Flaming 37 Mega Thrash

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
  • Filmed by a signalman I know who caught this class 37 giving it all at Great Rocks in the peak district.
    This is one of the UK's oldest type of locomotive still in use today They are Diesel Electric so the engine drives a generator and electric motors drive the wheels. This was filmed in the 1980's near a stone quarry. Trains are brought out in 2 halves each weighing about 1000 tons. It is a steep gradient and takes skill to get maximum power without the loco slipping. This driver is for some reason leaving to loco on full power causing the engine to overspeed and the wheels to slip. Systems on the loco cut the fuel to prevent damage to the engine and prevent damage to the electric motors which drive the loco and wheels/rails, as the revs die down fuel is again admitted to the engine which is turbo charged, at low revs the turbos are not able to draw enough air in to burn the fuel efficiently and it is being drawn through the engine into the exhausts where it is igniting causing the flames and black smoke.
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  • @Tiswhattitis
    @Tiswhattitis 3 года назад +280

    Bloody hell!! This sounds exactly like my mrs snoring!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад +39

      LOL Hope she does not chuck out black smoke as well

    • @tomf4547
      @tomf4547 3 года назад +6

      Haaaa I can relate to that 🤣

    • @bigal1863
      @bigal1863 3 года назад +4

      Gotta be the long lost twin to my mrs!

    • @steffenrosmus9177
      @steffenrosmus9177 3 года назад +6

      Does your mrs have a yellow nose?

    • @redrb26dett
      @redrb26dett 3 года назад +2

      Your missus seems to have the same problem as my dog fyi I’ve slept through an earthquake but my god once he starts snoring the whole street wakes up

  • @Tibb91
    @Tibb91 5 лет назад +586

    Class 37s are probably the most brutal sounding diesel locos I've ever heard.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  5 лет назад +52

      I think so too. The class 40 and 50 make a great sound as well when working hard

    • @themeatchannel1134
      @themeatchannel1134 5 лет назад +23

      They are gorgeous sounding, especially when the tits are being razzed off them, like here !!!

    • @Neontrifle
      @Neontrifle 4 года назад +16

      @@themeatchannel1134 They have a great whistling sound of the turbos

    • @dieselfahrenderpflaumenkuc352
      @dieselfahrenderpflaumenkuc352 4 года назад +7

      cedarcam the class 20 and 31 also

    • @benconway9010
      @benconway9010 4 года назад +4

      @@cedarcam and the 31s

  • @AltheFolker
    @AltheFolker 3 года назад +115

    Anyone else hear James May's voice: 'Give it some beans!'

    • @junatah5903
      @junatah5903 3 года назад +2

      Nope, just you.

    • @OntarioAndrew
      @OntarioAndrew 3 года назад +2

      Give it the berries

    • @markcf83
      @markcf83 3 года назад +6

      I can only imagine St Jeremy of Clarkson saying POWERRRRRRRRR......

    • @Brecconable
      @Brecconable 5 месяцев назад

      @@markcf83 Indeed. Speed and *POWER*

    • @nerfreak01
      @nerfreak01 4 месяца назад +1

      Clarkson: Yeeees!

  • @Asl6uk
    @Asl6uk 3 года назад +75

    Love the sound of those turbos spooling down after he backs off.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад +4

      Yes I like the sound of that as well on these locos

    • @leonblittle226
      @leonblittle226 3 года назад +7

      He never backed off - it's overloading and cutting out the power unit before the generator was blown.

    • @bigduphusaj162
      @bigduphusaj162 2 года назад +4

      @@leonblittle226 it's the anti slip mate

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 9 месяцев назад

      @@bigduphusaj162 There's no anti-slip on a 37, is there?

    • @nounoufriend1442
      @nounoufriend1442 6 месяцев назад

      @@leonblittle226 Would think its wheel slip cutting the power rather than overload , don't remember any main gen overload protection on Cl37

  • @TerryTheNewsGirl
    @TerryTheNewsGirl 6 лет назад +230

    God, I've seen some clag coming out of a lot of 37's in my life, but this insane!

  • @arthurmatthews9321
    @arthurmatthews9321 4 года назад +385

    It’s burning more fuel in the exhaust than in the engine. It’s a 37 with an after burner.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  4 года назад +40

      I like that description. Sure was burning a lot too. Never seen anything like it before.

    • @scenicdepictionsofchicagolife
      @scenicdepictionsofchicagolife 3 года назад +35

      @@cedarcam probably a leaky turbo seal modification for afterburning diesel power. Old GE dash 8s and dash 9s (and even the new GEVOs) are infamous here stateside for having this issue of running fuel rich due to turbo failure. We call them "toasters" here. If you look up GE toaster engine failure you will see some incredible engine failures / fires or "clag" (so as to parlance in british english). Here we like to refer to it as rolling coal 🤣

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад +18

      @@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife Thanks for your reply. In this case it is the way the driver is handling the power by leaving it on full all the time. These locos have 2 turbos, sometimes I have seen one with one side emitting thick smoke all the time while the other is clean. I have seen a few failures stateside but not looked up toaster engine failure so I will do that to find some more. Rolling coal I have heard of and I think a better description than clag as we say. There are no pre heaters on these old engines and when starting from cold they create a dense white fog. Here is another EE loco starting from cold These have 4 turbos and a bigger version of the same engine as the 37 ruclips.net/video/AdAiVIs0VZk/видео.html

    • @derekheeps1244
      @derekheeps1244 2 года назад +2

      Spamcan and the jet engine

    • @Sharrendan
      @Sharrendan 2 года назад +1

      The valves just can't close because there is too much powerrrr. 🔥😁

  • @444mrjimmy
    @444mrjimmy 3 года назад +27

    He’s having so much fun playing the throttle and that glorious exhaust note

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад +1

      The sound is great

  • @justinobrien3593
    @justinobrien3593 3 года назад +11

    Love the clagg pumping out of this beast you cannot mistake the sound of those English electric engines+turbos kicking arse!!!🥰😘🥰

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад

      Not the best way to treat a 37 but sure got a great sound out of it

  • @G0IMB
    @G0IMB 6 лет назад +295

    Looks like how a steam driver would control wheelslip

    • @EngineEngineer
      @EngineEngineer 3 года назад +12

      Steam driver wouldn't be opening the regulator fully though would he

    • @lordbelvoir2543
      @lordbelvoir2543 3 года назад +14

      And the fireman would get a kick up arse for over coaling with all that black smoke

    • @H.EL-Othemany
      @H.EL-Othemany 3 года назад +2

      Isn't it automatic? Anti wheel slip device?

    • @SirMagicaltrevor
      @SirMagicaltrevor 3 года назад +8

      @@H.EL-Othemany if you open the throttle to full it goes full. When there is wheelslip the electronic shuts the rack in the engine untill the wheelslip stops then it just goes back the what ever the throttle handle position was so if you leave it on full this is basically what is show in the video I think it's on class 37/7 locos

    • @H.EL-Othemany
      @H.EL-Othemany 3 года назад +1

      @@SirMagicaltrevor yes that's exactly what happens in train simulator.. Class 37

  • @davidantoniocamposbarros7528
    @davidantoniocamposbarros7528 3 года назад +127

    When the fart doesn't come out as you expected:

  • @Straightcutbox
    @Straightcutbox 4 года назад +65

    This particular 37 clearly had issues. It's trying to move 10 x JGA wagons (900 tons) at a time to shunt them from long sidings to up sidings at Peak forest. That's well within the capabilities of a single 37, despite the gradient and a clearly damp day. Great video!

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  4 года назад +21

      It was a tough job for a single loco yes. I was told they used 2 often but this day the 2nd loco only arrived when both halves of the train were in the Up Siding.They did haul loads like this often though and it looks like poor driving technique apply full power and not easing off a little as it got on the move causing to engine overspeed to cut the fuel and as the revs die down allow a surge of fuel into the engine. Whatever the cause it did make a great video and something I have never seen sine.

    • @christopherhampson265
      @christopherhampson265 Год назад +5

      The Driver is just blowing out the soot boxes ! A Good job n'all

    • @-FreeMiner-
      @-FreeMiner- Год назад +1

      Clearing the engines and the track was icy

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@-FreeMiner- What makes you say the track was icy? There are leaves on all the trees and bushes -- it doesn't look like winter.

    • @-FreeMiner-
      @-FreeMiner- 9 месяцев назад

      @beeble2003 not hard to annalise a video and see ice on rails

  • @glennashton1015
    @glennashton1015 3 года назад +20

    Love that savage growl ,class 37 perhaps my favourite locomotive

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад

      They have a great sound yes

    • @NGK911
      @NGK911 Месяц назад

      @@glennashton1015 mine also

  • @TheNutyking6170
    @TheNutyking6170 2 года назад +9

    The smoke cloud at 0:53 is a love heart shape, I love the noise of the 37s

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  2 года назад +1

      Yea A great sight and sound I love as well Not many left in service now

    • @TheNutyking6170
      @TheNutyking6170 2 года назад

      @@cedarcam Its really sad how there aren't many left, I saw one not to long ago in par cornwall, its engine sounded really nice too :)

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  2 года назад +1

      @@TheNutyking6170 Thats nice. I got video of 401 at York recently and will upload that. They can be seen at York fairly often

  • @althejazzman
    @althejazzman 3 года назад +11

    That's a terrifying display of power.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад +3

      You would feel the ground shake with this one. So loud

    • @Craft-oh7uv
      @Craft-oh7uv 10 месяцев назад +2

      You haven’t meet my mother-in-law 🫨

    • @althejazzman
      @althejazzman 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Craft-oh7uv is she built like a train?

    • @Craft-oh7uv
      @Craft-oh7uv 10 месяцев назад

      Ask a stupid question! @@althejazzman

  • @jondrizzle4554
    @jondrizzle4554 4 года назад +20

    Never really been into trains until now
    That's bloody awesome 👌

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  4 года назад +3

      It is I never saw anything like it in years. There are some great uploads of locos in other countries you will like as well

    • @jondrizzle4554
      @jondrizzle4554 4 года назад +1

      Thanks buddy
      Seriously this video has started me off looking at all sorts of class locos....and I can't stop watching now :) this is an absolute beast of a machine thanks for the upload 👍

    • @philld1201
      @philld1201 2 года назад

      @@jondrizzle4554 and this video shows you how to start up one of these English Electric locos, although these one is a class 40, a bigger machine than the one on these videos.
      ruclips.net/video/Q15YGU4-5v4/видео.html

  • @DEVONLAD11
    @DEVONLAD11 3 года назад +203

    All i can hear is greta thunberg saying YOU HAVE STOLLEN MY DREAMS.

  • @ozziemcbozzy3156
    @ozziemcbozzy3156 4 года назад +27

    That is absolutely insane,love it.full on tractor clag

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  4 года назад +1

      It sure is. Never seen another like it

    • @dennisyoung4631
      @dennisyoung4631 Год назад

      *Soot! Bloomin’ Soot! It makes the railfans get up and Hoot!*
      (Apologies to Kipling)

  • @JonDingle
    @JonDingle 3 года назад +15

    That looked and sounded truly fantastic!

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад +2

      It sure did Never seen another 37 worked like this one was. I bet they could hear it miles away

  • @scopex2749
    @scopex2749 6 лет назад +8

    BUGGER ME MEGA CLAGG! Bloody awesome superb! Thanks for sharing, cool driver. Wheel slipping like a good’un as he blips the reg!

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад

      Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching

    • @beyergarret123
      @beyergarret123 6 лет назад

      There's nothing good about wheel slipping, it might look fun to the Anoraks but it does the rails no good at all, I worked on the P Way on the Midland main line back in the seventies and it wasn't unusual to have to change sections of rail at the ends of platforms because they became rippled due to poor starting procedure..I can't imagine the wheels themselves fared much better.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +1

      I have seen that kind of damage as well. A huge expense for the railway caused by a few moments of inattentive driving. I have also seen the result of damage to a wheel which made a ripple similar to seen on the rails. This I was told needs to be re profiled otherwise in service the wheel damage quickly gets worse as the wheel bounces on the damaged part and can lead to cracks developing in the tyre.

    • @ryanmorrison3699
      @ryanmorrison3699 4 года назад +1

      I love this comment! It’s the most British thing I’ve ever read!

    • @scopex2749
      @scopex2749 3 года назад

      Must add to this - I worked as a train engineer for SWT and then London Underground for years and Ive see the rippled tracks - I didnt mean it was 'good' to spin the wheels just commenting that he was doing it :) We spent over 2 years developing anti slip/ anti skid for the new generation of trains and locos. My respects to PWay I used to see them going past the Wimbledon depot at 2am with the track replacement trains on the main lines into London - HARD WORK!!

  • @cyco781loco1
    @cyco781loco1 3 года назад +29

    That sound reminds me of growing up in the 80s living near a blue circle cement plant when the 37s used to roar

    • @chloedevereaux1801
      @chloedevereaux1801 3 года назад

      was that in beeston nottingham?

    • @cyco781loco1
      @cyco781loco1 3 года назад +1

      @@chloedevereaux1801 no In Handsworth in Birmingham

    • @richardday487
      @richardday487 3 года назад +1

      So did I near the Northfleet plant. Ran right next to where I lived

    • @ebktoonz8436
      @ebktoonz8436 Год назад

      ​@@richardday487sound of them 37 bring back some fond memories ey

  • @markosmith8037
    @markosmith8037 2 года назад +23

    great video - I learnt a lot about diesel-electric locomotives after reading up about how these function. Even though the technique here doesn't look textbook (for whatever reason), it certainly seems to be doing the job and the build quality speaks for itself.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  2 года назад +6

      Thank you Marko. I was told they usually used 2 x locos to haul the train out on the very steep gradient, on this day the 2nd loco did not arrive until the whole train was put together, I wonder if the driver was taking it out on the loco maybe hoping it would fail. Whatever the reason he sure put on a good show and I never saw anything like it again.

  • @shinvelcro
    @shinvelcro 3 года назад +9

    That looks like how I play train sim trying to keep under the speed limit on a gradient. Nice vid!

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад

      Thanks. I hope you do not let the wheels slip and damage the rails like this driver

    • @nounoufriend
      @nounoufriend 3 года назад

      @@cedarcam At least you can see wheel slip protection working , we once had one go out with wheel slip board missing it wore chunk out rail

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад +1

      @@nounoufriend I have seen where that has happened and caused severe damage to the rails and I guess the loco wheels. Not long ago I was shown a photo where a class 66 had worn the rails down to the ballast 3 axles at one end of the loco just melted the rail away.

    • @nounoufriend
      @nounoufriend 3 года назад

      @@cedarcam 66's will slowly slip all wheels slowly if you keep power on ,. had one that wouldn't shift loaded coal train out flooded yard . The 37 incident was few years ago it would not grind out had to put new rail in . Can't beat class 60 for wheel slip control worst you feel is little jump then load share kicks in seamlessly . It has individual control of wheels unlike 66's super series . Driving them back on after derailment Cl 60 is loads better off road than 66 ( we use to drive them up wood packing to get back on rail )

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад +1

      @@nounoufriend Thanks. I knew about the 66 from a film I saw many years ago There must of been some kind of fault on this one Sadly I have no details of where it happened it was just a photo sent into the office by email. The 60 does seem to be a great load hauler I saw one pull away from a red on iron ore which used to use 3 x 37. I was amazed how easy it made it look but on MGR trains where I was they always said a 56 was faster away. I had wondered why some trains were held back a block behind and not at the junction signal which was on a steep gradient. The signaller said if a 56 they held it at the junction A 60 a block back so it got enough speed up not to delay a passenger running off the branch behind it.

  • @peterowbottom1110
    @peterowbottom1110 6 лет назад +7

    37141, had it like that on the Marches, utter beast of a loco, this video is fantastic

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks. It is a favourite of mine too

    • @MrJimbaloid
      @MrJimbaloid 6 лет назад

      Oh and how would you know.

    • @peterowbottom1110
      @peterowbottom1110 6 лет назад

      How would I know what? read the comment,. which part are you struggling with in particular to comprehend?

    • @MrJimbaloid
      @MrJimbaloid 6 лет назад

      Errrrrrrrr sorry pete I don't think I aimed that at you. Again sorry old bean I might have made an awful mistake.

    • @MrJimbaloid
      @MrJimbaloid 6 лет назад

      It was meant for hector not you very sorry.

  • @davehowe4714
    @davehowe4714 5 лет назад +14

    Holy hell on wheels that was awesome, I love the sound of power being used under control 👍🏼

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  5 лет назад +2

      Wasn't it ! I never saw a 37 worked like that before or since

  • @ianjones4116
    @ianjones4116 4 года назад +9

    Proper Driver !!! One in the Nose for Gretta !!!!😂😍

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  4 года назад +1

      Probably bored stiff now driving a 66 with no thrash or retired happy that he drove these when we had proper trains

  • @muhammadfadhiil5992
    @muhammadfadhiil5992 3 месяца назад +1

    that's one brutal growling from a locomotive

  • @FreightLocos
    @FreightLocos 6 лет назад +32

    That was awesome! wish we still have loads of 37's around these days, so much character, so much noise

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад

      Yes I miss the days of these and my favourite class 40's blasting up grade on a heavy freight. Had a 37 audible at least 3 miles away once on a night when it had to take an engineers train to be re marshalled and the gradient was steep like on here. The driver sure worked it hard. Would of loved a recording of that.

    • @ladytinkaharris6637
      @ladytinkaharris6637 3 года назад

      @@cedarcam sorry cedarcam I beg to differ because I grew up as a kid around the sound of the class 37 I must admit the class 37 is my favourite to me the class 40s look like chi hua hua with bulging eyes the class 40s have never been appealing to me

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад

      @@ladytinkaharris6637 OK I feel the same about the Deltics for some reason their look never appealed to me.

    • @SirReginaldBlomfield1234
      @SirReginaldBlomfield1234 3 года назад

      Deltics look like Oprah 😟

    • @giglefreakz
      @giglefreakz 2 года назад

      so much pollution

  • @irelandbloke
    @irelandbloke 4 месяца назад +1

    Awesome sound ! 👍

  • @g8ymw
    @g8ymw 6 лет назад +19

    In the words of Mathew Corbett (Or his dad, Harry)
    "HELLO SOOTY" lol

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +2

      LOL Maybe he was trying to get the genie to come out

  • @donpoIlo2982
    @donpoIlo2982 3 года назад +2

    What... This is brilliant just listen to that magnificent engine and all that power, could listen all day to this

    • @donpoIlo2982
      @donpoIlo2982 3 года назад

      Beats the boring new electric trains ( especially the class 80x )

  • @TrainTrackTrav
    @TrainTrackTrav 6 лет назад +44

    Just epic! Great thrash, and tons of "plant food" coming out the top!

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +7

      LOL More like weed killer

    • @andypreston1524
      @andypreston1524 6 лет назад +2

      TrainTrackTrav
      It's gorgeous, I love the sound of the turbos spooling down after each booting!!!

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +3

      Yea I always like the sound of that too.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +1

      Yea I like all EE locos. Great sounding engines and have outlasted many newer locos. Sadly looking like the last of the 20's will be going soon but a lot of 08's still about

    • @Moodster020
      @Moodster020 6 лет назад

      The 20s (HNRC ones) will be around for a good few years yet.

  • @tincansailor2614
    @tincansailor2614 6 лет назад +18

    The turbo lag..... it's amazing..... love it!

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +4

      Yes Awesome isn't it.

  • @alanbanks9474
    @alanbanks9474 2 года назад +1

    Absolutely cracking that. More than a chuckle escaping my mouth watching this circus.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  2 года назад

      Thank you Glad you enjoyed watching

  • @EastSussexTrainSpotter
    @EastSussexTrainSpotter 6 лет назад +38

    Just clearing something out! 😊😂😂😂😂😂

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +4

      That's what its all about Loco would run nicely after that LOL

  • @justinobrien3593
    @justinobrien3593 3 года назад +2

    Seriously black clagg coming out of that beast 🤩😍🥰

  • @SansPareil
    @SansPareil 6 лет назад +168

    entertaining for sure but on paper not the best way to drive. Maybe the driver was playing more to the crowd and his own enjoyment than to actually move the train :)

    • @Liberator975
      @Liberator975 6 лет назад +9

      Sans Pareil yet according to pur government. This Manor is better for the environment than holding steady rpm. As black smoke is unburnt fuel. Less nox. Oir government are trying to make us all buy petrol cars before they make us buy electric. Try telling me that when im smoking along in a diesel 4x4

    • @g8ymw
      @g8ymw 6 лет назад +20

      Unburned fuel is not black, it's white. That is very rich running, it will clear if (a) the engine catches up with the fuel being put in or (b) the driver/ traction control backs off.
      Maybe the loco needs a service?
      Notice the "good ole boys" in the US like doing this with their pick-ups, call it "Rolling Coal"

    • @Liberator975
      @Liberator975 6 лет назад +2

      g8ymw unburnt fuel white. This is because mechanical diesel can't govern fuel based on rpm. The engine is under load and throttles thrown open.

    • @Liberator975
      @Liberator975 6 лет назад +30

      The Grumpy Southerner not at all. I've worked on diesel engines for 15+ years if a Turbo weaped that much oil. The engine would run away. Black smoke is rich air/fuel ratio. If you pay attention, it clears after the initial blast, before the throttles are closed. As a friend of mine calls it. Black smoke is a byproduct of power

    • @Liberator975
      @Liberator975 6 лет назад +1

      The Grumpy Southerner I'm talking marine diesels. Very similar to loco diesels. Its the government and dosing to the rail. As apposed to electronically fired diesel that can adjust dosing to rpm to compression

  • @andyhinds542
    @andyhinds542 2 месяца назад +1

    By a class 37's standards, that is mental!

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  2 месяца назад

      Sure was. Never seen anything like it since

  • @rog37685
    @rog37685 6 лет назад +65

    Ok this is my 54th time viewing its just awsome

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +2

      LOL It is addictive yes. I keep watching it myself. It was hidden away on a tape I had not looked at for years.

    • @rog37685
      @rog37685 6 лет назад +1

      cedarcam yes here I am watching it again lol

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +2

      :)

    • @rog37685
      @rog37685 6 лет назад +1

      cedarcam guess what 100th time viewing and it still surprises me I think I'm gonna watch this for ever can not stop lol :,)

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +2

      LOL I cannot believe how many watch each day Must be a lot like you can't keep away. I do keep looking myself too

  • @archerry6457
    @archerry6457 3 года назад +2

    Somewhere, a small, insignificant Swedish schoolgirl can be heard having a tantrum.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад

      She sure will if she did not realise the video is older than her

  • @ob1983
    @ob1983 4 года назад +7

    Wow, amazing footage - fantastic clip :)

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  4 года назад

      Thank you. That's quite a sight yea

  • @davehodges6258
    @davehodges6258 3 месяца назад +1

    Top driver that knows what he is doing there, 👍

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 месяца назад

      LOL I bet his instructor did not teach him this technique

    • @davehodges6258
      @davehodges6258 3 месяца назад

      @@cedarcam No i guess not"! but it looks like having many years on the rails one gets to know them and there engines power and what there are moving behind them,!😎

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 месяца назад

      @@davehodges6258 They do yes A memory that stays in my mind when we got a lift on a long coal train was how the driver knew he could start away on full power and not slip the wheels, we slowly built up speed and a while before where we wanted dropping off went down to idle and hardly using the brake stopped just where we wanted

  • @bertthime4503
    @bertthime4503 3 года назад +3

    Lovely sound 👌

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад

      I bet you could hear this a few miles away

  • @That_Uk_Spotter
    @That_Uk_Spotter 9 месяцев назад

    37s are easily the best sounding trains in the country like nothing beats them

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  9 месяцев назад

      Out of what's left of our old locos they are. I always liked a 40 on full power and the 50's had a great sound too

  • @ctiley2212
    @ctiley2212 3 года назад +24

    It probably had a turbocharger problem and wasn't getting enough air for the fuel load.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад +3

      It is running fine When the engines fuel is readmitted the turbos are not going fast enough to burn it

    • @paulcollyer801
      @paulcollyer801 3 года назад

      Hear how the revs go up but not the speed, all diesels will coke under heavy load, the nature of the fuel.
      Tis but a show methinks, wheelspins & plumes

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад +1

      @@paulcollyer801 Yes either putting on a show for the 2 who look to be taking photos by the building or he is having a bad day taking it out on the loco. Either way bad way to treat a loco

  • @Able00999
    @Able00999 3 года назад

    Thank you for the written explanation of why the black smoke is produced.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад

      Thank you I recently added that in the description after another poster suggested it when I replied to him Glad you found it useful

  • @thestaffordshiretrainspott5799
    @thestaffordshiretrainspott5799 5 лет назад +7

    Absolute hellfire

  • @SMX815
    @SMX815 2 года назад +1

    This gives me goosebumps as that rumble is just raw power & they are king of the railways 👏🇬🇧

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  2 года назад

      They sure rumble when they lay on the power. See a station carpark full of wailing cars after one of these passes on full power, magic.

    • @SMX815
      @SMX815 2 года назад +1

      @@cedarcam yes they are amazing & the engine are on a whole another level 👍

  • @johnbrown9092
    @johnbrown9092 6 лет назад +5

    We agree.Awesome locomotives.

    • @will_levitt926
      @will_levitt926 2 года назад

      37’s always will be awesome locomotives

  • @quadra21
    @quadra21 6 месяцев назад +1

    as a French for me we have the best loco, but gotta admit, Class 37 is purely heaven.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 месяцев назад +1

      Our 37 is now a celebrity loco LOL They have done well to last so many years while newer ones have been dragged to the scrap yard by them. Nothing else we have now is quite like them

    • @quadra21
      @quadra21 6 месяцев назад

      37 remind me BB67000, here still the 60s, and still do great job! nothing can replace them!

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 месяцев назад +1

      @@quadra21 When I went to Paris on Eurostar I saw some of those loco's and in Belgium they still run their series 62's Seems the old ones are still the best for some jobs

  • @mikan004
    @mikan004 3 года назад +4

    Thug life class 37 smokong weed

  • @justinobrien3593
    @justinobrien3593 Год назад +1

    Best class 37 clagg thrash video ive ever seen these locomotives are ruthless beasts 😍🥰🤩🔥🔥🔥

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  Год назад

      Thank you Justin. I never saw anything like it sine pure brute force

  • @johnpauljones6229
    @johnpauljones6229 3 года назад +3

    What a great sound!!! 🎶

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад

      Sure is I bet it could be heard a few miles away

  • @trainfan452
    @trainfan452 Год назад

    Clag clag clag this is the best ive seen of a thrash and a clag at the same time

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  Год назад

      I saw a lot of 37's worked hard but never anything like this again.

  • @cedarcam
    @cedarcam  6 лет назад +5

    No it is not a cold engine making so much smoke, in this case it is one being worked very hard. These locos were designed to pull heavy freight and express passenger trains so an all rounder and quite at home on either. Some are still in use today.

  • @joshjones3408
    @joshjones3408 Год назад +2

    Sounds like he got 18 SPEED with double overdrive an he took off in the basement just snatching gears..👍👍👍👍👍

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  Год назад +1

      Yea Some beast of a loco Others have said that as well

  • @xxx_faze_gavinairways_xxx1547
    @xxx_faze_gavinairways_xxx1547 4 года назад +5

    when mom keeps on calling you

  • @GRRR1148
    @GRRR1148 6 месяцев назад

    The 0623 to London Paddington was cancelled yesterday and there was a pair of Class 37s sitting at platform 1 of Cardiff Central instead, idling with a few rail scanning/surveying carriages. I didn’t mind the 30 mins extra wait listening to them idle, the platforms shaking and filling with diesel smoke under the platform canopies. Awesome.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 месяцев назад

      I would of liked to hear that too. I have an audio recording of one in Carlisle made on a Micro-speak digital recorder by Talking Products. A great little gadget for things like that.

  • @andypreston1524
    @andypreston1524 6 лет назад +4

    Love it. Love it....and love it!!!!!

  • @danielsmith-wr3mk
    @danielsmith-wr3mk 4 месяца назад +1

    What a weapon. Fantastic machine

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  4 месяца назад

      Yea Highly aggressive sound. Not many left in service now. A few run on heritage lines though

  • @misterree1443
    @misterree1443 3 года назад +3

    You lot are fricking hilarious!!

  • @justinobrien3593
    @justinobrien3593 3 года назад +1

    Its seriously insane pure dirty black diesel thrash! Its got to be the best thrash video I've ever seen on RUclips lol 😆

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад

      Thank you It is certainly the only time I have seen flames being thrown out like that Sometimes a shower of sparks and glow in the exhausts and the amount of smoke !

  • @harrymcandrew1447
    @harrymcandrew1447 5 лет назад +3

    1:17 bet the driver of that train was wondering what the hell the 37 was doing

  • @TheCymbalProject
    @TheCymbalProject 3 года назад +1

    That engine looks like thoroughbred racer being asked to do a draught horse's duty.

  • @jedkendray9814
    @jedkendray9814 6 лет назад +4

    What more do i say but- HELLFIRE!!!!

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +1

      Yes it really was fire from her heart. Awesome

  • @delticnapierdccsound4236
    @delticnapierdccsound4236 Год назад +1

    This is a dream . MEINE LORDZ 🔥

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  Год назад

      Incredible isn't it. I never saw anything like it since

  • @pxsrrail2558
    @pxsrrail2558 5 лет назад +39

    Can we get an F for the 120 polar bears killed

  • @drippingtap
    @drippingtap 3 года назад +2

    class: is trying to focus
    that one kid:

  • @yoshimuracosplay7020
    @yoshimuracosplay7020 3 года назад +4

    Stay cool, Stay Coal !

  • @justinobrien3593
    @justinobrien3593 3 года назад +1

    Hellfire thrash and thick black diesel clagg pumping out of that beast lol I've watched it about 20 times or more lol it's addictive watching tractors lol 😄🤣😂😍🥰😍🥰

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад

      Glad you found it. Yea keep watching it myself Never seen anything like it since and they do not get the really heavy work to do anymore 2 x these on 2000 ton train was a fantastic sight in those days

  • @grahamallen4249
    @grahamallen4249 6 лет назад +62

    Is it wrong to watch 10 times..!

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +5

      LOL Awesome isn't it. I have seen them working hard but never thrashed like this Note the open windows on the building Bet they were chocking in there.

    • @rog37685
      @rog37685 6 лет назад +3

      Graham Allen I've watched it 54times

    • @PaulJohnson-hw6vs
      @PaulJohnson-hw6vs 6 лет назад +1

      LOL

    • @bradleyclarke6800
      @bradleyclarke6800 6 лет назад +2

      No

    • @thebeast2746
      @thebeast2746 5 лет назад +1

      Graham Allen you sad sad twat get a life

  • @samanthawoodward7551
    @samanthawoodward7551 7 месяцев назад

    Its a flaming devil 😈. Absolutely love these,.reminds me if being a child in the 80's

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  7 месяцев назад

      Yea never saw anything like it again. Not many of these left on the main now.

  • @draxlerchronicles5851
    @draxlerchronicles5851 4 года назад +6

    That's me after an Indian.

  • @captainbimble
    @captainbimble Год назад +2

    Now that's what I call a clag spewing growler!

  • @glenhoff1443
    @glenhoff1443 3 месяца назад +1

    Brought a smile to my face!!

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 месяца назад

      Never tire of watching this myself

    • @glenhoff1443
      @glenhoff1443 3 месяца назад

      Just brilliant to watch, just brilliant. Well done you.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 месяца назад

      @@glenhoff1443 Thank you. The real credit to a friend who actually filmed it and I copied it from his tape. He used to go here often and this day we got lucky to see this incredible sight

    • @glenhoff1443
      @glenhoff1443 3 месяца назад

      @cedarcam How lucky. This is what you call quality archive material. Happy days sadly now long gone.
      Growing up as a youngster I loved all the diesel locos especially the class 50s that came to Brum! Now that's a thrash machine.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 месяца назад

      @@glenhoff1443 Yes the railway is very dull now Back then there was plenty of action and variety. Today 21 06 2024 I had some class 50 haulage on KWVR No full thrash or speed but still enjoyed reminiscing. I saw them at Crewe first when they were taking over from electric locomotives some trains double headed Fantastic sound.

  • @markrhuett
    @markrhuett 6 лет назад +3

    Do they still use the Class 37 in regular freight service? I'm from California and I'd love to travel just to see these awesome machines.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +5

      There are not many left in service now but you can see them working on freight and some passenger trains Also there are several preserved examples so you could get haulage on one of those and even possibly get to drive one, as some of our private lines have driver experience days where for a fee you get to drive either steam or diesel on an empty passenger train. We have a web site called realtime trains. It is free to look up there almost any train in the country and the company operating it. There you can sometimes find what type of loco is on the train. You could have a look on there and find out which places you are likely to see one. A place many tourists like to see is York and the company DRS have a track right by the station where they often park one up. Another line people like to ride is Settle to Carlisle and DRS have a depot at Carlisle so they pass the station on there way there. They also work the passenger trains from there along the scenic coast line though Whitehaven so you can check out train times along that line.

    • @cmdrquillon9398
      @cmdrquillon9398 5 лет назад +1

      They still use them occasionally - companies like Colas Rail still have them in their fleet, but most of the functional engines are in heritage or museum use.

    • @jamesbradford4550
      @jamesbradford4550 5 лет назад +1

      Direct rail services still use many of them on the main line, and loads of them on heritage railways

  • @swedishgeese.1
    @swedishgeese.1 3 месяца назад +1

    0:55 This is how a Class 37 proposes to its mate. It forms a clag heart.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 месяца назад

      Yea I was pleased youtube bot picked that for the icon. There was no choice back then.

  • @7822welshsteam
    @7822welshsteam 6 лет назад +3

    BEAST!

  • @motoxmadman16
    @motoxmadman16 3 года назад

    Wow see the flames in the exhaust that's hell fire to the max fair play to the driver

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад

      I have seen a few 37 worked very hard but never anything like this again.

  • @Isochest
    @Isochest 6 лет назад +18

    I take it the driver was dealing with wheelslip

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +6

      Yes it appears so by the way the engine cuts out and in. The load is heavy on a 1 in 90 (1.1 %) grade

    • @GaryNumeroUno
      @GaryNumeroUno 3 года назад +1

      Not very efficiently though. Far too much power too quickly then cutting it too far too quickly.

    • @bonkeydollocks1879
      @bonkeydollocks1879 3 года назад +3

      @@GaryNumeroUno the loco cuts it off automatically, it has a fancy name I can't remember.
      The driver has just opined the throttle wide and let the anti slip thing control it, the driver is not putting the power on and off.

    • @GaryNumeroUno
      @GaryNumeroUno 3 года назад

      @@bonkeydollocks1879 cheers good buddy. It is the wheelslip protection circuit. I appreciate where you are coming from but it is not meant to be operated that way. The driver still has way too much power on and should have throttled back accordingly to control it better. Just lazy driving... we have guys like that on our locos in Western Australia but generally most treat the job as it should be... a skilled trade. Stay safe.

    • @bonkeydollocks1879
      @bonkeydollocks1879 3 года назад

      @@GaryNumeroUno oh yea definitely, could have been more gentle with it, more productive with it

  • @djtrainspotter
    @djtrainspotter 6 лет назад +2

    Yeah nice delicate throttling the Growler with gentle feathering! Plenny work to do there for driver and loco around Peak Forest, now got this on loop, excellent

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад

      I am sure if I were at work this would of been on a loop on my PC. Stopped the darn thing going to sleep. I used to have short cab ride I liked there.

  • @nwsd50sproductions49
    @nwsd50sproductions49 5 лет назад +4

    When You don’t have enough money to own A Eco-Friendly Locomotive

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  5 лет назад +1

      In those days eco friendly was not an issue. This was not the norm for the type of loco but many that are now scrapped used to pour smoke out back then

    • @lecco666
      @lecco666 3 года назад +1

      Screw eco friendly

  • @gerardodiaz3090
    @gerardodiaz3090 3 года назад +2

    The smoke is making hearts❤

  • @markmather1336
    @markmather1336 6 лет назад +19

    Wonder what his carbon footprint is.

  • @robertmoss279
    @robertmoss279 4 месяца назад +1

    Greta “How dare you😮”. Me “Amazing ❤” 🤗

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  4 месяца назад

      Yea and back then no one was obsessed with clean zones and loud engines.

  • @BarnacleBill77
    @BarnacleBill77 5 лет назад +3

    Now that's clag!

  • @leroyholm9075
    @leroyholm9075 3 года назад

    The Tiger of late 60s dieselisation!

  • @306cuber
    @306cuber 3 года назад +4

    27 speed gearbox. ;)

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад +1

      LOL Sounds like it

  • @forbeshutton5487
    @forbeshutton5487 3 года назад

    Brilliant! With it producing it's own smoke screen the Luftwaffe will never see it.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад

      LOL A bit late for that but like the comment. Also like your model work.

    • @s.l.9309
      @s.l.9309 3 года назад

      Forbes Hutton: nothing learned since 1945.....👎🏻

  • @LIMowersAndMore
    @LIMowersAndMore 4 года назад +2

    Interesting these reminds me of the ALCOS here in the US of A

  • @jeffbetts2
    @jeffbetts2 3 года назад +1

    They's somethin wrong with that boy's head.

  • @superbracey
    @superbracey 6 лет назад +4

    Is it the driver or the loco cutting the revs and then reapplying? Because I never understood why they often do this. Wouldn't steady revs provide a more constant flow pf electricity to the traction motors?

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +12

      This driver is applying full power and letting the wheel slip detection cut the power. Not the best way to get the load moving. Normally they apply a lot of power to get the train moving then ease off because they reach maximum amps then apply power again more gently keeping an eye on the ammeter and wheel slip indicator putting sand down as required and adjusting the power to as much as they can without loosing traction. That takes a lot more skill than just blasting away on full power like here.

    • @superbracey
      @superbracey 6 лет назад

      cedarcam
      If I had scrolled down I would have seen that others have also asked the same question. My bad.
      But locos often sound like they're revving then backing off. Now I know why. Cheers.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +3

      No problem Superbracy I was going to say to look there but did not want to sound rude. Anyway Yes that is why you often see a driver back off. Another thing I have noticed is even up hill a wagon will roll a little under momentum when the driver backs off and that will slacken the couplers. As power is re applied there is less load on the loco and it will gain a bit more speed without slipping. This also takes skill. Not to snatch and break a link taking up the slack too quickly.

    • @steveelliott241
      @steveelliott241 6 лет назад

      of course , hes just jamming the throttle full open , and shutting it off again , to drown the engine in diesel , and cause it to blow huge black clouds of smoke skywards to make people go " wow ! "

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +4

      I doubt he thought 30 years later over 50,000 would of watched him do it

  • @viliusr.8792
    @viliusr.8792 2 года назад

    I am sure driver is salivating and enjoying the action.. what a dreamjob.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  2 года назад

      I wonder if he was putting on a show for the guys by the building who look to have a camera

    • @viliusr.8792
      @viliusr.8792 2 года назад

      @@cedarcam absolutely, with such a beast in hands you can make a day for just about anybody, put a smile on womans faces, chicks really dig the trains and drivers.

  • @20PhantoM07
    @20PhantoM07 4 года назад +4

    That's train porn!

  • @richardturnbull6333
    @richardturnbull6333 3 года назад

    Best thrash and clag I've ever seen.... thanks for posting

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад +1

      Thanks I have never seen anything like it since

  • @hreader
    @hreader 3 года назад +5

    That engine needs de-coking - if it were a car it would be breaking the law, surely.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад +1

      There is nothing wrong with the engine. If it were a car it would be breaking the law Railways were exempt from emissions regulations in 1980's and to some extent still are

  • @leroyholm9075
    @leroyholm9075 3 года назад +1

    How good is this the iconic class 37 growls at its detactors!

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  3 года назад

      Yes although this one is probably cut up a few are still showing they can do good work for a few more years at least

  • @stephensmith799
    @stephensmith799 6 лет назад +4

    They repaid their costs for sure. I was a bit anti diesel as a kid (because they displaced steam) but 37s do have a presence about them and are ugly in a sort of oddly attractive way!

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +2

      Yes Many times over. I remember steams last days but not old enough to go to watch trains. I did see a lot though as we often used the train to go to town. I liked steam a lot. It was only when I met a friend who went to watch trains around 1972 I began to get interested in diesels. 37's are covered in vents making them the least finished looking of EE's, I think, but I do like them and they can haul more than my favourite class 40 with 250 less horses

    • @stephensmith799
      @stephensmith799 6 лет назад

      I started early, watching steam locos on shed from a line-side playground (at top of the childen's slide) c. 1958-9. It is strange that I can still smell the smoke from the coal used (Point-of-Air colliery I was told later)... the memory is that strong!

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад +1

      That's something I remember as well. The smell of smoke. We lived in London a while when I was 3 1/2 to 5. I remember Kings Cross seeing the A4's Euston with Coronations and Paddington. Those pannier tanks with Walschaerts valve gear. Best of all was the Blue Pullman though Still my all time favourite train So sad non were saved

    • @stephensmith799
      @stephensmith799 6 лет назад +1

      By accident I realised that egg sandwiches taste much better in tunnels due to sulphur dioxide gasses in loco smoke which came in through the windows... (Only with steam locos mind you.) You saw some fine locos. I only knew fairly common ones: BR 3MT tanks, Panniers, Manors, BR Standard 4 4-6-0s and 2-6-Os, 9Fs, one Britannia (at Shrewsbury) and Southern Pacifics. Those GW Panniers with outside gear were kind of cool... but I never saw one. Nothing Eastern Region at all...

    • @stephensmith799
      @stephensmith799 6 лет назад +1

      I should have mentioned seeing Blue Pullmans at Leamington Spa. The drivers dressed like milkmen in white coats!

  • @Radio478
    @Radio478 Год назад +1

    Absolutely fantastic thanks 😊

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  Год назад

      Thanks Glad you enjoyed watching this hard working loco

  • @cefnonn
    @cefnonn 6 лет назад +4

    That's no way to treat a locomotive - or the Planet.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад

      There is a lot less smoke from this loco than many I have seen on a lighter load. It is the way it is being driven hard that is not good

    • @1974silverboy
      @1974silverboy 6 лет назад

      cefnonn co2. Plant food. No co2, humans die from no oxygen

  • @spock31132
    @spock31132 6 лет назад +2

    Fire breathing dragons do exist In deepest Derbyshire.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam  6 лет назад

      LOL They did but I think they are extinct there now :(