Tom, another great video. P.S., I bet you noticed it appears some RUclipsrs and even some "traditional" news media seem to copycat your material, sometimes just a couple of days after you post. The good news: imitation is the ultimate compliment.
Thank you for the great review and the acknowledgement, Tom. Your videos are always top notch in their depth and information. As you noted, the NACS will come with it a difference holster solution.
So exciting to see NACS coming for home charging. Previously, only Tesla had anything. Glad to see others showing up now too. Thx for the video. I enjoyed watching.
Your videos are always great Tom. I did purchase an Emporia level two J1772 charger based on your recommendations and I am extremely happy with it. I am now trying to find information on a reliable, solar company in South Florida so that I can combine that with my system to eliminate the cost of charging my vehicle.
I got the Emporia Evse for my Bolt EV and I love it. Yes the holster they provided is crap. I bought a separate holster for it though and works great. I use the enphase holster and wrap the cord around the EVSE unit as it's perfectly designed to hold the cable. Emporia has great customer service as well and just added load management to my unit since I also have their Vue 2 as well. I wish there was videos about that as well.
Great video as always. I've said before that the Tesla Universal Connector would be our next EVSE once our old JuiceBox goes bad, but this Emporia with NACS might be our next EVSE instead. It's a really great value compared with most others! One thing I wish you were able to test is if that button actually does open the charge port on a Tesla because Lectron also offers an EVSE with NACS but they say the button only stops charging and does not open the charge port.
I purchased the J1772 version based on Tom's recommendation. It's been great, thank you. I also got a separate connector holster from Grizzl-E as they're not too far from me because I also hated the included holder. A question, will Emporia owners be able to directly replace an existing J1772 cable with a NACS cable? I had an electrician hardwire my unit with a dedicated copper cable and a 60A breaker and the connector blocks for the vehicle cable seem pretty similar. This leads me to wonder if swapping between J1772 and NACS cables is possible.
17:24 I’ve bought and installed this charger in the j1772 version. One thing that is very important & overlooked by many ‘reviewers’ on RUclips is hardwiring. You CAN NOT run NM-B (romex) of the CORRECT size to supply 48A continuous because the lugs are sized too small. I’ve reached out to Emporia, while I didn’t expect them to change their design based on my email, it appears their new charger has the same size lugs.
What gauge of romex did you have? The lugs are sized for 6 awg 90c rated thhn wire but since romex has a lower temp rating you would need 4 awg and that will not fit.
Loved the fact that you opened it up, and mentioned that getting an electrician is the way to go. That said you should mention that you unpower the unit before taking it apart, not everyone is as smart!
i have the J1172 version wonder if they will make the NACS version cable as a replacement. I have a J1172 car and a Tesla so I am just thinking out about it. yes the only thing is the thick cable. If they will switch their J1172 to the thinner cable I might as well go for that if they offer it as a part. if not well what I have will be fine.
Volex plc, an integrated manufacturer of critical power and data transmission products, is now a licensed partner of Tesla for the North American Charging Standard (NACS) EV Charging system.
Now that’s fantastic! I own 2 emporia’s. My next purchase (in a year or two) will be 2 Emporia load-sharing NACS. I’ll use an adaptor if I still have a J-plug car at that point.
Adding an adapter which is one additional junction to those AC pins, effectively adds about 7 feet of cable resistance to the overall resistance normally experienced and designed in by the OEM of any charger. As a temporary solution, it’s fine, but using a quality OEM adapter is going to be required, which if you’re straddling plugs that cost must be considered. My OEM charger manufacture offers a conversion kit that includes the built-in holster that you have reviewed and if I ever use a J3400 it will be by simply converting the existing charger I have. Only having one EV simplifies my charging needs and therefore choices. Good review, great price and warranty. 42:56
Just a dumb question (in my mind), can I plug it in with an NEMA 14-60 plug (60amps breaker and wire from install) and get the full 48A for charging or hardwiring still a must?
That Cable is the exact same one as Tesla’s! I could tell when you opened up the unit and showed off the individual wires in the jacket mounted to the EVSE. I purchased a Tesla NACS Cable for a project and that has the exact same color pattern as the cable you featured.
One thing I'm curious about is whether this station will be able to work with the cybertruck's home powering system. Tesla says the cybertruck should be able to power your home if you have all of their home energy products....
Can you buy the nacs version and use an adapter, that way you just get rid of the adapter when you get a car with nacs? Which would be the correct adapter or is it not recommend?
6:206:5013:34 Emporia should fix the holster design in this upcoming version of the charger with the NACS connector so that the connector is facing down when it's in the holster. Customers shouldn't have to wait for another future version so that connector is facing down when it's in the holster.
It's a lot less expensive than the Tesla Universal unit, but I still think that's the best unit, especially if you have a Tesla. But even if not, the built in J1772 adapter is really nice. I'm curious how the cybertruck does its bidirectional charging. Looks like the AC/DC converter is reversible according to the Munro video. Being able to put AC back out is super convenient rather than having a big unit mounted to the wall. I wonder if the Tesla wall connector can support V2G with a firmware update. I assume it can measure power in both directions.
Florida Power and Light has a program where they will install a Wallbox charger at no charge that they will own. They will charge you flat rate of 31.00-35.00 a month for charging as much as you want during none peak hours with is pretty liberal. My question: if you get another wall charger that delivers 40 amp and can be programed to run only during non peak hours would there be any difference in rate? My FPL house meter has nothing special on it. Don't see how rate could be different if FPL doesn't have some type way to send info to Meter. The Plan is called FPL EVolution they are offering it in most of the State.
I would've loved an alternative brand of NACS home charger and always wondered when another company would release one after Tesla opened the floodgates to all. Unfortunately that took too long to happen and I couldn't hold off anymore. The Tesla Wall Connecter just works and the electrirican loves its internals. I just don't understand why Tesla didn't give the option not hardwire it.
Will the NACS charger be bidirectional (like for the Cybertruck)? We already have their energy monitoring and it helped us find a problem with our hot water heater. It also helped find some 'leaks' in things we didn't thing drew much power.
Hopefully the NACS version of the holster will have a push-in holster (like the Tesla wall connector). It doesn’t need to be on the side of the unit, but it would be part of the separate handle.
how did Tesla negotiate that their connector to the the national standard? Curious...BTW - it was your review of the Emporia charger that had us buy one! ;)
Tom, is it required to use a smart phone to operate the Emporia? Can the unit work like the old Siemens Versi-Charge, that is, just touching " buttons" on the face of the unit? I have a Apple ID15 but don't use it at home for routine charging.
I like how people say “only tesla” used the NACS standard. It’s like saying only apple uses lightning. They probably have 50% market share so it’s not only lol
The one thing I have difficulty wanting to do, is wanting to hardwire a charger to the electrical box. I don't feel comfortable getting it done because if it ever gets broken or fails, I'm going to have to call out an electrician for another installation. I'd rather just be able to buy a new charger box and plug it in. Or if I happen to move, then I can take it with me. Those are just my thoughts.
Tom I would love to see a review of the EMPORIA EV Charger Level 2 w/Load Management. Seems the ability to add a 48 amp EVSE to a home that is near the electric service limit without having to upgrade utility service would be a game changer. Is this Emporia Load Management system compliant with the requirements of the NEC, and is the entire system NRTL compliant?
I would like to see one as well. I just paid the extra $125 to get my Evse upgraded to load management. I already had the EVSE and Vue 2 before they made this available. I have my Evse hardwired and love to be able to have the full 48amp without needing to worry about things being tripped while charging
I talked to them about it back in December - yeah, it's software inside of the EVSE, but you need their home energy monitoring system to measure system capacity and to talk to the EVSE and tell it how fast to charge. They said since I already have the VUE energy monitor, all I would need is the upgraded EVSE.
I am having to purchase a new charger and am thinking of future-proofing my EV life by purchasing one of these instead of the J1772 and using the adapter that FORD has provided. Are there any negatives to using an adapter full time or any issues that I cannot see?
Just some feedback, but I think you should get a higher quality camera? Sometimes your videos get really blurry and hard to see details due to low resolution and bitrate. For example, the connector comparison shot at 14:50 has some really bad pixelation at 1080p. You should get a 4K camera since you zoom in on your shots, which should have enough extra resolution to handle digital zoom without getting blurry. Could be your process too if you're compressing the bitrate too much before RUclips upload. As a check, this 43 min video should be a 2.6 GB or larger file to meet YT's minimum 1080p bitrate recommendation; smaller than that means quality is compromised. Making some changes could really up your production quality.
Any word from Tesla when they are going to allow non-Teslas to charge at Superchargers with an adapter? We got less than a month until 2024. I have a Bolt EV and Chevy customer support agents told me they haven't been told anything about selling or giving out adapters for Chevy vehicles. I have seen two companies online having pre-sale on Tesla to CCS adapters.
What is the SAE number? J-3400 ? Will it allow DC from solar panels of 48 KW DC? Will pin 1 be positive and pin 2 be negative? Can this charge the Tesla model X? Or even model Y or any other regular Tesla. Can one rectify 50 Amp line and make 240 volt DC or 340 volt peak in order to make DC as input to 3400. I use an adapter to charge Tesla from J-1772 and it look similar. Very close. I still have many more questions including what vehicles have J-3400 now. Can it be converter back to J-1772 for older Electric Vehicles? The price is unreal being too. low.
The problem I have with this wonderful charger is it only works for the 2.0 I’m all 5.0 Internet, which means I cannot use the 48 A unless I bought an additional router to Marriott to drop it down. I think people need to know about that from the beginning.
These reviews would be great if they included information about how much power these things use when idle. I don't charge a lot, so most of the time I'm not plugged in. I use the mobile charger at home, and I have a switch before the NEMA 1450 plug so I can leave it plugged in without pulling power when not in use. A charger with an On/Off switch would be great!
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I don't trust Energy Star ratings, which I see as similar to the star rating for crash tests: too vague to the point of meaningless. I'd prefer to know how many Watts it draws. And ideally, I'd like to know that I can flip a switch on the device and know it pulls nothing. Edit: This is the primary reason I haven't considered getting a home charger, so if anyone from one of the manufacturers is reading this, they should take note. So far, I haven't found a reason to change from Tesla's mobile charger with a switch to anything else. Some might charge a bit faster, but if they're going to draw power when I'm not using them, the extra speed isn't worth it.
I’ve installed this brand of charger in my home with the j1772 and have a energy monitor connected in my panel. The unit will draw an insignificant amount of power during idle (
@@Ivan-kb2si 10w * 24 hours * 365 days = 87.6Kwh, or more than a full charge per year on an average EV. Seems like a lot to me. Edit: fixed decimal point.
@@therealctoo4183 10w * 24h = 0.24kWh / day 0.24kWh * 365 = 87.6kWh / year 87.6kWh / year * $0.12 / kWh= $10.56 / year You are correct, it does add up and while it may not be much as you said it adds up! $0.12 is MY average rate for power, this will be different depending on your rate.
There's no easy answer. It depends on if you have a non-tesla solar array and want to have a sophisticated energy management system, then the Emporia would be better. The Wall Connector is about 20% more so if budget is a priority that's another reason to get the Emporia. That said, the Wall COnnector is also a great unit - both are at the top of my recommend list.
Its a nice looking unit. But the charge cable side connections in the unit look like they were wired by a kid while the power input cable looks like it was wired by someone who was trained to do so. It must be deceiving, but the brown wire doesn't even look like its connected.
Only 2 signal wires in the cable? The tesla wall connector has 4. Im guessing tesla has a temperature sensor? Also your reviews check and test plug overheating like tesla does
Cost plays a factor. $400 for Emporia vs $600 for the UWC. I thought I would get a UWC, but when the Autel Maxicharger was $240 for Black Friday, they made my decision for me.
Good information, but maybe edit out the repeat/redundant topics. It gets a bit eye-rolling when you harp on the same issues at several stages in your review.
They need to have both connectors on it. Tesla customers won't buy this one and it's going to be a long time before all the CCS cars are gone. At the very least make the cables swappable.
The Emporia charger will only connect to wifi that is broadcast on 2.8G. If your system only broadcasts on 5G (Cox in my area) it won't connect. The solution is to get a range extender which will rebroadcast on 2.8G
This should not be reviewed and given exposure. Availaility is unknown. Actual configuration is unknown. It is vaporware. Perhaps it would be useful to contact the charger makers and ask if and when they will be producing an NACS (or universal) charger. That might make an interesting video.
Tom, another great video. P.S., I bet you noticed it appears some RUclipsrs and even some "traditional" news media seem to copycat your material, sometimes just a couple of days after you post. The good news: imitation is the ultimate compliment.
Oh, yeah, I've definitely noticed. Let them have their fun - I'll just keep doing my thing😁
Thank you for the great review and the acknowledgement, Tom. Your videos are always top notch in their depth and information. As you noted, the NACS will come with it a difference holster solution.
Hey guys. When will you have a Power Sharing version of you EVSE? Or should I dual charger?
So exciting to see NACS coming for home charging. Previously, only Tesla had anything. Glad to see others showing up now too. Thx for the video. I enjoyed watching.
love our emporia unit. outside install, rock solid.
We have the Emporia EVSE and their Vue plus solar. The ability to ramp the charge level based on surplus solar is awesome and works very well.
Your videos are always great Tom.
I did purchase an Emporia level two J1772 charger based on your recommendations and I am extremely happy with it.
I am now trying to find information on a reliable, solar company in South Florida so that I can combine that with my system to eliminate the cost of charging my vehicle.
For those who already have a J1772 EVSE and will use a NACS adapter, you should cover holsters that will work with the J1772/NACS combo.
Excellent review. Thank you!
Well done, once again! 👍🏽
HI, Tom Moloughney, Your videos are really great. I have been following you for a long time. Thank you for your explanation.
I got the Emporia Evse for my Bolt EV and I love it. Yes the holster they provided is crap. I bought a separate holster for it though and works great. I use the enphase holster and wrap the cord around the EVSE unit as it's perfectly designed to hold the cable. Emporia has great customer service as well and just added load management to my unit since I also have their Vue 2 as well.
I wish there was videos about that as well.
I wish all chargers designed the holster to hold the charging handle parallel to the wall rather than perpendicular to save space
Saw you with Marques Brownlee looks like you have a nice channel I had to join your channel
Great video as always. I've said before that the Tesla Universal Connector would be our next EVSE once our old JuiceBox goes bad, but this Emporia with NACS might be our next EVSE instead. It's a really great value compared with most others!
One thing I wish you were able to test is if that button actually does open the charge port on a Tesla because Lectron also offers an EVSE with NACS but they say the button only stops charging and does not open the charge port.
I purchased the J1772 version based on Tom's recommendation. It's been great, thank you. I also got a separate connector holster from Grizzl-E as they're not too far from me because I also hated the included holder.
A question, will Emporia owners be able to directly replace an existing J1772 cable with a NACS cable? I had an electrician hardwire my unit with a dedicated copper cable and a 60A breaker and the connector blocks for the vehicle cable seem pretty similar. This leads me to wonder if swapping between J1772 and NACS cables is possible.
17:24
I’ve bought and installed this charger in the j1772 version. One thing that is very important & overlooked by many ‘reviewers’ on RUclips is hardwiring. You CAN NOT run NM-B (romex) of the CORRECT size to supply 48A continuous because the lugs are sized too small.
I’ve reached out to Emporia, while I didn’t expect them to change their design based on my email, it appears their new charger has the same size lugs.
What gauge of romex did you have? The lugs are sized for 6 awg 90c rated thhn wire but since romex has a lower temp rating you would need 4 awg and that will not fit.
Hi Tom, Emporia works with Google. I can see my charger in Google home app. Yes I can only turn on or off the charger.
Thanks. I can confirm. Works with voice as well
There is option in app to connect to Alexa though I haven't tried that.
Loved the fact that you opened it up, and mentioned that getting an electrician is the way to go. That said you should mention that you unpower the unit before taking it apart, not everyone is as smart!
Thank you for the video! Do you know if this sports 277V?
For their V2X Bi-directional charger, they did fix their issues with the charger holster.
i have the J1172 version wonder if they will make the NACS version cable as a replacement. I have a J1172 car and a Tesla so I am just thinking out about it. yes the only thing is the thick cable. If they will switch their J1172 to the thinner cable I might as well go for that if they offer it as a part. if not well what I have will be fine.
Volex plc, an integrated manufacturer of critical power and data transmission products, is now a licensed partner of Tesla for the North American Charging Standard (NACS) EV Charging system.
Now that’s fantastic! I own 2 emporia’s. My next purchase (in a year or two) will be 2 Emporia load-sharing NACS. I’ll use an adaptor if I still have a J-plug car at that point.
Love my Emporia. When we get another EV we will buy a second EVSE with NACS. We have the energy monitoring also.
Great EVSE, kludgy holster. Thankfully there are inexpensive wallmount holsters available.
Adding an adapter which is one additional junction to those AC pins, effectively adds about 7 feet of cable resistance to the overall resistance normally experienced and designed in by the OEM of any charger. As a temporary solution, it’s fine, but using a quality OEM adapter is going to be required, which if you’re straddling plugs that cost must be considered. My OEM charger manufacture offers a conversion kit that includes the built-in holster that you have reviewed and if I ever use a J3400 it will be by simply converting the existing charger I have. Only having one EV simplifies my charging needs and therefore choices. Good review, great price and warranty. 42:56
It is nice the cable in the NACS version is thinner than the J1772 version, as that's pretty hefty and hard to wield.
Just a dumb question (in my mind), can I plug it in with an NEMA 14-60 plug (60amps breaker and wire from install) and get the full 48A for charging or hardwiring still a must?
Interesting - I wonder if they will also sell a unit that has an adapter, like the Tesla Universal Wall Connector?
It is simple enough to 3D print a NACS holster or J1772 holster, and mount the appropriate one next to the EVSE.
I bought an enphase holster that I attached next to the EVSE and wrap the cord around the unit.
Grizzl-E is not to far from my home and I obtained an J1772 holster from them.
That Cable is the exact same one as Tesla’s! I could tell when you opened up the unit and showed off the individual wires in the jacket mounted to the EVSE. I purchased a Tesla NACS Cable for a project and that has the exact same color pattern as the cable you featured.
What i find strange is the fact it uses the European colour standard, brown L1, blue neutral, green/yellow protective earth.
One thing I'm curious about is whether this station will be able to work with the cybertruck's home powering system. Tesla says the cybertruck should be able to power your home if you have all of their home energy products....
I would love this unit, with either plug. But Xcel can only do their program with Chargepoint's charger or the Juicebox.
Can you buy the nacs version and use an adapter, that way you just get rid of the adapter when you get a car with nacs? Which would be the correct adapter or is it not recommend?
6:20 6:50 13:34 Emporia should fix the holster design in this upcoming version of the charger with the NACS connector so that the connector is facing down when it's in the holster. Customers shouldn't have to wait for another future version so that connector is facing down when it's in the holster.
It's a lot less expensive than the Tesla Universal unit, but I still think that's the best unit, especially if you have a Tesla. But even if not, the built in J1772 adapter is really nice.
I'm curious how the cybertruck does its bidirectional charging. Looks like the AC/DC converter is reversible according to the Munro video. Being able to put AC back out is super convenient rather than having a big unit mounted to the wall.
I wonder if the Tesla wall connector can support V2G with a firmware update. I assume it can measure power in both directions.
Florida Power and Light has a program where they will install a Wallbox charger at no charge that they will own. They will charge you flat rate of 31.00-35.00 a month for charging as much as you want during none peak hours with is pretty liberal. My question: if you get another wall charger that delivers 40 amp and can be programed to run only during non peak hours would there be any difference in rate? My FPL house meter has nothing special on it. Don't see how rate could be different if FPL doesn't have some type way to send info to Meter. The Plan is called FPL EVolution they are offering it in most of the State.
I would've loved an alternative brand of NACS home charger and always wondered when another company would release one after Tesla opened the floodgates to all. Unfortunately that took too long to happen and I couldn't hold off anymore. The Tesla Wall Connecter just works and the electrirican loves its internals. I just don't understand why Tesla didn't give the option not hardwire it.
Will the NACS charger be bidirectional (like for the Cybertruck)? We already have their energy monitoring and it helped us find a problem with our hot water heater. It also helped find some 'leaks' in things we didn't thing drew much power.
No
how much does the adapter cost?
Hopefully the NACS version of the holster will have a push-in holster (like the Tesla wall connector). It doesn’t need to be on the side of the unit, but it would be part of the separate handle.
They will ship a small wall-mounted remote one so you can install it anywhere you'd like.
how did Tesla negotiate that their connector to the the national standard? Curious...BTW - it was your review of the Emporia charger that had us buy one! ;)
I believe it is Tesla cable. There was some announcement a few months ago about Volex and NACS cable production for non-Tesla use.
Tom, is it required to use a smart phone to operate the Emporia? Can the unit work like the old Siemens Versi-Charge, that is, just touching " buttons" on the face of the unit? I have a Apple ID15 but don't use it at home for routine charging.
There are no buttons on the face, but yes, you can use it fine without the app
I like how people say “only tesla” used the NACS standard. It’s like saying only apple uses lightning. They probably have 50% market share so it’s not only lol
The one thing I have difficulty wanting to do, is wanting to hardwire a charger to the electrical box. I don't feel comfortable getting it done because if it ever gets broken or fails, I'm going to have to call out an electrician for another installation. I'd rather just be able to buy a new charger box and plug it in. Or if I happen to move, then I can take it with me. Those are just my thoughts.
Tom I would love to see a review of the EMPORIA EV Charger Level 2 w/Load Management. Seems the ability to add a 48 amp EVSE to a home that is near the electric service limit without having to upgrade utility service would be a game changer. Is this Emporia Load Management system compliant with the requirements of the NEC, and is the entire system NRTL compliant?
I would like to see one as well. I just paid the extra $125 to get my Evse upgraded to load management. I already had the EVSE and Vue 2 before they made this available.
I have my Evse hardwired and love to be able to have the full 48amp without needing to worry about things being tripped while charging
So the same as the current Emopria but with a NACS connector. I have one. It is a very good charger for the price.
Is the load/ Energy management inside of the unit
I talked to them about it back in December - yeah, it's software inside of the EVSE, but you need their home energy monitoring system to measure system capacity and to talk to the EVSE and tell it how fast to charge. They said since I already have the VUE energy monitor, all I would need is the upgraded EVSE.
I am having to purchase a new charger and am thinking of future-proofing my EV life by purchasing one of these instead of the J1772 and using the adapter that FORD has provided. Are there any negatives to using an adapter full time or any issues that I cannot see?
I was hoping Emporia was going to offer a universal J1772/NACS connector similar to Tesla’s new Universal Level 2 connector.
Just some feedback, but I think you should get a higher quality camera? Sometimes your videos get really blurry and hard to see details due to low resolution and bitrate. For example, the connector comparison shot at 14:50 has some really bad pixelation at 1080p. You should get a 4K camera since you zoom in on your shots, which should have enough extra resolution to handle digital zoom without getting blurry. Could be your process too if you're compressing the bitrate too much before RUclips upload. As a check, this 43 min video should be a 2.6 GB or larger file to meet YT's minimum 1080p bitrate recommendation; smaller than that means quality is compromised. Making some changes could really up your production quality.
Any word from Tesla when they are going to allow non-Teslas to charge at Superchargers with an adapter? We got less than a month until 2024. I have a Bolt EV and Chevy customer support agents told me they haven't been told anything about selling or giving out adapters for Chevy vehicles. I have seen two companies online having pre-sale on Tesla to CCS adapters.
Most likely late spring/early summer
What is the SAE number? J-3400 ? Will it allow DC from solar panels of 48 KW DC? Will pin 1 be positive and pin 2 be negative? Can this charge the Tesla model X? Or even model Y or any other regular Tesla. Can one rectify 50 Amp line and make 240 volt DC or 340 volt peak in order to make DC as input to 3400. I use an adapter to charge Tesla from J-1772 and it look similar. Very close. I still have many more questions including what vehicles have J-3400 now. Can it be converter back to J-1772 for older Electric Vehicles? The price is unreal being too. low.
The problem I have with this wonderful charger is it only works for the 2.0 I’m all 5.0 Internet, which means I cannot use the 48 A unless I bought an additional router to Marriott to drop it down. I think people need to know about that from the beginning.
That connector holder is why I didn't buy an Emporia. I bought a Chargepoint J1772
These reviews would be great if they included information about how much power these things use when idle. I don't charge a lot, so most of the time I'm not plugged in.
I use the mobile charger at home, and I have a switch before the NEMA 1450 plug so I can leave it plugged in without pulling power when not in use. A charger with an On/Off switch would be great!
That's why I include if they are Energy Star rated, which takes into account the power draw when not in use.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I don't trust Energy Star ratings, which I see as similar to the star rating for crash tests: too vague to the point of meaningless. I'd prefer to know how many Watts it draws. And ideally, I'd like to know that I can flip a switch on the device and know it pulls nothing.
Edit: This is the primary reason I haven't considered getting a home charger, so if anyone from one of the manufacturers is reading this, they should take note. So far, I haven't found a reason to change from Tesla's mobile charger with a switch to anything else. Some might charge a bit faster, but if they're going to draw power when I'm not using them, the extra speed isn't worth it.
I’ve installed this brand of charger in my home with the j1772 and have a energy monitor connected in my panel. The unit will draw an insignificant amount of power during idle (
@@Ivan-kb2si 10w * 24 hours * 365 days = 87.6Kwh, or more than a full charge per year on an average EV. Seems like a lot to me. Edit: fixed decimal point.
@@therealctoo4183
10w * 24h = 0.24kWh / day
0.24kWh * 365 = 87.6kWh / year
87.6kWh / year * $0.12 / kWh= $10.56 / year
You are correct, it does add up and while it may not be much as you said it adds up!
$0.12 is MY average rate for power, this will be different depending on your rate.
You should add a Chargehanger.
I notice that although it has the nacs connector you didn’t try it on a tesla
I don't own one, but I did have my friend stop by quickly just to make sure and it worked - I didn't think that needed to be said.
Sorry I meant 2.4 GHz. The Emporia Charger won't operate at @5GHz. as relates to wifi
Is this Emporia EV charger better than Tesla Wall Connector that currently sell for $475? If you have a Tesla, which one of the two will you pick?
There's no easy answer. It depends on if you have a non-tesla solar array and want to have a sophisticated energy management system, then the Emporia would be better. The Wall Connector is about 20% more so if budget is a priority that's another reason to get the Emporia. That said, the Wall COnnector is also a great unit - both are at the top of my recommend list.
Its a nice looking unit. But the charge cable side connections in the unit look like they were wired by a kid while the power input cable looks like it was wired by someone who was trained to do so. It must be deceiving, but the brown wire doesn't even look like its connected.
I saw you with the CEO of Gravy. How do you feel about them in your home
Only 2 signal wires in the cable? The tesla wall connector has 4. Im guessing tesla has a temperature sensor? Also your reviews check and test plug overheating like tesla does
Thank you! Didn’t this used to be made in Taiwan? Maybe I’m misremembering.
Not that I am aware of
I am pretty sure I remember an interview with Emporia CEO and he mentioned overseas manufacturing to keep costs down. Could even be made in China.
This one or Tesla Universal? It's a big price difference.
Why not recommend the Tesla universal connector"?
I recommend both. They are both very good units.
Cost plays a factor. $400 for Emporia vs $600 for the UWC.
I thought I would get a UWC, but when the Autel Maxicharger was $240 for Black Friday, they made my decision for me.
Good information, but maybe edit out the repeat/redundant topics. It gets a bit eye-rolling when you harp on the same issues at several stages in your review.
Thanks for the feedback - I agree, and need to work on that 😁
It would be bice to aee the Grizzle Kodiak charger.
People just need to know that the Emporia only works on a 2.0 or 2.8. It doesn’t work on a 5.0 Internet router that’s important this more expense.
Change the name of the channel to State of Connecter Holsters.
dammit! i just bought an Emporia charger for my tesla!
Be sure to remind people, that these are not chargers! They are EVSEs. The AC "charger" is in the vehicle.
They need to have both connectors on it. Tesla customers won't buy this one and it's going to be a long time before all the CCS cars are gone. At the very least make the cables swappable.
The Emporia charger will only connect to wifi that is broadcast on 2.8G. If your system only broadcasts on 5G (Cox in my area) it won't connect. The solution is to get a range extender which will rebroadcast on 2.8G
2.4, and virtually every industrial device only connects to 2.4.
And the solution you wrote is kinda funny…
2.8G?
@@drobekus He’s a noob out of his depth…
At this stage of the game, who would continue offering J plug chargers anymore ?
This should not be reviewed and given exposure. Availaility is unknown. Actual configuration is unknown. It is vaporware. Perhaps it would be useful to contact the charger makers and ask if and when they will be producing an NACS (or universal) charger. That might make an interesting video.