Great vid as usual mate. Grandparents taught us that trick & have been using it for years. It creates airflow, prevent condensation & control heat inside the tent when using a stove/heater. Cowabunga.!
You should show this new tarp in a super shelter configuration. With the tarp overlap, you've solved the heat escaping problem. Maybe with a dyema tarp, painters drop cloth, or a shower curtain. Kudos! Always have loved your content.
That's a good idea, it reminds me from my Army days during bivouac, but our shelter haves only had 6 inches of over lap. Keep up the good work and God bless
Awesome video Dave. I'm a fan of old school gear as well, it's something that brings back that frontier/civil war/mountain man feeling. I just absolutely love traditional gear!!!
Great idea. Also make guy line points on the other side. Makes one tarp even more versatile and gives the possibility to make walls in the configuration you have devised. Which gives the tent more height in the middle and useful living space on the sides. However, the opening at the front and back remains.... I use the Bushcraft Spain tarp. Based on Nesmuk but adapted to our body length. I compensate for the weight by not using a backpack. I fold the tarp into a backpack on a frame. I usually set up the tarp as a low A-frame with one side open. Big enough for 1 person. Use a German army tarp (Zeldbahn) to close one side if necessary. A fire for the other side. Or burn 4 swiss candles in a bush box with a rock inside as heating at night. With a wool blanket, of course. Incl. cooking gear and water filtering system (brown mailbag), rubber mat, spare clothing etc. but exl. food and water (in canteen and haversack) about 15 kg. Bom prove!
Great job guys. I love it. It’s very logical and one of my favs. I have a custom oilcloth canvas 8x8 that has 21 tie out loops. But now you have me wanting to add more loops to the other side after ordering one of these and matching up some added loops on a couple sides to line up perfectly with one of these to add some super flexible larger shelter options. Really like this.
Dave you never cease to amaze me knowing you 👍💪you’re constantly coming out with new ideas 💡 and it’s awesome and Kevin is also awesome as well 🫡👍shadow definitely says hi 👋 we been busy working on moving and catching up on all of your videos 👍
One needn’t be a large human being to be a giant, fortunately. Dave is plenty big enough-if he was 6’5” and 265 I don’t know if the world could handle it. There is probably a good reason the universe didn’t do that. Of course I’m mostly just kidding.
I do very little hiking and camping anymore where getting to base camp is done on foot. I have a 4 wheeler and I pack the $h!t out of it for my trip to base camp. I either haversack it from there or use a Helikon-TEX Foxtrot MK2 Belt Rig Suspension Harness, sometimes with a Numbat. I appreciate the attempts to be creative with minimizing weight, but it isn't a concern i have these days. It is amazing how much I can pack on and in my Polaris 4 wheeler. I can camp like a King for about a week easily, miles from the fray of life. One of it's biggest benefits is the ability to carry a _serious_ amount of water which is useful if one is high up in the mountains where water isn't always so easy to come by. I still keep things relatively minimal, but I can carry the luxuries - an axe, a saw, a short shovel, firearms and ammo, substantial food, big tarps, rope, big sleeping bags, etc. Winter camping is no longer an issue for me. I have a new trick that keeps me warm and comfortable in the coldest temps my area ever offers. How about doing a 4 wheeler camping trip packout sometime? Not a side-by-side. A real 4 wheeler . It would be fun to see you unpack your machine and then see a camera shot of the luxury-filled base camp you would likely be able to put together with that in mind.
The only change I would sew into this tarp to improve: Sew in another loop at the end of each tarp 1 foot in from the "2 foot overlap" to stick a pole (taken from the environment or an actual tent pole) in case no convenient trees around to hang a ridge line and to pull a couple to tent pole lines to pull tight staked into the ground.
I would recommend adding a loop on each end of the Ridgeline for a Prussik pullout to hold tension and a loop to pull out the sidewalls to take up the sag there
i like the idea, there is probably only 1 thing i would change, have you considered 2 more additional toggles on each tarp where the ridgeline runs to allow this to be tensioned?
Very nice. I enjoy it when you guys put your heads together and come up with ideas like this! I can see this working for people on a backcountry trip who want the durability of old-school gear but can divide up the weight like on a canoe trip or deep into the mountains. Great concept! But for me, I will stick with my DD Tarp (10x10) due to the weight. I could handle humping half of that tarp system if I had a willing partner to do the same. Could you show more setup configurations with this setup, please? I think that would help in seeing it as a viable option. IMHO. Thanks for doing another video, Dave. I really enjoy your cooking videos as well. I have been saving them and trying them at my leisure. Great stuff!!!🙂
I like the way you guys think when you bounce ideas back and forth. Atta boys all around to each of you. An observation, and a suggestion: Observation is that the shelter half idea was originated in the American Civil War. A piece of canvas an end pole per man. It supported the buddy-system, which increases your probability of surviving. Suggestion is to experiment with only a 1 foot overlap. Two feet seems like too much. I’d bet dollars to donuts that the one foot over lap, bending over a ridge line, is more than enough. That simple change will yield a 10’X10’ tarp. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
Do you ever tie a string/rope on the ridge rope, prior to it going under the tent, to help water to not enter the tent from traveling along the ridge rope and instead drip down outside the tent??🐾🇺🇸🐕🦺🦮
What tarp product would you suggest for someone like me that can't sleep on the ground and has to use a hammock? My hammock is an ENO double 12ft long..... Great video by the way!!
Great video sir. I also have a question concerning your bed roll cooker. What is the best way to carry it so it is portable but also poses no risk of puncturing your backpack. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Add another set of tie offs 2’ foot from those and it will allow more versatility with just the one tarp and would also allow a tarp to be connected to the other side just the same if more than two tarps were available.
that waxed canvas or oil cloth? by the way Dave this is off subject but while i'm thinking of it since you mentioned hunting have you heard anything about bears moving into the state from PA? i was talking to a guy at the gun store who said he was hunting south east of mansfield in amish country and swears he saw a bear.
I looked on the Tentsmith website and didn't see it listed. They just had "oilskin" tarps listed with their sizes, no 6'x8' tarp with the tieouts you have described.
@David Canterbury The deer you are missing there at your neck of the woods, are here at my place...5 Doe's and one three year Buck...I see them 2 times per day...🥰🤣😂🤣
Funny story, When i joint the Militairy we had to bivac with this system. Much smaller and more heavy back then,there was only one major problem with it. That your buddy, where you go out in the field with,must not forget his part of the tent.
Dave, that's how I've been running my canvas tarp system for several years. Wife carries a 6×8 in her pack and I carry one myself It's an excellent setup for an individual or a team!
As a synthetic tarp guy, my ignorance might come shining through with this question, but, assuming oilskin tarps don't have a top and a bottom (i.e., they are reversible), why do you need the auxiliary row of loops on both sides? Wouldn't you just flip the second tarp over when you lay it on the first one? lol, asking for a friend.
i use 2 british army basha's in the same configuration, i have bought 2 dutch army canvas tarps to make the same shelter, but their Heavy .... wish i'd seen this before i bought them,
Hi Dave, loved it as usuall but i have a little request. i really don't like that gun looking at me, even if it's through a lens, 4000 miles of fiberglass and a monitor. Thank you as always for everything.
I noticed your boots in the video. Where did you buy the boots? They look like Vietnam combat boots with a wedge sole? I know it's not relevant to the content of the video but I couldn't help noticing them.
So. . . . I can't get a good look at the gun on the table. I'm sure everybody wants details on it, but nobody asked. I'll be the sacrificial goat. Please give us details about your gun on the table sir. Thanks for the video
Great vid as usual mate. Grandparents taught us that trick & have been using it for years. It creates airflow, prevent condensation & control heat inside the tent when using a stove/heater. Cowabunga.!
You should show this new tarp in a super shelter configuration. With the tarp overlap, you've solved the heat escaping problem. Maybe with a dyema tarp, painters drop cloth, or a shower curtain. Kudos! Always have loved your content.
That's a good idea, it reminds me from my Army days during bivouac, but our shelter haves only had 6 inches of over lap. Keep up the good work and God bless
I dabble in reenactment of various kinds, and I always love seeing a new take on old gear. Reminds me of a Polish lavvu tent system.
Awesome video Dave. I'm a fan of old school gear as well, it's something that brings back that frontier/civil war/mountain man feeling. I just absolutely love traditional gear!!!
Great idea. Also make guy line points on the other side. Makes one tarp even more versatile and gives the possibility to make walls in the configuration you have devised. Which gives the tent more height in the middle and useful living space on the sides. However, the opening at the front and back remains....
I use the Bushcraft Spain tarp. Based on Nesmuk but adapted to our body length. I compensate for the weight by not using a backpack. I fold the tarp into a backpack on a frame. I usually set up the tarp as a low A-frame with one side open. Big enough for 1 person. Use a German army tarp (Zeldbahn) to close one side if necessary. A fire for the other side. Or burn 4 swiss candles in a bush box with a rock inside as heating at night. With a wool blanket, of course. Incl. cooking gear and water filtering system (brown mailbag), rubber mat, spare clothing etc. but exl. food and water (in canteen and haversack) about 15 kg. Bom prove!
Great job guys. I love it. It’s very logical and one of my favs. I have a custom oilcloth canvas 8x8 that has 21 tie out loops. But now you have me wanting to add more loops to the other side after ordering one of these and matching up some added loops on a couple sides to line up perfectly with one of these to add some super flexible larger shelter options. Really like this.
Dave you never cease to amaze me knowing you 👍💪you’re constantly coming out with new ideas 💡 and it’s awesome and Kevin is also awesome as well 🫡👍shadow definitely says hi 👋 we been busy working on moving and catching up on all of your videos 👍
I remember using shelter halves ! If you haven't slept in shelter halves you are definitely new Army !
The perspective on this video makes you look like a little person , to me you are giant . Great experiance and knowledge thank you .
One needn’t be a large human being to be a giant, fortunately. Dave is plenty big enough-if he was 6’5” and 265 I don’t know if the world could handle it. There is probably a good reason the universe didn’t do that. Of course I’m mostly just kidding.
He’s 5”8. I’m 6’…. I still look up to him. Dave should be a national treasure.
Looks great I like to see each of you video’s like to learn new things to have for what ever comes up
I do very little hiking and camping anymore where getting to base camp is done on foot. I have a 4 wheeler and I pack the $h!t out of it for my trip to base camp. I either haversack it from there or use a Helikon-TEX Foxtrot MK2 Belt Rig Suspension Harness, sometimes with a Numbat. I appreciate the attempts to be creative with minimizing weight, but it isn't a concern i have these days. It is amazing how much I can pack on and in my Polaris 4 wheeler. I can camp like a King for about a week easily, miles from the fray of life. One of it's biggest benefits is the ability to carry a _serious_ amount of water which is useful if one is high up in the mountains where water isn't always so easy to come by.
I still keep things relatively minimal, but I can carry the luxuries - an axe, a saw, a short shovel, firearms and ammo, substantial food, big tarps, rope, big sleeping bags, etc. Winter camping is no longer an issue for me. I have a new trick that keeps me warm and comfortable in the coldest temps my area ever offers.
How about doing a 4 wheeler camping trip packout sometime? Not a side-by-side. A real 4 wheeler . It would be fun to see you unpack your machine and then see a camera shot of the luxury-filled base camp you would likely be able to put together with that in mind.
The only change I would sew into this tarp to improve: Sew in another loop at the end of each tarp 1 foot in from the "2 foot overlap" to stick a pole (taken from the environment or an actual tent pole) in case no convenient trees around to hang a ridge line and to pull a couple to tent pole lines to pull tight staked into the ground.
Seems that having the overlaid peaks from each side would also create a rudimentary ridge vent as well. Maybe good for condensation control.
I would recommend adding a loop on each end of the Ridgeline for a Prussik pullout to hold tension and a loop to pull out the sidewalls to take up the sag there
Awesome setup congrats Dave it looks great
I’ve gone back and forth between canvas/oilskin and nylon shelters over the years. Always come back to my 8’ oilskin and wool for cover.
i like the idea, there is probably only 1 thing i would change, have you considered 2 more additional toggles on each tarp where the ridgeline runs to allow this to be tensioned?
Great gear. It could also be set up as a low-wall tent )hot or cold) for two people and their gear. Sweet!
Very nice. I enjoy it when you guys put your heads together and come up with ideas like this! I can see this working for people on a backcountry trip who want the durability of old-school gear but can divide up the weight like on a canoe trip or deep into the mountains. Great concept! But for me, I will stick with my DD Tarp (10x10) due to the weight. I could handle humping half of that tarp system if I had a willing partner to do the same. Could you show more setup configurations with this setup, please? I think that would help in seeing it as a viable option. IMHO. Thanks for doing another video, Dave. I really enjoy your cooking videos as well. I have been saving them and trying them at my leisure. Great stuff!!!🙂
Nice innovation, Dave and Kevin! Always improving!
Looks Great, hope this will be in the store someday.
Great idea, love Tentsmith use their 8x8 oilskin for a diamond fly
And placing your tarp in the right direction with the weather you would not have to worry about wind going up that flap
A tarp lavuu! Very clever! Nice! 👌🏽👌🏽👍🏻😎
Great video as always
I like the way you guys think when you bounce ideas back and forth. Atta boys all around to each of you.
An observation, and a suggestion:
Observation is that the shelter half idea was originated in the American Civil War. A piece of canvas an end pole per man. It supported the buddy-system, which increases your probability of surviving.
Suggestion is to experiment with only a 1 foot overlap. Two feet seems like too much. I’d bet dollars to donuts that the one foot over lap, bending over a ridge line, is more than enough. That simple change will yield a 10’X10’ tarp.
Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
Great idea! I think this sytem will also be suitable for a small family with kid(s) if you use 3 tarps; It will catch more wind though.
Great idea..!! Might also consider tie out points on opposite side.. can join 3 tarps together.. sell another tarp.. lol.. semper-fi sir..!!
Do you ever tie a string/rope on the ridge rope, prior to it going under the tent, to help water to not enter the tent from traveling along the ridge rope and instead drip down outside the tent??🐾🇺🇸🐕🦺🦮
Yes drip lines no rain today
Brilliant idea... easier to share the load on a camping trip
Looks like an additional loop at the 1 foot point on both tarps is needed for the rapid ridge line support.
What tarp product would you suggest for someone like me that can't sleep on the ground and has to use a hammock? My hammock is an ENO double 12ft long.....
Great video by the way!!
Great video sir. I also have a question concerning your bed roll cooker. What is the best way to carry it so it is portable but also poses no risk of puncturing your backpack. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Maybe add a loop where the center would be after joining. So you can stretch the tarps taught length wise across the ridge line?
Add another set of tie offs 2’ foot from those and it will allow more versatility with just the one tarp and would also allow a tarp to be connected to the other side just the same if more than two tarps were available.
that waxed canvas or oil cloth? by the way Dave this is off subject but while i'm thinking of it since you mentioned hunting have you heard anything about bears moving into the state from PA? i was talking to a guy at the gun store who said he was hunting south east of mansfield in amish country and swears he saw a bear.
I could go for a single loop at the outside edges of each tarp (2 more loops per tarp) at the 1 foot mark so this could be tensioned on a ridge line
Looks Great
Muito bom. 👍👍
What do you think about a loop at the Ridgeline for prusik knot just tighten it up a bit?
Genius idea.
I looked on the Tentsmith website and didn't see it listed. They just had "oilskin" tarps listed with their sizes, no 6'x8' tarp with the tieouts you have described.
Stuffing my damn piggy bank to get out there for some courses
Nice rifle
Awesome idea.
I really like this .
@David Canterbury
The deer you are missing there at your neck of the woods, are here at my place...5 Doe's and one three year Buck...I see them 2 times per day...🥰🤣😂🤣
Very nice 👍
Funny story,
When i joint the Militairy we had to bivac with this system.
Much smaller and more heavy back then,there was only one major problem with it.
That your buddy, where you go out in the field with,must not forget his part of the tent.
What happen to the multi-fuel stove?
Out of stock
Dave, that's how I've been running my canvas tarp system for several years.
Wife carries a 6×8 in her pack and I carry one myself
It's an excellent setup for an individual or a team!
Dave, is there any reason other than weight for a couple not to use an 8x10 tarp from the jump?
As a synthetic tarp guy, my ignorance might come shining through with this question, but, assuming oilskin tarps don't have a top and a bottom (i.e., they are reversible), why do you need the auxiliary row of loops on both sides? Wouldn't you just flip the second tarp over when you lay it on the first one? lol, asking for a friend.
What composition is this fabric impregnated with, and is it possible to do it yourself?
Love it
I like the way you think.
How are you going to stay warm or dry with both ends open?
Looks good to me.
Great ideas
luck on your next hunt, has Shawn had any luck?
Dave did this tarp ever make it to market? I can’t seem to find it.
I'd like to see someone make a 6'x8' space-blanket tarp, or even a 7'x7'. A 5'x7' is just too small when any kind of bad weather rolls in.
Great idea
Looks like you need a loop where the ridge line would attach.
Are we done with the trapline?
Thanks Dave
Great ideal
I think I stick with a lightweight 2 man tent that is as compact as that would be without all the trouble of having to tie them together.
Hey Dave, what is that firearm in the video?
perhaps i have missed this on your channel but how can we do things like that with cheap ass blue tarps?
Brilliant!
thanks for video
Thanks dave
Where did you get that little stove?
It’s an antique
clever design.
👍🚛
I don't see it on the website and you didn't give the weight. I'd imagine it's not much less than an 8x8 is why I ask.
Likely about 25% less than an 8x8.
👍🇺🇸😎
I would buy a Polish, lavvu
Brilliant! That thing is a game changer
Nope they have the 7x7 8x8 9x9s and so on and so forth no 6x8 on tineSmiths
🇺🇸
i use 2 british army basha's in the same configuration,
i have bought 2 dutch army canvas tarps to make the same shelter,
but their Heavy .... wish i'd seen this before i bought them,
Well if a 7x7 is 268$ that should be about the same.
David, it sure is hard to play cards with your gun aimed right at me.
Hi Dave,
loved it as usuall but i have a little request.
i really don't like that gun looking at me, even if it's through a lens, 4000 miles of fiberglass and a monitor.
Thank you as always for everything.
I noticed your boots in the video. Where did you buy the boots? They look like Vietnam combat boots with a wedge sole?
I know it's not relevant to the content of the video but I couldn't help noticing them.
The video seems to be a bit washed out color-wise. Not much color
So. . . . I can't get a good look
at the gun on the table.
I'm sure everybody wants details
on it, but nobody asked.
I'll be the sacrificial goat.
Please give us details about your
gun on the table sir.
Thanks for the video
I'm curious too.Looks like a Marlin lever action.They're made by Ruger now.
Thanks Dave