Off The Cuff with Ashley Tellis
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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ThePrint's Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta in conversation with Ashley J. Tellis, Senior Fellow, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
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Ashley Tellis is one of the most brilliant strategic specialists in the field and you could not have done better than this.He has gone to the core of the Indo-US relationship like no other...Thank you for this upload
Oh my God, This is one of best Off the cuff. It is only SG can get such a big FISH for interview. Thanks a ton SG Sir.
The thing about Shekar Gupta , he lets the interviewer shine and never interrupts , I think Jyoti Malhotra has to take some tips from him to at least for most parts let the interviewer complete sentences instead of constantly butting in .
He also throws in his own kitty of encapsulated chunks of "Trademark Indian narratives" which are analogous to the situation being explained as well as popular and easy to comprehend for the lesser aware masses, so as to correlate and augment their own understanding of the subject. Like - Ekla Chalo Re, Xi Jinping Chalisa 😂😂😂😂.
This shows not only he is a fine tuned one, but also a perfectly grounded journalist in many ways. A mix barely found now a days.
Rabindranath Thakur didnt say "ekla chalo re" as a principle, he said if no one answers your call then walk alone. Whats the point walking alone if people wanna walk with you, thats just plain arrogance.
Yes the concept was misunderstood by SG . His understanding of Bengali is lot left to be understood
The first line itself was 'keu Dak shune na Ashe tobe ekla cholo re' : if nobody hears when you make a call, then walk alone.
If I would be making a movie on Narendra Modi, I would cast Ashley to play NaMo.
This is perhaps one of the best interviews that I have watched in the recent past. Didn't know about Ashley, but he comes out as a great thinker on strategic issues. SG did a great job in keeping it delightful and personal and gently teasing him at times.
Mr.SG, I do not watch OC too often. But, this has been a rewarding investment of my time. Many thanks.
Ashley Tellis's thinking is truly strategic. Without getting into nitty gritty of ground reality, he is able to assess the present situation between India-China-US and make reasonable forecast for the next four years. Our top leadership has to learn something from this person, especially about two points: to give up the hangover of autonomy, and embrace its friends; military reforms.
Really nice conversations.. The Print never disappoints viewers in Off The Cuff.
Dont worry he Biden is going to fuck Modi big time let me tell you all guys...Oh trump is bad now for india ????
@@linaa7950 please educate yourself and please don't use vulgar language. Foreign policy is made on national interest and not on personal like and dislike.
Modi look alike is absolutely true 😂😂😂
Shekhar sir, a request of a daily follower - Could you please have discussion on these points with Indian strategist? I felt a little bit of advertising US intention to push it's policies on India. It's easy to see that India's non alignment with a side is hampering it but at the same time US adversaries are at India's doorstep. Again another point that US doesn't want to contest on things where it need China's alignment could change over time because US wants to uphold it's supremacy at any cost.
A very humble and genuine request. Thank you!
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There are plenty of Indian “strategists”. Ashley Tellis is an Indian by birth, and his dil he Hindustani even though he carries a US passport. Indian leaders should listen to what he says
When it comes to priming Taiwan and India for a standoff, why not US is taking a jab at blocking trade from China?
I felt it like a double standard and as always, US (for that matter any superpower) is there when it sees it's own interest. Having China and Russia as immediate neighbour, US's expectation from Indo Pacific countries are not well thought of. The taste of personal gain is clear when it comes to US. For e.g. CCP is the enemy and not China because a lot of Chinese are helping US economy grow. I agree that it is correct but what happens when they point to Pakistan instead of Pakistani govt. - Democracy? Okay what about Iran govt instead of Iran?
@Ich Nemesis Well said! It definitely hinders our growth and unless the seed of these differences are not cut off, we can never be a lot more than we are now. Coming to strategic autonomy, being so close to the adversaries, it is not wise to take such stand without having a common collective motive internally that can be sustained across variety of potential political leaders.
Capable but constrained by Mr. Ashley is a very insightful paper. Thanks for it
Excellent insights! Loved the Shekharisms too - Xi Jinping Chalisa was epic! 😄
It's very insightful to hear all our foreign affairs dilemmas and reality from such a well informed expert from the other side. Thank you Print and SG for this.
This video lands immediately in my top 5 favourite videos ever watched on YT and believe me I am sucker of YT from last 10 years.. I live
in France and The Print is my only credible source of news and information about India and other geo-political affairs... big fan of Gupta ji :-)
amazzing loved the knowledgeable debate and warmness in the conversation pure pleasure for brain and sound
Excellent interview. Thank you SG sir
Shekhar Gupta looks so happy to do this interview 👍😂
It’s amazing to see an Indian American perspective which is pretty different and robust as we can’t look at our country the way Ashley see... as sometimes it makes you proud of your leadership and sometimes kept me sceptical about tackling present situation to move forward with absolute precision of every decision... colonialism scars are still engraved inside our major population (in job structures, politics, offices etc.) and so as nationalism and liberalism to confront that... but what fuel up the fire in our youth are bigger dreams with some commendable selfless labour to drive up the economy which is the only real thing in these competitive global race... but most of your youth still living in era of 90s sarkari job security...
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Excellent and timely analysis / recommendations by a respected Indian American expert. Hope Dr Tellis’ doppelgänger :) is paying attention to advice from a friend. Best from Seattle USA
Sekhar Gupta’s interview with Ashley Tellis has been one of the most enjoyable and stimulating interviews I had watched recently. Gupta pushed all the right buttons in asking questions and was happy to lean back and let Tellis speak. With a Biden Administration in power for the next four years and conceivably eight years, India needs to go back to its foreign policy drawing board.
I was born in India, moved to the US when I was 13, became a citizen there in 2004, voted for Obama twice & now have voted for Biden/Harris, while living in India (again). I moved back to Kolkata for various reasons but I identify as an American. A Bengali-American living in India by the grace of an OCI. My life & education in the US taught me how crucial active citizenry is to a successful nation. It has very little to do with political leaders and much, much more to do with community leaders & community service. I volunteered throughout my life & my first job out of law school was AmeriCorps. Ironically, unlike the American Constitution (which I focused on in law school) the Indian Constitution explicitly gives 21 'duties' of every Indian citizen. In that way, the Indian Constitution is far more comprehensive in its guidance of the maintenance of a stable democracy than the American Constitution. The American Constitution leaves much more to construction over time than its Indian counterpart. However, despite these explicit guidelines, India does not have a service organization like the PeaceCorp or AmeriCorps. I see school & college students doing politics & loitering far more than performing community service as part of their aspiring governance paradigm. If those college students were doing politics while also cleaning neighborhoods, & beautifying their respective areas, that would itself provide a huge boost to their political clout. And this, I believe, is the secret to a truly independent India. We have to teach Indians to take care of one another first. Then we build on those foundations. I would love to see that for the country of my birth. Although I don't see myself as an Indian, I see myself as a Bengali to the bone & honestly believe that India's potential is LARGELY untapped at this time. India's operating at 10 to 11% productivity. If the community bonding & relationship can heal the divides & create a healthier body politic, India will quadruple that number. Then imagine what India would be.
Insightful ... tellies breaths America ... so as to have 360 view on this topic if Sekhar could get some expert who breaths india and understand its perspective ... thank you once more it was insightful .
Brilliant piece.... As always you have out done yourself again. Great Interview and a very very positive one.
Chi Jing Ping challisa 🤣🤣🤣
The sense of humor yet while discussing serious issues is the USP of Shekhar Gupta 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
This is one of the best , his understanding of the strategic paradigm and analysis are so real and awesome.
Brilliantly articulated and very insightful.THANKYOU PRINT and SG
very good analysis. very enlightening discussion .
Great episode.....finally seeing wise and intelligent minds conversing
Useful, insightful, outstanding. Thank you!
SG, One of your very best interviews. Ashley is so erudite and insightful! Surprised by how his views and those of Subramaniam Swamy these days travel synchronized!
Definitely it a win of the people who used the words in their speeches as Love, Sacrifice, Passions, struggle
Vision, dreams with ambitions, confidence, decency, service, Liberty, generosity, Justice, Resilience, debt of gratitude, Willingness, Vision, Family health, Women are back bone of Democracy, Sincerity, Truth, Compassions, restore economy, Unity, United, cooperation, no difference for faith, identity and race, Dream with ambitions, lead with conviction. So it is welcome address. We hope they shall succeed. In the Trump speeches these words remained mostly absent.
A great discussion Sekhar which is anything but ‘off the cuff’. Ashley’s knowledge and articulation are amazing. I haven’t heard many who is so masterly in using words and expressions in diplomatic context. Ashley never put a wrong foot on any area he discussed and never compromised with the hard truth either. Thanks Sekhar for asking astute questions. Do take care of that cough and stay away from Delhi, as I am doing presently, if you can.
great interview sir. hats off to your style of journalism. may your tribe flourish
*@PRINT* Excellent! Mr. Tellis takes a few _"courageous"_ positions though...
Excellent analysis and discussion. India should understand that she is far away from its dream. They should first try to met basic needs of their people.
Mr. Gupta,what about ballakot strike you mentioned in cut the clutter in context of this interview ,is govt directing you or make you to remove that part from this off the cuff
Great and insightful conversation. Thanks a lot The Print for this productive 1 hour
SG sir, I am grappling to catch up with all your episodes, while you are conduction them, very efficient, salute!
brilliant, articulate ,insightful, knowledgeful guy. thanks shekarji for the interview.
thanks to SG for an illuminating interview.
Great! Bring more of similar world thought leaders in "off the Cuff'l. Congrats!
Absolutely loved the conversation.
Very informative and detailed.
Print and SG deliver such high content and quality video after video- well done team!
Absolutely delightful
This was the sweetest way of putting India and Indian population. Expected stronger rhetorics from Sekhar ji to counter these impressions created by him during the course of interview
बेहतरीन बातचीत, शेखर जी आपने बेहतरीन सवाल किऐ और बेहद साफगोई से जबाव भी मिले ! सही मायने में बिना लागलपेट सीधी बात सुनने वाला सहमत हो या ना हो पर कोई पाखण्ड नही !
भारत को अब इस अनिश्चय से निकलना चाहिये और चीन व अमेरिका से सबंधो को व्यवहारिक बनाऐ बजाय नैतिकता और आदर्शवाद के पाखण्ड के!
This is top of the line conversation, would be great to see such quality propelled to national level with much larger audience. And by side you could run an MBA in journalism:)
We may miss the boat yet we may surprise. Thank you for a good conversation.
I don't think with current Gov mentality and nationalism(Protectionism ) at core of politics India will recover over 5 percent at best for next 10 years. There has been enough structural dent in last 5-6 years that recovery is not possible to reach same average growth rate between years 2005-2015. In contrast I see poor financial policy taking toll with a deep dark long depression in coming years. Economic growth or fall is systemic and system is deeply broken (informal sector is broken deep) thanks to jingoism in gov and people ... and this is true at all levels.. I dont see any change policy can take this economy can grow at 10 percent or so sustained for over 5 years. May be a good policy now bring some good result in next 8-10 years. 1-2 Quarters are possible but not for consistent repeats for years in coming 5 years for sure.
@@ankursaran I cd not agree more but it's devastating to face that truth :) I can't imagine more of my country falling into poverty than the other way round but that seems to turn inevitability. Damn the politics, all the time. We are letting all our demographic dividend go down the drain. And yes the govt tendency to nationalisation of institutions is again detrimental. I don't know with so many sage think tanks n policy thoughts available, at the top any govt tends to do something else. Power shd be a magically miserable thing to hold or else why do they (any govt) side step good governance with rural economy in sight up until they reach the top. Till then everything seems to make sense.
@@ankursaran No, that's not entirely true. Because before 1991 it was more nationalistic economy. Maybe only the name is different. We may say those were socialist days but that was the real thing of how a state owns virtually everything. But now atmanirbhar is not about owning everything by the govt but more private players. We are not doing the same thing again. So if we have to strengthen ourselves we have to strengthen our core through more private players. And private business has a lot of energy than public/govt business. We know how govt departments and PSUs works again some of them are going good. Now because of the acquaintance of businesses with the earlier economic models and govt policies, a change in economic policy by current regime made people a little confused but India has been moving in the right direction. So far so good But by the time some results came in we got a pandemic, thanx to neighbor. But we have been doing the right things. Maybe many among us wouldn't like current govt but even China did the same things way earlier in the 70's and their GDP too went down but then started moving up and now we know. So down the drain somewhere we procrastinated even after 1991 economic liberalisation. Also our GDP calculation too has its own issues without considering our realities. Our GDP calculation is a copy paste of western countries were population is not high as that of India. We need a holistic approach considering our strengths and weaknesses instead of comparing ourselves with relatively lesser populated economic countries. So blaming current regime for historic procrastination is a very bad idea considering where we are placed in the world.
Great sidebar. The problem is Modi is missing a COO who can get “stuff done”. Someone who can talk him through short and long term consequences, and help him make smarter decisions. Absent that you have a whole number of own goals, and nationalism to paper over
@@rickbarrington Maybe we can come up with India. Inc to put a COO. But I'm being practical to say that for past 7 decades we have had a system. We can't change that in a fortnight. But there are many govt executives to do the job. The thing is when I look around a lot of people have rolled out businesses and nobody is going bankrupt, hence the positive outlook.
Never thought that PM Modi had a brother
Reason why India is not signing NATO type agreement against China.
1- If we allow USA to use our base for it's military, then high chances are there that USA will use it against Allies of India. It will hurt India's relationship with it's Allies.
2- India needs peace with China till the time India become as big economy as China. Signing agreement with USA will bring India and China in more tense relationship which will hamper India's growth and said that here USA have nothing to lose.
3- What if USA break a deal with China and left India in mid way?
insightful, witty and optimistic
In US and India relations When America takes two steps forward and India takes one step backward it means
US wants and expects India to go on war with America in Iraq Afghanistan Yemen Libya and other unwarrented wars which India refuse that is what is interpreted by USA as India taking one step back
He’s talking of taking a bold confident step rather than delaying the conflict and loose POK Aksai chin that can be our major route to Central Asia and Europe... early decentralisation of Indian industries... GST, CDS and many more hard steps... but with such massive population every decision becomes complicated...
lol this mentality will get india to loose indian kashmir and ladakh ;)
Super quality episode.
"Subtlety and excess of subtlety" by Modi Government.......India's hesitant approach towards China is well exposed by Mr.Tellis. Thanks to "The Print" for bringing to fore through a candid interview
Ashley is Such a brilliant mind, and down to earth personality
Best OTC conversation ever!
Two wise men giving their best. TQ
Subtle Diplomacy through intellectual outreach! :) Very informative and mind pleasing video.
Really Informative Video, Interview progresses in a Logical Manner. 👍
SG ki khushi 😃 ka thikana nai hai....🤣🤣🤣🤣
Super Interview SG. Keep them coming 👍
very refreshing ,brutally honest -enjoyed and learned from this episode---what does shri Tellis mean by hampering Atmosphere in India ?
The problem is Modi is missing a COO who can get “stuff done” and a chief strategy officer who can talk him through short and long term consequences, and help him make smarter decisions. Depending on the bureaucratic hacks none of whom are holistic or competent will lead to more own goals like the demonetization and miss a tremendous opportunity.
China is sprinting towards the finish line of superpower capability; the consequence of missing the opportunity is a clear and present danger
Nations are not corporations. China is sprinting; but it has a criminal core.I believe it is guilty of far more serious crimes centering around Covid 19 than they choose to acknowledge.So to consider the India-China competition as one between two ethical corporations.
@@physicsonline8853 He's right though. Many nations grew powerful because of their long term vision. South Korea focused on industrialization and development in the 60s so that it could be rich enough to be autonomous. It took several decades but it worked. China had a similar long term plan under Deng Xiaoping. India? We seem to have problems even in short term thinking. No one thinks what would happen if you banned 500 notes or put the country on lockdown with 4-hr notice. If we can't think in days, how can we think in decades?
Very interesting. Hope this is more widely watched.
Half way through the video I realised SG is interviewing Modi😂
😂😂, I was like, damn.. Modi talks english with a slang 😂😂
Shekhar Gupta has good jugaad to get prominent personalities to his show.
@@vladimirtrump5637 Chill. I know what it is called.
@@vladimirtrump5637 mere sentences bhi tu he likh de. Kuch bolo nahi correction karne puri population aa jati hain.
@@vladimirtrump5637 did I ask for your free advice.
@@elimccain1728 bhai/behen kya bole rahe/rahi ho
Thanks you 🙏
One of the best interview
Very informative
Thanks to bring this conversation. Where I can donate for your journalism
Excellent off the cuff,rather ON THE CUFF.
Intrigued on India's altruism.
This altruism is undermining our strategic autonomy.
The Chinese views on India-US alliance is primarily primed by economics,if,so,are we being cracked open?
Riveting stuff.
The Print ,should have more such programs,hope you will.
This kind of journalism should live as long as the 🌞. Now there is a need of the hour that every individual should have diversity in their source of opinions. ( The print will substitute The Hindu) .
very very informative !!!
Thanks for this interview Ashley. I used to be an avid listener of the Carnegie Endowment podcasts in the past. Must compliment you on your new look. Must say that for a fraction of a second I mistook you for Narendra Modi when I saw the thumbnail
Will love more to have like this... can we please have one with Harsha Bhogle..? Or likewise....you will know better
great interview very informative, just one question really Bush policies
I think it is the way of the world, when you want to exploit someone, you undermine their true strengths. India has the 2nd/3rd largest army in the world (if you count reserves), by PPP terms 3-4th economy in the world. Yes, massive poverty and challenges, but there is room for inevitable growth. I think India has plenty to contribute and should continue to believe in itself and where it will head. Good friends see potential, exploiters or potential adversaries see weaknesses.
The way Sekhar Gupta introduces to his panelist, mentioning all thier qualifications and achievements....
Wish he introduces Jhonny Sins one day. The introduction would be an hour long.
This was enlightening
He indeed at great knowledge.
Amazing!!
Excellent
Super good interview
Very interesting!
What I'm hearing is that India will be a subsidiary partner of US. Right now India has to ask for US's permission to trade with Iran. India will never be seen as an equal partner of US.
US wants India to be more aggressive with China and be a pawn in geo-politics to maintain US hegemony. Imagine who benefits most if India builds up military forces. US will benefit most from sales of arms. India will lose more as its resource is sucked out into military rather than economic development.
India must look after its interest and not get get sucked into this geopolitics. Both India and China must solve its border disputes left behind by the British colonialism and move on to foster better relations esp in economy for the greater good of all.
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Pandemic Has Given An Opportunity To Grow The Economy.
Your Are Some Ting Not Dot Correct.
There Is World Wide Slump In The World Economics/Economy.
One suggestion please add timestamps it make these long videos easy to consume.
Good interview
Look at the tone and tenure of the guest , thats is the actual problem. They think that India need USA badly and USA does not need india..its not true we can handle our own problems and do not want to be a junior partner.
strange that US needs to have the ability to mantain relations with our arch enemy pakistan, supply them with F 16s and we should commit to the US, and even being subtle in such support is a crime.
To be frank, Modi must enter QUAD without any inhibition. Mr Tellis is a very astute observer and a dispassionate critic. He is a great friend of India.
Golden takeaway is that playing the game of strategic autonomy reduces India's options in handling China because China sees no downside in needling is. True strategy may require explicit alliance with USA.
Dear Shekhar Gupta, what can be done to revive Indian economy ?
While this off the cuff session focused on Indo- US relationship vis a vis China, it will be great to understand impact on Indo-Russia relations. Is India being hesistant to become a USA ally cause of its long standing partnership with Russia? How does putin view Chinas expansionist ideas? Will he be prepared to collaborate with India, as russia has done so in the past?
Sir please take an interview with John Mearshimer
all present here please refer to the essay of MR ASHLEY TELLIS - ARE INDIA PAKISTAN TALKS WORTH A DAMN? search in google you will find it easily. it is an excellent masterpiece. youtube also has video discussion on that paper, you can search it.
If there was a button which gives 💯 likes, I would consider that for this video.
10 squadrons short and IAF has an edge over PLAF and PAF.
@Chirag Patel this is the same guy who couldn’t stop singing praises for the Indian operation in balakot and now he is calling that a failed operation in the book shehkar was referring to. So when he says that india has an edge over PLAF or even PAF for that matter I am a bit skeptical about what he will say later.
Issue Indian Army faces is also same as issue India faces also given in episode #92. It would be nice if you can bring out this relation as both need to be solved for India's future.
Changing the ratio of manpower with autumation/mechanization.