I really hate it, but I agree. You would think with their experience with SWGOH, they would have had a better start than this. I was really excited to get in on the ground floor with a game, and not necessarily stay competitive, but not always be catching up like I feel I am in SWGOH. I really wanted to see this game succeed, but they rushed the launch and there was nothing to do in the game. Time will tell, but I don't think I can hold on for much longer.
The core team that would've developed SWGOH in it's infancy are no longer there, so that's probably why you gave seen this, they obviously skipped the building the game up stage and had a ready made cash cow with SWGOH and clearly thought a copy and paste situation would do. It's also really stupid because although lord of the rings is popular. It's not even close to star wars, star wars is one of those freak universes that we emerse ourself into and it means we recognise so many characters, there's over 150 star wars characters they could stick in SWGOH that instantly fans would take too, i don't think that's the case with lord of the rings, it reels like huge characters in the franchise would be closer to 30, which means a game like this is doomed c
I agree with pretty much everything said. Although I think the unknown characters is basically a design choice from calling a character "wood elf healer" or "Haradrim Chieftain".
So many businesses lose money in their first year. This ha a company behind it than can tale a bit of loss the first uear and still survive. I think they are building a great base for the game and it will just take a little bit more time to be fully developed and then people will really spend.
I may be in denial stage, but I don’t think it’s past the point of no return. Yes, there is no content and games with no content will die fast. But, I think there is some space to drop content without having to ‘release what’s left and calling it quits’. I’d just like to think CG expected the current state of this game, have a plan, and with their experience from swgoh hopefully know what they are doing , we will see.
it is sad to see this game isn't doing well. I played a little at the start, but it never got me hooked. The potential of this game is so big, but I think the fact that these characters do not look like they do in the movies is a problem. I think the general playerbase have only seen the movies and want to play with those characters, as they know them from the movies. I remember when my favourite game of all time failed and shut down, Star Wars Force Arena. That game was simply perfect and had the most potential I have ever seen. being able to play with your favourite heroes, in a game similar to clash royale, that was growing so big at the time. But lack of marketing and questionable decisions by the developer killed the game. I still hope that someday that game will return, because I still believe it can be a massive succes. I hope things will be different for LOTR HOME, but as you said, I doubt it will be around that long.
You brought up Lego Legacy. Here’s where I think that comparison falls apart…Lego Legacy had 0 Guild content. They had guilds, but no game modes to go with it. HOME has raids and already been found in the data mines, references to more competitive experiences. Once those come to the game, HOME will start making money. Lego Legacy never did anything to provide a cooperative, competitive experience. That’s why it died. As for the other arguments, graphics for example…that’s not enough to call it dead. I like the art style. I wish the resolution was a little higher, but I couldn’t care less if they look like the movies. People need to let that one go. It’s never going to happen. Game modes will turn the ship…they did the same with SWGOH. People were crying the game was dead and then they introduced GAC. We are only 3 months into full release. Give it time.
It's worse than MSF. CG just being plain greedy. The enemy ai is ridiculous. The gear grind is obscene.. the gold. A days play in 10/15 mins.. Sad for a world like Tolkiens turned into a cash cow...that's rubbish..
I think for the unknown characters, a small backstory available on chatacter pages of the role they had in LotR lore would help a lot. (If they're real) Plus that'd help put some love and dedication into it. As well as a source from whatever media they came from.
Something like that was needed ESPECIALLY if they aren't real! One of the big pitches for this game was "oh, it will actually have a story" which I was skeptical about, because, y'know. Mobile game. And I was right, the story is silly and the characters are afterthoughts.
It drives me crazy that there is no squad manager like in swgoh. I have to refilter and scroll through everything every time and it sucks. Basic QoL is lacking.
Very interesting video! I agree with most of what you say. If people pay money for characters / teams, guess what? People want to use those teams in content AND get decent rewards for doing so. Atm you are not getting either of those things. Its a shame, as I love LoTR. I play LoTR : Rise To War (it as the movie characters) and its far better.
Nooch2burntout! While I don’t disagree with most of you are saying necessarily, remember this is a game. Don’t let it stress you out so much. This game is one of the slowest progressing game of its kind that I’ve ever played which is hugely frustrating yes. However, I am grateful for getting in on the ground floor (global launch not pre launch) which I don’t ever recall having done in other games it’s kinds of fun to see it in that aspect. Remember it’s a marathon not a sprint. Also, you can always play slower or take a break. Take care of yourself first.
@@NOOCH2GUD yes and I can see why it’s losing money because there is so little to do. I am hoping they have new game modes beyond raids coming down the pike that will revitalize the game. The game does have lots of players that want it to do well and are eager for content. But CG is so focused on releasing characters atm. New characters with no where to use them is kind of stale. They need other games modes. Hopefully they come before the game is actually dead because that would be sad considering they have the workings of a potentially great game.
I agree - the RUclips engagement is actually very high compared to the money being made. We shall see -- but these decisions tend to get made quickly before more money gets bled....
The name thing is cause they gave names to the generic characters. You can easily see it while fighting stages and looking at the possible enemies, they didn't bother to rename them there.
All the reasons in the video are true, but I think the game has a fundamental design flaw: It's a character-collecting game, which punishes you heavily for diversifying your roster; Any investment in a non-arena team leaves you behind in the main way to get resources, resources that are insufficient in any case.
tbh I don't think it's the same comparing LotR and Star Wars lore, Star War is a massive and well developed world while LotRs is like 5 or 6 books and aside from the trilogy and the Hobbit, incomplete books at that. None of that excuses HoME from failing on all levels, still no content but a character release fitting a game closer to 2-3 years old, and with all it's problems and out dated look it can't compete with other current Mobile games, looks like they are just spewing out monetization in hopes of getting as much cash as they can before the audience crumbles away and they shut down the game.
I uninstalled a few days ago, because i would literally just forget to play the game, and even when i booted it up, i'd be out in 5 minutes. They had no business not porting over some features from SWGOH, it's basically the same game
You could lump this in with the "communication" point, but some mention of player landscape shifting exploits should be included. With the "free sam" and the "unlimited gold" exploits we ran into over the past several weeks there are a decent number of players (mostly other spenders) that have had their power grow exponentially thus making an already imbalanced game (by design) completely busted. Add the pitiful communication and compensation offered up by CG and you get people quitting and/or not spending.
Im still somewhat having fun collecting the characters and such but there really isnt a whole lot to do. You'd think the fact they have a game like this already in swgoh, they would have something off rip engaging.
Most of the “unknown” characters in the game were created with permission from the LOTR rights holders. CG can create characters based on naming conventions, otherwise there would be almost no characters available to fill out factions. And character art doesn’t look like the actors because CG doesn’t have the rights to the movies, they have rights to the books.
I understand that pov but they have to balance the launch characters with future characters to retain interest and build excitement, and I think they know that with the first character being added to the game pretty significant elves and then Legolas & Gimli. It honestly would not be fun if every character in the fandom was there at launch.@@NOOCH2GUD
@@noahford8297couldn’t agree more. Imagine the game launched with every known character from the movies… then a year from now we have to get hype over some generic Haradrim instead of a Galadriel or Saruman… they have to pace the release of big names - now sure how this isn’t apparent to everyone else 🤷🏼♂️
Reason I quit is it just wasn't fun, game play is just trash. Not a strong reader but I'm a big fan of the movies so having none of the characters looking like the actors was an instant disappointment. Buying the likness rights must be cheaper for lotr must be cheaper than star wars. Should've invested more cg, they're too used to spoonfeeding us garbage and getting away with it
We are 3 months in. 3 months. The game isn’t dying, and it certainly isn’t dead. New game modes will come, new features will come, beloved characters will come… There’s a full mod system with unique equip-able weapons datamined. A new game mode has already been discussed by the creative lead, due out by the end of 2023. Raids just released a week ago… this generation of ‘gamer’ has zero patience 😂. Was it a great launch? Of course not. Does it have time to recover? Absolutely; and I can’t wait to see what it becomes.
@@NOOCH2GUD yeah, I hear ya. Not making money isn’t what you want as a game developer, for sure. But, there’s time to recover, no? If any company can ‘eat’ a tough launch and survive its EA… I don’t see them abandoning this so easily.
Year 1 of swgoh made 11m from what i could find, and it jumped to over 150m the 2nd year. I agree with most of your points though and idk if theyll be able to make the profit jump swgoh made especially where people are quitting left and right, but its new. Licensing is an issue with characters. I believe they only have the rights to the hobbit and trilogy books, not the movies or the silmerlarion. If it dies at least i didnt spend anything. It needs a lot of work if its going to survive.
@NOOCH2GUD I thought it came out earlier in the year than that :x I take back the money comparison point >< we will see what happens as the raid continues to roll out and if they add their version on GAC that was talked about during beta, which may be the only thing that can save it at this point.
As a new player i gotta agree with you. FTP but i might spend 5 bucks or so once in a while but yeah been playing for a week or so,level 30'ish and so far its a huge resounding meh. Activities seem lacking,pop up windows ALL THE TIME and it just doesn't offer enough to get me busy in the game and having fun. I wanted to play Galaxy of Heroes but its just too late to get started and since i am a fan of LOTR thought i would give this game a try but the bad outdated graphics and no variety of in game events is really making me just want to quit. Anyway good video and like going your way,cheers.
Thanks! As for SWGOH - they are selling Lightspeed Bundles right now as a huge catch up mechanic. If you're interested. But even free to play is fun! I'm doing all of it on multiple accounts. :)
They are going to announce a new legendary soon and keep releasing raid chapters to try and save the game. The gameplay is fighting rng in the raid getting that perfect score. Talk about bare minimum.
if they release legendary soon that's mean they milking player base before shutting down or let this game be in agony state so people won't refund money
Lomion pisses me off , He is not from rivendell, not even close , He died when elrond's father was Just a kid , rivendell was only created at least 1000 years later ,so it makes absolutely no sense for me for him to be in the rivendell team
I totally agree with you, we only have raids, other days when their are no raids their is nothing to do, big shortage of character xp, can't level up characters, arwen should have been farmable by now.
$1,700 only wont make you the 'tip of the spear'. I also started Swgoh back in Sep 2015, so surely you recall that CG is expecting you to spend $2,500 or more to be competitive?
You didn't even mention the resource crunch. They keep releasing marquees that even the whales don't have resources to gear/lvl. Launched a raid designed to just frustrate everyone and waste their time. August revenue is gonna be abysmal, as many are requesting refunds after the exploit scandal. Its funny how you mentioned lag too, those popups don't even take a nanosecond to load..
It's based on LotR, so it's probably not actually dying. Plus EA spent a fortune to get the rights just to make this game I'd imagine, and then assigned Capital Games to make it since they did a good job with SWGOH. EA won't just let it sink until they get their money back for the franchise rights etc. Plus, it's a fun game! It just needs some advertising and people will come! 👍
Phase 2 of the raid comes out what later this week? With phases 3 & 4 probably no far behind either. The Nazguls are finally coming. I can not believe the amount of people who have claimed "this game is dead" or "this game is dying" just cause there videos don't get 1000 views. This is a niche genre. But just because y'all tubers videos aren't making you $100 a day, doesn't mean "the game is dead" it does however show you have no passion for the game, and am only interested in it as a revenue source. All of the RUclipsrs for HOME are lacking the same thing, and that's why your videos aren't successful. Y'all don't have any real passion for the game.
:) did you actually watch to the end? It's not making any money. And perhaps there is a reason we lack passion and our vids arent getting any hits? I would love to love the game.
I think from a f2p prospective my problem with the game is that to upgrade gear to the newer levels you need gear you can only buy with blue tokens. Something most people haven't gotten yet and if they buy that they can't buy character shards
Its a lotr game! Lotr games dont die!,this game has lots of potential and lots of people like the style. Give the game a change and please try to bind the community with positive input!, maybe we win some people instead of losing!
Yeah I agree with you I was super excited for this game when it was announced. I think cg kinda dropped the ball on it given their experience with swgoh I’m hopeful for the future of this game
Right from the start, I was not interested in the game because I did not recognize any of the characters. Even with SWGOH they changed the characters appearance to make them look like the actors who played them. I have no interest in any of the unknown characters. CG making up fictional characters for a game is just so stupid, when there is plenty to choose from in the books and movies. One thing I hate the most in SWGOH, which is obviously in this game too, is the amount of popups. When I start SWGOH each day, I have to deal with 15 stupid popups and it is so annoying.
honestly the pop-ups really piss me off too! they reset every time you restart the game and just keep popping up for every single one of their offers. NO I REALLY DONT WANT TO BUY THIS IF I´VE CLICKED IT AWAY 20 TIMES ALREADY!!! Just like the Daily Calendar keeps popping-up after midnight, but i cant even collect the daily stuff because its not synced to MY daily reset
Especially annoying because the bugs in the game force me to restart the game several times a day (daily task tracker not resetting correctly, freezes after finishing battles, freezes after searching/equipping items, etc.)
It’s really annoying the state of the game atm. We’re 3 months in and there’s still hardly any content. Every new character release is a marquee which is so so frustrating. There should be more characters dropped on all those hard nodes and guild nodes they have spare doing nothing. If every single character release is gonna be a marquee I can’t see how the game grows. Lack of content is the most frustrating though there’s nothing to do.
every character release will be a marquee or legendary event. the marquees will eventually be available on the farming nodes, but no word yet on how that will work (at least no word in game - they could have mentioned it on discord or something but I don't know).
@@NOOCH2GUD imo they should drop a couple of teams all at once on hard nodes and just let people farm who they want. At least there will be some variance within arena. I just find it insulting that we get given a useless 3* character then have to wait months to be able to farm them. It’s a shame because it has so much potential but it’s becoming increasingly difficult to want to play
I was so hyped for this game. i whaled. Then i went F2P. Then i gave up. I loved a lot about this game, but I just got bored. That first shard was crazy with the whales. Arena was rough.
Lotr feels like its still in beta. Like you said, there are no daily activities. You log in, sim a couple nodes, do arena twice (i forfeit right away to save myself the time) and youre off.
I was there on Day 2 (to avoid the psycho cash crowd), started a guild, and played for a number of weeks, but as much of a LOTR fan I am, it couldn't hold my interest so I stopped playing a few weeks ago. Bored me thoroughly.
2024. 02.02 - nothin happening. No news from December 2023. No calendar for February, no any comments from game team. Its already died. RIP LOTR Heroes
What were they thinking taking an ip, and basicly losing 50% of its value by creating a completely new artwork (I know it is based on the original book artwork, but 99% of people relate to the movies) - what kind of marketing team makes that decision? Even a bigger problem was the absolute lack of creativity - do you expect players to pay hundreds/thousands of USD for the exact same game that exists? I don't care about the lack of content, that is how new games start, but seriously nothing innovative was presented. CG is finding out the hard way that the lack of effort especially in case of a new game means no money. Find the right people with passion to create your games, than you can get some $.
It sucks cuz ive been enjoying this one, however... there was 0 to no advertisement so that hurt (i see ads for strike force every day yet nothing for this one). If you hadnt covered it i never would have known it existed. And all the other problems u mentioned its definetly bare boned. Im just hoping it turns around. They haven't even released the nazgul yet!!!
Not enough effort or quality (standard CG practice these days) but without the hoards of players who have already committed time and money into the game. In SWGOH they get away with it but in a new game there's not enough sunk cost so everyone just walks if it's not fun or not good enough.
This isn't too surprising to me. Capital Games is pretty clueless, imo. They have been for years. If they were smart they'd offer subscriptions for 15-20 dollars a month which actually allowed for dolphins. SWGOH used to be that way. Then also offer whale content. They'll never learn though.
I've invested a ton into SWGOH and continue to do so, so it doesn't take much to get me to whale, and the Tolkien-verse is above and beyond my favorite universe ever, way above star wars, but this game pushed me out hard after trying so hard to play it for more than a week. It's an extremely weak game, don't like the art style, and it just feels so uninspired and not fun at all. Again, I remain a huge spender on SWGOH (i.e. executor in 14 days on a new account, Malgus and full sith empire at 2m gp, etc.) But I feel completely repelled by this game. It just feels dirty playing it and far worse to drop money on it.
I stopped playing right before vacation in late june, never went back after vacation. Sad to say got boring and pay to win and pay to have fun. Gonna get to the point where only the rich can enjoy these games.
Another point is the Lotr heroes developers allow cheating. Basically, they unbanned exploiters that abuse a bug of the guild chests giving themselves millions of gold. This incident destroy the integrity of this game.
vai falir , raid e enganção, estrela mudou muito o jogo, não tem como deixar heroi full sem conseguir 1bi na raid de cla, dando so 15 moedas, para compra na loja e 150 moedas, arena historia, raid, farm, eventos herois +3 estrelas so no maney
honestly, this game was dead on release, I woudln't be surprised if they would cut some content for release and slowly drip content like raids over a year before shutting down and milking naive people who will defend this game.
Dudes complaining about spending $1700 in shard 1 and not having the ability to climb. While most of the people in champions in shard 1 SPEND THOUSANDS A WEEK to stay on top. Cope harder dude.
Never played this game. Characters look so dull and lifeless. Not enough content. Devs don't seem to give the players enough rewards. I've been playing Watcher of Realms and have been having a blast. I dont even like tower defense games. But there is so much strategy and the characters are well done. And there is always something to do
I started playing it and it was just too time consuming as well as it had no flow to the game for groupings synergies and the like. So stopped playing it altogether.
Comparing SWGOH OR Marvel with LOTR is like comparing apples to oranges. Its a new game. Both marvel and swgoh has been out for 5 plus years. My suggestion is if you dont like, dont play. I dont find the ads annoying. Other games are worse. Are there problems? Yes, it is up to us as players to let EA know. They do need to change prices as f2p will have a difficult time. As far as unknown toons, whats the big deal? When the first SW movies came out, who had ever heard of Darth Revan or Thawn or Night sisters? As far as toons not looking like movie characters, maybe some copyright restrictions.
So I downloaded this today for nothing? LOL Kinda like coming back to SWGOH and looking for Cubs Fan Han Star Wars has more techie nerds than LOTR - that might also be a huge issue of why this has turned into a red-headed step child
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I really hate it, but I agree. You would think with their experience with SWGOH, they would have had a better start than this. I was really excited to get in on the ground floor with a game, and not necessarily stay competitive, but not always be catching up like I feel I am in SWGOH. I really wanted to see this game succeed, but they rushed the launch and there was nothing to do in the game. Time will tell, but I don't think I can hold on for much longer.
The core team that would've developed SWGOH in it's infancy are no longer there, so that's probably why you gave seen this, they obviously skipped the building the game up stage and had a ready made cash cow with SWGOH and clearly thought a copy and paste situation would do.
It's also really stupid because although lord of the rings is popular. It's not even close to star wars, star wars is one of those freak universes that we emerse ourself into and it means we recognise so many characters, there's over 150 star wars characters they could stick in SWGOH that instantly fans would take too, i don't think that's the case with lord of the rings, it reels like huge characters in the franchise would be closer to 30, which means a game like this is doomed c
I agree with pretty much everything said. Although I think the unknown characters is basically a design choice from calling a character "wood elf healer" or "Haradrim Chieftain".
this is true - in the beta they were called those generic titles.
So many businesses lose money in their first year. This ha a company behind it than can tale a bit of loss the first uear and still survive. I think they are building a great base for the game and it will just take a little bit more time to be fully developed and then people will really spend.
dream world?🤣😂 so how you will bring people who already left? stop being naive
I may be in denial stage, but I don’t think it’s past the point of no return. Yes, there is no content and games with no content will die fast. But, I think there is some space to drop content without having to ‘release what’s left and calling it quits’.
I’d just like to think CG expected the current state of this game, have a plan, and with their experience from swgoh hopefully know what they are doing , we will see.
it is sad to see this game isn't doing well. I played a little at the start, but it never got me hooked. The potential of this game is so big, but I think the fact that these characters do not look like they do in the movies is a problem. I think the general playerbase have only seen the movies and want to play with those characters, as they know them from the movies.
I remember when my favourite game of all time failed and shut down, Star Wars Force Arena. That game was simply perfect and had the most potential I have ever seen. being able to play with your favourite heroes, in a game similar to clash royale, that was growing so big at the time. But lack of marketing and questionable decisions by the developer killed the game. I still hope that someday that game will return, because I still believe it can be a massive succes.
I hope things will be different for LOTR HOME, but as you said, I doubt it will be around that long.
The game would fail, and CG/EA execs would not accept the reasons why and probably learn nothing for their next endeavor.
You brought up Lego Legacy. Here’s where I think that comparison falls apart…Lego Legacy had 0 Guild content. They had guilds, but no game modes to go with it. HOME has raids and already been found in the data mines, references to more competitive experiences. Once those come to the game, HOME will start making money. Lego Legacy never did anything to provide a cooperative, competitive experience. That’s why it died. As for the other arguments, graphics for example…that’s not enough to call it dead. I like the art style. I wish the resolution was a little higher, but I couldn’t care less if they look like the movies. People need to let that one go. It’s never going to happen. Game modes will turn the ship…they did the same with SWGOH. People were crying the game was dead and then they introduced GAC. We are only 3 months into full release. Give it time.
It's worse than MSF. CG just being plain greedy. The enemy ai is ridiculous. The gear grind is obscene.. the gold. A days play in 10/15 mins.. Sad for a world like Tolkiens turned into a cash cow...that's rubbish..
I think for the unknown characters, a small backstory available on chatacter pages of the role they had in LotR lore would help a lot. (If they're real)
Plus that'd help put some love and dedication into it.
As well as a source from whatever media they came from.
Something like that was needed ESPECIALLY if they aren't real! One of the big pitches for this game was "oh, it will actually have a story" which I was skeptical about, because, y'know. Mobile game. And I was right, the story is silly and the characters are afterthoughts.
It drives me crazy that there is no squad manager like in swgoh. I have to refilter and scroll through everything every time and it sucks. Basic QoL is lacking.
Very interesting video! I agree with most of what you say. If people pay money for characters / teams, guess what? People want to use those teams in content AND get decent rewards for doing so. Atm you are not getting either of those things. Its a shame, as I love LoTR. I play LoTR : Rise To War (it as the movie characters) and its far better.
Nooch2burntout! While I don’t disagree with most of you are saying necessarily, remember this is a game. Don’t let it stress you out so much. This game is one of the slowest progressing game of its kind that I’ve ever played which is hugely frustrating yes. However, I am grateful for getting in on the ground floor (global launch not pre launch) which I don’t ever recall having done in other games it’s kinds of fun to see it in that aspect. Remember it’s a marathon not a sprint. Also, you can always play slower or take a break. Take care of yourself first.
I am zero stressed out bud. :)
Did you watch to the end on the fact that it's losing money?
@@NOOCH2GUD yes and I can see why it’s losing money because there is so little to do. I am hoping they have new game modes beyond raids coming down the pike that will revitalize the game. The game does have lots of players that want it to do well and are eager for content. But CG is so focused on releasing characters atm. New characters with no where to use them is kind of stale. They need other games modes. Hopefully they come before the game is actually dead because that would be sad considering they have the workings of a potentially great game.
I agree - the RUclips engagement is actually very high compared to the money being made. We shall see -- but these decisions tend to get made quickly before more money gets bled....
@@NOOCH2GUD this is true. I am trying to be optimistic. You are in my arena shard but I’m F2P so I’ll never catch you! 🤣
@@andrewfossatti4937 are you a politician or something? 😂
The name thing is cause they gave names to the generic characters. You can easily see it while fighting stages and looking at the possible enemies, they didn't bother to rename them there.
All the reasons in the video are true, but I think the game has a fundamental design flaw: It's a character-collecting game, which punishes you heavily for diversifying your roster; Any investment in a non-arena team leaves you behind in the main way to get resources, resources that are insufficient in any case.
tbh I don't think it's the same comparing LotR and Star Wars lore, Star War is a massive and well developed world while LotRs is like 5 or 6 books and aside from the trilogy and the Hobbit, incomplete books at that. None of that excuses HoME from failing on all levels, still no content but a character release fitting a game closer to 2-3 years old, and with all it's problems and out dated look it can't compete with other current Mobile games, looks like they are just spewing out monetization in hopes of getting as much cash as they can before the audience crumbles away and they shut down the game.
I uninstalled a few days ago, because i would literally just forget to play the game, and even when i booted it up, i'd be out in 5 minutes. They had no business not porting over some features from SWGOH, it's basically the same game
You could lump this in with the "communication" point, but some mention of player landscape shifting exploits should be included. With the "free sam" and the "unlimited gold" exploits we ran into over the past several weeks there are a decent number of players (mostly other spenders) that have had their power grow exponentially thus making an already imbalanced game (by design) completely busted. Add the pitiful communication and compensation offered up by CG and you get people quitting and/or not spending.
Im still somewhat having fun collecting the characters and such but there really isnt a whole lot to do. You'd think the fact they have a game like this already in swgoh, they would have something off rip engaging.
Most of the “unknown” characters in the game were created with permission from the LOTR rights holders. CG can create characters based on naming conventions, otherwise there would be almost no characters available to fill out factions.
And character art doesn’t look like the actors because CG doesn’t have the rights to the movies, they have rights to the books.
Fully aware of all the above. Still creates a lot of problems for the game's marketability and player interest level.
I understand that pov but they have to balance the launch characters with future characters to retain interest and build excitement, and I think they know that with the first character being added to the game pretty significant elves and then Legolas & Gimli. It honestly would not be fun if every character in the fandom was there at launch.@@NOOCH2GUD
@@noahford8297couldn’t agree more. Imagine the game launched with every known character from the movies… then a year from now we have to get hype over some generic Haradrim instead of a Galadriel or Saruman… they have to pace the release of big names - now sure how this isn’t apparent to everyone else 🤷🏼♂️
Im gonna make a list and get back to you. :)
Reason I quit is it just wasn't fun, game play is just trash. Not a strong reader but I'm a big fan of the movies so having none of the characters looking like the actors was an instant disappointment. Buying the likness rights must be cheaper for lotr must be cheaper than star wars. Should've invested more cg, they're too used to spoonfeeding us garbage and getting away with it
this aged well
I get things right sometimes
"Please watch it until the end!"
-10 minutes after the 25 minutes video is released-: "Your points are invalid"
That's pretty much what's happening ROFL!!
We are 3 months in. 3 months. The game isn’t dying, and it certainly isn’t dead. New game modes will come, new features will come, beloved characters will come…
There’s a full mod system with unique equip-able weapons datamined. A new game mode has already been discussed by the creative lead, due out by the end of 2023. Raids just released a week ago… this generation of ‘gamer’ has zero patience 😂.
Was it a great launch? Of course not. Does it have time to recover? Absolutely; and I can’t wait to see what it becomes.
Did you watch to the end where the game isnt making any money? Thats the true issue
@@NOOCH2GUD yeah, I hear ya. Not making money isn’t what you want as a game developer, for sure. But, there’s time to recover, no? If any company can ‘eat’ a tough launch and survive its EA… I don’t see them abandoning this so easily.
Year 1 of swgoh made 11m from what i could find, and it jumped to over 150m the 2nd year. I agree with most of your points though and idk if theyll be able to make the profit jump swgoh made especially where people are quitting left and right, but its new. Licensing is an issue with characters. I believe they only have the rights to the hobbit and trilogy books, not the movies or the silmerlarion.
If it dies at least i didnt spend anything. It needs a lot of work if its going to survive.
Yes - the game launched November 24, 2015 and made $11 million in less than 2 months. The next full year it made 150M. So - not close. :o
@NOOCH2GUD I thought it came out earlier in the year than that :x I take back the money comparison point >< we will see what happens as the raid continues to roll out and if they add their version on GAC that was talked about during beta, which may be the only thing that can save it at this point.
Just one comment. Swgoh also has a pop up every time you switch screens. So that part isn't just something from this game.
truth
As a new player i gotta agree with you.
FTP but i might spend 5 bucks or so once in a while but yeah been playing for a week or so,level 30'ish and so far its a huge resounding meh.
Activities seem lacking,pop up windows ALL THE TIME and it just doesn't offer enough to get me busy in the game and having fun.
I wanted to play Galaxy of Heroes but its just too late to get started and since i am a fan of LOTR thought i would give this game a try but the bad outdated graphics and no variety of in game events is really making me just want to quit.
Anyway good video and like going your way,cheers.
Thanks! As for SWGOH - they are selling Lightspeed Bundles right now as a huge catch up mechanic. If you're interested. But even free to play is fun! I'm doing all of it on multiple accounts. :)
They are going to announce a new legendary soon and keep releasing raid chapters to try and save the game. The gameplay is fighting rng in the raid getting that perfect score. Talk about bare minimum.
if they release legendary soon that's mean they milking player base before shutting down or let this game be in agony state so people won't refund money
Lomion pisses me off , He is not from rivendell, not even close , He died when elrond's father was Just a kid , rivendell was only created at least 1000 years later ,so it makes absolutely no sense for me for him to be in the rivendell team
thanks Diego! I'm not a die hard but I know those of you who are have not been happy.
I totally agree with you, we only have raids, other days when their are no raids their is nothing to do, big shortage of character xp, can't level up characters, arwen should have been farmable by now.
Weird we have zero news on when these characters will be farmable
$1,700 only wont make you the 'tip of the spear'. I also started Swgoh back in Sep 2015, so surely you recall that CG is expecting you to spend $2,500 or more to be competitive?
Swgoh is super competitive now at all levels of play. :)
@NOOCH2GUD Indeed, with the benefit of 8 odd years. Im feeling old and crusty now!! Enjoying your content, thanks for the laughs from a fellow dad :)
Agree 100%, needs more game modes, doesn’t look like finished product, looks like beta
You didn't even mention the resource crunch. They keep releasing marquees that even the whales don't have resources to gear/lvl. Launched a raid designed to just frustrate everyone and waste their time. August revenue is gonna be abysmal, as many are requesting refunds after the exploit scandal. Its funny how you mentioned lag too, those popups don't even take a nanosecond to load..
It's based on LotR, so it's probably not actually dying. Plus EA spent a fortune to get the rights just to make this game I'd imagine, and then assigned Capital Games to make it since they did a good job with SWGOH. EA won't just let it sink until they get their money back for the franchise rights etc. Plus, it's a fun game! It just needs some advertising and people will come! 👍
Phase 2 of the raid comes out what later this week? With phases 3 & 4 probably no far behind either. The Nazguls are finally coming.
I can not believe the amount of people who have claimed "this game is dead" or "this game is dying" just cause there videos don't get 1000 views.
This is a niche genre. But just because y'all tubers videos aren't making you $100 a day, doesn't mean "the game is dead" it does however show you have no passion for the game, and am only interested in it as a revenue source.
All of the RUclipsrs for HOME are lacking the same thing, and that's why your videos aren't successful. Y'all don't have any real passion for the game.
:) did you actually watch to the end? It's not making any money. And perhaps there is a reason we lack passion and our vids arent getting any hits?
I would love to love the game.
I think from a f2p prospective my problem with the game is that to upgrade gear to the newer levels you need gear you can only buy with blue tokens. Something most people haven't gotten yet and if they buy that they can't buy character shards
Heck just upgrading to gear 8 requires dropping all character farms
Its a lotr game! Lotr games dont die!,this game has lots of potential and lots of people like the style.
Give the game a change and please try to bind the community with positive input!, maybe we win some people instead of losing!
I can only respond with how I really feel about stuff. You always get genuine emotions and information from me --- I don't front.
Voices are very powerful,you can make or distroy things,but i respect your honest opinion,keep the good work going!
Yeah I agree with you I was super excited for this game when it was announced. I think cg kinda dropped the ball on it given their experience with swgoh I’m hopeful for the future of this game
Right from the start, I was not interested in the game because I did not recognize any of the characters. Even with SWGOH they changed the characters appearance to make them look like the actors who played them.
I have no interest in any of the unknown characters. CG making up fictional characters for a game is just so stupid, when there is plenty to choose from in the books and movies.
One thing I hate the most in SWGOH, which is obviously in this game too, is the amount of popups. When I start SWGOH each day, I have to deal with 15 stupid popups and it is so annoying.
honestly the pop-ups really piss me off too! they reset every time you restart the game and just keep popping up for every single one of their offers. NO I REALLY DONT WANT TO BUY THIS IF I´VE CLICKED IT AWAY 20 TIMES ALREADY!!! Just like the Daily Calendar keeps popping-up after midnight, but i cant even collect the daily stuff because its not synced to MY daily reset
Especially annoying because the bugs in the game force me to restart the game several times a day (daily task tracker not resetting correctly, freezes after finishing battles, freezes after searching/equipping items, etc.)
It would help a lot if they would start releasing better and more frequent offers in the store that are not just limited to whales
It’s really annoying the state of the game atm. We’re 3 months in and there’s still hardly any content. Every new character release is a marquee which is so so frustrating. There should be more characters dropped on all those hard nodes and guild nodes they have spare doing nothing. If every single character release is gonna be a marquee I can’t see how the game grows. Lack of content is the most frustrating though there’s nothing to do.
every character release will be a marquee or legendary event. the marquees will eventually be available on the farming nodes, but no word yet on how that will work (at least no word in game - they could have mentioned it on discord or something but I don't know).
@@NOOCH2GUD imo they should drop a couple of teams all at once on hard nodes and just let people farm who they want. At least there will be some variance within arena. I just find it insulting that we get given a useless 3* character then have to wait months to be able to farm them. It’s a shame because it has so much potential but it’s becoming increasingly difficult to want to play
3 more reasons: The characters are so far away you can’t see details, the raid is an annoying rng fest, you can’t see your opponents stats in arena.
I was so hyped for this game. i whaled. Then i went F2P. Then i gave up. I loved a lot about this game, but I just got bored. That first shard was crazy with the whales. Arena was rough.
Unfortunately this video aged like fine wine
Lotr feels like its still in beta. Like you said, there are no daily activities. You log in, sim a couple nodes, do arena twice (i forfeit right away to save myself the time) and youre off.
I was there on Day 2 (to avoid the psycho cash crowd), started a guild, and played for a number of weeks, but as much of a LOTR fan I am, it couldn't hold my interest so I stopped playing a few weeks ago. Bored me thoroughly.
2024. 02.02 - nothin happening. No news from December 2023. No calendar for February, no any comments from game team. Its already died. RIP LOTR Heroes
yeah I saw that yesterday....sad but predictable. :(
Your content explanation would explain why they would release Moria raid and random haradrim characters at the same time.
Whew, $1700 on this game or anything else in the world. That’s gotta be some heavy buyer’s remorse.
Curse of content creation - gotta go for it sometimes. :)
What were they thinking taking an ip, and basicly losing 50% of its value by creating a completely new artwork (I know it is based on the original book artwork, but 99% of people relate to the movies) - what kind of marketing team makes that decision? Even a bigger problem was the absolute lack of creativity - do you expect players to pay hundreds/thousands of USD for the exact same game that exists? I don't care about the lack of content, that is how new games start, but seriously nothing innovative was presented. CG is finding out the hard way that the lack of effort especially in case of a new game means no money. Find the right people with passion to create your games, than you can get some $.
It sucks cuz ive been enjoying this one, however... there was 0 to no advertisement so that hurt (i see ads for strike force every day yet nothing for this one). If you hadnt covered it i never would have known it existed.
And all the other problems u mentioned its definetly bare boned. Im just hoping it turns around. They haven't even released the nazgul yet!!!
I see commercials for it all the time on RUclips. There was one with Arwen, one with gimli and legolas, one with Gandalf and the raid etc.
@@robertheadley3483 wtf I've never seen em... lame
I do like the graphics but you are very very right, nobody knows the characters so the IP is not helping
Not enough effort or quality (standard CG practice these days) but without the hoards of players who have already committed time and money into the game. In SWGOH they get away with it but in a new game there's not enough sunk cost so everyone just walks if it's not fun or not good enough.
This isn't too surprising to me. Capital Games is pretty clueless, imo. They have been for years. If they were smart they'd offer subscriptions for 15-20 dollars a month which actually allowed for dolphins. SWGOH used to be that way. Then also offer whale content. They'll never learn though.
I completely agree. I played this before I got into sw:goh and I just couldn’t.
I've invested a ton into SWGOH and continue to do so, so it doesn't take much to get me to whale, and the Tolkien-verse is above and beyond my favorite universe ever, way above star wars, but this game pushed me out hard after trying so hard to play it for more than a week. It's an extremely weak game, don't like the art style, and it just feels so uninspired and not fun at all. Again, I remain a huge spender on SWGOH (i.e. executor in 14 days on a new account, Malgus and full sith empire at 2m gp, etc.) But I feel completely repelled by this game. It just feels dirty playing it and far worse to drop money on it.
I feel you on this. Would you be willing to DM me on discord? I have some questions for you. NOOCH#2580
Loving the intros Nooch
I personally think the graphics are amazing, they have a very middle earth feeling
This game was cool in the beginning. Now it is excruciatingly boring.
imagine they decided to put wubete instead of tom bombadil
and that unknown elf instead of celebrimbor haha
Not spending money on a game with unknown characters and just spent twice long watching your video as I do in game.
Rofl
I stopped playing right before vacation in late june, never went back after vacation. Sad to say got boring and pay to win and pay to have fun. Gonna get to the point where only the rich can enjoy these games.
I jump in and spend 10 minutes a day doing my dailies.
They didn’t learn from their failure with goh
Rofl yeah an 8 year old game on its way to $2 billion in revenue. They should have learned their lesson.
Another point is the Lotr heroes developers allow cheating. Basically, they unbanned exploiters that abuse a bug of the guild chests giving themselves millions of gold. This incident destroy the integrity of this game.
you also have to count in that they are paying for the lotr name etc
I quit playing the beta after 2 or 3 weeks tops and i quit playing the live launch after a week. No compelling reason to play.
It will hang on bc of Tolkien die hards
Game has been dying for a month at least. There are only essentially 500 people joining game on a daily basis and more than that are quitting
I miss Lego Star Wars battles and Lego legacy lol
vai falir , raid e enganção, estrela mudou muito o jogo, não tem como deixar heroi full sem conseguir 1bi na raid de cla, dando so 15 moedas, para compra na loja e 150 moedas, arena historia, raid, farm, eventos herois +3 estrelas so no maney
Hello! Ever thought about playing Disney Sorcerer Arena?:D or Marvel Strike Force!! i could see u there!!
DSA isn't my thing. I played MSF at the beginning and it didn't do it for me, for whatever reason.
honestly, this game was dead on release, I woudln't be surprised if they would cut some content for release and slowly drip content like raids over a year before shutting down and milking naive people who will defend this game.
Unfortunately yeah
Dudes complaining about spending $1700 in shard 1 and not having the ability to climb. While most of the people in champions in shard 1 SPEND THOUSANDS A WEEK to stay on top. Cope harder dude.
I would like more modes to play please.
This game is a waste of money I lost like 100 USD
I downloaded games, took to long,and didn't really understand? Deleted. Boring.
Never played this game. Characters look so dull and lifeless. Not enough content. Devs don't seem to give the players enough rewards. I've been playing Watcher of Realms and have been having a blast. I dont even like tower defense games. But there is so much strategy and the characters are well done. And there is always something to do
At least if they had taken their SWGOH model and IMPROVED it, but no. Lol. This could have been their testing ground for new ideas.
Played the game when it came out. Wasn’t having fun. Seems it’s trying to cash in as much as possible.
LoTR is iconic, but I never thought for a minute there would be a large enough character base to support a character collecting game. :(
yeah it's a real problem - and almost every known character is a good guy.
Absolute clone of swgoh, no originality, that's my biggest gripe.... thank god I haven't invested.
I KNOW WHO LÓMION IS
8 minutes in. I notice you spent less in swgoh on your hyperdrive account than you have in the entire LOTR Home game😂
100% - and that's going to stop
Its a brand new game give it time 🤣
Did you watch til the end?
@@NOOCH2GUD always do nooch, but i know you have so much influence on the youth, they will see this and instantly not even download the game
Game cost way way to much
Pop-ups are AWFUL!!!
I started playing it and it was just too time consuming as well as it had no flow to the game for groupings synergies and the like. So stopped playing it altogether.
EA doing EA things their like mr krabs just want money
Nooch is too gud! But Nooch is no good at math… 😂
is it dying
deleted it a couple of weeks ago, its awful
Called it the first week.
Yes you did! What are you playing these days?
Actually playing the new MOBA Warcraft Rumble, just came out, made a Noochirium guild lol
Very good video, Nuch2Good! Agree the game is dying.
You were right.
tell your sister....
Comparing SWGOH OR Marvel with LOTR is like comparing apples to oranges. Its a new game. Both marvel and swgoh has been out for 5 plus years. My suggestion is if you dont like, dont play. I dont find the ads annoying. Other games are worse. Are there problems? Yes, it is up to us as players to let EA know. They do need to change prices as f2p will have a difficult time. As far as unknown toons, whats the big deal? When the first SW movies came out, who had ever heard of Darth Revan or Thawn or Night sisters? As far as toons not looking like movie characters, maybe some copyright restrictions.
NOOCH2RIPLOTR
Nailed it
Nooch2Gone 😢
sorry bud - the game just lost me.....
Everything is dying bro.
glass half empty? :)
@NOOCH2GUD half full of depression lol
SOOOOO AGREE
So I downloaded this today for nothing? LOL
Kinda like coming back to SWGOH and looking for Cubs Fan Han
Star Wars has more techie nerds than LOTR - that might also be a huge issue of why this has turned into a red-headed step child
Honestly - i think the fact that lotr has 3 identifiable villains is a HUGE issue for this game. All the bad guys are just generic fantasy characters.