This is the exact reason you get all necessary information first before switching an emergency off your frequency. I use to train emergency comms and you do not do this. If that is there procedure, it is wrong, and they need to reevaluate. You can never be 100% sure the aircraft will be able to come up on the new frequency. Get the nature of the emergency, pob and the aircraft intentions, then you can switch as necessary.
I’ll get a lot of $hit for this, but be honest, American comms is utter $hit. Every departure briefing includes the emergency brief. You know almost exactly what will happen, so just say it. Why use 100 words when 20 will do? Ps Hi RLT.
@@bsmith1164 - almost exclusively pilots. ATC is overstretched, generally, so they’re struggling with the system. In this case the first emergency call to ATC should have contained a little more information. In other videos we hear pilots saying “we’re running checklists, standby”. Again, this isn’t enough initial information for ATC to work with given the tight airspace and range of what could go wrong during initial climb out. I’ve got no doubts as to pilots abilities to fly the lane, just comms seems far worse than elsewhere, and by a long margin.
damned their stupid checklists. instead of landing the plane asap, they're flying in a circle in the middle of the ocean... i get the strong feeling, a lot of these engine failures are due to sabotage. like, for example, fuel lines that aren't tightened properly...
but they did land asap…? they diverted as soon as they knew something was wrong, and they had to go out so far bc the approach had like 3 planes queued up on it already. and unless you’re a Hawaiian mechanic or something, we can’t possibly know why it failed.
This is the exact reason you get all necessary information first before switching an emergency off your frequency. I use to train emergency comms and you do not do this. If that is there procedure, it is wrong, and they need to reevaluate. You can never be 100% sure the aircraft will be able to come up on the new frequency. Get the nature of the emergency, pob and the aircraft intentions, then you can switch as necessary.
I’ll get a lot of $hit for this, but be honest, American comms is utter $hit. Every departure briefing includes the emergency brief. You know almost exactly what will happen, so just say it. Why use 100 words when 20 will do?
Ps Hi RLT.
@@EdOeuna do you mean pilots or ATC?
@@bsmith1164 - almost exclusively pilots. ATC is overstretched, generally, so they’re struggling with the system. In this case the first emergency call to ATC should have contained a little more information. In other videos we hear pilots saying “we’re running checklists, standby”. Again, this isn’t enough initial information for ATC to work with given the tight airspace and range of what could go wrong during initial climb out. I’ve got no doubts as to pilots abilities to fly the lane, just comms seems far worse than elsewhere, and by a long margin.
Glad the controller got rid of the emergency aircraft off his freq fast. That could have interfered with his Jimmy Johns lunch order.
Yeah, that seemed weird. Maybe something missing in the timeline?
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So can you not stop the plane as well with an engine out? (i.e.: no reverse thrust)
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They cant hear you Frankie.
@@RLTtizME I'm making a joke on how the approach controller called them like 100 times lmao.
@@Frank787-9 You are the only schlub laughing at your material. 👍🤡
At least it isn’t the controller who couldn’t understand that one can be declaring an emergency and not requiring an immediate return to the airport.
damned their stupid checklists. instead of landing the plane asap, they're flying in a circle in the middle of the ocean...
i get the strong feeling, a lot of these engine failures are due to sabotage. like, for example, fuel lines that aren't tightened properly...
but they did land asap…? they diverted as soon as they knew something was wrong, and they had to go out so far bc the approach had like 3 planes queued up on it already. and unless you’re a Hawaiian mechanic or something, we can’t possibly know why it failed.
Just to clarify, are you implying that somebody (or a group of people) is/are INTENTIONALLY sabotaging aircraft to invoke engine failures?
Checklists are written w/the blood & tombstones of previous incidents, plus a helping of company & manufacturers input
All these pilots doing what they are told to do. That’s the FFA for ya!
@@jamessimms415 beat me to it. Checklists should never be skipped, they are lessons from others who did not have the luxury of a checklist
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