So here is my approach to Vicente's new Rumba that just came out 2 days ago! If you understand Vicente, the style and world he lives in then this is your heaven. I think give Vicente 2 chords and he'll make an album that can win the Latin Grammy with, easily. Haha I hope you enjoy this video, and that it helped you see more details that you might have missed. If it did help, then my job here is done. Here is the official link to the piece: ruclips.net/video/vV8qKY9XLvw/видео.html Cheers! Luciano
Transcribing using apps like Anytune enables you to slow down the speed to varying degrees without affecting the actual pitch. 3:09 Great for acoustically understanding great jazz improvisations.
I ve been around the web looking for real good useful flamenco channels, and I can say that your work and will to share is uppon the few ones to really contribute to flamenco guitar 'arte'... You, and a tiny handfull of others are the ones keeping the flame alive and beautifull. I know well the massive amount of work, dedication and sacrifice flamenco guitar can take for playing that great, that sensitive. You are among the humbles guardians of the temple. Dios te guarde
Vicente is my all time favourite musician. I love the way you have picked up on so many of his trademark subtleties that make his style so unique and identifiable. Brilliant 🤩
is amazing these flamenco players, Luciano as such, can repeat the music that is so fast, just by listening to the recording. This the way I was learning as a beginner in the flamenco class, but teacher had to play much simpler and slower music, with 6 beats or even 3 beats at a time.
This is the part of guitar-ing that self-taught students rarely get to see--analysis of complicated material to the point we can replicate it...can you do a series of material where we can further experience these steps (and your approach to learning new material). For years I've heard "just do ear training." This may be where it starts, but it seems to go deeper than that... Thanks in advance! Nuestro Flamenco!
You are right. The aficion is very importante and the rythm too of course. But i think that you must learn a lot of famous pieces to get the material of chords and harmony.. Paco de Lucia said that he was like a robber because he tooks many thinks of the older musicians. He play it and shake them. He said this is the best things to progress..🙂 cheers.
Literalmente un día le duran los temas al Vicente,verdaderamente impresionante,está más que claro que el lenguaje de Vicente lo llevas de la mano.Tremenda como suena la Reyes,pero echo de menos la Lester,a ver si la sacas un día.
It is especially difficult to figure it since there is no video that we have yet from a concert or whatever which would simplify the analysys. Ear challenge torture until then 😊
I got it now, it's really much harder than it sounds from the outside... After playing for four hours, it still doesn't make any sound and I didn't even come close... I always thought that classical and more melodic flamenco was very complicated and full of details, but now I just realized what New Flamenco and especially Vicente is saying❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏
I just wondered earlier today whether to contact you to learn that piece, thinking you might get a kick out of that piece 😊 Thx for the free lesson, it's nice to see your approach
Crazy you learned this fast.. and BYY EAR????????? 😳😳🔥, if I were to learn this it would take me at least a year and i would need music sheet for it. Guitar is just not for everybody😔
If you put all of Vicente’s albums into ChatGPT AI this is what would come out 😂 this piece in D# tono de la Vicente. Still fun to listen to I like hearing the improv
Its very hard work what you did Luciano.You are maestro as well. You are another level. I like Vicente a lot .he has incredible tracks from his old albums. If its possible can you make tutorial about "Mensaje" l have never seen any tutorial about that Fandango. Oldies but goldies ❤
The core idea behind "by ear" is exactly opposite of having a guide, or a course. So any course pretending to cover that topic would be a complete scam. The only protocol I can share is: play song, pause song, play guitar, rewind song; repeat.
@@wiwipapillon6928 Thanks for your insight. What I know thus far is that in Flamenco, there are certain harmonies/chord progressions a palo will lean towards. The difficulty becomes, then 1) the choice of fingering (for example) of an A minor-type chord, then 2) the complexity and technique for the "melody" within the chord and 3) How Luciano describes here, what it happening of the subtler levels in the music. Often when I'm learning something by ear, then check how another player performs it, I'm WAAAYY off, then it's like "back to the drawing board..." So, by "ear," is it fair to say it's kinda like spelunking without a flashlight?
@@Vijay7090 Your last phrase is spot on. Just for context here, I am NOT an excellent guitar player myself. But I believe to be pretty decent however. My only valid authority is that I am completely self taught, by ear, and this was from an era where internet was only taking off, so RUclips and any kind of help was completely out the equation. From my experience of listening and fiddling for hundreds and hundreds of hours, I can say today that when listening to a new piece, without touching the guitar yet, I can know with a rough guess of let's say around 80% accuracy which string any note is played on. And after fiddling, I can go up to 100%. So point n° 1 and n°2 is clearly experience built on sheer volume of hours listening/playing failing and repeating. N°3 is clearly of of reach of any common musician. Luciano is a professional, but most importantly, he is a virtuoso genius. They are very few on this planet. I hope I didn't sound too pessimistic, that was not my intent. I wanted more to emphasize on the importance of volume of work needed to unlock, step by step, new levels of understanding (which I keep on doing myself) Wish you all the best
@@wiwipapillon6928Nope, no pessimism felt. I understood your point and you've clarified further: voluminous trial and error....and if a RUclipsr has done the work already, thank the guitar gods! Salud!
Vicente Amigo is the only flamenco guitarrist I listen, I can not explain what caught my attention, I think is more melodic and not so "gypsy style" like the other flamenco guitarrists.
So here is my approach to Vicente's new Rumba that just came out 2 days ago! If you understand Vicente, the style and world he lives in then this is your heaven.
I think give Vicente 2 chords and he'll make an album that can win the Latin Grammy with, easily. Haha
I hope you enjoy this video, and that it helped you see more details that you might have missed. If it did help, then my job here is done.
Here is the official link to the piece:
ruclips.net/video/vV8qKY9XLvw/видео.html
Cheers!
Luciano
Two things are impressive: the capacity of Vicente to compose and the capacity of Luciano to take the songs so fast. Nice video🇧🇷
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One of the proper best RUclips guitarist in the world
Yes, he is amazing!
Creo que el maestro Vicente ve este video y le causará un poco de gracia dado la rapidez con que publicó este video con su último tema 😅😮🎊😆🤙🏻
Maestro Luciano you’re a real genius and the way you’ve explained it’s a perfection ❤❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏 God bless you always 🙏
Ole Luciano! I like the way you are doing this in a "live" mode 😊
Transcribing using apps like Anytune enables you to slow down the speed to varying degrees without affecting the actual pitch. 3:09
Great for acoustically understanding great jazz improvisations.
I think on this album he was maybe making references to his past works as part of the theme of the album.
I love Vicente Amigo ❤ and I am not even from Spain.
very impressive can you do an analysis also for pasodoble a Jose Tomas please
Eres una maquina!! Alucino contigo!! Lleva el tema 2 días , y ya lo has sacado!!!!!😮😮😮😮 Eres un genio!!!! Llevas a Vicente metido hasta dentro tio!!!
Easily the coolest new Flamenco beat this year!!!!
I ve been around the web looking for real good useful flamenco channels, and I can say that your work and will to share is uppon the few ones to really contribute to flamenco guitar 'arte'...
You, and a tiny handfull of others are the ones keeping the flame alive and beautifull.
I know well the massive amount of work, dedication and sacrifice flamenco guitar can take for playing that great, that sensitive.
You are among the humbles guardians of the temple.
Dios te guarde
Now I can enjoy the beauty and complexity of this song even more! Gracias maestro!! :)
You are overqualified for youtube my dear.
I like this comment so much. But when I see the comment was made by Atrafana School is even better !! (I bought your flamenco course🙇🏻)
@@mr.afco1 cheers 🍻
The pasodoble for Jose Tomas is also very cool...!thanks
Vicente is my all time favourite musician. I love the way you have picked up on so many of his trademark subtleties that make his style so unique and identifiable. Brilliant 🤩
is amazing these flamenco players, Luciano as such, can repeat the music that is so fast, just by listening to the recording. This the way I was learning as a beginner in the flamenco class, but teacher had to play much simpler and slower music, with 6 beats or even 3 beats at a time.
Ole!
Thank you Maestro Luciano. Please teach the next music of La Fragua(seguiriyas) by vicente amigo.
Just two days and you already have the new rumba. Probably you're Vicente's continuation 😮
RIGHT!! WTF!!!
True. Luciano is a great artist and a very good guy.👍
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This is the part of guitar-ing that self-taught students rarely get to see--analysis of complicated material to the point we can replicate it...can you do a series of material where we can further experience these steps (and your approach to learning new material). For years I've heard "just do ear training." This may be where it starts, but it seems to go deeper than that... Thanks in advance! Nuestro Flamenco!
You are right. The aficion is very importante and the rythm too of course. But i think that you must learn a lot of famous pieces to get the material of chords and harmony.. Paco de Lucia said that he was like a robber because he tooks many thinks of the older musicians. He play it and shake them. He said this is the best things to progress..🙂 cheers.
One genius analysing the music of another! 😮
Wow! Just, wow! You're such a great player man! Picking apart Vicente's song so clearly is incredible to see and hear. I really enjoy your content.
THANX FOR THIS MAN!!!!!
If anyone wants to learn flamenco and this guy teaches pay what he wants
I hope you can make a video with vicente someday i just wanna see you too exchange ideas that would be so great
Thank you Luciano!
Very cool! Thank you for sharing!🤯
Me encanta mucho este tipo de los vídeos . Muy interesante 👍 . Muchas gracias maestro. Un abrazo
Great video Luciano. Nobody can analyze Vicente's beautiful music like you can. Sounds really amazing!!!
Eso! :)
Agua 👏🏻
Literalmente un día le duran los temas al Vicente,verdaderamente impresionante,está más que claro que el lenguaje de Vicente lo llevas de la mano.Tremenda como suena la Reyes,pero echo de menos la Lester,a ver si la sacas un día.
Excellent video of the highest standard of playing, working it out in real time. Impressive.
It is especially difficult to figure it since there is no video that we have yet from a concert or whatever which would simplify the analysys. Ear challenge torture until then 😊
I got it now, it's really much harder than it sounds from the outside... After playing for four hours, it still doesn't make any sound and I didn't even come close... I always thought that classical and more melodic flamenco was very complicated and full of details, but now I just realized what New Flamenco and especially Vicente is saying❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏
Wow, thank you. So amazing to listen to your analysis and skill.
Luciano, you have to cover the whole song, will be incredible
Спасибо большое драгоценный друг 🙏🙏
So great. I also like you give yourself the benefit of doubt and it's so cool.
فيديو رائع شكرا لك ❤
Wow, you just learned it on the way. Im speechless 🤐
Pleaseeeeee do this for all Vicente's songs!😢 pleaseeeee! You are amazing I love you❤
Good! Very interesting , and veru guitaristic ! I love that !
Suena espectacular Luciano!
Gracias!
Very interesting and inspiring. Thank you, and much success to you.
very beatiful analisys of this piece of the grat Vicente Amigo.
Olé maestro!❤
I just wondered earlier today whether to contact you to learn that piece, thinking you might get a kick out of that piece 😊 Thx for the free lesson, it's nice to see your approach
🔥🔥🔥video
Wow, great work!!
Vicente Amigo explores the guitar horizontally, his compositions are easy to listen but not to replicate even for expert guitarists
Crazy you learned this fast.. and BYY EAR????????? 😳😳🔥, if I were to learn this it would take me at least a year and i would need music sheet for it. Guitar is just not for everybody😔
Amazing as always !!!
Maestro
Luciano, would you like to make a tutorial on the new Vicente posadoble?
If you put all of Vicente’s albums into ChatGPT AI this is what would come out 😂 this piece in D# tono de la Vicente. Still fun to listen to I like hearing the improv
Hello Luciano😇 I wonder your recording gear.Sound is wonderful.Please tell me
Its very hard work what you did Luciano.You are maestro as well. You are another level. I like Vicente a lot .he has incredible tracks from his old albums. If its possible can you make tutorial about "Mensaje" l have never seen any tutorial about that Fandango. Oldies but goldies ❤
Brilliant!
Vicente es turón y tú el chocolate
Vaya que poeta (referencia a Vicente 😂)
buenisimo, el paso doble por favor a ver si es mas accesible jajajaja
I know its blasphemic among flamenco guitarists but i always enjoyed vicente the most, even more than Paco. You did great work there thank you.
❤❤ luciano
LucianoGPT 😂🤪
He's taking from Chic Corea's Spain progression a bit here.
❤❤
Do you have tutorials/videos/series on how to analyze (and play) flamenco music by ear (assuming this is your process)...? Thanks!
The core idea behind "by ear" is exactly opposite of having a guide, or a course. So any course pretending to cover that topic would be a complete scam.
The only protocol I can share is: play song, pause song, play guitar, rewind song; repeat.
@@wiwipapillon6928 Thanks for your insight. What I know thus far is that in Flamenco, there are certain harmonies/chord progressions a palo will lean towards. The difficulty becomes, then 1) the choice of fingering (for example) of an A minor-type chord, then 2) the complexity and technique for the "melody" within the chord and 3) How Luciano describes here, what it happening of the subtler levels in the music.
Often when I'm learning something by ear, then check how another player performs it, I'm WAAAYY off, then it's like "back to the drawing board..."
So, by "ear," is it fair to say it's kinda like spelunking without a flashlight?
@@Vijay7090 Your last phrase is spot on.
Just for context here, I am NOT an excellent guitar player myself. But I believe to be pretty decent however. My only valid authority is that I am completely self taught, by ear, and this was from an era where internet was only taking off, so RUclips and any kind of help was completely out the equation. From my experience of listening and fiddling for hundreds and hundreds of hours, I can say today that when listening to a new piece, without touching the guitar yet, I can know with a rough guess of let's say around 80% accuracy which string any note is played on. And after fiddling, I can go up to 100%. So point n° 1 and n°2 is clearly experience built on sheer volume of hours listening/playing failing and repeating.
N°3 is clearly of of reach of any common musician. Luciano is a professional, but most importantly, he is a virtuoso genius. They are very few on this planet.
I hope I didn't sound too pessimistic, that was not my intent. I wanted more to emphasize on the importance of volume of work needed to unlock, step by step, new levels of understanding (which I keep on doing myself)
Wish you all the best
@@wiwipapillon6928Nope, no pessimism felt. I understood your point and you've clarified further: voluminous trial and error....and if a RUclipsr has done the work already, thank the guitar gods! Salud!
@@Vijay7090 🙏
why most of Vicente's compositions are in Eb ? .... Can We Call Him Jimi Hendrix of Flamenco because of that ?
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El Corcovado tambien tiene su chiste pero esta es mas pegajosa !!!
Vicente Amigo is the only flamenco guitarrist I listen, I can not explain what caught my attention, I think is more melodic and not so "gypsy style" like the other flamenco guitarrists.
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