His susceptibility to DI was something I noticed the first time i jumped on a cabinet with Juri. I landed every DI against those flicker moves, every time.
Yeah I was losing a lot of matches cause of DI but started baiting it and not using the moves that leave him open as much lead to my second longest winstreak haha
Your Kim video was a HUGE help getting me into the char so far your Ed stuff has been of equal value. I feel like this is going to have to be my boy while I pray that eventually they pull in Dudley for a more pure-pugilist experience. Your content is super chill and easy to watch. Good stuff.
7:56 Not spacing dependant. It's timing dependant. You have to DP early to hit at the highest point of their launch from snarcher in order to land the slower startup QCB HP (can't remember what the move is called).
I feel like ed is lacking some offense, especially since he has no grounded overhead and his stand jab is pretty stubby. Overall though hes got a lot of tools. It feels like he excels in counterhit situations kinda like steve from tekken
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He's a hitman style counter boxer who does have offense and defense. He uses flicker to bait and the only way to beat it is to counter with di or wait out the players Timing in its use. Though it becomes an intense mindgame when an Ed main knows what he's doing with it. Pretty much all I'm saying is it's brutal when used right %100 of the time even after ever player does know how to counter play him.
You can parry his pull and it works. Ed's be quitting out after that. His jab flicker anti air is annoying. I think people will adjust to the parry because they just mash but it's back to neutral if they dont.
The DI weakness is spot on - but I think it’s “fair” since he has a lot of other tools - otherwise he would be a bit overwhelming I think. So that doesn’t bother me. So far - the only thing I’m disappointed by is the the sway stance! There should be some benefit/use/mix/variarion. Right now it mostly seems like a visual change more than anything. Seems like a lost opportunity -and as a Steve Fox main in Tekken 8 - the contrast is quite noticeable. Overall I’m happy with Ed - but again - that stance feels like weak sauce. Everything else feels pretty good. But obviously time will tell how he gets absorbed into the meta.
Bro so how? I mean... I have 2 characters at Master Level, I'm planning on go with Ed next, at this point I should have decent neutral, decent defense, solid offensive. Then try the character for a couple hours, then learn 3 or 4 combos, use all my knowledge and then... just... go for it?. Very good content bro.
I'm so tempted to just switch to Tekken after seeing this character. So stupid how they can allow the pull thing not to be a grab that you can jump out of.... Already command grabs are hard or near impossible to react to, this you're just fucked
ngl masters is kinda a joke. I have like 50 hours and I compete in masters with no past SF experience. If you are HALF decent or average, you are diamond, Decent-good is masters. Then the actual good players and tourney players are...also in masters/legend bc the ranked system means nothing unlike a game like tekken. If you are below diamond, you are either a bot, don't take FGs seriously, or spam/button mash. All there is to it. I wouldn't spread info that ed is "cheap" which just makes the community more toxic to eachother under a false pretense. The pretense being if YOU can get to masters (which means nothing anyway), that he's somehow cheap. We should leave the title of cheap or braindead to characters like honda or JP. Nevermind that these kind of titles just make people not want to play certain characters unless they are deemed "respectable" by the playerbase. And you, as a youtuber have the influence to sway that labeling.
I feel u on this, I hit masters pretty quickly to(also my first Sf) but here’s the real reason why fighting games are sick, and it’s not about rank, but learning new tech/setups. Basically the learning process. Also tournaments is the real way to prove your skill imo, not your rank(unless you’re in legend rank)
@@yoshitsune5691 Yeah, that was my whole point on the title was that SF isn't about the ranking system but the whole video is proving that Ed is cheap by getting masters, when really both the claim, and the way to verify the claim are meaningless.
@@gxp958 Oh yeah I figured, I think its just shitty. If it was like "ED is AMAZING" then wtv but we already throwing "cheap" around when that just leads to toxicity
aki has been the only character in sf6 that i really vibe with the design of and they gave her 10 different flavors of poop meanwhile ed's goofy ass 50 dollar hollister gift card lookin ass just gets to do Anything im switching to strive on god
Ed is the first character in sf6 that really fits me. i Love psycho power, i love the spiderman combos, MIST FINER, and his supers are some of the best.
VXBao using 'EndingWater' as his name for Ed is giving me the same vibes as Zhen using 'FakeProblemX' as his name for M. Bison in SFV.... both of them are absolutely cracked and just as good as the people they're parodying the names of too lmao.
Hey diaphone, on that ex flicker you can do a lightfireball with the light followup, into instant drive rush heavy punch, then use a sway upper to end with lv 1 or 3 So it would be st. Hp>ex flicker>236 lp(with fireball after) instant drive rush H.p>L.k+Mk>forward punch. Depending on which follow up punch you get out of the sway determines on how lenient super timing is. Hope this helps It comes to around 2800 damage, but you can use all 3 supers afterwards(light level 2 for fireball oki as well lol)
I've seen Sinthulu appear in 3 separate Ed videos at this point, dude must be having nightmares about getting yoinky spoinkied by Psycho Snatcher at this point
Just a heads up @diaphone you can cancel psycho knuckle with a forward dash almost up to the final point where the move is about to launch and bait DI since the DI will fall short u can hit ur DI right after ….. just FYI (the forward dash can also appear as if u launched which can further bait your opponent)
sf6 dlc characters have been a pleasant surprise so far. i wasn’t particularly interested in any of them when they were announced other than aki, but they’ve all turned out to be pretty compelling characters in their own right. i’m optimistic for the future seasons, especially if they happen to be in iterations of characters i’m actually interested in like alex. i just hope that they adjust the release schedule and maybe give us 5 characters instead of 4 so that there’s less downtime without new content though.
Theyre all really fun, but I wish theyd have made at least one of them have an orthodox kit rather then every single one having unconventional and highly situational anti airs, along with complicated gameplans and inputs
as somebody that has never been into figthing games and never seeing how street fighter 6 looks....holy shit tekken looks so much better this looks so bad not just the quality but the aesthetic, character designs, colors, everything xd looks so messy. (no hate just an observation)
Unfortunately,but sfv was pretty rough in the beginning and got much better, so there is still a chance lmao. As far as visuals I think it looks better as you get used to the style.
he's super finicky. tons of different situational enders for different combos, a lot of room to optimize but very little reward. Luke can just do the same BnB off everything and do more dmg than whatever Ed does with his optimizations.
Last 2 days... 108 rank matches played... fought 5 ken and 50 Ed... seriously worst time to play rank is the first week a new character is released. So sick of fighting Ed right now. Not like he is tough but you typically don't get close to 50% fighting all 3 of ken/luke/ jp.
Ive been waiting on my boy ed since sf6 dropped. He was my main in sf5 i love that they kept his old kit and spiced it all up. The fact hes more technical added a nice touch too ill admit i wasnt a fan of how easy his inputs were in sf5 but i know he was basically beta modern controls
@ 32:16 you forgot ed has a backdash so even tho you get those loops and people cand try to jump or di you can see it and backdash to punish it. I feel like most players arent utilizing his backdash right now.
@salttrader4113 yeah that's why you need set ups. It's not a 100% will win tactic, just use it every now and then to add offensive pressure. Im diamond 5 for reference.
im having a hard time learning some of his combos. Usually i can come up with a lot of stuff on my own but now i had to look it up online. He's pretty awesome though
They built him to be top tier. He has multiple amazing drive cancelable normals (both the low medium and the stand medium kick--which is hard to punish), the pull is crazy, he can react to projectiles with his fireball and dash, and has a second rushdown option with the dash, solid anti-airs. I am pretty sure he will be top 10. Also, they need to create some cost for PP while improving other defensive options.
Ed is an awesome character but he's definitely one of the most fake "hard" characters. There really isn't much difficulty to Ed. He reminds me of a shoto. His combos aren't difficult except some of the frame kill level 2s
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His susceptibility to DI was something I noticed the first time i jumped on a cabinet with Juri. I landed every DI against those flicker moves, every time.
Noticed that too playing as ed but you can start mixing in the backdash cancel to bait DI. It's a fun dynamic
Some of those flicker normals are cancellable though.
@blackclover4375 medium flicker can be backdashed so he gets a free combo after the opponent whiffs.
@RansuRido i mean that's just neutral. You can do that against any character if you have a read and whiff punish them
Yeah I was losing a lot of matches cause of DI but started baiting it and not using the moves that leave him open as much lead to my second longest winstreak haha
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Your Kim video was a HUGE help getting me into the char so far your Ed stuff has been of equal value. I feel like this is going to have to be my boy while I pray that eventually they pull in Dudley for a more pure-pugilist experience. Your content is super chill and easy to watch. Good stuff.
7:56 Not spacing dependant. It's timing dependant. You have to DP early to hit at the highest point of their launch from snarcher in order to land the slower startup QCB HP (can't remember what the move is called).
Haha yea I dropped it there, but it’s also spacing dependent if you hit the flicker from farther out you have to do something different as well
@@Diaphone That is true. What do you suggest to do in that situation?
I feel like ed is lacking some offense, especially since he has no grounded overhead and his stand jab is pretty stubby. Overall though hes got a lot of tools. It feels like he excels in counterhit situations kinda like steve from tekken
He's a hitman style counter boxer who does have offense and defense. He uses flicker to bait and the only way to beat it is to counter with di or wait out the players Timing in its use. Though it becomes an intense mindgame when an Ed main knows what he's doing with it. Pretty much all I'm saying is it's brutal when used right %100 of the time even after ever player does know how to counter play him.
I think he’s more of a counter outboxing style then offense
I literally saw someone day of release in Master League
you can cancel the st HP using kill rush forward and bait the DI if the opponent spams it
You can parry his pull and it works. Ed's be quitting out after that. His jab flicker anti air is annoying. I think people will adjust to the parry because they just mash but it's back to neutral if they dont.
That was so good!! Not that im surprised. What a masterclass 🎉 literally
Start mixing in the shimmy. The way Ed plays and they are worried about the other stuff a sneaky shimmy will catch even good players out for now.
“Shimmy of Justice!” type ahh shimmy 💀
great intro
His heavy punch dash you can cancel it with forward 2 kicks dash, i think you can bait some DI's like this.
Good to see your wallet is vacant after such a cheap purchase.
ed is pretty cool, he does feel kinda gimmicky though, but he’s fun to play
I wonder why everyone lets you get away with that shit when you can easily jump over it on reaction but they just sit there and let you pull them in.
So this is what high level mashing looks like… still better than me at gold 5
His Psycho Knuckle is shockingly shit. 69f startup? Doesn't beat EX moves? DI-able on reaction? Outside of combos it's a meme move.
The DI weakness is spot on - but I think it’s “fair” since he has a lot of other tools - otherwise he would be a bit overwhelming I think. So that doesn’t bother me.
So far - the only thing I’m disappointed by is the the sway stance!
There should be some benefit/use/mix/variarion.
Right now it mostly seems like a visual change more than anything.
Seems like a lost opportunity -and as a Steve Fox main in Tekken 8 - the contrast is quite noticeable.
Overall I’m happy with Ed - but again - that stance feels like weak sauce. Everything else feels pretty good.
But obviously time will tell how he gets absorbed into the meta.
Don't let this 2hr hyper-informational vid distract you from the fact that bungee gum has the properties of both rubber and gum
No overhead from the stance dash :(
Missed the opportunity to call it "Sweatless%". NoRage% it'll have to be, lol
Bro so how? I mean... I have 2 characters at Master Level, I'm planning on go with Ed next, at this point I should have decent neutral, decent defense, solid offensive. Then try the character for a couple hours, then learn 3 or 4 combos, use all my knowledge and then... just... go for it?. Very good content bro.
anyone know the name of the music track at 0:23
Pay 2 win bay beeee
Soriz to master
No rage quit% 😂
aint even been out a week😂
i didnt finish the video yet but does he ever find out that you can cancel the charge animation for SHK into Kill Switch?
I don't think that Deejay at 41:32 used sway once. No sway and barely any drive rushes? Why is he even playing Deejay? lol
Ed came a week too late for ending walker
Ed 101? Lol
Not going to lie I hate juri in this game
Yes, he's cheap. Period.
Ed in comparation to his SFV version, is much harder to master.
I'm so tempted to just switch to Tekken after seeing this character. So stupid how they can allow the pull thing not to be a grab that you can jump out of.... Already command grabs are hard or near impossible to react to, this you're just fucked
ngl masters is kinda a joke. I have like 50 hours and I compete in masters with no past SF experience. If you are HALF decent or average, you are diamond, Decent-good is masters. Then the actual good players and tourney players are...also in masters/legend bc the ranked system means nothing unlike a game like tekken.
If you are below diamond, you are either a bot, don't take FGs seriously, or spam/button mash. All there is to it.
I wouldn't spread info that ed is "cheap" which just makes the community more toxic to eachother under a false pretense. The pretense being if YOU can get to masters (which means nothing anyway), that he's somehow cheap.
We should leave the title of cheap or braindead to characters like honda or JP.
Nevermind that these kind of titles just make people not want to play certain characters unless they are deemed "respectable" by the playerbase. And you, as a youtuber have the influence to sway that labeling.
I feel u on this, I hit masters pretty quickly to(also my first Sf) but here’s the real reason why fighting games are sick, and it’s not about rank, but learning new tech/setups. Basically the learning process.
Also tournaments is the real way to prove your skill imo, not your rank(unless you’re in legend rank)
@@yoshitsune5691 Yeah, that was my whole point on the title was that SF isn't about the ranking system but the whole video is proving that Ed is cheap by getting masters, when really both the claim, and the way to verify the claim are meaningless.
@@johnsonjunior547he’s only using the word “cheap “ to clickbait. It’s what every FGC influencer does as soon as a new character drops
@@gxp958 that to 😂
@@gxp958 Oh yeah I figured, I think its just shitty. If it was like "ED is AMAZING" then wtv but we already throwing "cheap" around when that just leads to toxicity
The German hip hop is so cringe lol
aki has been the only character in sf6 that i really vibe with the design of and they gave her 10 different flavors of poop meanwhile ed's goofy ass 50 dollar hollister gift card lookin ass just gets to do Anything im switching to strive on god
Something about Ed's backthrow always makes me feel like I'm about to be thrown then I realize no, I got the throw.
Ed is the first character in sf6 that really fits me. i Love psycho power, i love the spiderman combos, MIST FINER, and his supers are some of the best.
Mist finer? you got me listening now brother
Mist? Finer.😊
On paper for me as well but I can't make him work for me. Which is sad, I want to like him but probably will return using Ken.
VXBao using 'EndingWater' as his name for Ed is giving me the same vibes as Zhen using 'FakeProblemX' as his name for M. Bison in SFV.... both of them are absolutely cracked and just as good as the people they're parodying the names of too lmao.
Chinese famous for top class counterfeit, very close to original product. They did not disappoint.
Hey diaphone, on that ex flicker you can do a lightfireball with the light followup, into instant drive rush heavy punch, then use a sway upper to end with lv 1 or 3
So it would be
st. Hp>ex flicker>236 lp(with fireball after) instant drive rush H.p>L.k+Mk>forward punch.
Depending on which follow up punch you get out of the sway determines on how lenient super timing is.
Hope this helps
It comes to around 2800 damage, but you can use all 3 supers afterwards(light level 2 for fireball oki as well lol)
I've seen Sinthulu appear in 3 separate Ed videos at this point, dude must be having nightmares about getting yoinky spoinkied by Psycho Snatcher at this point
Just a heads up @diaphone you can cancel psycho knuckle with a forward dash almost up to the final point where the move is about to launch and bait DI since the DI will fall short u can hit ur DI right after ….. just FYI (the forward dash can also appear as if u launched which can further bait your opponent)
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I really don't know how to go about learning a different character. I finally bought Aki, and I simply can not remember combos.
give yourself time and repeat combos in training until you get bored. then play some matches in training with NPCs or in casual matches.
It's all muscle memory dude. Go into training and grind it till you don't have to think.
JP’s cr hp still works but you have to actually anticipate the jump. If you react late you trade or eat a combo which is way more fair
You can cancel charged HP with command dash into DI, good option if your opponents begins to react with DI to your charged HP
O shit gotta try this out
Nope. DI hits you out of it if they don't do it at the wrong timing.
sf6 dlc characters have been a pleasant surprise so far. i wasn’t particularly interested in any of them when they were announced other than aki, but they’ve all turned out to be pretty compelling characters in their own right.
i’m optimistic for the future seasons, especially if they happen to be in iterations of characters i’m actually interested in like alex. i just hope that they adjust the release schedule and maybe give us 5 characters instead of 4 so that there’s less downtime without new content though.
Theyre all really fun, but I wish theyd have made at least one of them have an orthodox kit rather then every single one having unconventional and highly situational anti airs, along with complicated gameplans and inputs
@@JackTheRustler1332an eight year old could play honda
@@Leon-bt7gwHonda isn’t a DLC character
Ed is cheap af pull move is cheap, his drive impact his cheap
as somebody that has never been into figthing games and never seeing how street fighter 6 looks....holy shit tekken looks so much better this looks so bad not just the quality but the aesthetic, character designs, colors, everything xd looks so messy. (no hate just an observation)
Unfortunately,but sfv was pretty rough in the beginning and got much better, so there is still a chance lmao. As far as visuals I think it looks better as you get used to the style.
@@lopiks9248 yeah im sure you do its by no means horrible but def could be way better.
Your little guide at the beginning is actually super helpful. I’ve been trying to figure out what combos to do with him and yours seem pretty good.
he's super finicky. tons of different situational enders for different combos, a lot of room to optimize but very little reward. Luke can just do the same BnB off everything and do more dmg than whatever Ed does with his optimizations.
Problem with Ed is his complexity, im waiting to see how he does in tournament
Everyone says the dlc characters are cheap when they release.
You're sick bro. Amazing content as always
The displacement is was makes him OP. Anytime u cam control a opposing character especially if they are blocking is beyond ridiculous.
That's crazy. I swear if somehow I became a god in sf6 and won every match I still couldn't get to master in such a short time.
Is Ed being cheap going to be effective in tournaments? Would love to see how you do in TNS or Can Opener.
Congrats on 100K subscribers!! Your videos are what got me back to fighting games again, keep up the awesome content!
Last 2 days... 108 rank matches played... fought 5 ken and 50 Ed... seriously worst time to play rank is the first week a new character is released.
So sick of fighting Ed right now. Not like he is tough but you typically don't get close to 50% fighting all 3 of ken/luke/ jp.
Ed is on pace to ruining Street Fighter 6 *ruining*…
Does Ed's voice sound muffled to anyone else? Like talking through a gas mask or something?
finally someone who doesn't talk about the new character in only superlatives.
this character design is kinda weird because he looks just like an alternative costume for Luke
Diaphone heading to Games Done Quick
It surprised me a little bit hearing Ed's theme for the first time sonce it is in german
Is 2B guide coming still?
Your frames seems a lil faster than Others.
Naw it's easier to use Luke Ryu and Ken
thanks!
Ive been waiting on my boy ed since sf6 dropped. He was my main in sf5 i love that they kept his old kit and spiced it all up. The fact hes more technical added a nice touch too ill admit i wasnt a fan of how easy his inputs were in sf5 but i know he was basically beta modern controls
@ 32:16 you forgot ed has a backdash so even tho you get those loops and people cand try to jump or di you can see it and backdash to punish it. I feel like most players arent utilizing his backdash right now.
It's definitely early days, nowadays psycho knuckles gets you instant DI, same for the ex snatcher :(.
That's when you back dash to bait the drive impact then punish it
@markspc1285 it works pre master rank, most likely, but against good players they do it on reaction at impact.
@salttrader4113 yeah that's why you need set ups. It's not a 100% will win tactic, just use it every now and then to add offensive pressure. Im diamond 5 for reference.
im having a hard time learning some of his combos. Usually i can come up with a lot of stuff on my own but now i had to look it up online. He's pretty awesome though
As much as i enjoy playing ed i cannot for the life of me understand what they were smoking when they gave a boxer the ultimate t-rex jab....
4:15 you can technically cancel the charged heavy punch into kill rush my double tapping forward (but that might get u hit but its still there)
holy shit bro it's been like one day this video is crazy long
Capcom cooking
These records are kinda pointless now, considering that the game can dump players as high as Diamond 5 after Placement Matches.
30 minutes in and I'm just realizing that the thumbnail in the runtime do not match. Looks like I'm in for the long haul.
Man i suck with ed got a diamond 1 geif barely olaying gief but got ranked to gold with ed lol hopefully i could steal some strats from you
dp?
Master doesn't feel as cool in SF6 as it in Granblue.
Then get Legend rank
I platinumed Ed to prove that you can suck very badly with a cheap character as well.
It’s like the devs felt bad about how he looked, so they gave him 1 button combos.
im loving ed so far however hes a bit more zoner than i would have liked him to be for a boxer
Ed walking into the foreground for his super looks really cursed
"Oh wait, I'm plus! Hahahahaha" (in the style of boondocks)
1:120:8 explain how u grabed him and didn't even know u did🤔
4:14 you can cancel a charged knuckle with 2 kicks' dash i think
They built him to be top tier. He has multiple amazing drive cancelable normals (both the low medium and the stand medium kick--which is hard to punish), the pull is crazy, he can react to projectiles with his fireball and dash, and has a second rushdown option with the dash, solid anti-airs. I am pretty sure he will be top 10.
Also, they need to create some cost for PP while improving other defensive options.
Guide soon??? I love Rashid and AKI guides ❤
why does he say 'johnny depp' when he throws
If you rage quit you lose like 400 LP
Awesome
Ed is an awesome character but he's definitely one of the most fake "hard" characters. There really isn't much difficulty to Ed. He reminds me of a shoto. His combos aren't difficult except some of the frame kill level 2s
Yeah he just plays a little different to other characters but when your used to him he isn't hard at all
let's eat
8:58 - Why thank you.