Thomas Szasz is not an anti-psychiatrist, anymore than he is an anti-Capitalist. Thomas Szasz's central thesis pertains to the freedom to contract and the freedom from coercion, be it of the state or of other individuals. In a marketplace, be it of ideas, goods, or, services, the right to contract, freed of any coercive aspect(s), is what separates Liberty from tyranny.
@@hempenasphalt1587 Capitalism is just a legal right to own property, health and freedom from cohersion. But we then get democracy that decides how much a majority can take from people legally, and democracy choses how to manage that resource. This is often used towards people, cohersion by law. And also as criminal persecution.
The role of the State is to Promote the General Welfare of the People and their Posterity. The role of a Mental Health system is to give people aesthetic Talent Training - so they can develop a mental + emotional cathexis, which is mental health!
15:00 At the time of the Bolshevik revolution, 60% of Moscow's working population was homeless and living under their workbenches with their families. Truth. THIS is the glory of capitalism. At the same time 10% of the population of Moscow were fabulously wealthy and spent their lives attending parties and events.
@@atwaterpub Leon Trotsky was a man with credo as follows: socialism would work well if a socialist kills every tenth worker. The rest will function fast. This is what follows from his writings and implementation of them in practice of what we learned in Soviet schools as "Triumphal Procession of the Soviet Power". Stalin has much softened this idea: socialism would work if the government jails evey tenth worker. It worked, indeed. What is doubtful is that anyone would solenmly refer to memoirs of Adolf Hitler to describe sociali situation of Jews before 1933. But, one can describe Russian life referring to Trotsky...
Much like 1789 in France. Lafayette and the Girondists kept trying to write a U.S. like Constitution for France, but got framed for the murder of a Jacobin leader in 1793. They were all eliminated, except for Lafayette who was imprisoned for 6 years - Beethoven's Fidelio opera showed how his heroic wife got him released; yet there was not much Governing in France, until a dictator was installed and he drove for imperial war!
"capitalism" is different than "commercialism" ... With all due respect, I think that Dr. Szasz has the terms "confused" Most of the time when he says "capitalism" he seems to be talking about commercialism. Commercialism is exchange of goods and services for money. Capitalism is the creation of business entities that are given the role of a citizen and work to accumulate money and devalue the worker. (THAT is why capitalist societies have so many homeless and poor people and a small, fabulously wealthy oligarchy)
Once the Dollar was removed from its gold anchor and a Floating Rate of Exchange was introduced - speculation became more profitable than physical production. When the 1933-99 Glass- Steagall Act was signed away by Clinton {after his top sex scandal, and the Epstein networks didn't have to be used}, speculation took off. Now we have $2 thousand trillion of gambled-up claims in the globalist system - headed for a reverse leveraged blowout, unless leaders arrange a 1933-like Bankruptcy Reorganization!
@@risingsun3089 The goal of profit based medicine is extortion. Most American hospitals routinely charge TEN TIMES the fee for patients that do not have medical insurance. A heartless scam that typifies the heartless extortion that we call "America." Fifty percent of all the bankruptcies in USA America are due to medical bills. The American Medical profession is really just another criminal enterprise.
@@atwaterpub Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. America is vitally corrupt. It's upsetting how people close their eyes, while, the damage and lucrative effects are generational.
Of course he’s a fucking libertarian. “The capitalist system worked for me therefore it’s perfect. Social services are the root of the problem “ He’s got good points about coercion and overuse of diagnosis. I’m sure there’s better philosophers on the subject.
Please where are these better philosophers? I would like to know. As a psychiatric survivor or whatever to call it, I would like to see others who deal with these issues. Szasz seems very on point.
Thank you for recording and making it available to public.
Thomas Szasz is not an anti-psychiatrist, anymore than he is an anti-Capitalist. Thomas Szasz's central thesis pertains to the freedom to contract and the freedom from coercion, be it of the state or of other individuals. In a marketplace, be it of ideas, goods, or, services, the right to contract, freed of any coercive aspect(s), is what separates Liberty from tyranny.
I am a libertarian and an anti-capitalist and anti-psychiatry. If that is possible. And I think Szasz was heroic.
@@citizensofa3401 what is your alternative to capitalism? And what do you understand by capitalism?
@@hempenasphalt1587 Capitalism is just a legal right to own property, health and freedom from cohersion. But we then get democracy that decides how much a majority can take from people legally, and democracy choses how to manage that resource. This is often used towards people, cohersion by law. And also as criminal persecution.
'To be free of Psychiatry's fraud and force!' - Thomas Szasz
It depends how you define psychiatrist
The role of the State is to Promote the General Welfare of the People and their Posterity. The role of a Mental Health system is to give people aesthetic Talent Training - so they can develop a mental + emotional cathexis, which is mental health!
he wouldn't cough like that in 2021, which makes me even more interested in hearing his thoughts.
15:00 At the time of the Bolshevik revolution, 60% of Moscow's working population was homeless and living under their workbenches with their families. Truth. THIS is the glory of capitalism. At the same time 10% of the population of Moscow were fabulously wealthy and spent their lives attending parties and events.
Sources?
@@risingsun3089 This was from the writings of Leon Trotsky on the Russian Revolution
@@atwaterpub thank you
@@atwaterpub Leon Trotsky was a man with credo as follows: socialism would work well if a socialist kills every tenth worker. The rest will function
fast. This is what follows from his writings and implementation of them in practice of what we learned in Soviet schools as "Triumphal Procession of the Soviet Power". Stalin has much softened this idea: socialism would work if the government jails evey tenth worker. It worked, indeed. What is doubtful is that anyone would solenmly refer to memoirs of Adolf Hitler to describe sociali situation of Jews before 1933. But, one can describe Russian life referring to Trotsky...
Much like 1789 in France. Lafayette and the Girondists kept trying to write a U.S. like Constitution for France, but got framed for the murder of a Jacobin leader in 1793. They were all eliminated, except for Lafayette who was imprisoned for 6 years - Beethoven's Fidelio opera showed how his heroic wife got him released; yet there was not much Governing in France, until a dictator was installed and he drove for imperial war!
Today, there are 90,000 homeless people living and dying on the streets of Los Angeles. FACT
I can agree with that. It's quite sad. They really need to say "fuck the system" and go form a homestead community in a dense forest.
They prefer drugs to their own security.
The COMPULSION to re-hurt to " get-even."
Magna Carta did not try to restrict the power of corporations over the government, quite the opposite, it gave more rights to the Barons of England.
Yes, the Barons' Rules Based Order, which was trumped here after 1788!
This was Thomas Szasz in Britain?
YES. SZASZ traveled worldwide....
From what I understand it is his last public appearance before he passed away.
"capitalism" is different than "commercialism" ... With all due respect, I think that Dr. Szasz has the terms "confused" Most of the time when he says "capitalism" he seems to be talking about commercialism. Commercialism is exchange of goods and services for money. Capitalism is the creation of business entities that are given the role of a citizen and work to accumulate money and devalue the worker. (THAT is why capitalist societies have so many homeless and poor people and a small, fabulously wealthy oligarchy)
Okay, Mr. Genius. I believe you.
You have your terms confused, commie.
Dr. Szasz has it right
Interesting explanation
Due to one's OWN deep hurt.
what about the rest of us who don't want state protection.i guess all we wan't for the state to withdraw from our lives
The state of the role.
Love how that sign language lady intimates the word "crazy."
Empowerment
Freedom has nothing necessarily to do with capitalism.
Freedom via the Preamble of the Constitution, etc.!
capitalism is the opposite of freedom
Pharmocracy...Thomas Szasz.
And wasteland within
"Capitalism is anti human" - Zobo the Clown
The world is a mental asylum.
Once the Dollar was removed from its gold anchor and a Floating Rate of Exchange was introduced - speculation became more profitable than physical production. When the 1933-99 Glass- Steagall Act was signed away by Clinton {after his top sex scandal, and the Epstein networks didn't have to be used}, speculation took off. Now we have $2 thousand trillion of gambled-up claims in the globalist system - headed for a reverse leveraged blowout, unless leaders arrange a 1933-like Bankruptcy Reorganization!
Presently, 1/6 of the entire population of the USA is taking Doctor prescribed psychoactive medicine.
Making us dependent, one pill at a time.
@@risingsun3089 The goal of profit based medicine is extortion. Most American hospitals routinely charge TEN TIMES the fee for patients that do not have medical insurance. A heartless scam that typifies the heartless extortion that we call "America." Fifty percent of all the bankruptcies in USA America are due to medical bills. The American Medical profession is really just another criminal enterprise.
@@atwaterpub Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. America is vitally corrupt. It's upsetting how people close their eyes, while, the damage and lucrative effects are generational.
Orwellian!@@risingsun3089
Of course he’s a fucking libertarian. “The capitalist system worked for me therefore it’s perfect. Social services are the root of the problem “
He’s got good points about coercion and overuse of diagnosis. I’m sure there’s better philosophers on the subject.
Please where are these better philosophers? I would like to know. As a psychiatric survivor or whatever to call it, I would like to see others who deal with these issues. Szasz seems very on point.
Peter Breggin, Robert D. Whitaker.
@@hempenasphalt1587 try james davies