If you watch gryaznov on his RUclips streams, you will learn that true concert pianists can get pieces like this under their fingers in a matter of hours/days. When they read, they aren't picking apart individual notes, but are able to digest the entire harmonic structure of a piece very quickly. Someone in the top 50 pianists in the world could probably master the Rach 3 in 6 weeks of intense study. Freaks of nature like Hamelin maybe 3 weeks.
@@meszian you know piano better than me? I highly doubt it. This is a fake account for obvious reasons, but I have played Rach 3 in competitions. Have also played Prokofiev 2, Tch1.. pieces such as Gaspard De La Nuit, Petrushka etc which are considered to be difficult. Pro pianists don’t just learn the harmonic structure of a piece, we also learn in sequences when it comes to the technical issues and learn to command brain in a sense to find “loopholes” in these difficult passages. While I managed to learn the concerto in about 6-8 weeks in summer, it took me one year to adjust to play it on stage at a competition level. Trifonov had at least 8 months to prepare it for Tchaikovsky and our teacher said that it would he safer for him and also smarter to play Chopin 1st. It’s an extremely complex concerto (also musically speaking)
it is just incredible to see you go from being unable to even play at half speed to be able to play this monstrosity at tempo. Im truly amazed at how much progress you've made. just out of curiosity i sat down and tryed playing that difficult passage with all the sixteenth notes in the right hand. it looks hard, but in reality its impercievably difficult. Congratulations on your incredible progress. of course it is lacking a lot of the fine details and personality but just the fact that you are able to play this is wild. i hope to one day be able to perform this with just near the technical ablities you posses.
I played this for my master's final exam year ago, and my god - there were some passages where I thought, I wish I had your abilities. Sure, you need to brush up here and there but dude - you have it in you. Chapeau!
I'm astonished by the skills needed to play such masterpieces well. And a little desperate by the number of steps between my humble level of just intermediate to yours. But it's life...
Very good video, I like how you showed the hard work behind the Piece, especially such a great piece, you must practice so much and give so much time for it, good work!
That’s super cool! Watched all the way long! I understand what it takes to learn a difficult piece for months, I’ve been there, but on a substantially lower level (Chopin’s ballade) . Thus, even more I respect what you managed to play here in 7 months, rach 3 is a big one. Good job, keep it up! And also, absolutely loved the commentary effects in the video, found them pretty amusing!🤪
It's absolutely marvellous that you are practicing the part at 15:10 without crossing your fingers. I bet that about 90% of pianists would because it's easier, even most professionals. The end result of your fingering will be a much better sound, less hammering and more glittering since it's much easier to use the exact amount of force on the keys.
I often think all the moving chromatics, which sound beautiful, make it sound like a one man circus, which seeing all those notes, definitely seems like that’s the case. Amazing!
Wonderful to watch you work on this piece. Your efforts are far better than mine. These days I just play the measures and themes I like best and can handle. My favorite piano concerto. Though I've heard it played a thousand times, by a hundred pianists, the final gallop of the Third Movement still gets my heart racing.
Have you ever seen the movie "Shine?" Amazing movie about pianist David Helfgott and a big part of the movie is him learning and performing the Rach 3.
You have wonderful skills! But thank you for chronicling your journey and struggle with this music. You give me inspiration to keep working on those pieces that are a struggle for me. And you really broke strings?? I've never played that hard! Yet... :D
I believe that if this takes you that much time to learn the passage then you should work on the Rach other work to build the technique! Because by the time you learn this passage it will loose its magic! 😂
![[Practice] 3rd mvt(again)of Rachmaninoff, Piano Concerto no. 3](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/PnlkzEwWzfM/mqdefault.jpg)
![[Practice]Rachmaninoff - Piano Concerto no. 3 Op. 30, first movement](/img/1.gif)
The dedication into this blows me away. I cannot imagine how long those professional pianists take to learn the full concerto.
It's kinda funny, knowing that Lugansky "learned" the whole concerto in a couple of days, with a lifetime after to master it
They usually learn much faster than amateur pianist.
Took me about a year..It’s a tough one
If you watch gryaznov on his RUclips streams, you will learn that true concert pianists can get pieces like this under their fingers in a matter of hours/days. When they read, they aren't picking apart individual notes, but are able to digest the entire harmonic structure of a piece very quickly. Someone in the top 50 pianists in the world could probably master the Rach 3 in 6 weeks of intense study. Freaks of nature like Hamelin maybe 3 weeks.
@@meszian you know piano better than me? I highly doubt it. This is a fake account for obvious reasons, but I have played Rach 3 in competitions. Have also played Prokofiev 2, Tch1.. pieces such as Gaspard De La Nuit, Petrushka etc which are considered to be difficult. Pro pianists don’t just learn the harmonic structure of a piece, we also learn in sequences when it comes to the technical issues and learn to command brain in a sense to find “loopholes” in these difficult passages. While I managed to learn the concerto in about 6-8 weeks in summer, it took me one year to adjust to play it on stage at a competition level. Trifonov had at least 8 months to prepare it for Tchaikovsky and our teacher said that it would he safer for him and also smarter to play Chopin 1st.
It’s an extremely complex concerto (also musically speaking)
it is just incredible to see you go from being unable to even play at half speed to be able to play this monstrosity at tempo. Im truly amazed at how much progress you've made. just out of curiosity i sat down and tryed playing that difficult passage with all the sixteenth notes in the right hand. it looks hard, but in reality its impercievably difficult. Congratulations on your incredible progress. of course it is lacking a lot of the fine details and personality but just the fact that you are able to play this is wild. i hope to one day be able to perform this with just near the technical ablities you posses.
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I played this for my master's final exam year ago, and my god - there were some passages where I thought, I wish I had your abilities. Sure, you need to brush up here and there but dude - you have it in you. Chapeau!
I don't think 'she' is a dude.
This is so cool to see the piece slowest becoming better and better!
Inspirational; thanks for the behind-the-scene view of this masterpiece. Keep at it, Champ, the Force is with you.
Your playing is wonderful and it is really cool to see the progress you make over the time you recorded these. Awesome job!
I'm astonished by the skills needed to play such masterpieces well. And a little desperate by the number of steps between my humble level of just intermediate to yours. But it's life...
Very good video, I like how you showed the hard work behind the Piece, especially such a great piece, you must practice so much and give so much time for it, good work!
Thank you very much to give us this. I'm practicing very much and this is refreshing and enjoyable for me.
It sounds so different, without the orchestra
You should listen to rach 2 without orchestra. It’s a whole different piece!
I'm singing in my head the orchestra part along to this so that shows you are certainly playing it coherently
That’s super cool! Watched all the way long! I understand what it takes to learn a difficult piece for months, I’ve been there, but on a substantially lower level (Chopin’s ballade) . Thus, even more I respect what you managed to play here in 7 months, rach 3 is a big one. Good job, keep it up!
And also, absolutely loved the commentary effects in the video, found them pretty amusing!🤪
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It's absolutely marvellous that you are practicing the part at 15:10 without crossing your fingers. I bet that about 90% of pianists would because it's easier, even most professionals. The end result of your fingering will be a much better sound, less hammering and more glittering since it's much easier to use the exact amount of force on the keys.
I often think all the moving chromatics, which sound beautiful, make it sound like a one man circus, which seeing all those notes, definitely seems like that’s the case. Amazing!
Wonderful to watch you work on this piece. Your efforts are far better than mine. These days I just play the measures and themes I like best and can handle. My favorite piano concerto. Though I've heard it played a thousand times, by a hundred pianists, the final gallop of the Third Movement still gets my heart racing.
Very nice. I love how this video profiles the journey and the difficulty associated with Rach 3 that we just don’t see often. Wonderful!
What a monumental piece, congrats on getting this far, keep it up and don't get yourself hurt!
came across this in my recommended and im from canada lol
incredible progress! oh how i wish i could play the 3rd mvt to that degree of proficiency...
21:54 my favorite part of the whole concerto
Really? 😂
@@joeyblogsy yes... That's why i wrote it.
Great job! Rach 3 is a giant pain in the butt, however so worth it in the end.
This is so cool. It would help for my piano practice. Thanks so much for the video 👍💐
utmost respect!
박수~~~짝짝짝짝💕💕💕😊😍
너무멋져요 너무큰도움이되었어요
💥💪💪
Have you ever seen the movie "Shine?" Amazing movie about pianist David Helfgott and a big part of the movie is him learning and performing the Rach 3.
6.00 the triplet section is the only part of the piece i have attempted.
Nelson Freire demorava 3 dias para aprender
이거 칠 때마다 안 그래도 작은 손 악보에 맞춘다고 머리 싸매던 추억이 있어요 ㅋㅋ
Great job friend 🎹👏👏👏👍👍💪🎹🎹
음대생이신가봐요~~너무 멋져요!!! 어려운 곡이라 전공자도 정말 많은연습이 필요한가봐요...😭 응원합니다~!
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You have wonderful skills! But thank you for chronicling your journey and struggle with this music. You give me inspiration to keep working on those pieces that are a struggle for me.
And you really broke strings?? I've never played that hard! Yet... :D
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I think I broke strings 3-4 times in the past year😂
그런데 질문있는데요연습할때 양손같이연습하는게더좋은가요?아님따로먼저하는게나을까요? 양손먼저하기너무버거워요ㅠㅠ
헙 네 어떤곡이든 따로연습 아주 많이 도움이됩니다(정작 전 잘 안하려고하는..)
can you play the beginning of the 16:06 melody plz
Very nice job! Rachmaninov is a PITA, isn't he?🙂
Wowowowow
22:40
I believe that if this takes you that much time to learn the passage then you should work on the Rach other work to build the technique! Because by the time you learn this passage it will loose its magic! 😂
Awesome !
Du u have a sheet music of the whole concerto with only the piano part ?
I use the 2 piano score
@@neropiano-5205 great ! Is it available somewhere ? Tried on imslp last time but had it in very poor quality, was hard to read
I'll double check it
Yes I downloaded from imslp I think it’s fine! It’s #111938
I can barely focus on the short pieces, let alone spending 7 months on one movement.
And some pianists play that whole concerto without score... wtf
All pianists do ...
Yeah, once you play piano, you practice songs soooo much that you basically memorize it, playing it in ur sleep, practicing in your head at work
What's the first piano? A k.kawai?
Oh yes it is, actually! Just noticed that
The pianos definitely need to be tuned but great playing
class
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영상 잘 보고 손 꼭 잡고 갑니다.
바로 손 잡으러 오시면 풀린다고 하더라구요~~
몇일 시간차를 두고 와주시고 3분이상 영상 봐주시면 감사하겠습니다.
So many double clicks😱
라흐 3......
Awesome progress!! This piece takes so much practice. I’ve started posting about it if you want to check out my latest vid :)
Yamaha and Rachmaninoff - incompatible
Why don't play Bach? 😂😂😂
This ez
Very easy 😂