As a 1200 player, I’m very confident that rice was being cooked. I couldn’t keep up with the ideas behind their moves at all and never run into players that consistently find stockfish moves like those. Keep up the great content Nelson and don’t let those games distract from the fact that we love the vids you’re putting out! Love the rating climbs!
@@johnyoung5392 Last time Nelson did a rating climb, he met a player who was cheating. The player's friend wrote to Nelson and said that the time management looked weird because he was cooking rice.
@@09185-z average Joe takes more time to make moves whereas cheaters take exactly 3-5 seconds to make a top move. That's typically the time it takes for them to plug in the engine movies
100% a rice cooker, the time usage was a big give away. Also the two bad moves, I think you are right about them moving the wrong Pawn and as for the Bishop move, next move he moved it one square further, I believe he miss clicked.
That rice cooker game sure felt like I was watching a bot. Slow strangulation. Bots seem to highly value the bishop pair and use them like a scalpel. Also, it seems rare to see someone rated around 1100 ELO execute a pawn storm near perfectly.
@@OriginalAndroidPhone Like a year ago he played a cheater who then sent in a letter explaining he was cooking rice in his rice cooker and that's why he took so long to play an obvious move
@@charlesh2215 "Like a year ago he played a cheater who then sent in a letter explaining he was cooking rice in his rice cooker and that's why he took so long to play an obvious move" - joseph gaetano
@@charlesh2215 It's just a reference/inside joke to another cheater Nelson played that used cooking rice as an excuse to why they took a long time to play an easy move compared to all the computer moves they played during the game.
@@11ldevendrakumaragrawal27I can't share the link because of youtube, but it's titled: "We Need To Talk About This" and the rice cooker part is at 3:40. However, watching the whole video would be better for context.
The telling sign is not necessarily how they play the brilliant moves, it's how they spend time on the obvious moves. Like the ending moves when no complex plans are needed or necessary and anyone with some relatively basic chess experience should play right away. That's when you know the water has evaporated and rice is burning....
Yes! I find it wild when my opponent slowly squeezes me and right when they get to play the move they've clearly been setting up for the past 5 moves, they start playing on their own and take forever to find it. I'm just like, you've been brilliantly paralyzing me the whole game to play that, why are you hesitating? I know people's skill sets are varied, but the most obvious cheaters to me are when they play like Magnus Carlson in the opening and then start blundering obvious endgames or when they blundering common openings and then turn into Carlson in the second half.
You couldn't ask for clearer cheating than this. Unfortunate to see, but very common in longer formats. At least they made it obvious enough to avoid the doubt of maybe having thrown the game or something. Thanks for the content, as always!
Thanks for another instructive video & really appreciate the " advance " showing . As of 9am UK time on Fri 20th ( Sept) , the " cheater"s account was still active & they are a diamond member ! Looked at other games they played after you & seems to me to be either rice or a different player 😵💫 . Hard to believe they just had a great game against you !
Hey, Nelsi, I worry about your health. For a long time you have this cough. Please, have a gastroenterologist consultation, it could be problems with high acidity in your esophagus. It could be more dangerous than it seems. Take care, mate and get well soon.
You are not paranoid, that was a rice cooker… Stockfish Best move after best move after move. Account made a month ago. Short average incremental turn. You a 2400-ish losing against an 1100… That’s like a Mike Tyson getting beat up by a 5 year old
The cheater was so obvious. Stockfish just completely disregarding human playing principles and slowly crushing with pawn push after pawn push, i have absolutely no idea why people do it. Whats to be learned, or gained... Really sad that people do that. Anyway a great video Nelson as usual, im glad you include the cheats as you always put up a good fight and theres a lot to be learned.
My guess is they are absolute losers in life who are so dumb that they need SOMETHING in which they are good. It's so pathetic that 1000 rating is what they consider ultra successful.
It takes one evening to learn enough theory to get equal positions. I actually enjoy playing black side of FLA, you get a ton of initiative for a pawn.
i love when people do fried liver because of the traxler. wish more people used fried liver on me. used to see it all the time in the 700s im now floating 900-1000 and rarely get it.
When I saw h4, the alarm bells went off. 1100s dont make those type of moves in such positions . Hanging the pawn to the knight to realize several moves later a winning position and to calculate all that in seconds ? Pushing the wrong pawn was a mouse slip, losing big advantage, but that didnt matter. The rest was mostly top engine moves in complicated positions. Takes the fun away from instructive rating climb which is supposed to be against humans. I come to watch AverageJoe demolish low rated players just like a Roman watching Maximus dispatching run of the mill gladiators and not succumbing to the vampire barbarian gladiator.
Hey Nelson, I've got my rating from 800-1200 by watching your vids and I beat a 1500 today. You're by far the best chess learning channel on RUclips and I've learnt so much from watching, don't let the rice cookers get you down. Love your content
@@adaman360If I remember correctly, one day Nelson played against someone that looked like a cheater and Nelson asked that person why even obvious moves took them some time and the other person answered he was also busy with cooking rice between the moves.
An 1100 can get 90% accuracy but only when an opponent is making mistakes and not in this situation with these perfect pawn moves. I was firm that the other 1000 was legit but I think this is a clear cheater.
That’s not necessarily true. I just learned to play on June 26 and only rated 1100 so far but I have had quite a few (maybe like 1 of every 20) games where I get 90+ accuracy with opponent getting mid 80s or better with over 20 moves each. I don’t think accuracy is a great judge of someone cheating especially because for example playing the Jobava or the Caro I can get 90% pretty regularly but playing the Catalan or kings Indian it’s super rare I get a 90. That said, Nelson definitely got cheated lol
@@giacalonebuilding4443 you get 90 because your opponents are playing inaccurate moves. Accuracy becomes misleading if someone plays on when lost which is why your opponents might have 80% to lose. If you played a 2000+ you’d never expect to get 90%
@@Ceidonianphysicist that’s fair enough. I was just pointing out that is possible to get 90s with opponents playing mostly good chess (maybe 2 inaccuracies and no mistake on 20-30 move games). That said, Nelson taking the H pawn was an inaccuracy that snowballed into losing the game, and I think him being a master if he wasn’t streaming and having fun and playing seriously he would have seen it.
No question this guy cheated. You can tell by the speed and accuracy of the moves combined with the complexity, removes any reasonable doubt. The first loss was legitimate due to streaming and a rook blunder. This one just an obvious cheater. What a shame:
If I were you dealing with obvious cheaters, I’d consider sending a quick and direct message to them saying “Please stop using computer assistance”. I think that maybe calling them out directly might jolt them a bit. Just a thought. Thanks for your amazing content!
I recently came across your channel and have been watching a lot. They are very informative and instructive. Since watching your videos I have been playing extremely well in my opinion. All but one game I have played with accuracy in the 80’s and 90’s some very high 90’s. The evaluation has been rating my play between 1800 and 2150. Pretty good for a player who has never been above 1600 and is currently 1350ish. Thank you Nelson!!!
i swear to god 1000-1200 is a cesspool of cheaters.... i guess you could argue that they might be smurfs, but the reality is that it's both and it's literal elo hell
@@RhombicChthulhuSONICwhat is the trick? I’ve been stuck below 1100 for months. I’ll be playing well just for my opponent to “switch gears” and start playing like a god in the end game and then I lose all the elo I gained in my previous couple of wins
@@claypennington602 The thing about that ELO range is everyone has parts of the game they're good at and parts of the game they're bad at - if they were worse at the parts they're good at then they'd be below 1000, and if they were better at the ones they're bad at they'd be 1500. A lot of players at that level are good at endgames. Therefore you have two options, get better at endgames yourself, or else analyze your games to find out where you're falling apart and blundering.
@@WheatGrinding yeah I’m one of the guys that’s good at endgames. It’s my middle game that’s weak, especially if there has been a major departure from a main line, I get too locked in on trying to force certain tactics and miss opportunities that arise as the board develops. I recognize the difference between ending up in a bad position because I played bad and ending up in a bad position because someone started finding insane tactics when I’m up and have been outplaying them all game
@@claypennington602 If they find insane tactics then you might consider watching videos to understand positional play better. I found that was a big thing that helped me over the hump from 1100 up to 1400 where I am now - if you're ahead, lock them out. Don't give them counterplay. Because usually an insane tactic doesn't come out of nowhere, the position allowed them to get there.
I feel like I've seen that AES400 name & image before. It says their name is now NIN0019 and they recently closed their account - perhaps got word they were caught cooking rice?
They changed their account name and closed the profile. Definitely realized who you were after the fact and got scared Guy is a certified risotto enthusiast
(Last game) This is the only game that i think i would have played the middle game better than you because at the end you demonstrated all the moves in my mind. But i would not be about to see the checkmate like you did. Kind of proud of myself here and thank you for sharing these videos!
Definitely rice. I was already thinking “how is this guy so damn good” early in the game. I just dropped back below 1300 and that guy was playing light years stronger than me lol
I pulled up your rice cooker and there's no way you make a string of engine moves that fast. The first half of the game must have just been getting the water up to temperature as it wasn't anything special. Your knight move basically set up for the pawn advance which wasn't particularly hard to see, then the timing goes all weird with too many moves people don't usually find in 5 seconds. Executing an attack like that his HARD and I wouldn't expect even high level masters to calculate that fast. Would have had some pauses to work it out. Only other thing that was observable is in his games today he doesn't have rice with every one of them. His next two games were far more normal with attendant blunders and no strings of perfect moves.
Great, instructive video as always! Something funky was cooking in that rice for sure. I'm not sure what, but some of those moves looked crazy. Others have suggested it might have been a Smurf account. Maybe so, it's hard to say, we'll never know for sure. All I know is I have no problem with you declaring that a Rice. Their end game was super weird.
Thanks for another instructive video & I really appreciate the " advance " viewing . As far as the "cheater " is concerned , as of 9am UK time on Fri 20th ( Sept) , their account is still active & they are a diamond member . Have looked at games they played after you & from those games it was either rice or a different player 😵💫 .
It was obviously a cheater. No 1000 plays these top engine pawn moves and calculates everything in seconds. Even the pawn sacrifice to get a very big positional advantage..
I believe the sheer uniformity in time during the last few dozen moves are more than suspicious enough, together with the early account it makes it at least worthy of reporting. Also the person has only one friend in the account, sharing the same naming style (AES400 - MSD400), but the other account is less than 700 Elo Rapid. I'll go make some popcorn and keep my eye on the developments.
Not the case here, but I just got a 94.7 accuracy rating in a game that was almost at the endgame and I'm rubbish (960 rating). Sometimes even we can fluke a good game. I'm mainly talking about your suspicions in other rating climb vids I've seen. Love the channel by the way!
Absolutely true, I think with this situation it was the fact he had 94% accuracy against Nelson who had 85%. He was playing these moves instantly, even with the pawn push. Most times you can get really high accuracy because the opponent is making mistakes, but this wasn’t the case
As a 1000, u can get a 94 acurracy. That's not so strange. But in a game like that, it's impossible. I am 1500 and can't see the ideas behind that moves. 100% cheating.
Yeah, the only way for a 1100 player to get 94% accuracy is to have their opponent to blunder a lot. That way the best moves are extremely obvious and the machine most of the time would play a play same that a human or a move that is not MUCH stronger.
its possible but from their play it seems like at least two of the big "mistakes" they made were misclicks. the top engine moves were similar but they just moved it to squares next to the correct one by accident
I like the fritz variation against fried liver attack. Stockfish thinks the fried liver attack position is around equal, but as black it's really nonsense to allow the opponent to have so many attacking chances. The Na5 main line attacking the c4 bishop requires a lot of theory. The counter-offensive property of the fritz variation is really nice, the position is decent even if white defense correctly, and if white doesn't know the line, he'll probably lose. Another rice cooker now is quite interesting
As a Nelson Lopez student I welcome a Fried Liver attack on f7. If opponent wants to throw away two developed pieces, never interrupt the enemy when they are making a mistake.
Love the chill and informative content, Nelsi! One request I do have is, can you turn the sound of the chess board down, or your voice up? I find it's a little jarring to hear over your voice. Thanks again for the content! Looking forward to more :)
The stockfish best moves are the best moves is one plays like stockfish, but not necessarily if one can't ,and would not find the winning continuation.
It's hard to comprehend for a elo like 900. 28:21 black queen to d4 only option white will have to move queen to e2 then bishop to c4. Canf we take the queen this way. Please tell if I'm missing something. Got it. Bishop is there to protect the queen. My little mind is learning.
As an update: The Rice Cooker has changed their username since this video was released! It also seems like they don't always cheat, they are one of those smarter Rice Cookers and seem to escape detection for longer.
I'm a 1000 elo now and ocassional get 90% games like he did in those video. That to me was exciting but also demotivating lol. Like I'm kinda close but at the same time it will take years like you said lol.
I agree with stockfish just squeezing you to death, allowing zero counterplay. Occasionally I'll get the urge to get stomped by max level stockfish and that's exactly what it does, it just plays small moves that give you no room to play, usually seemingly useless or outright "bad" pawn moves. Something I've learned when playing against stockfish is to never take pieces that it "hangs"
Struggle might have been the wrong word. But clearly it is not always a walk in the park. I like Nelsons videos because he explains all possible good moves and why he decided one over another.
Surprised you left that xray/pin lined up for so many moves after spotting the issue before like move 5. I think the lesson here is to just break the pin early instead of hoping for tactics. Also, always sac the exchange.
The account is less than six months old, and I didn’t see the tempo of their games. If it’s about 100 games to get to 1100 it’s possible that they are an OtB club player or something - and just haven’t reached their real rating yet… They weren’t set up to counter some of the follow up moves you were talking about (which seemed quite powerful as you mentioned them)… But I don’t think you were being salty on that one. Worth reporting.
Cheating is so commonplace that everyone knows how to try to avoid being caught. Mostly I just solve chess puzzles. The idea of competing against people I can’t see doesn’t appeal much to me.
Its honestly so aggravating how many cheaters there are just playing random games like that.. it's often difficult to tell (unlike this dude..) and it really makes you wonder how to assess your own elo rating. What do they even get out of it? These games aren't tournaments, there is no money in it or anything.
The few times he didn't plat the best move, he probably just read the board wrong or mouse-slipped... mixed up the two pawns, dropped the bishop one square short (corrected on the next move),...
How new the rice cooker was, I'd look at how many games they played. Maybe just a strong player with a new account. They did not play perfectly, but if they don't usually play that strong, then probably rice with some few random human moves sprinkled in to make it look less ricey.
I didn't think the first player you lost to in this series was a cheater but this was indeed some rice, straight outta the rice cooker, fluffed up with a fork, ready to serve jasmine bro
I think there's a very small chance that it wasn't a cheater, just a good player on an alternate account who realized that if his smurf account gets found out and banned then the main one could also get banned . Would explain why they felt the need to close it and change its name instead of just making a new one and moving on like cheaters usually do.
Some of those moves would have to require some very advanced scotch theory that I've never seen in my life in order to play some of those insane moves, F3 and a4 especially. A strong player would never extend like that and play some potentially weakening moves unless they knew 5-10 moves ahead. It's either advanced scotch theory or a cheater. I think there's probably 90% he's a cheater and the fact that he changed his account name shows that he knows what he did.
I suspect cheaters get a thrill out of playing badly and watching the bot make a comeback. That's why I would do it, anyway. I tried it with some computer cheap chess program on Yahoo chess in like 2000 (I resigned or re-match resigned to make up for it, I don't remember, but I did something). I was curious. For one, I wanted to know if the timing would work out for a 5 minute timer. It did. I think I stopped playing chess after that, for a very long time, unless I got irl opportunities (over the board).
I'm currently 1169 (trying to get to 1200 but keep betting slapped down to 1050). There have been some opponents where on game review they did moves, several in a row that just seemed out of sorts for the level we are at. Pretty sad if you are chess cheating at 1100. Can't say this happened but it seems like it has.
if you watch nelson's other videos there are tons of confirmed cheaters he has played against at a similar level as you so a lot of them were probably cheating in your case as well. check your game history and see if any of the opponents' accounts are banned then youll have your answer
same here! what up at 1300 once now I am yoyoing between 1150 and 1200. It also been a very long time I got a refund I did get many more while playing at the 800-900 level
At 10:45 I was thinking took e4. If black bishop takes knight, ignore it and push pawn for check, then win a rook and promote a new queen. If black doesn't take other rook to E1 for battery, and maybe knight e3? I dunno......what am I missing?
He said that move it was a blind spot, the whole board is my blind spot, started at 800, worked up to 1060 or so and have been knocked back down to 800's, wow.
On a previous rating climb Nelson stated that his opponents were reimbursed for lost rating points. I am not sure if they are notified of Nelson's actual status as well.
That was actually a full risotto
As a 1200 player, I’m very confident that rice was being cooked. I couldn’t keep up with the ideas behind their moves at all and never run into players that consistently find stockfish moves like those. Keep up the great content Nelson and don’t let those games distract from the fact that we love the vids you’re putting out! Love the rating climbs!
where did rice cooking come to mean cheating?
Same…I’m about the same level and never would have considered those moves.
@@johnyoung5392 Last time Nelson did a rating climb, he met a player who was cheating. The player's friend wrote to Nelson and said that the time management looked weird because he was cooking rice.
it could be smurf
@@isakoolssonthat's not what he asked lol
1000 player playing top engine moves in a complicated positions in a few seconds
😢is average joe a cheater
@@09185-z I mean, the points he takes from people automatically get refunded...😄
@@09185-z average Joe takes more time to make moves whereas cheaters take exactly 3-5 seconds to make a top move. That's typically the time it takes for them to plug in the engine movies
@@nathanrobinson4212really? thats awesome. i always felt bad
He’s a NM
100% a rice cooker, the time usage was a big give away. Also the two bad moves, I think you are right about them moving the wrong Pawn and as for the Bishop move, next move he moved it one square further, I believe he miss clicked.
But honestly, not beeing ironic or anything, what is the purpose of these cheaters? What are they winning actually by cheating?
That rice cooker game sure felt like I was watching a bot. Slow strangulation. Bots seem to highly value the bishop pair and use them like a scalpel.
Also, it seems rare to see someone rated around 1100 ELO execute a pawn storm near perfectly.
"Also, it seems rare to see someone rated around 1100 ELO execute a pawn storm near perfectly." While using almost no time.
@@gregkelton81 in Jobava London positions I usually find best moves for pawn storms. But that's my favourite opening
Yeah he did not play like a human.
can you explain the rice reference for cheaters pls
@@OriginalAndroidPhone
Like a year ago he played a cheater who then sent in a letter explaining he was cooking rice in his rice cooker and that's why he took so long to play an obvious move
This is what happens when they use a rice cooker rather than cook it on the stove.
what does rice cooker mean in this context?
@@charlesh2215 "Like a year ago he played a cheater who then sent in a letter explaining he was cooking rice in his rice cooker and that's why he took so long to play an obvious move"
- joseph gaetano
@@charlesh2215 It's just a reference/inside joke to another cheater Nelson played that used cooking rice as an excuse to why they took a long time to play an easy move compared to all the computer moves they played during the game.
@@lethallohn which video?
@@11ldevendrakumaragrawal27I can't share the link because of youtube, but it's titled: "We Need To Talk About This" and the rice cooker part is at 3:40. However, watching the whole video would be better for context.
The telling sign is not necessarily how they play the brilliant moves, it's how they spend time on the obvious moves. Like the ending moves when no complex plans are needed or necessary and anyone with some relatively basic chess experience should play right away. That's when you know the water has evaporated and rice is burning....
Yes! I find it wild when my opponent slowly squeezes me and right when they get to play the move they've clearly been setting up for the past 5 moves, they start playing on their own and take forever to find it. I'm just like, you've been brilliantly paralyzing me the whole game to play that, why are you hesitating?
I know people's skill sets are varied, but the most obvious cheaters to me are when they play like Magnus Carlson in the opening and then start blundering obvious endgames or when they blundering common openings and then turn into Carlson in the second half.
At around 41:30 - it took him 4 seconds to find the brilliant a5. Then it took him another 5 seconds to find the continuation of axb6? Makes no sense.
I love it when a cheater often turns from a grandmaster into a 7 y.o. blundering his pieces in the endgame, when they thought they already won.
You couldn't ask for clearer cheating than this. Unfortunate to see, but very common in longer formats. At least they made it obvious enough to avoid the doubt of maybe having thrown the game or something.
Thanks for the content, as always!
Thanks for another instructive video & really appreciate the " advance " showing . As of 9am UK time on Fri 20th ( Sept) , the " cheater"s account was still active & they are a diamond member ! Looked at other games they played after you & seems to me to be either rice or a different player 😵💫 . Hard to believe they just had a great game against you !
AES400 changed their name to NIN0019, their flag from Switzerland to Micronesia, and their picture to black, then closed their account.
Hey, Nelsi, I worry about your health. For a long time you have this cough. Please, have a gastroenterologist consultation, it could be problems with high acidity in your esophagus. It could be more dangerous than it seems. Take care, mate and get well soon.
Right??? He's coughing constantly.
Could be long covid? I remember he had it bad a while ago which is when the cough started?
A bunch of doctors here 🤣
lmaooooo the end of the video. u can tell Nelson was so thrown off by everything that he even forgot the outro.
The way he was manuevering his bishops tells me he was cooking something
Another day, another rice
How did u make dis 3 days ago if this was made 2 hrs ago?
@@Randombaconplayzz this video is actually member first
What does rice stand for?
You are not paranoid, that was a rice cooker… Stockfish Best move after best move after move. Account made a month ago. Short average incremental turn. You a 2400-ish losing against an 1100… That’s like a Mike Tyson getting beat up by a 5 year old
Wrong
@@lawrenceandrews4367 Explain why this is wrong? Do you not see that was a clear cheater?
@@Regulus37 it wasn't our king blunder a piece . until they review the same it cool
@@lawrenceandrews4367 43:33 hiw bout mate in one 🏅📯
Bro Predicted Mike Tyson Vs Jake Paul and Acting Like We Don't Notice
Amazing video! I’m looking forward to these every Monday.
Keep them coming Nelson!
"That's what it feels like to play Stockfish. You just feel squeezed."
I found that observation to be highly insightful. 👊
The cheater was so obvious. Stockfish just completely disregarding human playing principles and slowly crushing with pawn push after pawn push, i have absolutely no idea why people do it. Whats to be learned, or gained... Really sad that people do that. Anyway a great video Nelson as usual, im glad you include the cheats as you always put up a good fight and theres a lot to be learned.
My guess is they are absolute losers in life who are so dumb that they need SOMETHING in which they are good. It's so pathetic that 1000 rating is what they consider ultra successful.
h6 against the Italian is basically saying “I’ve been hit by the fried liver one too many times”
It takes one evening to learn enough theory to get equal positions. I actually enjoy playing black side of FLA, you get a ton of initiative for a pawn.
i love when people do fried liver because of the traxler. wish more people used fried liver on me. used to see it all the time in the 700s im now floating 900-1000 and rarely get it.
7:50 a con about castling is now your king is on the side with developed pieces
The only RUclips channel that i keep checking constantly for new uploads cmon nelson post another one
When I saw h4, the alarm bells went off. 1100s dont make those type of moves in such positions . Hanging the pawn to the knight to realize several moves later a winning position and to calculate all that in seconds ? Pushing the wrong pawn was a mouse slip, losing big advantage, but that didnt matter. The rest was mostly top engine moves in complicated positions. Takes the fun away from instructive rating climb which is supposed to be against humans. I come to watch AverageJoe demolish low rated players just like a Roman watching Maximus dispatching run of the mill gladiators and not succumbing to the vampire barbarian gladiator.
Yessss bro I love these videos. Best chess channel!
Cheater changed his name and closed his own account just now.
Woah
Well he had to get a refund for his membership yk to not lose money
Amazing - this must mean he watches the channel??.. Or someone told them.
I've been battling in the 1200s and your not joking. the 1100s were a pain to get through.
stay sharp, play smart, take care :)
Hey Nelson, I've got my rating from 800-1200 by watching your vids and I beat a 1500 today. You're by far the best chess learning channel on RUclips and I've learnt so much from watching, don't let the rice cookers get you down. Love your content
I love how Nelson's community just goes along with the rice term 😭
What does rice cooking mean?
@@adaman360 just look up the vid titled "my opponent was cooking rice during the game" from this channel
@@adaman360If I remember correctly, one day Nelson played against someone that looked like a cheater and Nelson asked that person why even obvious moves took them some time and the other person answered he was also busy with cooking rice between the moves.
An 1100 can get 90% accuracy but only when an opponent is making mistakes and not in this situation with these perfect pawn moves. I was firm that the other 1000 was legit but I think this is a clear cheater.
That’s not necessarily true. I just learned to play on June 26 and only rated 1100 so far but I have had quite a few (maybe like 1 of every 20) games where I get 90+ accuracy with opponent getting mid 80s or better with over 20 moves each. I don’t think accuracy is a great judge of someone cheating especially because for example playing the Jobava or the Caro I can get 90% pretty regularly but playing the Catalan or kings Indian it’s super rare I get a 90. That said, Nelson definitely got cheated lol
@@giacalonebuilding4443 you get 90 because your opponents are playing inaccurate moves. Accuracy becomes misleading if someone plays on when lost which is why your opponents might have 80% to lose. If you played a 2000+ you’d never expect to get 90%
@@Ceidonianphysicist that’s fair enough. I was just pointing out that is possible to get 90s with opponents playing mostly good chess (maybe 2 inaccuracies and no mistake on 20-30 move games). That said, Nelson taking the H pawn was an inaccuracy that snowballed into losing the game, and I think him being a master if he wasn’t streaming and having fun and playing seriously he would have seen it.
No question this guy cheated. You can tell by the speed and accuracy of the moves combined with the complexity, removes any reasonable doubt. The first loss was legitimate due to streaming and a rook blunder. This one just an obvious cheater. What a shame:
If I were you dealing with obvious cheaters, I’d consider sending a quick and direct message to them saying “Please stop using computer assistance”. I think that maybe calling them out directly might jolt them a bit. Just a thought. Thanks for your amazing content!
I recently came across your channel and have been watching a lot.
They are very informative and instructive.
Since watching your videos I have been playing extremely well in my opinion. All but one game I have played with accuracy in the 80’s and 90’s some very high 90’s. The evaluation has been rating my play between 1800 and 2150. Pretty good for a player who has never been above 1600 and is currently 1350ish.
Thank you Nelson!!!
Welcome aboard! Way to go!
i swear to god 1000-1200 is a cesspool of cheaters.... i guess you could argue that they might be smurfs, but the reality is that it's both and it's literal elo hell
Yeah for real. It took me months to break past that range. I'm at 1700 now and there is almost no cheaters now.
@@RhombicChthulhuSONICwhat is the trick? I’ve been stuck below 1100 for months. I’ll be playing well just for my opponent to “switch gears” and start playing like a god in the end game and then I lose all the elo I gained in my previous couple of wins
@@claypennington602 The thing about that ELO range is everyone has parts of the game they're good at and parts of the game they're bad at - if they were worse at the parts they're good at then they'd be below 1000, and if they were better at the ones they're bad at they'd be 1500.
A lot of players at that level are good at endgames. Therefore you have two options, get better at endgames yourself, or else analyze your games to find out where you're falling apart and blundering.
@@WheatGrinding yeah I’m one of the guys that’s good at endgames. It’s my middle game that’s weak, especially if there has been a major departure from a main line, I get too locked in on trying to force certain tactics and miss opportunities that arise as the board develops.
I recognize the difference between ending up in a bad position because I played bad and ending up in a bad position because someone started finding insane tactics when I’m up and have been outplaying them all game
@@claypennington602 If they find insane tactics then you might consider watching videos to understand positional play better. I found that was a big thing that helped me over the hump from 1100 up to 1400 where I am now - if you're ahead, lock them out. Don't give them counterplay. Because usually an insane tactic doesn't come out of nowhere, the position allowed them to get there.
Every move at the end of that game was 7 seconds. 100% cooking rice.
I don't get why people cheat. What do you get out of it? You aren't actually even winning, the computer is.
Exactly! The cheater isn't even playing, he just executes the engine's moves: boring and completely pointless except for some _schadenfreude._
I feel like I've seen that AES400 name & image before. It says their name is now NIN0019 and they recently closed their account - perhaps got word they were caught cooking rice?
I actually ate rice this morning
34:25 why is f5 a good move? Qxe5…
Usually your explanations are so good, specifically for lower rated players, this game became hard to follow.
Id like to see you play the Nimzo Indian defence and the karo kann. Black openings against D4 and E4, the first two openings I learned for black! :)
Rice rice
never nice
fool me once
but never twice 😅
They changed their account name and closed the profile. Definitely realized who you were after the fact and got scared
Guy is a certified risotto enthusiast
i wouldn't have crossed 1100 without your help. these videos are very relaxing and your voice is so nice!
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I always enjoy your videos, thanks.
(Last game) This is the only game that i think i would have played the middle game better than you because at the end you demonstrated all the moves in my mind. But i would not be about to see the checkmate like you did. Kind of proud of myself here and thank you for sharing these videos!
Your face at 1:01:06 is my resting chess face. 😂 love the instructions on how to think through the moves. 👍
@chessvibes can I look back at some if these games and play around trying moves etc?
Would I need a game link of some sort?
I love your way of explaining ❤
Definitely rice. I was already thinking “how is this guy so damn good” early in the game. I just dropped back below 1300 and that guy was playing light years stronger than me lol
Hey Nelsi, can you please tell me how to draw the arrows and highlight the squares
Right click
I pulled up your rice cooker and there's no way you make a string of engine moves that fast. The first half of the game must have just been getting the water up to temperature as it wasn't anything special. Your knight move basically set up for the pawn advance which wasn't particularly hard to see, then the timing goes all weird with too many moves people don't usually find in 5 seconds. Executing an attack like that his HARD and I wouldn't expect even high level masters to calculate that fast. Would have had some pauses to work it out.
Only other thing that was observable is in his games today he doesn't have rice with every one of them. His next two games were far more normal with attendant blunders and no strings of perfect moves.
Great, instructive video as always! Something funky was cooking in that rice for sure. I'm not sure what, but some of those moves looked crazy. Others have suggested it might have been a Smurf account. Maybe so, it's hard to say, we'll never know for sure. All I know is I have no problem with you declaring that a Rice. Their end game was super weird.
Whats a smurf account?
@@philmenzies2477 High elo player playing with a low elo account to play against low elo players is called smurfing
Why is cheating referred to as rice??
@@Closertotruth2 Because when Nelson was playing a cheater he referred to the time delay between moves as he was cooking rice
@@philmenzies2477 Thanks for the info.
It's amazing how quick they close their accounts.
that was some fried rice with general tao chicken on the side
Thanks for another instructive video & I really appreciate the " advance " viewing . As far as the "cheater " is concerned , as of 9am UK time on Fri 20th ( Sept) , their account is still active & they are a diamond member . Have looked at games they played after you & from those games it was either rice or a different player 😵💫 .
It was obviously a cheater. No 1000 plays these top engine pawn moves and calculates everything in seconds. Even the pawn sacrifice to get a very big positional advantage..
@@sh0ker couldn’t agree more ! Can’t remember if Nelson reported it ! I’ll check again & monitor that account 😡
@@sh0ker just looked again , Nelson did not report at the time & account still active as at 1.20pm UK time !
I believe the sheer uniformity in time during the last few dozen moves are more than suspicious enough, together with the early account it makes it at least worthy of reporting. Also the person has only one friend in the account, sharing the same naming style (AES400 - MSD400), but the other account is less than 700 Elo Rapid. I'll go make some popcorn and keep my eye on the developments.
@@flutiyama guess 400 is the initial ( new to chess.😂 ) rating & the letters , their initials , if so , boy does AES learn quickly !!!! 😵💫
Not the case here, but I just got a 94.7 accuracy rating in a game that was almost at the endgame and I'm rubbish (960 rating). Sometimes even we can fluke a good game. I'm mainly talking about your suspicions in other rating climb vids I've seen. Love the channel by the way!
Absolutely true, I think with this situation it was the fact he had 94% accuracy against Nelson who had 85%. He was playing these moves instantly, even with the pawn push. Most times you can get really high accuracy because the opponent is making mistakes, but this wasn’t the case
As a 1000, u can get a 94 acurracy. That's not so strange. But in a game like that, it's impossible. I am 1500 and can't see the ideas behind that moves. 100% cheating.
@@garzyfreestyle540wrong
Yeah, the only way for a 1100 player to get 94% accuracy is to have their opponent to blunder a lot. That way the best moves are extremely obvious and the machine most of the time would play a play same that a human or a move that is not MUCH stronger.
@@sifon86 That makes a lot of sense!
What if it's a much higher rated otb player in a new account or even migrating from another platform like lichess?
its possible but from their play it seems like at least two of the big "mistakes" they made were misclicks. the top engine moves were similar but they just moved it to squares next to the correct one by accident
I like the fritz variation against fried liver attack. Stockfish thinks the fried liver attack position is around equal, but as black it's really nonsense to allow the opponent to have so many attacking chances. The Na5 main line attacking the c4 bishop requires a lot of theory. The counter-offensive property of the fritz variation is really nice, the position is decent even if white defense correctly, and if white doesn't know the line, he'll probably lose.
Another rice cooker now is quite interesting
As a Nelson Lopez student I welcome a Fried Liver attack on f7. If opponent wants to throw away two developed pieces, never interrupt the enemy when they are making a mistake.
Love the chill and informative content, Nelsi!
One request I do have is, can you turn the sound of the chess board down, or your voice up? I find it's a little jarring to hear over your voice.
Thanks again for the content! Looking forward to more :)
The stockfish best moves are the best moves is one plays like stockfish, but not necessarily if one can't ,and would not find the winning continuation.
It's hard to comprehend for a elo like 900. 28:21 black queen to d4 only option white will have to move queen to e2 then bishop to c4. Canf we take the queen this way.
Please tell if I'm missing something.
Got it. Bishop is there to protect the queen.
My little mind is learning.
As an update:
The Rice Cooker has changed their username since this video was released!
It also seems like they don't always cheat, they are one of those smarter Rice Cookers and seem to escape detection for longer.
That was my thought too
88 wins and only rated 1083 Geeesh love your videos Nelson keep them coming..
Bro he is a master he has made a new account
It's depressing to me that you have 88 wins and only one loss, yet haven't even reached 1100. I'm going to be at 600 for a few years at my rate.
but you have Solar Power ! and tremendously interesting mushrooms
@@PMA65537I don't even know how to respond to that
I'm a 1000 elo now and ocassional get 90% games like he did in those video. That to me was exciting but also demotivating lol. Like I'm kinda close but at the same time it will take years like you said lol.
92 wins and 3 rice cookers. Good job man!
I agree with stockfish just squeezing you to death, allowing zero counterplay. Occasionally I'll get the urge to get stomped by max level stockfish and that's exactly what it does, it just plays small moves that give you no room to play, usually seemingly useless or outright "bad" pawn moves. Something I've learned when playing against stockfish is to never take pieces that it "hangs"
It's a comfort to see you struggle at 1100 as a chess master, because I struggle at 700
He not really struggling, the one dude was clearly cheating that beat him, last game he ended quickly
Struggle might have been the wrong word. But clearly it is not always a walk in the park. I like Nelsons videos because he explains all possible good moves and why he decided one over another.
I just discovered this channel last month. 946 videos. How am I supposed to catch up?
You're in luck because he slowed down is uploads. I been having to watch older videos to fill the time
946 monitors should cover it.
@@imlostlmao Are you buying them for me?
I still remember the rice cooker video love that it is a saying now.Did they end up getting banned or is it still undetermined?
at 33:50 would it have been better to re-route the knight to h6 or is there something I'm missing?
How about the Duras gambit? Or a Jerome? Not sure if you're already at too high an Elo to play nonsense openings, but they can catch people off guard.
Taking his time to set up his engine.
That was a full blown gourmet risotto he had on the go there. What a shame. Thanks for another great instructional video though!
Surprised you left that xray/pin lined up for so many moves after spotting the issue before like move 5. I think the lesson here is to just break the pin early instead of hoping for tactics. Also, always sac the exchange.
Bring back Chess Adventures please!
The account is less than six months old, and I didn’t see the tempo of their games. If it’s about 100 games to get to 1100 it’s possible that they are an OtB club player or something - and just haven’t reached their real rating yet…
They weren’t set up to counter some of the follow up moves you were talking about (which seemed quite powerful as you mentioned them)…
But I don’t think you were being salty on that one. Worth reporting.
Hey Nelson! Could you add the center game at the list of openings that you'll play? Also great content, as always
Cheating is so commonplace that everyone knows how to try to avoid being caught. Mostly I just solve chess puzzles. The idea of competing against people I can’t see doesn’t appeal much to me.
Yup and even if they’re not hiding it and making it super obvious they still won’t get banned. At least not immediately or anytime soon.
What is rice on your stats? Thanks for the video!
As a D class myself I think the early game 5 bishop was anticipating your knight to c3 then looking like a reverse ruy lopez train wreck.
Its honestly so aggravating how many cheaters there are just playing random games like that.. it's often difficult to tell (unlike this dude..) and it really makes you wonder how to assess your own elo rating. What do they even get out of it? These games aren't tournaments, there is no money in it or anything.
The wrost cheaters are the smurf account who make speedrun video and destroy begginers for there fangirl on youtube.
Defenetly putting the rice from the ricecooker to the plate😅
I’d like to see a game or two where you play the Colle system
Just reach 1000🎉
The few times he didn't plat the best move, he probably just read the board wrong or mouse-slipped... mixed up the two pawns, dropped the bishop one square short (corrected on the next move),...
How new the rice cooker was, I'd look at how many games they played. Maybe just a strong player with a new account. They did not play perfectly, but if they don't usually play that strong, then probably rice with some few random human moves sprinkled in to make it look less ricey.
again Nelson's getting all the rice cookers smh 😂
RUclips doesn't understand chronological order. If you could place the number in the title it would help. Great teaching.
I didn't think the first player you lost to in this series was a cheater but this was indeed some rice, straight outta the rice cooker, fluffed up with a fork, ready to serve jasmine bro
I think there's a very small chance that it wasn't a cheater, just a good player on an alternate account who realized that if his smurf account gets found out and banned then the main one could also get banned . Would explain why they felt the need to close it and change its name instead of just making a new one and moving on like cheaters usually do.
Some of those moves would have to require some very advanced scotch theory that I've never seen in my life in order to play some of those insane moves, F3 and a4 especially. A strong player would never extend like that and play some potentially weakening moves unless they knew 5-10 moves ahead.
It's either advanced scotch theory or a cheater. I think there's probably 90% he's a cheater and the fact that he changed his account name shows that he knows what he did.
I suspect cheaters get a thrill out of playing badly and watching the bot make a comeback. That's why I would do it, anyway. I tried it with some computer cheap chess program on Yahoo chess in like 2000 (I resigned or re-match resigned to make up for it, I don't remember, but I did something). I was curious. For one, I wanted to know if the timing would work out for a 5 minute timer. It did. I think I stopped playing chess after that, for a very long time, unless I got irl opportunities (over the board).
yeah guy literally changed his name to nin0019 and closed the account. definite rice.
When an 1100 has a centipawn strength of Magnus, you know what is up. =)
This is precisely the Elo I'm hardstuck at before getting sharply knocked down.
Fun fact: 'Rice Cooker' is a nickname for the OLL 52 Rubik's Cube case and algorithm.
Plz play the Caro kann defense
Can you play the caro kann?
I'm currently 1169 (trying to get to 1200 but keep betting slapped down to 1050). There have been some opponents where on game review they did moves, several in a row that just seemed out of sorts for the level we are at. Pretty sad if you are chess cheating at 1100. Can't say this happened but it seems like it has.
if you watch nelson's other videos there are tons of confirmed cheaters he has played against at a similar level as you so a lot of them were probably cheating in your case as well. check your game history and see if any of the opponents' accounts are banned then youll have your answer
same here! what up at 1300 once now I am yoyoing between 1150 and 1200. It also been a very long time I got a refund I did get many more while playing at the 800-900 level
Maybe you can play the petrov defence yourself in the future?
At 10:45 I was thinking took e4.
If black bishop takes knight, ignore it and push pawn for check, then win a rook and promote a new queen.
If black doesn't take other rook to E1 for battery, and maybe knight e3? I dunno......what am I missing?
Hey Nelson. Can you play the kings gambit.
He said that move it was a blind spot, the whole board is my blind spot, started at 800, worked up to 1060 or so and have been knocked back down to 800's, wow.
Are your opponents told before or after the match that you’re actually an NM?
They’d have to check his info to know at all.
On a previous rating climb Nelson stated that his opponents were reimbursed for lost rating points. I am not sure if they are notified of Nelson's actual status as well.