Retire the belt. Fights like that shows it’s just another belt now. It’s not that people don’t understand all the aspects and complexities of grappling but that fight isn’t what the belt represents; if we go back to Nate Diaz and the origination of the belt it’s actually the exact opposite of what it should be. Doesn’t mean you can’t grapple but if you don’t have the sub then stand them up and let them continue to go at it
I'll tell you though everytime I saw Max jammed up I kept wondering why he doesn't elbow that soft part of the leg right before the knee like a piston, do it enough and he'll not want that body lock, at least make him pay right??? Punish some part of his body
Dude is done and he knows it.. remember that aslong as Ilia stays in lightweight Charles will never be a champion again... and who do you think will retire first? Exactly...
@insaner_94dude just changed his style to suit the current lineup...so if Charles is done then max is super washed...how can someone lose to a done kind of fighter....
@TheMultiCircusno it wasn't you guys are clowns, holloway got fraud checked hard, khamzat sat on DDP with no damage anywhere, olivera landed the harder shots every single round on the feet, max looked like a helpless child
If he could choose get the job done quickly and clean (not going to the goddamn hospital) he definetly would, and I feel like who says otherwise its crazy or dont know wtf its talking about
I think Charles had something to prove with max, max continuously was calling Charles a quitter in the past, not blatantly but subtly. Charles definitely remembered all the ppl calling him a quitter after their first bout, he wanted to break max and I think he did
@henriquefelinimena7433in 1st fight Charles was getting outstriked in few exchanges and suddenly got ,,deadly neck injury", Max got dominated for 5 rounds, was in 4 deep submissions but never quit, never tapped, never stopped fighting Charles is better fighter Max is much bigger badass
@nicolasmorais7952I swr people keep making dumb comments as if “safest path to victory” isn’t different for each fighter. Like as you said, Max’s would be to trade punched, idk why other ppl can’t understand such a simple concept
how about make the grappling entertaining and if you realize you can’t submit ur opponent you try gnp a bit or if you’re in a bmf fight make it a lil entertaining by striking for more than 5 seconds
maybe it’s because it’s 2 legends but i find it way more entertaining the way charles grapples in mma or jujitsu grappling in mma in general rather than the wrestler just taking down and holding, let you back up takes you down again for 25 minutes.
then its just a normal belt? but its not....its a gimick belt for the sole purpose of ENTERTAINMENT OF THE CASUAL FANS. they were not entertained at all, and thats it
@FullsendMSVA BMF should be able to win the fight however he wants, not only in certain conditions (meaning not relying on the other person to only box)
@FullsendMSVIf charles doesn’t deserve it bcoz hes not “entertaining” then max 100% doesnt deserve it because he couldnt get off the ground LOL He also lost every single striking exchange they had, buddy got rocked in his own “point down” at the last few seconds of the fight
It was a trap. If Max tried to undo the hooks, he would leave his neck open for Charles to attack. And that deep half guard with leg control was pure technique. For those who play at the high level of BJJ, it would be like chess.
Charles is such a legend. He did what Fluffy failed to do with Strickland. Disruput the jab and get closer for the takedown, but Strickland teps as well, Max did not. The BMF has a name and is DO bronX. 🦁👑
Bro not to mention how exhausting wrestling and jiu jitsu are throwing kicks and punches is very tiring too but being on the ground being able to stifle air and choke someone is very taxing on the stamina in my opinion ground game is way harder to master
Bro you gotta do the analysis for the 3v3 Death Sentence and WingedC vs Somebody Streetbeets video, I can't wait anymore. 🤣🤣🤣😅😅 I need it more than drugs. 🤣
brains versus brawl only works when both fighters have equal levels of brawl, this feels like a cautionary tale.... I was cheering for my fellow brasillian Charles, but damn... Almost any one else in the spot holloway was would have folded in two rounds tops, that man has the hearth of a lion!
In my personal opinion I feel like the bmf title should be a stand and bang type fight I get that grappling is a big part of mma but, if you just basically lay on someone for five minutes at a time and get some punches in here and there, I don’t feel like that’s makes you the baddest fighter and the bmf title fight should be a tad different then a regular ufc mma fight
Nah first thing off the bat mighty we love jiu jitsu we love wrestling, HOW MANY TIMES IT GOT TO BE SAID, THATS NOT THE ASSIGNMENT OF THE MOTHER FRIKEN BMF BELT!!
Why does each picture of Max show every single stage of grief he went through while he was getting dominated lol damn mighty you doing my boy max dirty with that bro
Uncle mighty, my WW2 grandpa absolutely loved watching you fight back in the early 2000s, as well as my indigenous family. Small, but mighty and persistent beyond the idealisms of being a champion in just the ring. I think Max should have 100% been training BJJ/Wrestling ! Like shit , send unc to Dagestan for 2-3 months and rebuild his entire core foundation, then re group with his striking game !
Love what you said, Demetrious Johnson. Charles Oliveira poured heart and soul into that fight, technical, relentless, constantly attacking. Unlike others who just lay on top or focus only on takedowns, Charles worked the whole time, showcasing beautiful MMA. This is truly mixed martial arts.
that was like watching Aang remove the firebending from the fire lord at the end of Avatar and folks saying its boring because they didnt watch any other episode and were expecting a kamehameha or something.
irmão, o Charles fez melhor que o volka nas primeiras duas lutas contra o Max na decisão que foram bem questionáveis, vai levar um tempo para as pessoas verem o quão impressionante foi essa performance
I get why some people say the fight was boring, but I was on the edge of my seat. I kept thinking that Max was going to get up and do something spectacular to turn the fight around. So for me, the fight wasn't boring, it's just that what I kept anticipating, never really materialized. And even during the few standup exchanges there were, it looked like Charles was getting the better of Max. Definitely not the outcome that I was expecting. But there's no rule that says a BMF fight has to stay on the feet. It is just something that many people have come to expect with these BMF title fights. I'm not sure who planted that narrative, but it is what it is.
The highlight of the night wasn't the striking-it was the centimeter-perfect weight distribution. I almost spilled my drink when Charles slightly shifted his left glute in the third round. Pure, unadulterated 'high-level' adrenaline JOE ROGAN PROBABLY
Charles dominated a freaking legend completely: 5x0. That's pretty badass. He wasn't stalling, holding the opponent on the ground and doing nothing, like Chimaev did last fight. On the contrary, Charles was constantly seeking to submit and just didn't because Max is really tough. So, not boring at all if you understand the fight. However that's indeed boring for the casual fan who can't appreciate a masterful performance like this. Also it's real bad for a BMF bout to have the champion crying after getting the belt. That was super lame, such a non-BMF thing to do.
No but they need to make it like a performance bonus, where it’s on the line but if you don’t put on a bad ass fight you walk away the your extra/main event pay but no title
I dont mind a dominant ground control match but for the BMF belt..... Charles all of a sudden turns into a grapple is bullshit. He stood with all the other 155ers. And chooses to grapple a 145er is crazy. What's worst is he didn't even submit Max.
Max got turned into a 8 year old kid on his first day rolling on the mat dude wasn’t a danger at all. Charles was able to slam elbow and go for submissions and max couldn’t even get back to his feet. If you want it all striking go watch boxing or bkfc
Alter the rules, if it's for a BMF title the rule set should be changed to basically a kickboxing match. No grappling or takedowns, its all stand and bang or getting dirty in the clench.
BMF belt is fun but it really is such a gimmick once a grappler fights for it. No dis to Charles, he is a the closest version of a grappler heavy BMF. UFC definitely messed up making this a BMF belt, unless they use it to get fights against people like Masvidal, Conor, or Nate.
Hey I know the information is still new but I think a video on the Jones and Dana situation is needed about his statement and the truth of the white house card.
The problem is the name of the Title is BMF so people are expecting a slug fest. Now it just feels more like any other belt where of course a good amount of good wrestlers do very well in. Which we already had plenty of. Still a great fight but not what a lot of people think when it comes to the BMF.
Should Charles defend the BMF title or should UFC retire the belt?!
I think he should fight arman again but not put it on the line, who u got winning that rematch?
retire it in my opinion
Retire the belt. Fights like that shows it’s just another belt now. It’s not that people don’t understand all the aspects and complexities of grappling but that fight isn’t what the belt represents; if we go back to Nate Diaz and the origination of the belt it’s actually the exact opposite of what it should be. Doesn’t mean you can’t grapple but if you don’t have the sub then stand them up and let them continue to go at it
I'll tell you though everytime I saw Max jammed up I kept wondering why he doesn't elbow that soft part of the leg right before the knee like a piston, do it enough and he'll not want that body lock, at least make him pay right??? Punish some part of his body
he should be stripped
Mighty you should do one of those training videos with Charles 🤞🏼🔥🐐
Up 💥💥🙏
Yeah yeah!
Hell yeah, I wanna that absolutely
Would love to
Need to make it happen 🔥
Justin Gaethje did not die for this 😂😂😂
Charles finished Justin in 1 so makes sense tbh
Justin's getting a free shot at Ilia. I think its okay that he died.
@ThisGamerSeemsLegitI understand where you coming from yet he was still an underdog against Paddy lol you can’t call it a free title shot
@ThisGamerSeemsLegit “FREE shot” yeah right buddy Justin earned this fight
@ThisGamerSeemsLegitdominantly beating Fiziev and Paddy is not a free title shot
Someone said it best: charles fought the bmf like it was a title defense, and fought his title defenses like they were bmf
Dude is done and he knows it.. remember that aslong as Ilia stays in lightweight Charles will never be a champion again... and who do you think will retire first? Exactly...
@insaner_94dude just changed his style to suit the current lineup...so if Charles is done then max is super washed...how can someone lose to a done kind of fighter....
@Babypuchuu so you replied without reading the comment... ok buddy
@insaner_94 the exact same can be said about Max Holloway...
Instead of Max pointing down, this time he should have tried pointing up.
😂
I hate the khamzat DDP fight, but this was different. Charles was landing hard shots and going for subs.
And if he can't get a sub in 25 minutes of control time, then it is an absolute snooze fest.
@SauronOfMiddleEarthhe stopped going for it after Round 2. I think the Holloway team expected him to keep pursuing it and gassing out.
Man you just fuck with Charles bro this was a very similar fight
@TheMultiCircusno it wasn't you guys are clowns, holloway got fraud checked hard, khamzat sat on DDP with no damage anywhere, olivera landed the harder shots every single round on the feet, max looked like a helpless child
no you just like the fighter more
Its not like charles wasnt looking for the finish EVERY SINGLE SECOND in that fight
If he could choose get the job done quickly and clean (not going to the goddamn hospital) he definetly would, and I feel like who says otherwise its crazy or dont know wtf its talking about
I think Charles had something to prove with max, max continuously was calling Charles a quitter in the past, not blatantly but subtly. Charles definitely remembered all the ppl calling him a quitter after their first bout, he wanted to break max and I think he did
Well ...mex is not wrong and Charles couldn't get max to tap so proved max right
I agree
@DeterminedFC So he dominated Max for 5 rounds and it proved Charles is a quitter? Can you elaborate it a bit more? I don't get it.
Max was saying that for real. Charles showed LEVELS. Wobbled max on the feet and dominated on the ground, every round.
@henriquefelinimena7433in 1st fight Charles was getting outstriked in few exchanges and suddenly got ,,deadly neck injury", Max got dominated for 5 rounds, was in 4 deep submissions but never quit, never tapped, never stopped fighting
Charles is better fighter
Max is much bigger badass
If the BMF can’t defend a takedown then unfortunately he’s not the BMF.
If you’re taking the safest path of victory then you are not a BMF
@m1l3s0n8cope 😢
@m1l3s0n8And exchanging punches isn't the easiest way for Max to go?
@m@m1l3s0n8 you are going to knocked out the , you are the dumb
@nicolasmorais7952I swr people keep making dumb comments as if “safest path to victory” isn’t different for each fighter. Like as you said, Max’s would be to trade punched, idk why other ppl can’t understand such a simple concept
You have a deep understanding of fighting, brother. Have you ever thought about fighting professionally?
He’d get smoked in the ring , this guys a keyboard genius
🕯 ⚱️ 🏺 Rest In Peace to the BMF Championship ⚰️ 🪦🕊
If they want it to be about just striking I think they should say it
Its pretty obvious
When MMA started they had the minimum strike count and it was lame and gay and everybody hated it
@merrsa1 exactly
how about make the grappling entertaining and if you realize you can’t submit ur opponent you try gnp a bit or if you’re in a bmf fight make it a lil entertaining by striking for more than 5 seconds
Or fight at GLORY
10:20 tattoo analysis on point lol
maybe it’s because it’s 2 legends but i find it way more entertaining the way charles grapples in mma or jujitsu grappling in mma in general rather than the wrestler just taking down and holding, let you back up takes you down again for 25 minutes.
0:06 Lmaoo who???
Charles Olverrr 😂😂
CTE
BMF dead? No way! These are the fights we wanted! (10 years ago) Lol
Maybe a BMF would also know how to grapple and have a decent TDD?
A BMF doesnt rely on playing it safe by hugging for 20 minutes
then its just a normal belt? but its not....its a gimick belt for the sole purpose of ENTERTAINMENT OF THE CASUAL FANS. they were not entertained at all, and thats it
@FullsendMSVA BMF should be able to win the fight however he wants, not only in certain conditions (meaning not relying on the other person to only box)
@RYAN_4_ a BMF should be able to entertain everyone.
@FullsendMSVIf charles doesn’t deserve it bcoz hes not “entertaining” then max 100% doesnt deserve it because he couldnt get off the ground LOL
He also lost every single striking exchange they had, buddy got rocked in his own “point down” at the last few seconds of the fight
im a casual and boxing fan so I tend to measure how boring a fight is based on how much stand up there is so this breakdown is helpful
Finding book called TestoGenesis Protocol by Angelico should be non-negotiable. Its the kind of knowledge you cant afford to die without.
True. Thats why I say that every guy should read it at least once in his life
I had NO idea Charles had a Pokémon on leg sleeve.
19:15 bro is not a mathematician
Definitely not dead. At another level that apparently many fans don’t even comprehend.
Be me ef belt is for the bums, and we saw nothing bummy on saturday night during the main event
As much as i hate grappling atleast charles was active while grappling i hate wen they jst lay on you n waste time
0:42 except against McGregor lol
0:17 Max’s face 😂😂😂
"such a boring fight" and yet Max fighting for his life for over 10 minutes 😅😅😅
I would pay to watch a mighty journey with Charles Oliveira, that would be epic
most entertaining part of the fight for mighty was Charles tattoos lmao 😂
Picking against our GOAT has gotten me out of poverty 🤣
When you are drunk at a party, this was one of the worst fights to watch when it's considered a "BMF" fight.
Imagine telling your friends how much of a banger this fight will be just to end up watching this sh**.
@TehUltimateSnakeJust to end up watching Oliveira beat that out of Max. Hilarious.
Make the form bmf look like an amateur is bmf as hell.
@Milanxlc Exactly. Hilarious.
I was buzzin off of tequila then Charles does this bullsh... Fkd up the end of my night for sure lmaooo I got some great sleep though
21:03 FR bro, I'm with you
I love how you just gotta stop and admire the Pokémon tattoos
Pov: me listening to dj talk about grappling as if ik what he’s on about
Mfs who never wrestled will never understand how tough it is
It was a trap. If Max tried to undo the hooks, he would leave his neck open for Charles to attack. And that deep half guard with leg control was pure technique. For those who play at the high level of BJJ, it would be like chess.
BMF BELT JUST GOTTAKEN OVER WITH WRESTLING AN JUJITSU .
" RETIRE DA BMF BELT "
Great breakdown! Thanks Mighty!! 👊
9:54 this is the high level MMA analysis I’m here to see, thank you DJ 😂
This is Mix Martial Arts 💪🏽
“Charles Oliviera beats the Fuck outta Ryan Garcia”😭😭😭
Charles is such a legend. He did what Fluffy failed to do with Strickland. Disruput the jab and get closer for the takedown, but Strickland teps as well, Max did not. The BMF has a name and is DO bronX. 🦁👑
Great stuff Mighty as always.
Love your breakdowns
Bro not to mention how exhausting wrestling and jiu jitsu are throwing kicks and punches is very tiring too but being on the ground being able to stifle air and choke someone is very taxing on the stamina in my opinion ground game is way harder to master
Love your analysis. Technical depth like this is for the real fans not all the casuals.
This mma brothaa
Not boring is crazy
yo mighty i love your videos man
the fact we have to ask that question pretty much sums it up
Mighty just hit the hammer on the nail with people saying it was a boring fight. They just don’t understand MMA or just being biased
Bro you gotta do the analysis for the 3v3 Death Sentence and WingedC vs Somebody Streetbeets video, I can't wait anymore. 🤣🤣🤣😅😅
I need it more than drugs. 🤣
brains versus brawl only works when both fighters have equal levels of brawl, this feels like a cautionary tale.... I was cheering for my fellow brasillian Charles, but damn... Almost any one else in the spot holloway was would have folded in two rounds tops, that man has the hearth of a lion!
1:00 i feel so fckn vindicated ty mighty seeing so many people act like this fight was a fluke is driving me nuts
In my personal opinion I feel like the bmf title should be a stand and bang type fight I get that grappling is a big part of mma but, if you just basically lay on someone for five minutes at a time and get some punches in here and there, I don’t feel like that’s makes you the baddest fighter and the bmf title fight should be a tad different then a regular ufc mma fight
This is bmf round 5 should be standup kick boxing
Charles is just the gatekeeper til the next bmf champ emerges
Legendary refresh pull
He won by making everyone think he was going to do BMF things but instead decided to sleep with a body pillow 😴
Blame max for not knowing how to escape a body lock or defend a takedown from a guy who doesn't have top tier wrestling 😂😂😂
@dim@dimitri-s6h I blame Max for taking a BMF title fight with a non BMF fighter, worse BMF “fight” in history.
@CloudzIX Charles absolutely dominating a BMF makes him BMF, cry more✌️✌️✌️
@Animeslayer_12 keep coping you know you would never pay money over and over to keep seeing that garbage lmao you’re not fooling anyone
@CloudzIXIf that fight was garbage to you then switch up the sports
didn't tune in for a bmf fight like this. They know what to expect when they play golf, was not expecting a fight like this. love them both thought.
Definitely NOT boring. Cheers from an Aussie Mum
"im a sophisticated mma fan and appreciate the art of holding another man down against his will 😏"
They get champ money with that belt so why not have it give my boy charles some more money
The most accurate description I've seen of the BMF belt is that it's equivalent to the T.V Title from WCW. It means absolutely nothing.
Nah first thing off the bat mighty we love jiu jitsu we love wrestling, HOW MANY TIMES IT GOT TO BE SAID, THATS NOT THE ASSIGNMENT OF THE MOTHER FRIKEN BMF BELT!!
not dismissing the nine tailed fox in the same shot
Why does each picture of Max show every single stage of grief he went through while he was getting dominated lol damn mighty you doing my boy max dirty with that bro
Charles should've been challenging for the NMF belt
Nice MF? Yeah, humble too 👊
Uncle mighty, my WW2 grandpa absolutely loved watching you fight back in the early 2000s, as well as my indigenous family. Small, but mighty and persistent beyond the idealisms of being a champion in just the ring.
I think Max should have 100% been training BJJ/Wrestling ! Like shit , send unc to Dagestan for 2-3 months and rebuild his entire core foundation, then re group with his striking game !
Get to chute de box mighty!! Do a training vid with Charles
Love what you said, Demetrious Johnson.
Charles Oliveira poured heart and soul into that fight, technical, relentless, constantly attacking. Unlike others who just lay on top or focus only on takedowns, Charles worked the whole time, showcasing beautiful MMA. This is truly mixed martial arts.
Damn bro at 11:31 you did Holloway dirty leaving that screenshot up as long as you did 😂😂😂
On the bright side, Max also took no damage and can have a faster turnaround
that was like watching Aang remove the firebending from the fire lord at the end of Avatar and folks saying its boring because they didnt watch any other episode and were expecting a kamehameha or something.
Will you do a self defense series were you train w/ and interview a professional who’s dealt with street violence?
The fight was too boring... To Max and his fans!!!! 😂😂😂 Charles smashes!!!
Can’t be a BMF if you can’t defend a takedown and if you can’t get up after being taken down
irmão, o Charles fez melhor que o volka nas primeiras duas lutas contra o Max na decisão que foram bem questionáveis, vai levar um tempo para as pessoas verem o quão impressionante foi essa performance
I get why some people say the fight was boring, but I was on the edge of my seat. I kept thinking that Max was going to get up and do something spectacular to turn the fight around. So for me, the fight wasn't boring, it's just that what I kept anticipating, never really materialized. And even during the few standup exchanges there were, it looked like Charles was getting the better of Max. Definitely not the outcome that I was expecting. But there's no rule that says a BMF fight has to stay on the feet. It is just something that many people have come to expect with these BMF title fights. I'm not sure who planted that narrative, but it is what it is.
The highlight of the night wasn't the striking-it was the centimeter-perfect weight distribution. I almost spilled my drink when Charles slightly shifted his left glute in the third round. Pure, unadulterated 'high-level' adrenaline JOE ROGAN PROBABLY
Most impressive thing about this fight is that max didn't tap
Mannnnn I wish you would go work with Max and make him complete! You’re tha man MightyMouse!
Charles way to damn big to be fighting max
Charles dominated a freaking legend completely: 5x0. That's pretty badass. He wasn't stalling, holding the opponent on the ground and doing nothing, like Chimaev did last fight. On the contrary, Charles was constantly seeking to submit and just didn't because Max is really tough. So, not boring at all if you understand the fight. However that's indeed boring for the casual fan who can't appreciate a masterful performance like this. Also it's real bad for a BMF bout to have the champion crying after getting the belt. That was super lame, such a non-BMF thing to do.
Great job Charles! Mad respect to Max! Mad respect to MM! fuck prizepricks
Charles is a wrestler now. He looked great
We got karl olivierov before GTA 6
That's 80% control Mighty
Do bronx x mighty training🔥
i love the way you say charles olvr
Oliveira babayyyyy
BMF should be different rules. No takedowns, only clinches.
No but they need to make it like a performance bonus, where it’s on the line but if you don’t put on a bad ass fight you walk away the your extra/main event pay but no title
I dont mind a dominant ground control match but for the BMF belt..... Charles all of a sudden turns into a grapple is bullshit. He stood with all the other 155ers. And chooses to grapple a 145er is crazy. What's worst is he didn't even submit Max.
It kills me how much MM defends shitty boring fights
Watch boxing then 😂if you don’t fight or train then I can see why it’s hard to watch
Max got turned into a 8 year old kid on his first day rolling on the mat dude wasn’t a danger at all. Charles was able to slam elbow and go for submissions and max couldn’t even get back to his feet. If you want it all striking go watch boxing or bkfc
Had no idea Charles got Pokémon tattoos 😮
I wanna see mighty mouse train with Poirier, feel like it would be a different kind of one and alot of fun.
Charles elbows were winding up from behind his head Khamzat was throwing baby elbows
Alter the rules, if it's for a BMF title the rule set should be changed to basically a kickboxing match. No grappling or takedowns, its all stand and bang or getting dirty in the clench.
BMF belt is fun but it really is such a gimmick once a grappler fights for it. No dis to Charles, he is a the closest version of a grappler heavy BMF. UFC definitely messed up making this a BMF belt, unless they use it to get fights against people like Masvidal, Conor, or Nate.
I loved the fight Do Bronx is the man
Hey I know the information is still new but I think a video on the Jones and Dana situation is needed about his statement and the truth of the white house card.
I think they outta have a rule for BMF that there needs to be a finish to claim it.
The problem is the name of the Title is BMF so people are expecting a slug fest. Now it just feels more like any other belt where of course a good amount of good wrestlers do very well in. Which we already had plenty of. Still a great fight but not what a lot of people think when it comes to the BMF.
@Troupe_Masterwho’s y’all? You need some internet free time; where are your parents?
@imairwrecked3599obviously you since you replied goofy