peterjermey7235
      @peterjermey7235 11 месяцев назад

      @@straightopoint any more conservative and she would not have won election. She only won the election by pretending to be a RINO

    • @diablo55
      @diablo55 11 месяцев назад +12

      @@straightopointcope

    • @joaovitormatos8147
      @joaovitormatos8147 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@straightopointsenators are not bound to their parties. If she's a RINO, then she should be an independent

  • @blackout07blue
    @blackout07blue Год назад +114

    All democrats have to do is have their incumbents win Montana & Ohio.... the Montana democrat has a 58% approval (5th most popular Senator in the nation) in that deep-red state. The ohio democrat is very popular too; honestly wish he'd run for President (Sherrod Brown). So that leaves Nevada which is a literal tossup where the democrat is the incumbent, and maybe Pennsylvania where the incumbent is a Democrat. Democrats more likely to lose Nevada than the other three, in my opinion.

    • @tracymorgan5386
      @tracymorgan5386 Год назад +7

      They already had the senate race in Nevada in 2022 and the democrat won. I’m I missing something

    • @Cubus-zapasowy
      @Cubus-zapasowy Год назад +23

      The fact that Brown is popular doesn't mean he would win.
      J.D. Vance was a bad candidate and Tim Ryan was a pretty strong candidate, and Vance still won by 6%. Ohio has gone too much to the right in last years for Brown to prevail.
      Tester can prevail, because he's fairly moderate, but it mostly depends on who Republican candidate would be.

    • @luvv4kevv
      @luvv4kevv Год назад +6

      ur delusional bc dems won nevada in a R+2 environment and montana and ohio and west virginia are very polarized

    • @Cubus-zapasowy
      @Cubus-zapasowy Год назад +10

      ​​@@tracymorgan5386 Democrats won the Senate race in Nevada, but on the same day lost Governor race in Nevada. Both elections were decided by less than 1%

    • @Cubus-zapasowy
      @Cubus-zapasowy Год назад

      @@luvv4kevv Based on what do you think environment was R+2?

  • @DimeDoppler
    @DimeDoppler Год назад +78

    Don't think any democrat would shed a tear if Manchin lost his seat.

    • @annem.parent8580
      @annem.parent8580 Год назад +7

      I feel the same. But there is always hope that a better Democratic candidate from his state takes over the office he held with a better perspective. He may not like it. Too Bad!!

    • @DimeDoppler
      @DimeDoppler Год назад +6

      @@annem.parent8580 I doubt it

    • @lukescribner9100
      @lukescribner9100 Год назад +10

      I don't like him, but I still want to Dem hold the Senate. Even that means have to Manchin in it

    • @DimeDoppler
      @DimeDoppler Год назад +7

      @@lukescribner9100 I'm not for vote blue no matter who. Him and Sinema only care about their corporate donors.

    • @lukescribner9100
      @lukescribner9100 Год назад +6

      @@DimeDoppler Sinema think will lose the primary. But I do think Dem keep Arizona.

  • @tobiasdubose8812
    @tobiasdubose8812 Год назад +45

    Susan Collins voting to not confirm Amy Coney Barrett is the only thing that saved her job as a US Senator from Maine

    • @joethomas6277
      @joethomas6277 11 месяцев назад

      It didn’t even matter. The Republicans didn’t need her vote to confirm Amy Coney Barrett. She and Mitch McConnell knew this. They knew her no vote on Justice Barrett would help her get re-elected. If her vote was actually needed, she would have voted to confirm.

    • @ericryanyawl9401
      @ericryanyawl9401 9 месяцев назад +2

      That blowfish makes me sick.

  • @DylanSalacia
    @DylanSalacia Год назад +6

    “Our ‘ *friend* ’ Susan Collins in Maine” 🤮

  • @SwiftJustice
    @SwiftJustice Год назад +56

    The red part of that map is called "American Carnage."

    • @debbie5728
      @debbie5728 Год назад +4

      Why? all the hauls from Ca, NY, Illinois, etc parked there?

    • @scotchbarrel4429
      @scotchbarrel4429 Год назад +8

      💯, a big red flag 😂

    • @lisaortiz635
      @lisaortiz635 Год назад

      No, the RED is red state pregnant women/girls bleeding out from forced births of the deformed fetuses of their rapists & the blood, pulverized organs & splintered bone of American citizens massacred in red state schools, shopping centers, churches, parks, etc, etc…✌️✌️🙄✌️👍🌊🇺🇸

    • @plightfoot8491
      @plightfoot8491 10 месяцев назад

      Just the opposite

  • @jish55
    @jish55 Год назад +65

    Texas I feel is one to watch for, because it has been gradually moving towards the center, especially with how many businesses are forcing people from blue states to move there (and yes, many who are moving to Texas aren't doing so because they want to, it's because it's for their job). So yeah, Texas may very well be shooting itself in the foot while bragging about getting people from California. Florida is iffy due to how although it's been gradually going more Red, DeSantis has been causing a lot of problems to the point it may very well be pushing people to move away from the Republican party.

    • @stephenflood5374
      @stephenflood5374 Год назад +15

      So what your actual saying is people and businesses are moving to red states cause they are better runned states ,

    • @losh330
      @losh330 Год назад +19

      ​@@stephenflood5374 You mean lower taxes

    • @tomrogue13
      @tomrogue13 Год назад +9

      Plus Cruz is up for reelection. He barely won last time. But i honestly don't see it flipping

    • @waylonbeasley1477
      @waylonbeasley1477 Год назад +6

      @@tomrogue13 He also has a very popular Democrat Colin Allred running against him. He’s a former football player who won his congressional seat in a red district against a Republican who had held that seat for 20 years.

    • @tomrogue13
      @tomrogue13 Год назад +2

      @@waylonbeasley1477 just read an article about that. We'll see how the primary goes cuz i think there's a few Dems looking to get in

  • @Mikestamper04
    @Mikestamper04 Год назад +14

    Love me some Steve kornacki.

  • @iluvbiggirlz420
    @iluvbiggirlz420 Год назад +38

    Steve hasn't changed his clothes since the Trump election lol

  • @robertarmstrong3286
    @robertarmstrong3286 Год назад +18

    I was thinking if we changed how we vote. The person or the issues…Promoting issue-oriented democracy requires a combination of structural changes and citizen engagement. Here are a few ideas that could help make democracy more focused on issues:
    1. Enhanced public education: Invest in civic education to ensure citizens have a solid understanding of key issues, policies, and their implications. This will enable voters to make informed decisions based on the substance of the issues at hand.
    2. Transparent campaign financing: Implement stricter regulations on campaign financing, ensuring transparency and reducing the influence of special interests. This can help prevent the distortion of issues and keep the focus on the merits of the policies being proposed.
    3. Issue-based political campaigns: Encourage political parties and candidates to prioritize issue-based campaigns, where they outline their positions on key policy areas and present their plans for addressing those issues. This approach would help voters evaluate candidates based on their stance on important matters rather than their personal attributes.
    4. Accessible information platforms: Establish user-friendly platforms that provide unbiased information on various issues, including pros and cons, potential consequences, and expert opinions. Such platforms could assist voters in understanding complex topics and making more informed choices.
    5. Open dialogues and debates: Foster a culture of open dialogues and substantive debates among candidates, policymakers, and citizens. Encourage discussions that delve into the details of different proposals, allowing for contrasting viewpoints and critical analysis.
    6. Participatory democracy: Explore mechanisms to enhance citizen participation in decision-making processes, such as public consultations, deliberative forums, and citizen juries. This can give individuals a direct say in shaping policies and ensure that their concerns and preferences are taken into account.
    By combining these approaches, we can shift the focus of democracy towards issues rather than personal attributes, empowering citizens to make choices based on their alignment with policy positions and the potential impact on society.

    • @Mdebacle
      @Mdebacle 11 месяцев назад +1

      A simpler solution would be ranked voting.

    • @c2757
      @c2757 11 месяцев назад

      All very simple and obvious until you give it some thought. One person's "education" is someone else's "indoctrination". The ideas listed are exactly a recipe for disaster.

    • @dporangecounty
      @dporangecounty 10 месяцев назад

      #5 is the biggest challenge proponents for change use adaptive Marxist techniques (when change is considered warfare from oppression, any tactic is justified).

    • @blackhand7294
      @blackhand7294 10 месяцев назад

      You're asking for too much there lol

    • @ianhines2302
      @ianhines2302 10 месяцев назад

      Did you use ChatGPT for this lol

  • @marsallen4298
    @marsallen4298 Год назад +8

    Is that Steve Kornacki without a piece of paper in his hand???

  • @just42day
    @just42day Год назад +5

    Blah blah blah blah… all these media outlets are now massive failures when it comes to forecasting🤷🏻‍♂️ just wait for people to vote. Mind conditioning these days isn’t that effective, unless you’re from the extreme “right”🤭

  • @Chiefs555
    @Chiefs555 Год назад +19

    Republicans have a very favorable Senate map in 2024.

  • @jameshurst6119
    @jameshurst6119 Год назад +19

    We heard all of that about the last election.

    • @lottasunshine1325
      @lottasunshine1325 Год назад

      Exactly, and there was no red wave.

    • @Cubus-zapasowy
      @Cubus-zapasowy Год назад +2

      In last election Republicans nominated several extreme candidates in key races. Now they know it was stupid and would not do this again.
      Mastriano (who lost Pennsylvania governor election by more than 10%) want to run for Senate this year, but this would be so bad, that even Trump wants to prevent it.

    • @jameshurst6119
      @jameshurst6119 Год назад

      @@Cubus-zapasowy I get where you're coming from, but that party is run by it´s extremes, and as is the case in the past, they have not learned their lesson. They will run a bunch of clowns. The tail is wagging the dog.

    • @idkwhatsgoingon4584
      @idkwhatsgoingon4584 Год назад

      ​@@Cubus-zapasowy he could run as a more moderate candidate this time

    • @Cubus-zapasowy
      @Cubus-zapasowy Год назад

      @@idkwhatsgoingon4584 Why would he?

  • @patricejeasley_1974
    @patricejeasley_1974 Год назад +48

    Don't underestimate the Democrats in 2024. This is going to be a very very different election than what these clowns are trying to predict.

    • @jish55
      @jish55 Год назад

      Yep, these last few years alone is getting a lot of young voters worried and in turn pushing them to start being a lot more proactive in fighting the Republican party so as to retain rights we all should have. I can honestly see more gen z and the start of gen alpha showing up in droves and pushing back along with a decent chunk of millennials.

    • @roshandinesh6701
      @roshandinesh6701 Год назад

      😂

    • @MrVandj1
      @MrVandj1 Год назад

      Dems have done nothing to help workers. Trump could very well win re election because of how bad Biden is.

    • @patricejeasley_1974
      @patricejeasley_1974 11 месяцев назад

      @@roshandinesh6701 Well, it will be funny.....win Republicans lose in 2024........🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🗳🌊🇺🇸💙🥊💯

  • @golybunne4306
    @golybunne4306 9 месяцев назад +1

    That’s a very scary situation.

  • @Starsfullaskies
    @Starsfullaskies Год назад

    Yay we love Steve

  • @cecilelaforce3686
    @cecilelaforce3686 Год назад +10

    Steve Kornacki!

  • @jasperjonkers3615
    @jasperjonkers3615 Год назад +17

    West Virginia is gone. I believe that by now, Jim Justice is more popular even among Democrats than Joe Manchin. The only way for Dems to get something out of West Virginia is for Manchin to run for governor again instead of senate.
    However, Montana and Ohio are a different story I think. Jon Tester is still highly popular, and Montana is less then half as republican as West Virginia. People tend to see both as solid republican states, but there is roughly an equal gap between Montana and Michigan as there is between Montana and West Virginia. (20 points one way or the other). And in Ohio, although Tim Ryan didn't win in 2022, there was arguably a lot of ticket splitting between the governors and senate race, with Ryan losing by 6 points and Whaley by 25.
    One last one that I'm (relatively) optimistic about is Missouri. Of course Josh Hawley is the clear favourite, but I still see a path to that becoming competitive. Politics can be about one image, and if used relentlessly and continuously by the right candidate, that image of Hawley running through congress halls could do some damage.
    Texas and Florida on the other hand, I'd be less optimistic about. Since that one upset with Beto, democrats haven't really succeeded in making Texas competitive, and now the republicans guard is fully up there. And democrats suffered historic losses only a few months ago in Florida.

    • @dvferyance
      @dvferyance Год назад

      Manchin can't run for Governor again. He is term limited there.

  • @chaoticallysay2625
    @chaoticallysay2625 Год назад +2

    We never know it's a freefall when I don't do their online polls

  • @Steve10926
    @Steve10926 11 месяцев назад +2

    Did y'al say Biden to win in 2024? Seriously?

  • @frankcarone3769
    @frankcarone3769 Год назад +10

    i guarantee ohio is going red and joe manchin is petrified of losing west virginia

    • @Djdreamstudios
      @Djdreamstudios Год назад

      Ohio is a maybe but Manchin is DOA

    • @Mikestamper04
      @Mikestamper04 Год назад +6

      I think Ohio stays blue in the senate but West Virginia goes red. As a democrat i don’t really care if Manchin wins or loses.

    • @Djdreamstudios
      @Djdreamstudios Год назад

      @@Mikestamper04 I agree Ohio is staying blue and West Virginia is going red

    • @jimbobjicckup5994
      @jimbobjicckup5994 Год назад +2

      Ohio is gone dude it’s a full boar maga state

    • @frankcarone3769
      @frankcarone3769 Год назад +2

      @@jimbobjicckup5994 ohio is trump country THANK GOD

  • @scotchbarrel4429
    @scotchbarrel4429 Год назад +27

    How many of those red states are gerrymandered 😂

    • @staceymurray4740
      @staceymurray4740 Год назад

      All of them they are run by redudlicans!

    • @billhicks808
      @billhicks808 Год назад +19

      Senate races are state wide. House races are in districts which is why the GOP holds the house despite having a social minority.

    • @annem.parent8580
      @annem.parent8580 Год назад

      I live in Florida and I know that De-Santis did just that to win. Hillsborough and Pinellas Counties were always blue till he rewrote the maps. The DOJ told him he couldn't do that, but he did anyway!!!

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue Год назад +12

      Wisconsin is a good example of a gerrymandered state. Democrats & Republicans have roughly equal the same amount of voters...yet the districts are divided so Republicans win 8 seats and Dems only win 4 seats... and on the state-house & state-senate level, Republicans have super-majorities because it is so gerrymandered by republicans.

    • @heatherpayne1995
      @heatherpayne1995 Год назад +1

      Gerrymandering doesn't matter for statewide contests like the Senate.

  • @jrcapone1980
    @jrcapone1980 11 месяцев назад +2

    Things I trust more than NBC News:
    Gas station sushi.
    Ex Con babysitters.
    Kim Jong Un.
    Drug addicts.

  • @johng6637
    @johng6637 Год назад +59

    Steve Kornacki, the genius behind the 2016 analysis. Like bringing back Arnold Rothstein to umpire the World Series.

    • @neilbruce123
      @neilbruce123 10 месяцев назад +3

      Well he got 2020 right.

    • @francescofranchetti3856
      @francescofranchetti3856 9 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@neilbruce123rigged election obviously

    • @neilbruce123
      @neilbruce123 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@francescofranchetti3856 U THINK...DUH

    • @christianauldridge1264
      @christianauldridge1264 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@francescofranchetti3856true trump did try and rig it

    • @thewestisthebest6608
      @thewestisthebest6608 9 месяцев назад

      @@christianauldridge1264Obama 2008 got 10 million less votes than Biden in 2020
      10 million! I’m not a statistician but that’s rigged

  • @ModernCentrist
    @ModernCentrist Год назад +7

    Nothing like a good 2024 election breakdown 2 years out.

    • @efisgpr
      @efisgpr 9 месяцев назад

      Did they post this in November, 2022? No.

    • @caravanstuff2827
      @caravanstuff2827 9 месяцев назад

      Desperate to fill the 24 news cycle!!.❤️🇺🇲🇺🇦

  • @erichatu9352
    @erichatu9352 Год назад +18

    Blue Wave a coming in 2024😉👌👍 🇺🇸

    • @r.pres.4121
      @r.pres.4121 Год назад

      You cannot go by polls because voters are unpredictable.

    • @frankhanson2887
      @frankhanson2887 Год назад

      How are you doing 😘

  • @davidholder-oe1oe
    @davidholder-oe1oe 10 месяцев назад +1

    You people heard them so let's prove them wrong. If we all get out and vote will win almost the entire map.

  • @KCNwokoye
    @KCNwokoye Год назад +15

    Abortion. Abortion. Abortion. Human rights.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue Год назад +2

      Crime. The Wisconsin democrat judge who just won had the majority of her tv commercials be about NOT being soft on crime.

    • @Cubus-zapasowy
      @Cubus-zapasowy Год назад +3

      Vote for human rights. Save the babies :)

    • @user-oc8sr3ml9m
      @user-oc8sr3ml9m 4 месяца назад

      Need a kleenex?? Maybe a case??

  • @lukescribner9100
    @lukescribner9100 Год назад +31

    1Abortion right, 2 Gun control,3 economy, and 4 foreign affairs. I see Dem win back the Senate, but it's going to be close. I see a lot younger voters going to Dem in Red states.

    • @Cubus-zapasowy
      @Cubus-zapasowy Год назад +1

      Young voters are very small group of voters and are becoming smaller and smaller with each election, because people don;t want to have kids.

    • @eightlights4939
      @eightlights4939 Год назад

      I support abortion as its only bottom feeder democrats getting them, and we need less of those...

    • @MrVandj1
      @MrVandj1 Год назад

      Lol naw

    • @doh-nc8ku
      @doh-nc8ku Год назад +1

      Vocal minority there will never be enough to form a significant bloc to outweigh old republican voters

  • @markraby1665
    @markraby1665 Год назад +4

    In what universe is Minnesota a battleground state? 😂

    • @manbehindacameras1617
      @manbehindacameras1617 Год назад

      Clinton barely won it in 2016, plus rural voters are shifting away from Dems (See how they ousted Collin Peterson in 2020) and suburban voters are a swing (see how they ousted two republicans representatives in 2018) plus a near even parison lean.

  • @benardmakori6924
    @benardmakori6924 Год назад +8

    Steve dress code is same every day!Like it

  • @yvonneplant9434
    @yvonneplant9434 Год назад +11

    Kornaki never changes his clothes.

  • @mustafaa965
    @mustafaa965 Год назад +10

    Too early for these predictions!

  • @chuckersimsII
    @chuckersimsII Год назад +18

    Love both these guys

    • @stephenflood5374
      @stephenflood5374 Год назад +2

      Why they are a one sided media, America needs a independent news

    • @person-ce8cr
      @person-ce8cr 9 месяцев назад

      @@stephenflood5374 i agree but they are both numbers guys and numbers are fun

  • @fluorideenjoyer
    @fluorideenjoyer 11 месяцев назад

    there he is

  • @natesbored
    @natesbored Год назад +1

    And the stalemate continues. Throw them ALL out.

  • @gumbus75
    @gumbus75 Год назад +8

    God after this last house chaos, the speaker would have to commit giving up 1st borns to the crazies. Can't even imagine if all 3 are republican in its current state. Is it too much to ask no matter if blue or red that they are 'normal' in some respect?

  • @jacobwood1707
    @jacobwood1707 Год назад +9

    I don't know if I agree with the sentiments here. Trying to generalize Senate races in states that have completely different circumstances and contexts might not be the best analysis. West Virginia and Montana shouldn't be compared to one another like it's apples to apples

    • @Mdebacle
      @Mdebacle 11 месяцев назад +1

      With Trump on the ticket, don't see how any state he carries can elect a Democrat senator.

    • @nikhilnagboth8425
      @nikhilnagboth8425 11 месяцев назад +1

      The republican candidates running against Tester (Rosendale and Zinke) are some of the worst candidates Republicans could put. Zinke won by just 3 points in a solidly republican house district and Rosendale already lost to Tester in 2018. I could see Tester winning the senate race in Montana if either of them are the nominees.

    • @AnthonyJMurph
      @AnthonyJMurph 10 месяцев назад

      @@Mdebacle I think people think Tester is an adult and will actually sit and listen to his constituents. Montana seems to have some really bizarre Republicans.

    • @Mdebacle
      @Mdebacle 10 месяцев назад

      @@AnthonyJMurph The same was true of Bullock in 2020, but Trump was on the ballot.

  • @_RTheBruce
    @_RTheBruce 10 месяцев назад

    3:04 That is not Missouri LOL

  • @Momoeki21
    @Momoeki21 Год назад

    Well, that's depressing...

  • @shlby69m
    @shlby69m Год назад +13

    Politics are hard to follow, even more when two people talk over each other.

    • @kristinstrickland1038
      @kristinstrickland1038 11 месяцев назад

      It wasn't bad at all. They were great together - they seem like they enjoy talking to each to other. It was fun to see them so excited in their discussion!

  • @mattalford3932
    @mattalford3932 Год назад +3

    What about abortion though

    • @user-oc8sr3ml9m
      @user-oc8sr3ml9m 4 месяца назад

      Still being done every day. What about it.

  • @ehealthy222
    @ehealthy222 9 месяцев назад

    It wasn’t just Maine where they had split ticket voting. It was Georgia too. At least on election night, before the runoff.

  • @mattmiller9809
    @mattmiller9809 11 месяцев назад +2

    So best case scenario for Dems:
    Democratic President, House Democratic control and Senate Republican control
    Best case scenario for Republicans:
    Republicans control the House, Senate, and Presidency.
    That said, Manchin could win reelection and Trump Republicans seem to have a bad track record in swing states. Nothing is concrete. It all depends on the candidates.

  • @patrickc3419
    @patrickc3419 Год назад +3

    I’m staunchly conservative, but generally like Chuck Todd. Informed, smart guy.

  • @ricogutz104
    @ricogutz104 Год назад +11

    Thanks, Chuck & Steve. God, what a horror story.

  • @cp0515
    @cp0515 2 месяца назад +1

    PA has a very good chance of being one, with trump and casey winning

  • @sandraelliott6982
    @sandraelliott6982 9 месяцев назад

    I don’t believe you can predict it this far out

  • @thisismetoday
    @thisismetoday Год назад +16

    How is that even possible? Have Americans learnt nothing? I'm just....shocked watching from Europe

    • @johburale4991
      @johburale4991 Год назад

      We have a bias elctral map towards Republicans, the founding fathers fuct our democracy.

    • @Dyrtybyrdie
      @Dyrtybyrdie Год назад +5

      Trump will more than likely be the Republican nominee again and he will lose again in the general election. A third of Americans (die hard Trump supporters) refuse to let him go. It’s sick.

    • @eightlights4939
      @eightlights4939 Год назад +1

      @Will Guess you didnt enjoy the freat 4 years we had under Trump. Better keep voting Democrat because thats working for the state of the country

    • @MrVandj1
      @MrVandj1 Год назад

      @@Dyrtybyrdie trump got 74 million people to vote for him and dems can’t even raise the minimum wage.

    • @MrVandj1
      @MrVandj1 Год назад

      You probably have guaranteed healthcare. Americans have an economy shaped around the military industrial complex.

  • @Abcflc
    @Abcflc Год назад +9

    I don understand two things:
    1) why are there still so many people that don’t vote. 2) why are there so many people that still vote Republican after all of what they’ve done.

    • @planetary2180
      @planetary2180 Год назад +1

      people are delusional

    • @louismora8631
      @louismora8631 Год назад

      @@planetary2180 BEYOND DELUSIONAL, BYE BYE RIGHTS. DON'T SAY WE DIDN'T TELL YOU SO.

    • @elennet4116
      @elennet4116 Год назад +1

      It means you don't understand politics

    • @planetary2180
      @planetary2180 Год назад

      @@louismora8631 george bush already took your rights to privacy so its too late

    • @planetary2180
      @planetary2180 Год назад

      @@elennet4116 you wanna talk about that video in your channel

  • @CTDisqoTeck78
    @CTDisqoTeck78 Год назад +1

    The performative machinations of the drizzle sh*ts done live on television. If you ever needed an example. Watch 'Schmuck' Todd and 'Khakis' Kornacki performance of "how to sell me a bridge."

  • @roryfleming2320
    @roryfleming2320 Год назад

    People are forgetting about tennessee and what has been happening

  • @maz155.8
    @maz155.8 Год назад +47

    The electoral college should be modified. The fate of the nation should not rest on a handful of states with a fraction of the population.

    • @concernedbiker9414
      @concernedbiker9414 Год назад +17

      Modified? How about abolished?

    • @larrysernyk6154
      @larrysernyk6154 Год назад +15

      We need a national popular vote to elect president.

    • @concernedbiker9414
      @concernedbiker9414 Год назад +6

      @@larrysernyk6154 I lived in Idaho for years and never voted. What was the point? As a left leaning voter, your vote was never going to count there.

    • @annem.parent8580
      @annem.parent8580 Год назад +6

      @@larrysernyk6154 If that is the case then Clinton would have won over Trump in 2016. Now I wished for that too as well. We would have been better off knowing what we know now. I left the GOP after 40+ years to vote against him in 2020.

    • @concernedbiker9414
      @concernedbiker9414 Год назад +3

      @@BobPsomiadis Because the Founding Fathers weren't the geniuses we make them out to be? My idea is each state gets two senators. Each side gets to elect their own person. The power of each senator's vote is decided by how many people (percentage wise) vote Dem or Republican. So, a Democratic senator from California might have a vote of 1.3, while the Republican will have a vote of .7. Meanwhile a Democratic senator from Alabama will have a vote of 1.5, while the Dem senator will have a vote of .5.

  • @Joeyblackblue1408
    @Joeyblackblue1408 Год назад +3

    Trump 2024

  • @pathapongpradith3120
    @pathapongpradith3120 Год назад +1

    who ever can bring back great America with prosperity.. no protest... no mass shooting... No terriorism.... No drug problems... Homeless people have more presence mind and help America to be strong over and build up America to be N°1🎉🎉🎉

  • @YourFavoriteWasian
    @YourFavoriteWasian 10 месяцев назад +1

    The Senate shows our government at its most ineffective (both the rules and the people in it)

  • @bradferguson4771
    @bradferguson4771 Год назад +31

    I feel like they're expecting past turnout. The younger voters are much more likely to vote than ever before, especially when so many of their rights are being threatened in these red areas...

    • @lisaortiz635
      @lisaortiz635 Год назад

      Every time Republicans attempt to pass a law removing rights from the MAJORITY of We the People, youth/Democrat voter registration goes up, everywhere…I think red states are about to “find out” on 11/5/2024 what the MAJORITY of We the RATIONAL People think about losing our REAL freedoms, PERMANENTLY…👍✌️🌊🇺🇸

    • @davismiller4369
      @davismiller4369 Год назад +2

      Brad, how I hope you're right. How the entire world needs you to be right.

    • @marsallen4298
      @marsallen4298 Год назад

      Stop making enemies with the youth then🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @Cubus-zapasowy
      @Cubus-zapasowy Год назад +2

      You understand that young voters are becoming a smaller and smaller group with each election because of droping birth rate?

    • @marsallen4298
      @marsallen4298 Год назад +1

      @Cubus 211121 actually the amount of young voters has increased significantly against the republicans because of trump and abortion. The birth rate doesnt mean anything, the birth rate can fluctuate year by year.

  • @craigkdillon
    @craigkdillon 10 месяцев назад +14

    Why do the analysts now NEVER mention Roe V Wade and the abortion issue??
    It had huge impact in Kansas and Wisconsin.
    I think it will impact races across the country.

    • @rettbull9100
      @rettbull9100 10 месяцев назад +2

      because it's like what's going on in FL. Though the republican party isn't helping the state and desantis is fighting the 'woke' agenda. The state will re-election the same senator and rep even if they are the ones making and passing the bills to desantis.

    • @craigkdillon
      @craigkdillon 10 месяцев назад

      @@rettbull9100 Yep. American voters are often stupid.
      PS - I define "stupid" as a person who votes FOR people that ACT against that voter.
      Especially when the politician openly states what they want to do.
      For instance, Republicans have been openly trying to ban abortions. When they pass a law doing that, Republican women will get all upset, and THEN change vote Democrat.
      I call that stupid.

  • @michellenash301
    @michellenash301 Год назад +2

    My goodness how handsome is Steve Kornacki??? Lol ❤❤❤❤❤❤ Everytime I see him on TV i have to watch lol

  • @GAB8407
    @GAB8407 11 месяцев назад

    STEVE AND LESTER...ONLY reason to watch NBC/MSNBC😊

  • @michaelmaher4154
    @michaelmaher4154 Год назад +3

    With abortion and gun control under attack from both sides. It will be really hard to pick the next election. We don't know if both candidates will be alive by the time the election gets here. Will their running mate be a leader or a quota filler.

    • @claye323
      @claye323 Год назад +3

      What! abortion and gun control under attack from Both Sides? What am I missing here? I only see one side attacking abortion rights and one side attacking any attempt at gun control. The old “both sides” argument, it’s equally bad but mostly just wrong.

    • @eightlights4939
      @eightlights4939 Год назад

      @Claye I for one support abortion as only low income bottom feeding Democrats are the ones getting them and Lord knows we need less of them!

    • @adrianmyers6429
      @adrianmyers6429 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​​​@@claye323There's one side attacking gun rights 24/7

  • @stephenanderson1594
    @stephenanderson1594 Год назад +34

    Sorry the young people and women are going to give Biden another term and a Democratic House and Senate.

    • @fyourmoms1962
      @fyourmoms1962 Год назад

      Don’t forget the lgbtq community and the the black community probably the Asian community and anyone who has half a brain cell will all vote against the GQP. They don’t have a chance outside of the deep red states.

    • @spencerclay6271
      @spencerclay6271 Год назад +2

      Why? Do you want Trump or DeSantis?

    • @lawtraf8008
      @lawtraf8008 Год назад +2

      according to who ?

    • @oceanshrugs9235
      @oceanshrugs9235 Год назад +8

      Plus a lot of elderly GOP voters have passed away. Throw in the Gen Z that replaces that votes and that spells disaster for the GOP which is great for America!

    • @stephenflood5374
      @stephenflood5374 Год назад +2

      ​​@@oceanshrugs9235 is it really how's the finance for Americans as inflation is at an all time high

  • @JTurk331
    @JTurk331 10 месяцев назад

    Is that dave wallace from the office?

  • @nasa_sidthesciencekid3105
    @nasa_sidthesciencekid3105 4 месяца назад

    🙏Not we don’t need Craziness in our Government Enough is Enough

  • @fire_the_GOP_24
    @fire_the_GOP_24 Год назад +17

    We need rank choice voting nationwide for a safer election! It's harder for the parties to cheat!

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue Год назад +8

      Not just cheat, but it would allow for independents and politicians to stray away from each party's dogmatic positions that they feel they must currently run on or not criticize.

    • @gingerlicious3500
      @gingerlicious3500 Год назад

      Yep. Everyone wins if we implement that.

    • @markwesselmann9237
      @markwesselmann9237 11 месяцев назад

      Parties? You mean democrats

    • @gingerlicious3500
      @gingerlicious3500 11 месяцев назад

      @@markwesselmann9237 Your own judges determined that Biden won fair and square, dude. Get over it.

    • @fire_the_GOP_24
      @fire_the_GOP_24 11 месяцев назад

      @@markwesselmann9237 I mean anyone. Yes. This time it was Republicans who did the cheating, but we need to change the way elections work to keep anyone from doing it in the future.

  • @sirving2228
    @sirving2228 Год назад +34

    I would throw Missouri in there as one to watch, I understand that Schmidt won in 2022 with 55% and Hawley narrowly won in 2018 with 51%, but Hawley v Lucas Kunce (hopefully he wins the Dem. Primary) could be considered a close race with how unlikable Hawley is in Missouri, of course he’ll have his core voters but I can’t imagine many moderates or independents likening him enough to vote for Hawley again, idk just my opinion/optimism I guess
    The Presidential race could also influence the senate race
    Trump v Biden it could be a closer Senate Race
    If it’s DeSantis v Biden, I think Hawley safely wins reelection

    • @1250nick
      @1250nick Год назад

      Hawley was against a Dem incumbent back in 2018, it's not gonna be anywhere near as close now that he's the one defending his seat against a relative unknown. Popularity doesn't mean that much in a safe state either, otherwise Mitch McConnell would be long gone. Closest seat the dems can hope for is Texas since it's becoming more of a swing state and Cruz was almost beaten last time.

    • @stevenplayzzz172
      @stevenplayzzz172 Год назад

      2018 was a blue wave and Hawley was against an incumbent

    • @dvferyance
      @dvferyance Год назад

      Nobody has ranked Missouri as competitive. The only Republican held seat that might not be safe is Texas that's it.

    • @stevenplayzzz172
      @stevenplayzzz172 Год назад +1

      @@dvferyance and Florida

    • @dvferyance
      @dvferyance Год назад +6

      @@stevenplayzzz172 Given the 2022 results I doubt that. Florida is gone for the Democrats.

  • @KC-gp4mf
    @KC-gp4mf Год назад

    Omg. So sad!!!

  • @mattalford3932
    @mattalford3932 Год назад +1

    I refuse to vote for Manchin so much I'll stay home lol.

  • @primarysf
    @primarysf 11 месяцев назад +6

    Suprised they mentioned Manchin and not Sinema, cause she could potentially be a bigger powder keg if she runs again. If she does run, and stays independent than she will split the ticket between her and the democrat in the general and more than likely give Arizona to the Republicans

  • @cecilelaforce3686
    @cecilelaforce3686 Год назад +14

    Frankly, imo many Americans wonder why the Electoral College still exists. Voters are disenfranchised when millions more vote for one candidate, then the Electoral College choses the other. How is equal representation 2 Senators per State, when states like Wyoming have like 10 people who live there, and California has 40 million. That must change. We're a grown up country now. These rules were made in our infancy, and are so obsolete. I demand equal representation.

    • @ELFanatic
      @ELFanatic Год назад +1

      Agreed

    • @cjoliver7871
      @cjoliver7871 11 месяцев назад +7

      The electoral college is objectively the better mechanism though

    • @OrangeMan.19
      @OrangeMan.19 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@cjoliver7871 you almost made me unleash my rant but hey people who think the electoral college is best dont really ever listen so

    • @cjoliver7871
      @cjoliver7871 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@OrangeMan.19 Well, odds are all the reasons you have wouldn't matter in terms of how the country was set up anyway.

    • @freedomfighterletsgobrandon
      @freedomfighterletsgobrandon 11 месяцев назад +3

      California has 52 Representatives, while Wyoming only has 1.

  • @Zapattack321
    @Zapattack321 5 месяцев назад

    Chuck Todd’s voice = nails on a chalkboard.

  • @swiftflight7927
    @swiftflight7927 11 месяцев назад

    "I'd throw in Minnesota" pff imagine

  • @karltodd7313
    @karltodd7313 Год назад +5

    Cant say whats gonna happen!! They havnt been right yet!!

    • @albertaguiar9361
      @albertaguiar9361 Год назад

      I don't believe Republican is going the Senate in 2024 this guy he is lying

  • @pattersonmoses37
    @pattersonmoses37 Год назад +5

    If Mr. Trump is the normany of the republican party the complete chat will be blue 💙 👍. Republicans unite and get rid of that, sure Tom👍 bandaid.

  • @noraelliott7304
    @noraelliott7304 9 месяцев назад

    Listin to this and be warned.

  • @robertfeinberg748
    @robertfeinberg748 3 месяца назад

    Tester is always listed as vulnerable but he always wins.

  • @staceymurray4740
    @staceymurray4740 Год назад +4

    Haha! A Democrat will NEVER get Montana! I wish they could, I wish it with all my heart but I live in rural Montana and I'm the ONLY dem that I know 😏

    • @TJBellamy99
      @TJBellamy99 Год назад +6

      You have a Democratic Senator! Jon Tester

    • @lockman004
      @lockman004 Год назад +6

      How about John Tester? Now there are two Democrats in Montana!

    • @cmaurice9133
      @cmaurice9133 Год назад +5

      It starts with 1 buddy. You have to campaign hard in Montana. Vote Blue.

    • @staceymurray4740
      @staceymurray4740 Год назад +2

      @@TJBellamy99 yes, I know that...I voted for him but I can't imagine that Montana would go completely blue...the people in the "cities" are more democratic but it's mostly Republicans in the rural parts and we have a lot of rural :) but I will hold out hope!

    • @staceymurray4740
      @staceymurray4740 Год назад +2

      @@lockman004 lol so true :) I meant any that I know personally...I did vote for him tho, so maybe that counts ha

  • @kayalcorn9569
    @kayalcorn9569 Год назад +3

    The orange man should be incarcerated by then.

    • @Reaper-cm4jr
      @Reaper-cm4jr Год назад +2

      And what exactly has he been convicted of??

  • @Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong
    @Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong 10 месяцев назад

    Can Chuck let Steve talk? Chuck really doesn't no what he's talking about.

  • @wilcunningham5787
    @wilcunningham5787 Год назад

    More laws

  • @nae_petey_son
    @nae_petey_son Год назад +3

    #tulsa #janaejavan #oklahoma look at that Red Wave!

  • @supernamek
    @supernamek Год назад +12

    Ohio,Montana,and West Virginia are must wins for Democrats to hold their majority and the only possible pickups are Texas and Florida.

    • @OliverdeClisson
      @OliverdeClisson Год назад +7

      Imagine Ted Cruz`s face if he loses in 2024. I hope he gets the boot in 2024. Also Jim Justice,Tim Sheehy, Matt Dolan&David McCormick will be the gop candidates for their respective states in 2024.

    • @Cubus-zapasowy
      @Cubus-zapasowy Год назад +9

      There's no way Democrats would win Florida. Scott has +8 approval rating, and Florida has gone too far to the right in last years. Last year DeSantis won it by 19% and Rubio by 16%.
      And Cruz may underperform, but still there's little chance he would lose. He won even in 2018, that was a blue wave year and Democrats had a very strong candidate, and 2024 is gonna be a better environment for Republicans than 2018.

    • @wsmcke
      @wsmcke Год назад +3

      Colorado...

    • @tylerkutschbach
      @tylerkutschbach Год назад +2

      I think Missouri and Tennessee are possible pickups too because Hawley and Blackburn are not popular and they won by an upset in 2018

    • @Cubus-zapasowy
      @Cubus-zapasowy Год назад

      @@tylerkutschbach
      Blackburn last time won by 11%, this wasn't even close. How do you expect this race now to be competitive? Especially that it looks like that in 2024 she would perform better, because:
      1. She's an incumbant. Incumbants always perform better, than when they are first elected.
      2. 2018 was a Blue Wave Year and many Democrats overperformed. 2024 looks like a better environment for Republicans.
      The same with Howley - he defeated an incumbant (!) by a 6% in a Blue Wave year. And the next election looks better for Republicans.
      And I don't know why you consider Blackburn's win an upset. Republicans has held that Senate seat for almost 30 years and Tennessee is heavily Republican. I can understand Missouri - even thought it was a Red State since 2000, there was a Democratic incumbant. But Blackburn? Nothing suggested she would lose and in the end the election was not even close.

  • @NewEnglandGaming413
    @NewEnglandGaming413 10 месяцев назад +1

    It would be nice to have a few more options to choose from rather than just the 2 parties. Obviously you can vote for others, but they are pretty much irrelevant at the moment

    • @no_rubbernecking
      @no_rubbernecking 10 месяцев назад

      We have the party system we have because of first-past-the-post voting without runoffs. That voting method is not democracy. But trashing the Democrats it when they're the best option available unless we can ever change the method of voting, is supporting the magas. If you can't or won't do the work to make the necessary change, at least support the best available alternative.

  • @evancarlson6284
    @evancarlson6284 11 месяцев назад

    Susan Collins is NOT our friend Chuck.

  • @jameysimpson1184
    @jameysimpson1184 Год назад +13

    I love it when republicans lose. They scream and cry about how terrible it is they lost. They never admit they were defeated because they are so shocked and upset that they were DEFEATED. I love it!

    • @Reaper-cm4jr
      @Reaper-cm4jr Год назад

      I never get tired of watching it either.
      ruclips.net/video/wrWzBg475Q8/видео.html

    • @angelaizzo641
      @angelaizzo641 Год назад

      Better than America being constantly defeated by Dems.

  • @davidellis5141
    @davidellis5141 Год назад +8

    If it's 51-49 Murkowski will switch to independent & caucus with the D's.

    • @equalopportunityoffender1816
      @equalopportunityoffender1816 Год назад +9

      unlikely

    • @davidellis5141
      @davidellis5141 Год назад

      @Equal Opportunity Offender They would say what committee do you want to chair ? & that could prompt her ...

    • @chrisburnett9905
      @chrisburnett9905 Год назад +2

      There's about as much chance of that happening as Manchin becoming a Republican.

  • @StyleIsAMust
    @StyleIsAMust Год назад

    Lol it’s the rural vs the urban all I see with this map

  • @thewestisthebest6608
    @thewestisthebest6608 9 месяцев назад +1

    Ohio’s incumbent Democrat Sen. Sharron Brown voted with Joe Biden 98% of the time
    Good luck winning re-election with a track record like that in this economy Sharron 👍

  • @napsam71
    @napsam71 Год назад

    How did Chuck ever get this job???

  • @realnoahsimpson
    @realnoahsimpson 11 месяцев назад +1

    at this point we need a hail Mary like Mississippi

    • @HTV315
      @HTV315 11 месяцев назад +1

      My home state of Mississippi is a Republican state safe

  • @gabrielruvalcaba2310
    @gabrielruvalcaba2310 9 месяцев назад +1

    EVERY DAY WE LEARN SOMETHING NEW WITH CROOKEDNOMICS

  • @stavid7870
    @stavid7870 Год назад

    Let's have the talking heads tell us what to think some more, shall we?