Ah, this is my neck of the woods, I was only down there last week for a look. Wasn’t aware one man was stopping progress for his own greed.. typical rich businessman, only in it for himself… great info of the lock and the area.. I hope work resumes soon..👍🏻
@@rodden1953 I am surprised tbh, like I said I wasn’t aware of any issue but it’s like anything corporate, no matter where they start or what they stand for as soon as money is involved everything changes.. shame really and I hope it’s not actually true and work recommences soon
I had a look at the site shortly after seeing this facinating video. A possibe explanation is a boat repair/servicing site. The change in level achieved by closing the sluice would only be about half a meter but would probably be sufficient to bring an empty wooden narrow boat on to a low dry dock area. This could explain why there are two locks so close to each other on a very gentle slope and building labelled boat house on the nls map which is both away from the canal edge and parallel rather than perpendicular to it. The feeder stream on th opposite bank would alloww
sorry pressed the wrong button. would allow for reasonably rapid turnaround. Just a thought. perhaps restoration, when it happens, will shine more light on the matter. Tank you both for a highly enjoyable channel
It's a long way from the Cotswolds, but we had a wind-up one at Hollingwood Hub. :) It seems a good idea for the kids, but I'm sorry to say the poor sound quality just gives me a headache. Actually, to be honest, I couldn't hear well enough to understand anything out of those things when I was a kid. My hearing was tested and came out fine. I'm sure it's partly due to the waterproof speaker, but I bought a waterproof Bluetooth speaker for myself, and it's not that bad. Now my health is getting better, perhaps I'll make a project of trying to design a better one.
That's half a mile away from where I live. We explored that area in the early to mid 80s whilst fishing. Elvers were everywhere. There was what looked like a water gate and parts of the mechanism, cogs etc in undergrowth nearby. (not where they should be as not near water) Not sure which side of the canal that was. Nick Kershaws I won't let the sun go down on me was in tbe charts at that time lol. Loving your vids. There's a house on the canal not far that has a little water way that comes off the canal but obvs it's not passable now. Used to carry goods from canal off towards Stroud etc owner said 😊
The gent certainly makes good video content. For a wider audience though the services of a voice coach in old-style BBC English narration might be a plus. 😉
@@wattster71 🤣🤣Well the US Marines had their Navaho "Windtalkers" so I guess that the multitude of Count(r)y Yokel accents in the Old Dart might have some value when the Russians extend their march West! 😰🙄🧐
Those ingenious Victorians! Babbage was somewhere in the background too - so the first computers not that far away either . What an inventive era - though paradoxically very underdeveloped socially as well.
A nice canal tour today. Very informative and interesting on the progress. The weather was quite cooperative. See you on the next Rebecca and Paul. Cheers mates! ❤❤😊😊
Rebecca, a true multi tasker. Got to love those Victorian engineers too. Afon Dysynni, in north Wales, has a river crossing beneath it in 2 places, with a 3rd river crossing over that!
hello again Paul Rebecca and Steve another great video as always , omg there's always one person , he should be ashamed of himself , really well done and thank you guys 😊😍
That was a very interesting find, I'm making a guess that the flow down to the river needed to be maintained whatever the level in the canal and perhaps gate valves were raised or lowered in order to maintain this flow. Lets hope that whatever the problems are around this final stretch of the canal that they get resolved. Great video, well Done!!
I seriously enjoy watching your vids, even to the point of at the weekend when I spend a lot of time with my mother who is eighty eight and she loves seeing the old engineering. But always ask's when your on your tod where is his wife the lovely one. But as always great work love seeing the fantastic Victorian tech which still works and is confusing as how they did it, we have lost so much engineering skill.
You mentioned the breadths of the Stroudwater and T&S canals (14 and 12 feet respectively.) There was a boatbuilders yard at Brimscombe, originally Clark’s, later Abdella and Mitchell. They built steamboats for clients worldwide. The canals’ gauges enabled many to be delivered either by purchasers or shipping agents on their own hulls. Some of those for Salters on the Thames (and others) still exist in service. The generous gauge (by UK standards) made this possible. Very interesting and detailed presentation as has become your standard. Many thanks.
Fascinating the works of Britains Canals. never tire of your fantastic videos on the subject. I came a cross a canal whilst researching some railway history. Ever heard of Car Dike in Lincolnshire? As you love Roman Roads and Britains Canals, how about the Roman Canal Car Dike? And is it the only Roman Canal in Britain? Would make an interesting subject for a video.
It’s not the same but I noticed on a canal near me there is a motorway bridge above a railway bridge and the railway bridge is above a footbridge for the canal and the canal it’s self must be suspended under a bridge because there’s a river big river flowing underneath the canal, im sure there’s another layer of bridges but the engineering is so fascinating especially when you consider when they were built
Another cracking video Paul and lovely to see Rebecca too looking very summery. A pity one man's jealousy is stopping progress from volunteers working on the canal, a compromise would not go amiss
I'm not an engineering or canal expert in any way, but one possibility that occurs to me is a single sluice with a gate divided horizontally so that the top half could be raised separately from the bottom half. However, I'm not sure if you could maintain a good enough seal between the two halves when both were lowered.
Good job including preview snippets at the beginning 👍 Liked these especially. (The Hidden London Hangout team don't do those very well, I regularly find myself rather annoyed by theirs. Work perfect as a Short advertising the epsiode, but not as en entry into the episode. - Yours are definitely better, P&R.)
Fascinating exploration of a very unusual triple weir. Will it be restored along with the canal, or is it redundant now? Hopefully the dispute will be sorted soon so that restoration can re-commence,
I don't the area, or history of this pound, but I wonder if the lower Weir was set to the normal height of water, and when in times of high water flows either from operation of the locks or from the stream a second overflow Weir came into operation. Was there a mill that used the water either upstream or down?
I don't suppose it's the same, but there's a sort of triple-weir at Hartingdon Harbour on the Chesterfield Canal, and it's new. The overspilling water can take up to 3 different ways through the weir. If there's only a small amount of water spilling, it goes through an underground pipe which isn't very large. I'm not clear on what the middle-capacity path involves or why it's different from the high-capacity path, but while it was being built I saw a lot of big brick pillars with not all that much space between them; there was more pillar than space. I think this spills out the back of the weir to a channel that's clear but normally dry. Then if there's too much water for that, I think it goes over the top of the pillars, and I'm sure it spills out into that channel. I have no clue why they made it this complicated! :) Hartingdon Harbour is just outside Stavely Town Basin; down the lock and between the 2 huge road bridges of Ireland Close and Eckington Road. It's clearly marked on OpenStreetMap.
Having spoken to the CRT regarding restoration projects, why not put money into the system already in tact instead of money into projects that are unlikely to finish? The Lancaster is a good example as is the Chesterfield. As I work on the network there is so much that needs fixing.
Why build this just to drop the level by two feet? And why not build one on all pounds? If you need the pound drained for a reason just pull all the paddles on the next lock down, ie Westfield in this case. This weir is to allow the normal flow from the incoming brook to flow away gently, with the paddle being drawn when the stream is in spate. If the pound were to overtop the lock there would be a risk of damage to the lock structure.
Frustratingly we had to chop a significant section of this video owing to a conflict with the owner of the football ground being built. Suffice to say its all very much.... on hold.
when he says 150k aset lock gates is that 4 gates both ends or oneset one end? curious an loving these vidsstill well done u2 always something intersting
That’s more like it. Good narrative, suspense, resolution (sort of), and a pantomime baddy. Boo, hiss. A diagram would have helped comprehension, but they do take time to make.
If you look hard enough there will be a law to do with heritage .. ie if you make this grade 1 it's acquired by heritage trust nobody can stop it. Start a petition for parliament if this guy knows. He knows this is true ❤
Not just you Paul, I don’t get how it works either! I need to visit it myself and ponder it. I know how I would design it, but that’s a different issue! Another selfish landowner who only cares about himself and getting his own way. This, unfortunately, is not unique. You keep mentioning “behind the scenes” videos for Patrons. I don’t know how to access these or get notifications about them?
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Thank you!
Thank you for highlighting the work of volunteers. Too many RUclipsrs forget to mention that volunteers are so needed to do the work.
Ah, this is my neck of the woods, I was only down there last week for a look. Wasn’t aware one man was stopping progress for his own greed.. typical rich businessman, only in it for himself… great info of the lock and the area.. I hope work resumes soon..👍🏻
Which is the energy company that is referred to ?
@@andrewpreston4127 ecotricity I believe
@@hvee4if so, the guy who owns it also owns Sky Diamonds and is supporter of the Sea Shepherds environmentalist group.
@@hvee4 If it is Dale im really surprised he seems quite a reasonable guy
@@rodden1953 I am surprised tbh, like I said I wasn’t aware of any issue but it’s like anything corporate, no matter where they start or what they stand for as soon as money is involved everything changes.. shame really and I hope it’s not actually true and work recommences soon
Fantastic video thanks guys. That was quite exciting. Thanks for taking me along. Please take care
I had a look at the site shortly after seeing this facinating video. A possibe explanation is a boat repair/servicing site. The change in level achieved by closing the sluice would only be about half a meter but would probably be sufficient to bring an empty wooden narrow boat on to a low dry dock area. This could explain why there are two locks so close to each other on a very gentle slope and building labelled boat house on the nls map which is both away from the canal edge and parallel rather than perpendicular to it. The feeder stream on th opposite bank would alloww
sorry pressed the wrong button. would allow for reasonably rapid turnaround. Just a thought. perhaps restoration, when it happens, will shine more light on the matter. Tank you both for a highly enjoyable channel
The lock gate with the shiny buttons appears to be some form of audio History Trail that has been pulled together by the Cotswold Canals group...
It's absolutely brilliant.
Needs a QR code or a brass plaque with URL.
It's a long way from the Cotswolds, but we had a wind-up one at Hollingwood Hub. :) It seems a good idea for the kids, but I'm sorry to say the poor sound quality just gives me a headache. Actually, to be honest, I couldn't hear well enough to understand anything out of those things when I was a kid. My hearing was tested and came out fine. I'm sure it's partly due to the waterproof speaker, but I bought a waterproof Bluetooth speaker for myself, and it's not that bad. Now my health is getting better, perhaps I'll make a project of trying to design a better one.
Really interesting - those engineers were clever people. I’m still trying to get my head around how it works!
Just wonderful to see and hear about x.
That's half a mile away from where I live. We explored that area in the early to mid 80s whilst fishing. Elvers were everywhere. There was what looked like a water gate and parts of the mechanism, cogs etc in undergrowth nearby. (not where they should be as not near water) Not sure which side of the canal that was. Nick Kershaws I won't let the sun go down on me was in tbe charts at that time lol. Loving your vids. There's a house on the canal not far that has a little water way that comes off the canal but obvs it's not passable now. Used to carry goods from canal off towards Stroud etc owner said 😊
So glad you’ve introduced Steve to your audience. He makes great content, which is rapidly improving in terms of quality of production.
The gent certainly makes good video content. For a wider audience though the services of a voice coach in old-style BBC English narration might be a plus. 😉
@@theoztreecrasher2647 I’m originally from the South-West of England so sounds alright to me 😁!
@@wattster71 🤣🤣Well the US Marines had their Navaho "Windtalkers" so I guess that the multitude of Count(r)y Yokel accents in the Old Dart might have some value when the Russians extend their march West! 😰🙄🧐
Those ingenious Victorians! Babbage was somewhere in the background too - so the first computers not that far away either . What an inventive era - though paradoxically very underdeveloped socially as well.
A nice canal tour today. Very informative and interesting on the progress. The weather was quite cooperative. See you on the next Rebecca and Paul. Cheers mates! ❤❤😊😊
Our mate Martin Zero would love this!
Rebecca, a true multi tasker.
Got to love those Victorian engineers too.
Afon Dysynni, in north Wales, has a river crossing beneath it in 2 places, with a 3rd river crossing over that!
I see you two are having a good time in this video, as usual. The excitement enhances the video for sure. Thanks!
Good video felt light airy and fun
Hope you guys enjoyed making this one well done again paul and Rebecca
hello again Paul Rebecca and Steve another great video as always , omg there's always one person , he should be ashamed of himself , really well done and thank you guys 😊😍
That was a very interesting find, I'm making a guess that the flow down to the river needed to be maintained whatever the level in the canal and perhaps gate valves were raised or lowered in order to maintain this flow.
Lets hope that whatever the problems are around this final stretch of the canal that they get resolved.
Great video, well Done!!
I seriously enjoy watching your vids, even to the point of at the weekend when I spend a lot of time with my mother who is eighty eight and she loves seeing the old engineering. But always ask's when your on your tod where is his wife the lovely one. But as always great work love seeing the fantastic Victorian tech which still works and is confusing as how they did it, we have lost so much engineering skill.
Lichfield gets a mention :D But seriously it was a very interesting video and a shame that the work has currently stopped
That’s because Lichfield is an awesome bit of canal with an amazing group behind it
You mentioned the breadths of the Stroudwater and T&S canals (14 and 12 feet respectively.) There was a boatbuilders yard at Brimscombe, originally Clark’s, later Abdella and Mitchell. They built steamboats for clients worldwide. The canals’ gauges enabled many to be delivered either by purchasers or shipping agents on their own hulls. Some of those for Salters on the Thames (and others) still exist in service. The generous gauge (by UK standards) made this possible.
Very interesting and detailed presentation as has become your standard. Many thanks.
My home town ! Incredible project going on down there.
Thank you for another interesting video, I do like it when you do a canal video
awesome !!!....." another perfect video " ......cheers paul
Another treat thanks xxx
Another great video, like you, seeing the weir I would have wanted to know all about.
Hey dont point at me ,its you they are going to point at. I subscribed becouse you keep showing me perfect places to park.
Thanks guys! Loved the content as usual and the amazing engineering works hidden in the vegetation. Thanks to Steve too.
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As usual very interesting video. The only thing that could be improved is rebecca having a greater involvement in the interview. 8:51
Let's start a Rebecca fan-ciub!
Thank you
Fascinating the works of Britains Canals. never tire of your fantastic videos on the subject. I came a cross a canal whilst researching some railway history. Ever heard of Car Dike in Lincolnshire? As you love Roman Roads and Britains Canals, how about the Roman Canal Car Dike? And is it the only Roman Canal in Britain? Would make an interesting subject for a video.
Definitely on the cards
TY 🙏🙏
You have a great voice for the subject
Thank you.
It’s not the same but I noticed on a canal near me there is a motorway bridge above a railway bridge and the railway bridge is above a footbridge for the canal and the canal it’s self must be suspended under a bridge because there’s a river big river flowing underneath the canal, im sure there’s another layer of bridges but the engineering is so fascinating especially when you consider when they were built
Hanwell??
@@pwhitewick oh no sorry this was in saddleworth/uppermill near Manchester,I’ll make a video of it the next time im up that way
Another cracking video Paul and lovely to see Rebecca too looking very summery. A pity one man's jealousy is stopping progress from volunteers working on the canal, a compromise would not go amiss
I'm not an engineering or canal expert in any way, but one possibility that occurs to me is a single sluice with a gate divided horizontally so that the top half could be raised separately from the bottom half. However, I'm not sure if you could maintain a good enough seal between the two halves when both were lowered.
Thats great point, Charles. We did consider this possibility. As you suggest the seal would be a issue... but food for thought.
Hmmm...perhaps a survey of the weir, after some clearing of brush, might further illuminate how it functions or reveal the missing sluice gate.
Good job including preview snippets at the beginning 👍 Liked these especially. (The Hidden London Hangout team don't do those very well, I regularly find myself rather annoyed by theirs. Work perfect as a Short advertising the epsiode, but not as en entry into the episode. - Yours are definitely better, P&R.)
Looks like a vintage hydro power turbine
Steve seems like a genuinely lovely guy
Absolutely is yep
Love you r videos. Stroudwater/Thames,Severn fantastic projects. Hope they achieve th success of Rochdale, Huddersfield narrow Kennet and Avon.
Yay a new Video :)
Hope things get sorted sooner than later!!! 🤔🚂🚂🚂
Fascinating exploration of a very unusual triple weir. Will it be restored along with the canal, or is it redundant now? Hopefully the dispute will be sorted soon so that restoration can re-commence,
Its technically redundant. But IMO can still remain for all to see.
I don't the area, or history of this pound, but I wonder if the lower Weir was set to the normal height of water, and when in times of high water flows either from operation of the locks or from the stream a second overflow Weir came into operation. Was there a mill that used the water either upstream or down?
Amazing video!
Glad you think so!
Put my coffee down ?! How dare you !!!! 🤣
That’s land owners for you, always looking for what they can get out of it.
I don't suppose it's the same, but there's a sort of triple-weir at Hartingdon Harbour on the Chesterfield Canal, and it's new. The overspilling water can take up to 3 different ways through the weir. If there's only a small amount of water spilling, it goes through an underground pipe which isn't very large. I'm not clear on what the middle-capacity path involves or why it's different from the high-capacity path, but while it was being built I saw a lot of big brick pillars with not all that much space between them; there was more pillar than space. I think this spills out the back of the weir to a channel that's clear but normally dry. Then if there's too much water for that, I think it goes over the top of the pillars, and I'm sure it spills out into that channel. I have no clue why they made it this complicated! :)
Hartingdon Harbour is just outside Stavely Town Basin; down the lock and between the 2 huge road bridges of Ireland Close and Eckington Road. It's clearly marked on OpenStreetMap.
Having spoken to the CRT regarding restoration projects, why not put money into the system already in tact instead of money into projects that are unlikely to finish? The Lancaster is a good example as is the Chesterfield. As I work on the network there is so much that needs fixing.
Can you explore Cornwall abandon building?
Why build this just to drop the level by two feet? And why not build one on all pounds? If you need the pound drained for a reason just pull all the paddles on the next lock down, ie Westfield in this case.
This weir is to allow the normal flow from the incoming brook to flow away gently, with the paddle being drawn when the stream is in spate. If the pound were to overtop the lock there would be a risk of damage to the lock structure.
Nice graphics.
High quality right!!
You said you were going to see how far they'd got with Westfield lock - then didn't show us!
Frustratingly we had to chop a significant section of this video owing to a conflict with the owner of the football ground being built. Suffice to say its all very much.... on hold.
I would have thought the upper arch was for dropping the upper level and the lower two for the lower level one each for the lower levels each
Rebecca has new leather trousers
YAY! Canal... or navigation. What's the difference?
A canal is manmade. A navigation is an existing river adapted for barges.
I was wondering why Rebecca was being quiet.
when he says 150k aset lock gates is that 4 gates both ends or oneset one end? curious an loving these vidsstill well done u2 always something intersting
Good question. I assumed for a pair... I.e 300k for a full lock. But could be wrong.
@@pwhitewick im guessing each end too but who knows lol keep up d great work :)
@@RootsLion 100k for full lock set thirty to forty years ago on the rochdale so judgeing by inflation since the youre probably right 300k
@@markjones4704 wowzers
5.30pm release???? You teasing us Mr W????
Always.
That’s more like it. Good narrative, suspense, resolution (sort of), and a pantomime baddy. Boo, hiss. A diagram would have helped comprehension, but they do take time to make.
If you look hard enough there will be a law to do with heritage .. ie if you make this grade 1 it's acquired by heritage trust nobody can stop it. Start a petition for parliament if this guy knows. He knows this is true ❤
Its unanimous Rebecca, we all like your hair a lighter shade !
Not just you Paul, I don’t get how it works either! I need to visit it myself and ponder it. I know how I would design it, but that’s a different issue!
Another selfish landowner who only cares about himself and getting his own way. This, unfortunately, is not unique.
You keep mentioning “behind the scenes” videos for Patrons. I don’t know how to access these or get notifications about them?
Malcolm, are you a patreon or youtube member?
@@pwhitewick I’m a Patreon member; my name still appears in your end titles.
@Malcolm Smith ok then you should definitely get a notification from patreon as we post the videos in there weekly. Plus the discord group.
@@pwhitewick Okay thank you. I need to investigate my settings to see why the notifications are not appearing.
@pwhitewick >>> Great video...👍
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