Audi guy through and through. Love estates, especially the fast ones. Did I know the RS4 was going to lose? Yes. Did I know it would lose comprehensively? Yes. Did I hope it wouldn't lose? Yes. RS for life, but that M3 Touring is so good looking. I pray they dont make an M5 Touring, otherwise my beloved RS6 will be in trouble.
@@Mika-jo5ix yeah it did. I meant that the M5 is a direct comparison to the RS6, the M3 is a little smaller. But performance wise, the RS models are in trouble. I haven’t seen the RS6 performance race yet
Raising the stakes by adding crew members to off set the power difference was brilliant. Having all those guys in the back, got me thinking we never see what the crew does behind the scenes. It would be cool to see a behind the scenes episode about all that has to happen for us to enjoy these videos. Including what it takes to get Yani there.
well are some aspects to debate here : first obviously the differences in price is quite significant and not fair so one could argue that to match the price of BMW, Audi could get an performance up-graded kit (ECU + air filter + exhaust or whatever) to match the performance of BMW and then results will differ of course.. otherwise for me to choose the BMW would mean to change first that ugly front nostrils with a PRIOR bumper and latter maybe add the more aggressive competition pack..
The power is down. Can’t understand why Audi doesn’t give the RS4 at least 500bhp. Easily achieved with that engine. Or just map it to 510bhp then rerun the test.
@@martynstevenson5391 and take into account, that audi (and merc) are usually much more truthful about their power figures. If audi says 600, it's no more than 610. When BMW says 630, it can be 660, 670 in normal conditions easily. Creative power testing (supposedly under absolutely worst conditions that are faar from average) let's BMW (and Porsche to a degree) to be recognized as "BmW PoWaaAaH KiiiNNNg" while their cars are frequently just much more powerful than the competition that on paper is somewhat similar. I wouldn't be surprised if that audi was making 460 bhp while bmw closer to 550. That's a huge gap, no wonder BMW walks it after start. It should be racing with RS6.
Not a BMW fan boy but that M3 thrashed the Audi in smithereens even with 3 passengers and being heavy as well... Amazing Job to BMW... And I love to see you guys drag race Mat and Yanny... Amazing videos, top notch car content ❤️
Thrashed? 0.4 seconds is fucking nothing. I bet the Audi isn't on Michelins and the BMW is. That would even things out straight away. Besides, in Competition Plus spec, my RS4 would dust that BMW in the bends and on the straights. But BMW fan boys do like they're baloney...
@@mauricetoussaint7283 0,4 seconds is nothing? My friend, that RS4 was DESTROYED by the M3 Touring on the drag race, on the rolling race and on the brake test... and you talked about the RS4 Competition? Go check the times of the RS4 and RS5 Competition and then compare the times with the M3 Touring Competition... guess what, it gets DESTROYED again! And you talked about corners... again, go check the lap times of both cars and come here to tell me the times... again, guess what... the RS4 and RS5 get DESTROYED again! My man, Audi fanboys are so delusional! Keep dreaming boy!!! 🤣
Not many realise that the Audi RS7 is the beast of the German category with BMW M5 beating it by a huge length and that included the Amg c63 Audi RS7 is to be caught doing a 0-60mph run in just 2.9 seconds stock which is insane !!!
Hi Matt, greetings from South Africa. LOVE your videos and commentary! I got a suggestion for your videos, it has probably been requested before but here it goes: Can you maybe add more info (0-100kmh, speed @finish, etc)? Your content is brilliant as is, but extra goodies would put it way above everything currently available. Have a great day and thank you for yet another great video
Always been an Audi guy, love the all-round “practical” ethos, the slightly posh style, the super safe quattro in the winter, etc. And I hate the new full digital cluster on the BMW, but damn, I would still choose the M3 in a heartbeat!
This is honestly one of the funniest videos on this channel, I love it !! 😂😂 I laughed sooo hard when more and more people got in the M3 hahaha. Mat´s trying to slow down the M3 and Yanni proves it is still quicker !! Hands down, you guys are great comedy gold !! 😂😂🤣🤣 Big fan of carwow, keep up the awesome work !! Greetings from Germany 😁
2023 RS7 ~ 2.9 Seconds to reach the 60mph mark. 2023 BMW M5 ~ 3.2 Seconds to reach the 60mph mark. 2023 C63 AMG ~ 3.4 Seconds to reach the 60mph mark. Several tests reported and approved to be the best timing possible on a levelled track with dry surface. ❤
2 fancy daddys racing their family machinery all the way down to the school on a Monday morning.... The kind of content we deserve! Thank you! Jajajajaja
I had driven the RS4 B8 awhile ago and had the M3 Touring for a weekend two weeks ago. I thought my memories of RS4 were a bit diluted, but this video cleared the doubts. The M3 Touring felt like from a complete different generation of power/tech/quality than the RS4 B8. Even the B9 feels miles behind on the tech/interior not to mention power output. M3 Touring is a phenomenal car, really really enjoyed it.
Both very nice cars. The M3 is a magnificent piece of engineering. That model of RS4 does seem to have been around though for quite a number of years though to be fair so as you would expect things move on. Think it must be due a replacement model very soon
See no disrespect to the lovely Jodi Kidd but seeing Yianni back in the drag races just makes so much more fun, he always wants to bigger and better and faster 😂 awesome video Mat, that M3 Touring is just something else
Considering the power and torque advantage for BMW , it's not that big diference when you cross that line , that Audi is fast ,can't wait to see the new model.
Matt, please bring the Audi RS Performance versions and pit them against their equivalent BMW M Competition versions please... RS7 Perf vs M8 Competition for example or RS6 Perf vs M5 Competition etc...
I am just curious about the outcome, not a fanboy of either one of the brands. Audi seems to have made quite some improvements on the higher end RS models with more torque, power, efficiency and weight loss... Especially rs7 and rs6 models.
Nice video. Must admit I was expecting the m3 to win by more given that gen of rs4 came out in 2017 and so is a bit old now. Both look great and would happily take either!! 😂
The BMW is a gorgeous car no doubt but my personal choice will be the Audi, just my preference really. I think that for the extra 15k in price the Audi can be spiced up and be competitive. For example a stage 2 remap, exhaust, intake etc. the power output will be around 510bhp and 720nm or if you want some uniqueness you can do a full ABT conversion. Anyway well done BMW for building the M3 Touring 👏
It's fast enough and most buying are buying for ease of use and necessity. It's all well and great having more bhp but the reliability drops and the warranty disappears which you need. ThBMWmw more than the Audi. It's all the car you need and the only reason to get an upgrade say stage 2 is bragging rights and social media posts. As that's the only time you will care for others. What a fast car to tune don't buy a 90k 2.2-ton one to start with.
£15k will pretty much double BHP and torque on that Audi. I saw Pols did Stage 1 for £800 with 530bhp. BRPerformance did Stage 2 (Milltek, intake and map) that dynoed at 573Hp and 875Nm
@@redlinethin the transfer box on the Audi is not strong enough to cope with that level of torque, past 720-750 they tend to break. The standard charge cooling system is also very poor and many upgrades available that are decent. The S58 has far more headroom for tuning and is much stronger engine. They make 750 hp JUST with decat and a tune,
As a prior G80 M3 CX owner in the US, I saw this coming. The M3 is underrated HP wise and the ZedF trans is just so efficient. Love it, great video and all in fun
@@alenalavanja6543 bmw engines are better, its not all about hp, its the curve and where peak hp is at. Bmw m-engine in this m3 is a masterpiece. And carwow put the bmw m2 in dyno and it was 1 hp less then stated so thats not allways true
@@alenalavanja6543 Its not massively underrated, in fact I think its more about how they rate the power. It's more of a worst case scenario. High heat, poor fuel and air conditions(not AC like in the car, external air humidity/elevation etc). It could make another 30hp but at worst its this number.
Just bought a 2017 530i and after being a Mercedes fanboy my whole life I have finally converted to the dark side. They really are the ultimate driving machines.
@@glebvinnik1794 one has more power the other has less weight . What about rs6 vs m3 , the rs6 has more power and more torque right( and a v8 ) ? Trust me bro Audi don’t compete with bmw in term of performance, watch some carwow videos and u will see ,even Matt knows that
Starting price in The Netherlands 120k. In the past you would buy a house for that now its just enough for optionless m3 touring. And bmw sells a full option m4 for 190k euros. Thats 1 330i ffs.
@@Jason.cbr1000rr taxes in Norway. Teslas are cheap tho. No taxes or very low tax. 2023 model 3 costs 36k $ starting price of m3 touring 170k$ And norway have good public transport, guess its to make people use it more.
Also would be interesting to see if you spent an extra 10k on the RS4 bringing it up to a similar price point - how much impact would the Quattro competition sport exhaust and diff make? Does it shave off a second 0-60? Could also add ceramic breaks for stopping, and still be about the same price as the Beemer?
They did - in the UK an RS4C is the same price as an M3 - still 450hp. Same as it was in 2018 and probably always will be - it seems that's the level for an emissions compliant 2.9TFSI.
Newer faster, more powerful car wins 🤣🤔 I’ll never get over that front end unfortunately!!!! Which sucks because the car is a a weapon and a stunner from other angles. Always love an RS4 though too and surely in daily life it’s more than enough ❤
One thing to say: drive both cars and see for yourself the huge difference between them!!! BMW is not only faster but more engaging, more fun to drive…. Another level..!
Audi guy through and through. Love estates, especially the fast ones. Did I know the RS4 was going to lose? Yes. Did I know it would lose comprehensively? Yes. Did I hope it wouldn't lose? Yes. RS for life, but that M3 Touring is so good looking. I pray they dont make an M5 Touring, otherwise my beloved RS6 will be in trouble.
M3 also won against the rs6
the newer car always wins. a new rs4 will be better than the m3 and a new m5 will be better than rs6 until a new rs6. remember the rs3 vs a45amg
@@Mika-jo5ix yeah it did. I meant that the M5 is a direct comparison to the RS6, the M3 is a little smaller. But performance wise, the RS models are in trouble. I haven’t seen the RS6 performance race yet
M5 Touring is coming as a hybrid may be next year.
From an aesthetic point of view the Audi RS6 will remain unrivalled. Attractive estate wagons are known as Avant.
I knew the M3 was gonna win but holy crap, winning with 4 people in it is just mental!
And glad to see Yianni loved the car too 😂
Well done, you fxcking spoiled it☹️
It's not really that mental considering it has 700 nm of torque.
@@nlsdrf1290🤓
@@piercelawless2654 what did you achieve by commenting that? Everyone just thinks you're a 🔔end
@@nlsdrf1290 650 bro!
Don't know why, but absolutely love how Yianni and Mat manages to launch at the exact same moment in their drag races.
The launches looked so good!
Exactly its not frustrating to watch !
It takes a good few tries..
You’re definitely new. It hardly happens lol
Raising the stakes by adding crew members to off set the power difference was brilliant.
Having all those guys in the back, got me thinking we never see what the crew does behind the scenes. It would be cool to see a behind the scenes episode about all that has to happen for us to enjoy these videos. Including what it takes to get Yani there.
It was quite intense. The plot twist with adding passengers was great, well done.
The side profile and rear end of the bmw is superb
fr!
the audi looks better
NOPE
@@lxka.4388Never even in 1000 years
@@Diffrent-33 or even 10 millenium years?
The weight actually helped Yianni launch better . 🤣
yannis not fat....
@@minigiant8998 YEAH HE IS LOL
@@minigiant8998 come on mate, lying doesnt do ya any favours innit?
@@pieterdannaux8754 Yianni weighed 98kgs actually.
@@minigiant8998 Yianni is 98kgs you know
Everything about this M3 is gorgeous. Including the grill!.
Just another masterpiece from BMW!
the sound is shit
I agree
Especially when you see it in the flesh!
Another ugly beaver
Apart from that grill
The absolute best moment when matt loses as his girlfriend,..and Yanni wins!😂
Thank you for removing the high pass filter from the outside exhaust segments! It really does make the difference in the sound :D
No "Im Mat Watson, and your watching carwow" ?
Yanni is back. Always a great addition. Nice race fellas.
Yanni is a lovely guy.
🍻
Even with passengers that M3 is a monster 😂 M Power all day every day, awesome video guys!
No other way 🎉
well are some aspects to debate here : first obviously the differences in price is quite significant and not fair so one could argue that to match the price of BMW, Audi could get an performance up-graded kit (ECU + air filter + exhaust or whatever) to match the performance of BMW and then results will differ of course.. otherwise for me to choose the BMW would mean to change first that ugly front nostrils with a PRIOR bumper and latter maybe add the more aggressive competition pack..
The power is down. Can’t understand why Audi doesn’t give the RS4 at least 500bhp. Easily achieved with that engine. Or just map it to 510bhp then rerun the test.
@@martynstevenson5391 and take into account, that audi (and merc) are usually much more truthful about their power figures. If audi says 600, it's no more than 610. When BMW says 630, it can be 660, 670 in normal conditions easily. Creative power testing (supposedly under absolutely worst conditions that are faar from average) let's BMW (and Porsche to a degree) to be recognized as "BmW PoWaaAaH KiiiNNNg" while their cars are frequently just much more powerful than the competition that on paper is somewhat similar. I wouldn't be surprised if that audi was making 460 bhp while bmw closer to 550. That's a huge gap, no wonder BMW walks it after start. It should be racing with RS6.
@@martynstevenson5391yeah I remember when the B9 was announced I was like why it’s still 450hp the same as B8 RS4 while the C63s already has 510hp
M3 touring what a beauty with insane performance
kudos to BMW for making such a fabulous machine😍🤩
not a beauty. more like a powerful ugly beast
its a fugly car....but brilliant machine
Interesting how Mat is always moving the goalposts. He’s always gotta get a win.
Yeah, that's getting annoying for me, especially when he is the one losing. When he wins, that's it.
Almost like it’s the joke 🤯
@@chaz2985and it's a bad one
Gawd people are thick
wohl have been quite interesting to see the difference between the two with 5 people in the rs4 and 1 in the m3
Simultaneously entertaining and informative! Never really seen the effects of weight in such a way. Good job carwow!
Agreed was kinda astonished ngl!
Mat with the RS4: let´s do 45 launches
Mat with his GR Yaris: 1 launch is enough
😂😂
the race we’ve all been waiting for
And we all know who wins it already
Not really, it was so predictable
Naah
@@thundergun100 of course, BMW>>>>>
If the M340i could go toe to toe, its to be expected
Matts "Finally" was the funniest thing ever. The satisfaction in his face! 🤣
Not a BMW fan boy but that M3 thrashed the Audi in smithereens even with 3 passengers and being heavy as well... Amazing Job to BMW... And I love to see you guys drag race Mat and Yanny... Amazing videos, top notch car content ❤️
Thrashed? 0.4 seconds is fucking nothing. I bet the Audi isn't on Michelins and the BMW is. That would even things out straight away. Besides, in Competition Plus spec, my RS4 would dust that BMW in the bends and on the straights. But BMW fan boys do like they're baloney...
@@mauricetoussaint7283 0,4 seconds is nothing? My friend, that RS4 was DESTROYED by the M3 Touring on the drag race, on the rolling race and on the brake test... and you talked about the RS4 Competition? Go check the times of the RS4 and RS5 Competition and then compare the times with the M3 Touring Competition... guess what, it gets DESTROYED again! And you talked about corners... again, go check the lap times of both cars and come here to tell me the times... again, guess what... the RS4 and RS5 get DESTROYED again! My man, Audi fanboys are so delusional! Keep dreaming boy!!! 🤣
So nice to see Yanni back,normality and fun resumed 😅
Yianni’s face whenever he does the break test… priceless 😂🤕
Yianni the only one who knows Mat always jumps and doesn’t let him get away with it
😂😂😂😂Truly. He doesn't even say it sometimes, he just jumps exactly like Matt😂
Not many realise that the Audi RS7 is the beast of the German category with BMW M5 beating it by a huge length and that included the Amg c63
Audi RS7 is to be caught doing a 0-60mph run in just 2.9 seconds stock which is insane !!!
Hi Matt, greetings from South Africa. LOVE your videos and commentary! I got a suggestion for your videos, it has probably been requested before but here it goes: Can you maybe add more info (0-100kmh, speed @finish, etc)? Your content is brilliant as is, but extra goodies would put it way above everything currently available. Have a great day and thank you for yet another great video
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Always been an Audi guy, love the all-round “practical” ethos, the slightly posh style, the super safe quattro in the winter, etc. And I hate the new full digital cluster on the BMW, but damn, I would still choose the M3 in a heartbeat!
Xdrive is great at winter too.
@@Randomdude21-e compared to quattro is just rubbish bro 😉
@Giorgio haha no, years ago i would agree 😂
@@giorgio9035 time changes buddy 😂
Keep dreaming guys 😉
interesting to see the influence of weight - nice video as always
The best one by Matt and Yanni ! Wow that BMW though… but at 15 grand less would settle for the RS4.
Yiani's face in the brake test is epic jajaja good video 🫡
M3 touring - all the car you ever need!
Yep. Even Aichi Sendou owned a BMW M3 Touring lately.
M power ❤
This race with all the passengers was a lot of fun to watch!
Yay , welcome back yianni. Best drag race partner for Matt. 🎉
The woman/model sucks!!
Absolutely 👌☺️
💯
Hell noo...
@@albertkigotho8065 Fr?
Yianni is like part of the family now, you can add more guests but don't you replace him. Great video
Fr i thought Jodie was replacing Yianni because she was in most of the recent drag races and he wasn't but glad to see him back
This is honestly one of the funniest videos on this channel, I love it !! 😂😂 I laughed sooo hard when more and more people got in the M3 hahaha. Mat´s trying to slow down the M3 and Yanni proves it is still quicker !! Hands down, you guys are great comedy gold !! 😂😂🤣🤣 Big fan of carwow, keep up the awesome work !! Greetings from Germany 😁
Still waiting to see Matt and Yianni do some bicycle racing, can’t wait to laugh my head off 😅😅
Just love the design of the rs4/5/6… looks so good
RS4 looks so boring 🥱
@@Diffrent-33 even worse looking than 2023 NISSAN Z and 2004 NISSAN 350Z. Lol. 😂
Almost as good as the M3 Touring lol
Like a vw beetle
@@stubones let the Audi people win atleast 1 thing lmao🤣
More drone shots please, they look awesome
Yes. Hopefully the next drag race maybe saw total drone shots.
Great fun. Passengers is definitely something you should do again - especially the brake test!
The Drag race we wait :
991.1S vs 991.2S
Naturally aspirated and turbo 😍
Love the shooting brake design on a fast car, all the utility, and all the fun, perfect grocery getter by day and then a out for blood manic by night.
Yanni's face when he's braking though
Yep. 😂
Reminds me of the time he was racing the Evolve M5 that washed his porsche 😂
Quality race, Both beautiful cars and of course Yianni has to be here to turn it UP 👍 🎉
Amin. 👍
2023 RS7 ~ 2.9 Seconds to reach the 60mph mark.
2023 BMW M5 ~ 3.2 Seconds to reach the 60mph mark.
2023 C63 AMG ~ 3.4 Seconds to reach the 60mph mark.
Several tests reported and approved to be the best timing possible on a levelled track with dry surface. ❤
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It’s not fair. Considering it’s a BMW competition. Should also compete with the new RS4 with competition package
That m3 is a freak of nature man wtf it just kept getting better with each passenger😂
Thank goodness Yanni is back!!!
Sad
Amin.
Now that’s a nice bmw. Don’t need any faster than that, and the practicality to go with it. Also looks amazing.
Yes. And looks epic.
apart from the grill
@@gockartzz8272 nah I like it, not half as bad as people make out
@@ESKATEUK yes it is i have also seen it in person and its just about as discussing as on video if the grill is not swaped out
@@gockartzz8272 it’s called personal preference
2 fancy daddys racing their family machinery all the way down to the school on a Monday morning.... The kind of content we deserve! Thank you! Jajajajaja
M3 touring is just wonderful 🔥🏁
Nice one Matt and Car wow team, I would appreciate a drag between these two and the C63 Estate included.
The C63 is RWD. It will stand no chance against these AWD monsters in a drag race.
I had driven the RS4 B8 awhile ago and had the M3 Touring for a weekend two weeks ago. I thought my memories of RS4 were a bit diluted, but this video cleared the doubts. The M3 Touring felt like from a complete different generation of power/tech/quality than the RS4 B8. Even the B9 feels miles behind on the tech/interior not to mention power output. M3 Touring is a phenomenal car, really really enjoyed it.
Not trying to disagree here but what do you expect from a 7 year gap between those generations?
Mate this B9 RS4 is meant to compare with F80 M3 and the B8 with E90..
@@fzesmokyy1594 RS4 B9 arrived in 2018, G80 M3 in 2020, F80 M3 in 2014 lol the B9 RS4 is a direct competitor to the G80 M3
@@usercs_2682 2018 B9 RS4 is literally a direct competitor to the 2020 G80 M3 not the 2014 F80, keep in mind the F30 chassis was released in 2011😂😂
Both very nice cars. The M3 is a magnificent piece of engineering. That model of RS4 does seem to have been around though for quite a number of years though to be fair so as you would expect things move on. Think it must be due a replacement model very soon
Replacement must be soon because the RS3 has been done?
Keen on both wagons regardless of speed!
RS4 B9 arrived in 2018 M3 G80 in 2020 not much of a gap there. Previous gen F80 M3 arrived in 2014 in comparison
BMW has been making the best 6 cylinders in THE WORLD FOR DECADES!
So happy to see Yianni again in a drag race!
Touring M3 looks amazing in person, stunning car.
As stunning as Shelby Series 1 and Dodge Copperhead Concept Car.
See no disrespect to the lovely Jodi Kidd but seeing Yianni back in the drag races just makes so much more fun, he always wants to bigger and better and faster 😂 awesome video Mat, that M3 Touring is just something else
I know what you mean, if we would of never had Yanni all the other guests would seem great, something about him that's missing with the others
@@neilmorris6719 it’s that top gear trio sarcasm poking fun at each other kind of friendship that is so relatable as viewers.
I love this show you two guys are to funny. Keep having fun I wish I had friends like you two guys are.
That bmw is rapid! but for me audi is still the king of fast estates
I love seeing Yianni in BMWs. Cmon Yianni join team BMW again, we need you here!!!
Considering the power and torque advantage for BMW , it's not that big diference when you cross that line , that Audi is fast ,can't wait to see the new model.
Not that big a difference? Bro it was 3 car lengths ahead in the drag race. It's pretty much what everyone expected.
“can’t wait to see the new model” dude do you realize the RS4 B9 was released in 2018 when the G80 M3 arrived only 2 years later?😂
Entire VW Group will never be even close to raw power, luxury, performance, and comfort to BMW. We rule the world. Ultimate Driving Machine.
Matt, please bring the Audi RS Performance versions and pit them against their equivalent BMW M Competition versions please...
RS7 Perf vs M8 Competition for example or RS6 Perf vs M5 Competition etc...
Matt would never do that he is a BMa fanboy he despises losing
That would be fun, audis would loose by alot still. I have seen audi RS6 Abt vs m5 competiton and it smoked it.
I am just curious about the outcome, not a fanboy of either one of the brands. Audi seems to have made quite some improvements on the higher end RS models with more torque, power, efficiency and weight loss... Especially rs7 and rs6 models.
@@karimhassoun7732 yes would be a great race i agree.
It’s better to put it against E63s with RS6 perf and RS7 perf against GT63s. Because M competition is in another league
Not a fan of touring edition of cars; but damn that M3 is just pure joy both interior, exterior and sound-wise
Mat is so fast he refuses to beat anyone without a full audience to witness.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I am surprised Matt got into RS4 instead of M3, I always thought he loves to win LOL
He knows which car most of us would buy (I have an RS4 CP)
Yianni needs to be a permanent host by now
No... only a complete moron thinks this.
The m3 touring is an icon, rhe rs4 just a good car
That was an awesome video!! And wow the BMW M3 Touring is such a wonderful all arounder.
I could feel the pressure put on Yianni not to fluff up the launches while he had passengers🤭😂
I love these drag racing videos 😊
Hopefully the next drag race could be the Shelby GT350R vs NISSAN Z vs BMW M3 TOURING.
Nice video. Must admit I was expecting the m3 to win by more given that gen of rs4 came out in 2017 and so is a bit old now. Both look great and would happily take either!! 😂
The BMW M3 Touring and the Audi RS4 are the perfect cars for people who love heavy sports estate cars!
1. Weighting
2. Dyno
3. Dragstrip
4. Undisputed winner
That was brilliant. Loading up estate car! Should have put 2 bikes in the boot as well. Love estates
Yep. Add also the Honda NSR500 and Suzuki RGV-R for the next drag race.
The Audi look’s better, but the m3 is a machine
Both are machines and bmw look way better
The BMW is a gorgeous car no doubt but my personal choice will be the Audi, just my preference really. I think that for the extra 15k in price the Audi can be spiced up and be competitive. For example a stage 2 remap, exhaust, intake etc. the power output will be around 510bhp and 720nm or if you want some uniqueness you can do a full ABT conversion. Anyway well done BMW for building the M3 Touring 👏
That would be a nice followup race! Aaand with 4 Persons with fully loaded boot in both cars.
Not really the point, you can spend $10k for a 10 second drag car, and still buy the RS4 and trailer to take it home...
It's fast enough and most buying are buying for ease of use and necessity. It's all well and great having more bhp but the reliability drops and the warranty disappears which you need. ThBMWmw more than the Audi.
It's all the car you need and the only reason to get an upgrade say stage 2 is bragging rights and social media posts. As that's the only time you will care for others.
What a fast car to tune don't buy a 90k 2.2-ton one to start with.
£15k will pretty much double BHP and torque on that Audi. I saw Pols did Stage 1 for £800 with 530bhp. BRPerformance did Stage 2 (Milltek, intake and map) that dynoed at 573Hp and 875Nm
@@redlinethin the transfer box on the Audi is not strong enough to cope with that level of torque, past 720-750 they tend to break. The standard charge cooling system is also very poor and many upgrades available that are decent. The S58 has far more headroom for tuning and is much stronger engine. They make 750 hp JUST with decat and a tune,
Can't go without mentioning. It is one of the best episodes. Had a lot of fun)
overhead top-down drone shot of the launch would be a great addition to these drag vids
I love how the finish line is marked by a crack in the road
Yep 😂
As a prior G80 M3 CX owner in the US, I saw this coming. The M3 is underrated HP wise and the ZedF trans is just so efficient. Love it, great video and all in fun
They both run ZF8 boxes...it's really just BMW massively underating their HP as per usual...
@@alenalavanja6543 bmw engines are better, its not all about hp, its the curve and where peak hp is at. Bmw m-engine in this m3 is a masterpiece.
And carwow put the bmw m2 in dyno and it was 1 hp less then stated so thats not allways true
@@alenalavanja6543 Its not massively underrated, in fact I think its more about how they rate the power. It's more of a worst case scenario. High heat, poor fuel and air conditions(not AC like in the car, external air humidity/elevation etc). It could make another 30hp but at worst its this number.
@@Randomdude21-e lol the claimed hp figures are at crank not the wheels so the m2 is definitely underrated with hp…
Why not the RS4 competition?
Just bought a 2017 530i and after being a Mercedes fanboy my whole life I have finally converted to the dark side.
They really are the ultimate driving machines.
Added weight helped with the traction it seems
That was fun…And fun fact, the M3 is also faster around the track 😊
No doubt.
Another fun fact RS4 is 5 years Old and got less Power
@@smitingmace M3 touring won the drag race vs the RS6.
The difference is just insane
It really isn't.
@@Shadow_Wraith winning with 4 people inside the car is craazy + the car already weight more than the Audi 🤷♂️
@@shelby9118 Yeah? Why don't you all not talking that btw also has 50 more hp and torque? Why do you talk only about that 120 kg difference??
@@glebvinnik1794 one has more power the other has less weight . What about rs6 vs m3 , the rs6 has more power and more torque right( and a v8 ) ? Trust me bro Audi don’t compete with bmw in term of performance, watch some carwow videos and u will see ,even Matt knows that
Thank you Matt for this video. The Bmw M3 is from another level. It was a fair comparison now, 4 wheel drive and state. M POWER!!!
The BMW M3 TOURING even though its on another level wont even match the TommyKaira R33.
Yes but more power 60+HP and 50Nm
love how the bloke in back of BMW is filming the moment rather than just enjoying the moment.
is it only me or can u guys also see the interior of the bmw was visually like in brown not in red
Can't wait for the new RS4 when it comes out. It needs to be very good to compete against the might M3
Audi need to bump power quite significantly to at least 500hp. The current generation is a lovely car.
Yeah thats the only reason its losing 60 hp difference is big
I am wondering about the dyno power output on that M3 . It is for sure way over 510.
Its not all about hp, the curve means alot, audis allways got they peak hp higher. Bmw has full NM from very low rpm
@@Randomdude21-e Isn't that what TSI/TFSI is all about?
@@MetalheadAndNerd you can compare engine curves and see, bmws 3.0 straight 6 is powerful all the way,
@@Randomdude21-e Yes this. BMWs have good flat torque
@@ivorproblem1332 was same on my 335i n54. it was full Nm at 1200rpm kinda crazy imo
Imagine getting that m3 for 85.000 i would buy in an instant, in norway its double that
Starting price in The Netherlands 120k. In the past you would buy a house for that now its just enough for optionless m3 touring. And bmw sells a full option m4 for 190k euros. Thats 1 330i ffs.
Why so much? Considering it's a "euro" car 😅
@@Jason.cbr1000rr Taxes my friend, taxes!
@@dakalla oh ok the infamous tax man 🤬🤣
@@Jason.cbr1000rr taxes in Norway. Teslas are cheap tho. No taxes or very low tax. 2023 model 3 costs 36k $
starting price of m3 touring 170k$
And norway have good public transport, guess its to make people use it more.
This was great! Smiling the whole time I watched this!
Also would be interesting to see if you spent an extra 10k on the RS4 bringing it up to a similar price point - how much impact would the Quattro competition sport exhaust and diff make? Does it shave off a second 0-60? Could also add ceramic breaks for stopping, and still be about the same price as the Beemer?
They did - in the UK an RS4C is the same price as an M3 - still 450hp. Same as it was in 2018 and probably always will be - it seems that's the level for an emissions compliant 2.9TFSI.
Already thought the audi would lose cuz the Rs6 lost...
Newer faster, more powerful car wins 🤣🤔
I’ll never get over that front end unfortunately!!!!
Which sucks because the car is a a weapon and a stunner from other angles.
Always love an RS4 though too and surely in daily life it’s more than enough ❤
One thing to say: drive both cars and see for yourself the huge difference between them!!! BMW is not only faster but more engaging, more fun to drive…. Another level..!
If RS4 had 500 HP, it would be a different story
M3 Touring looks really good.
Awesome race ❤❤. Should give RS4 competition vs M3 Touring a race, more equal HP to race.