Rupaka Thalam Samam to 2 thalli edupu | Korvais

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024

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  • @sathreya
    @sathreya 2 года назад +10

    This is such a beautiful composition that meets arithmetic constraints aesthetically. The basic issue is because of the thalam, the korvai needs to be of the form 12*n+2 (where n is number of avarthanams) and thus indivisible by 3. 12n+2 can be written as 12*(n-1)+14 and 14 can be written as 3+6+5 = 3+6+1+2+2. Thus if the purvangam is of the form 3*(3*(2n+1)) and the uttarangam is 6*(3*(2n+1)) and the karvais are spaced out as 0 in the first iteration 1 in the second and 2 in the third we have
    P1=3*(2*k1+1) U1 = 3*(2*k2+1) (0)
    P2 = 3*(2*k1+1) U2 = 3*(2*k2+1) (1) 3*(2*k2+1)
    P3 = 3*(2*k1+1) U3 = 3*(2*k2+1) (2) 3*(2*k2+1) (2) 3*(2*k2+1)
    When we add all the matras we have 18*k1 +9 + 36*k2 +18 + 5 = 12*1.5*k1 + 12*3*k2 + 12*1.5+14 = 12*1.5*(k1+1) + 12*3*k2 + 14. Thus when k1 is odd and for all values of k2 we have a korvai that will be 2 thalli from samam. In the video k1 is chosen to be 3 thus yielding a purvangam of 3 7s and k2 is varied from 2 to 3 to 4 in the three iterations, yielding 3 5s, 3 7s and 3 9s respectively.
    And speaking of finishing with a flourish, the korvai ends with a neat thisra nadai (gathi bedham) where 3 9s are telescoped in the space of 2 9s in the last iteration.
    Thanks much Balaji sir and to your student for sharing this lovely structure in context. Will look out for this in a concert.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 года назад +2

      Thankyou very much sir. It's wonderful explanation. Useful for the students .👍

    • @vthyaga
      @vthyaga 2 года назад +2

      Bale! Fantastic explanation. I found it hard to follow at first because of straight jump to the maths, but I get it now and it's really useful. For those trying to follow along, why starting with (2n+1) format? - 2n+1 just means an odd number. And using it as the base which gives us 5s, 7s and 9s as mentioned at the end.

    • @sumskind
      @sumskind 11 месяцев назад

      Just great...literally breaking down to elements..aka...மாத்திரை...well done

  • @syamalasrinivasan2393
    @syamalasrinivasan2393 8 дней назад +1

    Wonderful.

  • @VijayantiPappu
    @VijayantiPappu Год назад +3

    Such a wonderful selection of korvais sir.I loved the experimentation of 7s in the purvaNgam with 5s 7s and 9s.I will attempt this korvai in my next concerts.This is such a useful video that is easy to understand when it comes to korvai constructions.thank you and namaskarams ❤🙏

  • @sumskind
    @sumskind 11 месяцев назад +1

    Your way of imbibing is fantastic and no wonder your disciple is so well versed and has a great range...god bless you

  • @nadopasana5542
    @nadopasana5542 Год назад +4

    Excellent explanation useful to both mridangist,nd vocalists also.

  • @vamsikgp
    @vamsikgp 4 месяца назад +1

    wonderful .. invaluable lessons!! Thanks for explaining in English also for all of us (saw a non-sense linguist comment, so had to balance it)

  • @balakrishnapillai6295
    @balakrishnapillai6295 4 месяца назад +1

    A well experienced teacher of all meaning with simple teaching method

  • @Balakrishnan-sq1vo
    @Balakrishnan-sq1vo 2 года назад +1

    Excellent setup, what a beautifu butl simple calculations, Super RamRamRam

  • @prakashkoorpaad6748
    @prakashkoorpaad6748 2 года назад +1

    It.is to me.a personal teaching I am greatful to you gurugale Namaskaragalu

  • @vedavidhyasamithi4572
    @vedavidhyasamithi4572 2 года назад +1

    Hearty Wishes to Shri Melakaveri Balaji for descending to our level and sgaring his great experience. The knowledge of Layam will improve us to sing confidently. Great Seva. Pl continue. We will be able to appreciate Thani Avarthanas better.. sai premi

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 года назад

      Thankyou. Sure I will .

    • @vedavidhyasamithi4572
      @vedavidhyasamithi4572 2 года назад +1

      @@melakaveri
      For the present,keep your lectures for beginners to appreciate Layam better.
      The sruthi and sahithyam aspects ,many understand..Layham is very important
      For classical music.A new gate has been opened ! Gratitude.
      Balakrishna

  • @kalaimamanimeerasivaramakr4074
    @kalaimamanimeerasivaramakr4074 Год назад +1

    Very informative...I have written down the korvais...thank you Balaji. Your student also sang very well

  • @swarataranginiinternationa7572
    @swarataranginiinternationa7572 2 года назад +2

    I am unable to follow the language as I am a Telugu speaking person. Still, I am able to follow the concept clearly. And obviously, it is very useful to me. thank you very much both guruji and the disciple.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 года назад

      Thankyou. I will speak fully in English from next time.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 года назад +1

      I spoke mostly in English.

    • @swarataranginiinternationa7572
      @swarataranginiinternationa7572 2 года назад +1

      Yes sir. You spoke in English mostly, and it is usefull. Dhanyavaadamulu

  • @s.rengamannarkesavan360
    @s.rengamannarkesavan360 2 года назад +1

    Very great sir. Super. Namaskaram🙏

  • @sangeethanarayananmusic
    @sangeethanarayananmusic 2 года назад +2

    Very informative Korvai and clear explanation Sir! Nice singing by Sai Harinni too!

  • @MahaperiyavaSchoolofMridangam
    @MahaperiyavaSchoolofMridangam 2 года назад +1

    Superb excellent Anna periyava charanam 🙏🙏🙏

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 года назад

      Thankyou. Maha periyavaa saranam 🙏🏼

  • @karthikv1906
    @karthikv1906 5 месяцев назад +3

    Very useful for layman rasikas like me

  • @bpharibabu
    @bpharibabu 2 года назад +1

    explained and rendered well sir

  • @sunithaiyer9154
    @sunithaiyer9154 2 года назад +1

    Really sooperb..may god bless you all🙏👏

  • @ravikrishnanghatam8608
    @ravikrishnanghatam8608 2 года назад +1

    Excellent Balaji.

  • @jijimezhuveli7614
    @jijimezhuveli7614 Месяц назад +1

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @raghavanparthasarathyparth1785

    It is so useful for all musicians

  • @bharathk9594
    @bharathk9594 2 года назад +1

    Superb Sir

  • @karunakaranthashanan7200
    @karunakaranthashanan7200 Год назад +1

    Super nice sir

  • @janakiravisveena4590
    @janakiravisveena4590 Год назад +1

    Very nice explanation

  • @harishsubramanian6490
    @harishsubramanian6490 2 года назад +1

    Well rendered sir

  • @venram2010
    @venram2010 Год назад +1

    Excellent!

  • @UmaRamuAyyar
    @UmaRamuAyyar 2 года назад +1

    Wonderful Sir!

  • @chandramohan502
    @chandramohan502 2 года назад +1

    மிகவும் நன்றி ஐயா

  • @Basuvi1
    @Basuvi1 2 года назад +1

    Excellent 🌹

  • @annapooranik1967
    @annapooranik1967 2 года назад +1

    Beautiful excellent

  • @N.K.K.K.N
    @N.K.K.K.N Год назад +1

    Super sir

  • @muse4297
    @muse4297 6 месяцев назад +1

    Wonderful

  • @Munuswamymusic
    @Munuswamymusic 4 месяца назад +1

    ❤ you sir

  • @meenashankar1
    @meenashankar1 11 месяцев назад +1

    11:47 dear sir,although i didn't know carnatic music but i liked it very much pl.let me know is it like hindustani taal Rupak where we hv.7 beats ttin thina dina dhina,also i wld love to learn carnatic mudic theory n practical cld u please guide how can i learn ,wld u kindly teach me online?

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  11 месяцев назад

      Yes I can teach online.

  • @Tamijarassane
    @Tamijarassane Год назад +1

    Very very nice

  • @sugumarsairam6007
    @sugumarsairam6007 2 года назад +1

    Excellent sairam

  • @MYTHILIKRISHNAN62
    @MYTHILIKRISHNAN62 Год назад +1

    Superb.
    Sir last round of kharaharapriya what did u do?

  • @mukundbharadwajL
    @mukundbharadwajL 2 года назад +1

    sir can you post similar ideas for adi talam?
    the videos are very useful.thankyou

  • @TiruchengodeGvParthiban
    @TiruchengodeGvParthiban 2 года назад +1

    Very nice 👍🏻

  • @NerkunamMusicFamily
    @NerkunamMusicFamily 2 года назад +1

    Super anna

  • @venky1973
    @venky1973 2 года назад +1

    Very nice

  • @MYTHILIKRISHNAN62
    @MYTHILIKRISHNAN62 Год назад +1

    Sir what did u do in the fast one in kharaharapriya

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  Год назад

      What we are singing is the chatusram madhya makalam only.

  • @purushotmennaidoo
    @purushotmennaidoo 4 месяца назад +1

    It saddens the audience deeply when such musical maestros tend to resort using English, not realising that it is from the ancient Thamil that their knowledge springs from. In the international arena affirm the sanctity and mystery of the profound Thamil please. Other races are proud of their language unlike Thamilians particularly the learned Bramins.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  4 месяца назад

      Thankyou for your information 💐

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  4 месяца назад +6

      I am going to present my videos in English only. This is for the Musicians all over the world.
      Music has No Language Barriers.
      Don't interpret this towards Race, Language and Religion.
      This is I am doing as a service to the Music Rasikas and Young Budding Artistes without any caste, creed or Religion

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  4 месяца назад +2

      If possible share the knowledge you have regarding the Carnatic Music or any field .That will be Very Good for the Society around you. Don't waste your time like this.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  4 месяца назад

      Particularly I spoke most of the time in Thamizh(it should be pronounced like this) in this video.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  4 месяца назад

      Not as you mentioned as Thamil