That Voodoo difference really is incredible! Even 25 years later I still think it is amazing. Descent II goes from like 12 fps at 640x480 in software to silky 60fps when using the Voodoo. Definitely one of my favorite cards. Loved this video man!
haha this is a true sci-fi lover. I have weird memories like that, one that comes to mind is playing DK Country in the SNES and listening to Information Society on the stereo. I can never dissociate these two things.
@@SUCRA strange how memory works, I still have one of playing fallout tactics and Angel episode 2 season 2 on the TV I remember it down to the episode. Was still in college back then :)
Nice vidéo! I had the same configuration back in the days! I worked the whole summer to replace my old 486 and to buy a 166mmx together with a voodoo1. Most of my friends still had p100 or p133 with a standard 1mb video card. They couldn't believe their eyes when they saw the voodoo difference. Later I pushed it to 225mhz. Today the CPU is still working great (but I don't overclock it anymore) but the voodoo1 died a long time ago...thank you for refreshing my memories!
Merci Boisleux! Oh, you were a lucky, or hard working fellow! At the time I had an AMD k5 and only got a voodoo 2 well after this. But it was such great fun playing games with that. When I first saw tomb raider, that's what did me in. Awesome! Thanks for your comment and for sharing your story!
Such an awesome video and build, my friend! I really am quite impressed by the jump that the Voodoo 1 represented on the Pentium 166MMX. It’s so interesting to see the “Voodoo Difference” in action, and it’s just so unbelievably clear that 3D acceleration-3dfx or otherwise-is very nice to have on Socket 7. It’s pretty wild just how much color was lost in Half-Life, but the game really looked and played significantly better. Unreal and 3dfx is a classic combo, and it really shows just how much the leap to a Voodoo meant. I also have to say that I really appreciated seeing this series after the X5-160. It’s amazing to me just how much of a jump happened between the 486 era and the P55C era; later Socket 7 CPUs are quite impressive, and I can’t imagine seeing such a big jump today. It’s incredible to think just how far we came! Thanks again for all your hard work, my friend. This was such an awesome video!
Thanks, Will! It's always a pleasure being able to put out videos like this one that our retro games and hardware community can enjoy and discuss. I loved reliving the voodoo difference on this one, a CPU that can actually put out frames fast enough so that many cool games can be enjoyed in 3d. I'm sure there are many other games that could be displayed, these were probably the ones that were most notible from the times this hardware was introduced to me in the late 1990s. Thanks for supporting me and this channel, as always.
@@SUCRA It really is, my friend! I was quite impressed and the 166MMX is just such a cool CPU. I remember when it came out and reading in PCMag that it was roughly equal to a Pentium 200. That absolutely blew my mind at the time--something was able to touch the top-tier P54CS, but with a 17% clock-speed differential. Wild stuff, honestly, and it's still pretty mind-blowing! I definitely agree that these were the notable ones, and, honestly, they were all 3dfx Glide-based classics, so I'm very much here for it! Thank you for all that you do man, and it's been an absolute pleasure! I can't wait to see what's next!
Nice pairing of CPU and 3dfx card 👍 I remember playing those games on a Voodoo 2, but I had a 233MMX. Pentium 2 was out but was so expensive, so 166MMX and Voodoo 1 makes perfect sense to me
V2's need such a faster machine to even begin to stretch their legs. I recently built a K6-III+ 500Mhz machine and put V2 SLI inside. The performance was still poor, due to the SS7 platform, so eventually I just ran the machine with a single V2 card. Even then, I saw far higher framerates using a VooDoo 2 card in a Pentium 3 550 system. Still, any VooDoo in a pentium 1 machine, even a P133, is a huge improvement over software rendering.
Heck yeah it is! Growing up, my family had a bunch of sockets 7 systems, with many of them 133 MHz or 166 MHz range. I got a bunch of second hand Voodoo2 cards, and they breathed new life into my family's aging PCs and really transformed our LAN multiplayer experience! In 2001, my family started the process of migrating to Socket A Athlon systems. The Athlons in turn, breathed new life into into my Voodoo2 cards! Games like Unreal Tournament and Jedi Outcast (on Wicked GL drivers) ran FANTASTIC!
I SUCRA, it's always a pleasure to see a video with Voodoo Graphics and old Pentium! I probably agree that would have been more appropriate focus on games from 1996/97, like TR/TR2, Q/Q2, Screamer 2/Rally, NFS2, Carmageddon, AoE, GTA etc. to showcase the potential of the little voodoo, but hey, your video, your games! 😁
Another enjoyable video :) When I was researching the history of 3D gaming, I came across a claim that said a 90MHz Pentium with a 3D card could outperform a 166MHz Pentium in software mode. Although this sounds obvious today, this was inconceivable at the time. These cards made such a huge difference.
That's so interesting, there are similar claims in the automotive world, as: a turbo charged 1 litter engine can outperform a naturally aspirated 2 litter engine. I guess that helps people understand, anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the support.
Yeah, I do think it's worth it. Not a 486 like I did for experimenting in other videos, but any pentium can benefit well from a 3d card. Have a great week! 👍
I was fortunate enough that I could install one of these in my Pentium Pro 200 alongside a Rendition Verite v1000 that I purchased before... If you check the release dates of this card and CPUs, when VooDoo1 launched there was the Pentium 200 and the Pentium Pro 200, no such thing as the 300MHz Pentium II even less a 400MHz K6. A 166MHz Pentium MMX was a perfect target system for this card faster systems where crazy expensive in 97... today we are spoiled by choice! Thanks for your video, it is always nice to remember the early days of 3d acceleration!
My pleasure! The Verite is an interesting card, I believe they are somewhat rare today. I went for the combo that seemed to make sense for the time period. Thanks for your comment!
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I like it too, I think they are right for each other. Right now I guess the only thing I would change here is the sound card, maybe get something with EAX.
Hey, how's it going? Sorry but I don't remember what version of windows I was using, it's been more than a year since I've done this video. Probably Windows 98 se.
Yeah man, we definitely played tons of games in software mode. But we played loads more in 3d accelerated mode. Remember we had lan parties to play Star Wars Battlefront 2? We should do that again! Haha 👍
For me Pentium MMX 166 and AMD K6 166 were to slow with 3DFX Voodoo, with AMD K6-2 400 Voodoo works better, especially in Quake II. Great work as always.
Well the voodoo 1 is from 1996 and the mmx from 1997, as for time period they seem to be a good combo. But sure, a more powerful processor is, more powerful! Haha👍 thanks for watching!
Hey, thank you! The motherboard has no identification. I hope to replace it soon, I can then get better pictures, but you'll have to go with the design, because really there isn't anything written on it besides Acer, as far as I remember.
A lot. Voodoo 2 would allow higher resolutions, as well as better framerates in most games, even with a 166 MMX. 233 MMX would work better with the V2 though.
The washed out colour problem was annoying. Other cards like the Mystique and the PowerVR didn't suffer from that problem, but the VooDoo was faster and had more features. The more expensive VooDoo's, like the Orchid Righteous, had better colour vibrancy than cheaper models like the Maxi Gamer, and if you had a good monitor you could offset the washed out look through screen settings. But the 3Dfx really was essential back in 1996/7 to get the best experience from PC gaming. I had a Pentium 200 (non-mmx) and it was a decent enough match for a VooDoo card. Later I got a Pentium 2 266MMX and the 3Dfx 4MB really shone with that system - Carmageddon and Quake II were silky smooth with the extra CPU horsepower feeding the GPU more frames to render. Great times.
Thanks for sharing your story. Indeed, good times, I still think of those times dearly and this era of gaming is very close to my heart. Have a great day!
@@SUCRA Wanna know why I had a Pentium 200 Vanilla back in 1997? I'll tell you. It was December 1996 and I was 15 years old. I had a 486-DX33 and it sucked. My friend had a Pentium 100 and it was amazing. So I said to my Dad "DAD! Give me my savings you put away for me till I am 18, I need a computer NOW!". He gave it to me. £1500 exactly. So I went to a computer shop near me and told them I wanted an Intel Pentium 133, with 32MB RAM and Windows 95, 17" monitor. They said okay, and took £100 deposit from me. Two weeks later, January 3rd, they called me and said it was ready. So my Dad drove us down to pick it up. It was icy I nearly slipped carrying my monitor the car. When I got home, I turned on the computer and it said in post "AMD PR133 CPU @ 100MHZ". I thought .... wait thats not right. 100Mhz? I ordered and paid for 133Mhz! So I called the shop. They said "Oh, we did you a favour. The AMD PR133 is like an intel, only FASTER, so much faster it beats an Intel P133 even though it only runs at 100Mhz! I was a kid, I believed him. I tried some games, Terror from the Deep, Doom, Firefight, Command and Conquer - they all worked amazing compared to my 486. Then I tried Quake - pretty much the entire reason I'd spent £1500 was to play Quake. It ran terrible. My friends Petnium 100 was WAY faster, even my other friends Pentium 75 was faster than mine. I did some digging in magazines and found out I'd been ripped off. The PR133 cost far less than a true Intel P133, and was much slower in floating point (Quake). I called the shop but they simply talked over me - I was just a kid after all. I told my Dad, he said "Lesson learned! It's your fault! You shouldve saved your money!". So I was sad. Very sad. For about 8 months I had to struggle at LANs with a shitty framerate playing deathmatch. That year, in October, I went back to Falcom Computers. My friend Antony asked the guy for an 8MB EDO kit for his 486 (I'd given him my old PC), and when the guy went to the other side of the shop, I leaned over the counter and stole a brand new Pentium 200 CPU from the shelf, put it in my pocket. We left, I installed the P200 myself, and Quake more than doubled in performance. Timerefresh went from 8.1fps up to 20fps! The CPU was worth exactly £200, that was £1 per megahertz, back in 1997. And finally I'd taken my revenge.
Had a k6 and a pci geforce 4 mx 440 124mbs ram. At 800x600 in half life the sis 530 trash was not only a slideshow, but it also artifacted crazily from lack of memory. Overclocking the pci port was hugely important because that geforce 2 basically was kept on life support far too long. AVP2 annihilated my first pc. Funny enough decades now into the future zen 3 isnt enough IPC to overcome the lighting calculation nonsense in that game with my mod. Needs a programmers touch.
@@SUCRA Dg voodoo did it. Raytracing adds draw call overhead. Its ordinarily irrelevant until you get into single threaded apps already running at the limit so to speak.
The original Voodoo was great, but the Voodoo 2 was far faster, as was the Banshee. I played a lot of these games on a Banshee back in 98-99, paired with a 233 MMX. It could handle most titles at 800x600 and 1024x768.
Yo need to change you 2D card for Matrox Mystique 220 or S3Virge 4mb, Trident its a very bad card! Thanks for the memories, cheers from Argentina for a 3dfx fan!
The mystique is an interesting card. S3 does alright in 2d I believe. But of course Matrox is well known for their video quality. Thanks for stopping by, Carlos! Have a good one! 👍
That Voodoo difference really is incredible! Even 25 years later I still think it is amazing. Descent II goes from like 12 fps at 640x480 in software to silky 60fps when using the Voodoo. Definitely one of my favorite cards. Loved this video man!
This card is great! Such a hallmark for 3dfx and pc gaming as well. Next week I got some Descent! Haha
Nice one Sucra, whatever gets the fun done!
Thanks, Ted! Oh, old PCs are always fun!
I remember playing Dark Forces 2 back when I was in school, had Star Trek playing in the background on our local TV station so was odd. Man memories.
haha this is a true sci-fi lover. I have weird memories like that, one that comes to mind is playing DK Country in the SNES and listening to Information Society on the stereo. I can never dissociate these two things.
@@SUCRA strange how memory works, I still have one of playing fallout tactics and Angel episode 2 season 2 on the TV I remember it down to the episode. Was still in college back then :)
Nice vidéo! I had the same configuration back in the days! I worked the whole summer to replace my old 486 and to buy a 166mmx together with a voodoo1. Most of my friends still had p100 or p133 with a standard 1mb video card. They couldn't believe their eyes when they saw the voodoo difference.
Later I pushed it to 225mhz. Today the CPU is still working great (but I don't overclock it anymore) but the voodoo1 died a long time ago...thank you for refreshing my memories!
Merci Boisleux! Oh, you were a lucky, or hard working fellow! At the time I had an AMD k5 and only got a voodoo 2 well after this. But it was such great fun playing games with that. When I first saw tomb raider, that's what did me in. Awesome! Thanks for your comment and for sharing your story!
Such an awesome video and build, my friend! I really am quite impressed by the jump that the Voodoo 1 represented on the Pentium 166MMX. It’s so interesting to see the “Voodoo Difference” in action, and it’s just so unbelievably clear that 3D acceleration-3dfx or otherwise-is very nice to have on Socket 7. It’s pretty wild just how much color was lost in Half-Life, but the game really looked and played significantly better. Unreal and 3dfx is a classic combo, and it really shows just how much the leap to a Voodoo meant. I also have to say that I really appreciated seeing this series after the X5-160. It’s amazing to me just how much of a jump happened between the 486 era and the P55C era; later Socket 7 CPUs are quite impressive, and I can’t imagine seeing such a big jump today. It’s incredible to think just how far we came! Thanks again for all your hard work, my friend. This was such an awesome video!
Thanks, Will! It's always a pleasure being able to put out videos like this one that our retro games and hardware community can enjoy and discuss. I loved reliving the voodoo difference on this one, a CPU that can actually put out frames fast enough so that many cool games can be enjoyed in 3d. I'm sure there are many other games that could be displayed, these were probably the ones that were most notible from the times this hardware was introduced to me in the late 1990s. Thanks for supporting me and this channel, as always.
@@SUCRA It really is, my friend! I was quite impressed and the 166MMX is just such a cool CPU. I remember when it came out and reading in PCMag that it was roughly equal to a Pentium 200. That absolutely blew my mind at the time--something was able to touch the top-tier P54CS, but with a 17% clock-speed differential. Wild stuff, honestly, and it's still pretty mind-blowing! I definitely agree that these were the notable ones, and, honestly, they were all 3dfx Glide-based classics, so I'm very much here for it! Thank you for all that you do man, and it's been an absolute pleasure! I can't wait to see what's next!
Nice pairing of CPU and 3dfx card 👍
I remember playing those games on a Voodoo 2, but I had a 233MMX. Pentium 2 was out but was so expensive, so 166MMX and Voodoo 1 makes perfect sense to me
Thanks, I also think it makes sense for the timeframe in which they were released. I love bringing those memories back! Thanks for watching.
V2's need such a faster machine to even begin to stretch their legs. I recently built a K6-III+ 500Mhz machine and put V2 SLI inside. The performance was still poor, due to the SS7 platform, so eventually I just ran the machine with a single V2 card. Even then, I saw far higher framerates using a VooDoo 2 card in a Pentium 3 550 system.
Still, any VooDoo in a pentium 1 machine, even a P133, is a huge improvement over software rendering.
Heck yeah it is! Growing up, my family had a bunch of sockets 7 systems, with many of them 133 MHz or 166 MHz range. I got a bunch of second hand Voodoo2 cards, and they breathed new life into my family's aging PCs and really transformed our LAN multiplayer experience! In 2001, my family started the process of migrating to Socket A Athlon systems. The Athlons in turn, breathed new life into into my Voodoo2 cards! Games like Unreal Tournament and Jedi Outcast (on Wicked GL drivers) ran FANTASTIC!
I SUCRA, it's always a pleasure to see a video with Voodoo Graphics and old Pentium!
I probably agree that would have been more appropriate focus on games from 1996/97, like TR/TR2, Q/Q2, Screamer 2/Rally, NFS2, Carmageddon, AoE, GTA etc. to showcase the potential of the little voodoo, but hey, your video, your games! 😁
You are probably right, I'm glad you enjoyed it anyway! Thanks for the support.
Age of Empires did not have a hardware API renderer, nor did allot of strategy games at the time.
Another enjoyable video :)
When I was researching the history of 3D gaming, I came across a claim that said a 90MHz Pentium with a 3D card could outperform a 166MHz Pentium in software mode. Although this sounds obvious today, this was inconceivable at the time. These cards made such a huge difference.
That's so interesting, there are similar claims in the automotive world, as: a turbo charged 1 litter engine can outperform a naturally aspirated 2 litter engine. I guess that helps people understand, anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the support.
see, I never knew how big the diferences would be growin up, thanks to you I always had access to the best quality shit... lol
At this time in history you played PlayStation. Only a few years after that you used a pc for gaming.
I always wondered if upgrading my p133 with a voodoo was worth it back in the 90s and it looks like it might have given that PC some extra life
Yeah, I do think it's worth it. Not a 486 like I did for experimenting in other videos, but any pentium can benefit well from a 3d card. Have a great week! 👍
Como sempre, excelente vídeo meu amigo! Parabéns! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Obrigado, Everton! Forte abraço.
I was fortunate enough that I could install one of these in my Pentium Pro 200 alongside a Rendition Verite v1000 that I purchased before... If you check the release dates of this card and CPUs, when VooDoo1 launched there was the Pentium 200 and the Pentium Pro 200, no such thing as the 300MHz Pentium II even less a 400MHz K6.
A 166MHz Pentium MMX was a perfect target system for this card faster systems where crazy expensive in 97... today we are spoiled by choice!
Thanks for your video, it is always nice to remember the early days of 3d acceleration!
My pleasure! The Verite is an interesting card, I believe they are somewhat rare today. I went for the combo that seemed to make sense for the time period. Thanks for your comment!
Ever tryed a Voodoo Rush card ? i had the 6mb Helios 3d version back in 1999 with a p200
Oh man, that's awesome! Never tried a Rush or a Banshee. If I can get my hands on one I'll definitely do something with it.
Thanks for watching!
@@SUCRA Banshee was far better than the Rush. Basically the predecessor to the Voodoo 3.
Solid video. I agree with comments below: P166MMX is maybe a bit too short :)
Thanks! I'm glad you like it! 👍
Nice! For some reason I really like the 166 + Voodoo 1 combo hmm...
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I like it too, I think they are right for each other. Right now I guess the only thing I would change here is the sound card, maybe get something with EAX.
Are you using Windows 98? whith win95osr2.1 i having problem with display driver
Hey, how's it going? Sorry but I don't remember what version of windows I was using, it's been more than a year since I've done this video. Probably Windows 98 se.
So many old games, I remember playing some of then in software Mode, like half life
Yeah man, we definitely played tons of games in software mode. But we played loads more in 3d accelerated mode. Remember we had lan parties to play Star Wars Battlefront 2? We should do that again! Haha 👍
For me Pentium MMX 166 and AMD K6 166 were to slow with 3DFX Voodoo, with AMD K6-2 400 Voodoo works better, especially in Quake II. Great work as always.
Well the voodoo 1 is from 1996 and the mmx from 1997, as for time period they seem to be a good combo. But sure, a more powerful processor is, more powerful! Haha👍 thanks for watching!
Hello, nice videos man, I have a question for you, What Pcchips Acer motherboar is that exatly is a M575?
Hey, thank you! The motherboard has no identification. I hope to replace it soon, I can then get better pictures, but you'll have to go with the design, because really there isn't anything written on it besides Acer, as far as I remember.
Except for the coin cell, maybe?
The real question is: How much Pentium MMX system can gain from Voodoo to Voodoo 2 upregade?
This is a good question, that I can answer in a future video! I'll put that in the list of video ideas.
A lot. Voodoo 2 would allow higher resolutions, as well as better framerates in most games, even with a 166 MMX. 233 MMX would work better with the V2 though.
Retrobrite this beast!
I don't know, that kind of looked cool at golden hour haha.
20-30fps at 640 by 480 was a big deal in the 90s
For sure. 640x480 was considered high res. And with texture filtering, looked amazing compared to software rendering.
The washed out colour problem was annoying. Other cards like the Mystique and the PowerVR didn't suffer from that problem, but the VooDoo was faster and had more features. The more expensive VooDoo's, like the Orchid Righteous, had better colour vibrancy than cheaper models like the Maxi Gamer, and if you had a good monitor you could offset the washed out look through screen settings. But the 3Dfx really was essential back in 1996/7 to get the best experience from PC gaming.
I had a Pentium 200 (non-mmx) and it was a decent enough match for a VooDoo card. Later I got a Pentium 2 266MMX and the 3Dfx 4MB really shone with that system - Carmageddon and Quake II were silky smooth with the extra CPU horsepower feeding the GPU more frames to render.
Great times.
Thanks for sharing your story. Indeed, good times, I still think of those times dearly and this era of gaming is very close to my heart.
Have a great day!
@@SUCRA Wanna know why I had a Pentium 200 Vanilla back in 1997? I'll tell you.
It was December 1996 and I was 15 years old. I had a 486-DX33 and it sucked. My friend had a Pentium 100 and it was amazing. So I said to my Dad "DAD! Give me my savings you put away for me till I am 18, I need a computer NOW!". He gave it to me. £1500 exactly. So I went to a computer shop near me and told them I wanted an Intel Pentium 133, with 32MB RAM and Windows 95, 17" monitor. They said okay, and took £100 deposit from me.
Two weeks later, January 3rd, they called me and said it was ready. So my Dad drove us down to pick it up. It was icy I nearly slipped carrying my monitor the car. When I got home, I turned on the computer and it said in post "AMD PR133 CPU @ 100MHZ". I thought .... wait thats not right. 100Mhz? I ordered and paid for 133Mhz! So I called the shop. They said "Oh, we did you a favour. The AMD PR133 is like an intel, only FASTER, so much faster it beats an Intel P133 even though it only runs at 100Mhz! I was a kid, I believed him. I tried some games, Terror from the Deep, Doom, Firefight, Command and Conquer - they all worked amazing compared to my 486.
Then I tried Quake - pretty much the entire reason I'd spent £1500 was to play Quake. It ran terrible. My friends Petnium 100 was WAY faster, even my other friends Pentium 75 was faster than mine. I did some digging in magazines and found out I'd been ripped off. The PR133 cost far less than a true Intel P133, and was much slower in floating point (Quake). I called the shop but they simply talked over me - I was just a kid after all. I told my Dad, he said "Lesson learned! It's your fault! You shouldve saved your money!". So I was sad. Very sad. For about 8 months I had to struggle at LANs with a shitty framerate playing deathmatch.
That year, in October, I went back to Falcom Computers. My friend Antony asked the guy for an 8MB EDO kit for his 486 (I'd given him my old PC), and when the guy went to the other side of the shop, I leaned over the counter and stole a brand new Pentium 200 CPU from the shelf, put it in my pocket. We left, I installed the P200 myself, and Quake more than doubled in performance. Timerefresh went from 8.1fps up to 20fps! The CPU was worth exactly £200, that was £1 per megahertz, back in 1997. And finally I'd taken my revenge.
LGR would like to know your location.
Highly doubtful! Hah 🙏👍
@@SUCRA You're underrated!
@@Russell970 thanks for the support, you're a good friend! 👍
Yes
Yes, out of all the things. 😂
Excellent.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Have a great Sunday!
Had a k6 and a pci geforce 4 mx 440 124mbs ram. At 800x600 in half life the sis 530 trash was not only a slideshow, but it also artifacted crazily from lack of memory. Overclocking the pci port was hugely important because that geforce 2 basically was kept on life support far too long. AVP2 annihilated my first pc.
Funny enough decades now into the future zen 3 isnt enough IPC to overcome the lighting calculation nonsense in that game with my mod. Needs a programmers touch.
Oh, zen 3 is not enough? Now I can say, what have you done?!
@@SUCRA
Dg voodoo did it. Raytracing adds draw call overhead. Its ordinarily irrelevant until you get into single threaded apps already running at the limit so to speak.
Needs more FSR.
Voodoo fsr, is ultimate fsr.
@@SUCRA
5000p from the future using alien compression algorithms that break entropy.
The original Voodoo was great, but the Voodoo 2 was far faster, as was the Banshee. I played a lot of these games on a Banshee back in 98-99, paired with a 233 MMX. It could handle most titles at 800x600 and 1024x768.
Nice memories and I couldn't agree more. Thanks for sharing, I hope you have a wonderful 2022.
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Nasty 20-30fps in most games.
Yah, a thing of the past, we had nowhere to run.
Yo need to change you 2D card for Matrox Mystique 220 or S3Virge 4mb, Trident its a very bad card! Thanks for the memories, cheers from Argentina for a 3dfx fan!
The mystique is an interesting card. S3 does alright in 2d I believe. But of course Matrox is well known for their video quality. Thanks for stopping by, Carlos! Have a good one! 👍
First (self)build: AMD K6* 200Mhz on an IWILL P55XB2 v.1.21 AT motherboard, autumn 1997 in Denmark.
*Was the best Bang for Buck here. Sry' INTEL™ ;-)
Same here, Intel was expensive, I had a k5 and skipped the k6 and mmx era all together.
@@SUCRA K5? Oh dear ;-)
@@dallesamllhals9161 yeah, served me very well! I only upgraded to a pentium 3 600.