Sorry folks, somehow I managed to edit out a crucial piece of information about loading black powder cartridge. There can be no air space between the top of the powder and the bottom of the projectile! In other words the projectile must be seated up against the powder. It’s pretty much the only rule.
Maybe I'm getting really old but there are some flaws. We used a material called Kapok as a filler for black powder cartridge and in light loads in smokeless rifle cartridge. I was raised to never use a charge throwing measure. Friction was the issue. A dipper was the standard. I have only weighed a charge as a back up to verify everything. Last is compression. Forcing black powder too hard can end up with bullets creeping out of the case on the way to go shoot. Same issue with non crimped smokeless loads. Smokeless does not explode in the way Nitro based explosives detonate. It burns very fast but nowhere near something like det cord does. Smokeless powder will still be burning as it leaves even a 26 inch barrel. I've seen 25 foot long cannon with a Nitro compound still belch fire. Black runs around 14,000 psi max. Smokeless will run away above 80,000 that I know of. Big difference in burn characteristics.
@@Michael-rg7mx yes you can use a filler for light loads and we do that quite often. I prefer cream of wheat. I have never had and bullets creep up in a revolver or rifle regardless of compression but I always make a habit of giving my BP rounds a very healthy crimp. As far as the “explosive” power of smokeless I suppose technically it just has a much much faster burn rate but I think the term “explodes” get the point across but feel free to get technical though. As far as high explosive stuff, I have no idea so I’ll take your word for it.
I think the "THIS IS BLACK POWDER" sign should become a real thing, that would be funny as fuck 🤣🤣🤣 It's always the most confident people who are the most wrong about whatever they're talking about. This video was much needed, love the channel, keep it up!
If you don't know the difference between Black powder and smokeless powder, you should either educate yourself on the subject or just buy your ammo. This gentleman KNOWS what he's talking about.
It is utterly amazing and patently ridiculous that anyone working at a gun range or any place that has something to do with firearms doesn't know about black powder cartridges.
I'm pretty sure YT is threatened by Tik Tok so that is why they are pushing the shorts so hard. Also, I think this is the reason they have eased up on demonetizing every dang video like they did just up til about a year ago. But I refuse to do shorts for a few reasons. They don't pay, so why bother. I don't WANT subscribers with a super short attention span who are just going to whine about how I "talk too much" in a regular-length video. If they even bother to watch the video, they are going to skip over the majority of it then ask you questions why you didn't do something that you did. People with short attention-spans (the people who watch shorts) also use ad blocker, so they have no VALUE as a viewer. YT doesn't make any money from shorts either, so it's really a terrible business decision on their part.
I only read half your first sentence cuz I got bored and fell asleep.. But as a YT consumer, I'm obligated to comment with : "you teh dum and wrong about evrytihng evah! ..also yur momma!"
This reminds of Jeff and Gregg over on the Taofledermaus channel dealing with people telling them that there is no such thing as a "rifled shotgun barrel". It just blows me away that in the age of instant information people don't "research before responding". Last night at our get-together we were reminiscing about laser discs and video discs from 80s. Some thought they were the same, including me, others said they were different. Well let's stop arguing and find out, I said, so I researched it. Answer> They are very different.
Those guys you were talking to on the phone are known as fake gun experts. They fail to realize that cartridges such as the 45 Colt, 44-40, and 45-70 were all loaded with black powder. The fact that they're saying "there's no such thing", just proves that they're not real experts.
Dear Everything Black Powder This is a very good and much needed video. A lot of folks today have little understanding of black powder today: not always their fault! Often when knowledge is lacking ,all kinds of ideas begin to take hold. I was fortunate in having been taught 50 years ago about black powder by folks who were well over 50 years old then. They had grown up with it. Be patient and keep up the good work so we can nurture and grow the next generation of black powder enthusiasts. Thank You
Naaaa. Reloading specs suggest compressed smokeless loads all the time. I load compressed smokeless myself quite often. It's in the suppliers books ,load data .
Thanks Ben. I made a couple of ball mill jars out of PVC and replaced my lead media with ceramic balls and it has made a incredible difference in mill time and fouling. Thanks for the video on that. I’ll post my findings as well. Thanks again!
For all those folks who think there was no such thing as a black powder cartridge I have this bit of history for you. The metallic cartridges replaced cap and ball revolvers in the 1870s, and the first black powder cartridge was the 1870 Smith & Wesson model 3. The conversion process generally involved taking the old revolver and cutting off the back of the muzzle loading cylinder, replacing it with a conversion ring that would accept the new sealed breech loading cartridges. The under barrel rammer, not needed to pack balls and powder anymore, was replaced with an ejector rod to push the spent cartridge brass backwards out of the cylinder once fired. A series of new production cylinders, manufactured and added to old stocks of existing Colt parts, was also used. Overall fewer than 25,000 new-built and converted models were made by the factory from 1871-1880. Now smokeless was originally invented in 1884. So by default, all guns prior to 1884 was black powder and shot black powder loads including the 1870 Smith & Wesson Model 3 revolver. That should clear up the argument about black powder cartridges.
Dixie Gun Works used to show one of their octagon rifle barrels with a breech plug installed in each end that was filled from one end to the other with black powder. They lit it off through the touch hole with a piece of fuse. The barrel did not blow up. The entire volume of gas produced had to exit through that touch hole!
Think about that for a second, the barrel just became a very thick fuse burning from one end to the other. This demonstration has as much value as a cheap card trick.
@@jb-xc4oh Are you really that dense? Do the same experiment with a thinner material and it blows up like a pipe bomb. Or substitute modern smokeless powder and it still blows up!
I always assumed the ways black powder and smokeless powder burn in the open air would mimic the environment in which they burn inside a case (or barrel). Makes sense that the opposite burning characteristics occur in both powders though! Also I too have been told many times black powder was never loaded into brass cases.... some people need to invest a little more time into researching history it would seem! :)
They need to do the research if they are going to mess with black powder. Calibers like 30-30 and 45-70 come from black powder. 30 cal bullet over 30 grains of bp, 45 cal over 70 grains of bp.
@@wolfdar2009 Agreed, however I can accurately assume these individuals have never reloaded a round in their lives, nor will they ever. Some people, for whatever reason, enjoy deriving their self-worth and self-respect upon topics which they have little knowledge of. I'm glad we have public knowledge such as this RUclips channel to show others and derive a factual basis for the claims we make about the things we enjoy/respect!
It’s amazing that in an age of instant information people can’t do a little research before responding. Compressed loads aren’t dangerous in smokeless either as long as published data is followed. I use a compressed load in .357 Sig all the time.
I reload smokeless, and I tinker with Black Powder as well. I have a CVA Bobcat Sidelock, and an 1858 Remington New Army revolver that I make combustible paper cartridges for. I also have a Taylors And Company 45Colt conversion cylinder for it that I only just started reloading for (I only have access to pyrodex ATM, but I'm thinking of making my own powder, eventually) Screw The Haters, the Know-Nothings, and Safety-Rangers. they do not know as much as they think they know. btw, that over the shoulder shot was pretty good, man. *thumbs up*
The big thing about black powder is you can do it yourself and make everything you need to have and shoot a firearm. They are always trying to ban things but the information is out there so even if they ban guns well to bad for them we can make our own everthing.
I make my own black powder, load my own primers and cast my own bullets. It is so much fun!! I have loaded black powder .223 to shoot in a single shot rifle. Subsonic, of course, but it is fun and as accurate as any other subsonic .223 loads I have shot.
If memory serves, only about 25% of the mass of BP converts to gas whereas nearly 100% of most smokeless does. For quick reference, looking at my Speer #14 manual, max listed for a .45 Colt (Colt SAA 5.5") using a 250 grn. LSWC is 9.5 grn of Unique for 941 fps. 40 grn of 3F should be about the same speed performance. The important thing is that in both cases pushing the bullet down the barrel is the path of least resistance for the gas to escape. Normally, pushing the bullet down the barrel happens long before the yield strength of the cylinder/chamber is reached and we are all happy. With BP cartridges/guns one runs out of volumetric capacity for the propellant long before the yield strength of the steel. That said, a double charge in a muzzle loader is possible and a bad thing or 40 grns of Unique in .45 Colt really really bad! Point is, these things were worked out long before any of us were born. Given a few simple rules Black Powder is much more forgiving then smokeless. (Maybe we can get Kentucky Ballistics to try a .30-378 Weatherby with all the FFg it can hold but who will pony up the money destroy a nice gun.......lol). As for BP being obsolete, not at all, NASA and the military still use it. Y'all live well and shoot happy!
ThinkingBill: You will not get enough black powder into any sound percussion revolver to cause damage on firing, the only way you can cause damage is to fire one in a blocked barel, Walker cylinders in 1847 blew up because the material the cylinders were made from was of inferior quality to todays steel, there are many videos showing muzzle loader firing a complete barrel full of black powder, although the stock was broken, the barrel remained intact, but to load that much into a barrel would be done by only an idiot, or as an experiment.
What about rifle smokeless powder in a modern replica black powder revolver? Rifle smokeless "burns slower." I mean as a hypothetical possibility, or is it definitely no chance of ever being safe/useful so _"don't even bother buying the books and examining the math and pressure curves"_ ..? How would this compare to conversion cylinders firing modern smokeless cartridges?
@@Dr_Wrong There are BP to Smokeless loads listed in "manuals" tested in proper labs for cartridges. What overlap between smokeless & BP to my knowledge has never been tested fully and is probably not possible under all circumstances. Their behaviors are so different that I don't think you will find a hard & fast conversion table for say 3F & IMR-4227. Pistol or Rifle, "Fast" or "Slow" are misleading descriptions. Consider the design too. In a BP revolver such as a Colt 1860 or even a Ruger Old Army, the nipple is a cone threaded and unsupported part. How much pressure does it take to rip the threads out? The upshot here, if your gun is marked "Black Powder Only" stick with that, the manufacturers recommendations. The experiment isn't worth risking fingers & eyes. Regarding conversion cylinders from C&B to CF revolvers, again, consider unsupported pipe thread vs a solid steel back plate (recoil shield).
F em Jake, we like the trick shots, especially with BP. How about doing the classic split a round ball on an axe head, with a modern twist of a sensitive tannerite charge one each side!
And to think that the original cartridge for the 1903 Springfield was filled with black powder. It switched to smokeless powder in 1906, hence the cartridge 30 cal 1906, or cartridge .30-06 Springfield. But there are many armchair experts who know everything about nothing... And love to loudly tell everyone else how wrong they are!
Search up smokeless powder, there is great videos about its introduction on RUclips. A lot of factories exploded with the tinkering with nitroglycerin and nitrocellulose for smokeless powder…I digress
@@RealDeanWinchester there's a lot of manual actions too that do terrible ballistically with bp because the cartridges were meant exclusively for smokeless powder.
The reason indoor ranges don't allow black powder is because the way it burns. It can ignite the smokeless powder that has accumulated in front of the firing line. This smokeless powder is the result of unburnt powder that has falled to the ground a few feet in front of the shooters. This is why fires at indoor ranges are common.
Interesting. I haven't been to a public range since my friend witnessed a poor unfortunate(subjective description) shoot himself in the gut while twirling a revolver.
Man I hope you keep the content coming. Don't let the (super intelligent) stop you and the amazing information you provide to the rest of us normal folks. Keep up the great work my friend
I feel your pain, But it is a fact that you just can’t fix the stupid, no pill, no drink, It is forever… keep up the Great videos, look forward to seeing more Smoke 😎😎
Something that a lot of people don't realize, when commercial blackpowder makers "polish" their powder, they're adding graphite and then tumble it. That's the "g" in FFg. The carbon molecules (aka graphite) fill the pores and make the powder shiny. It also prevents humidity and sparks from static electricity from the granules. Unpolished black powder (like what they used before the 1850's when the British started doing it) will suck up humidity a lot worse (making it heavier) and can be sensitive to static electricity.
Thank you! Great teaching .There is an amazing guy " Real gunsmith" real profesionist,50 years experience,,who would happy to confirm everything you said.He has explained the importance of burning vs exploding in accuracy issues.
omg! MY bro from another mother? Watched you corn near a two poster, I use a contraption welded On mine for same? My office walls are "painted" plywood with notes! and SAME selfs and hardwhare, AND Scale? Three beers and I Do BELIEVE the Space Time could be Disturbed? I do Not "think it sucked" and I am to Lazy to make my own Darn Video! Keep Your Smoke Poles SMOKING! KEEP on Chassing the DRAGON! God Bless!
I enjoy your channel, don't dwell too much on comments. The "RUclips Lifeguards" will always try to save your life, even before you get in the pool! Those who don't know firearms history or math will struggle with your concepts.
@@Everythingblackpowder Your content is excellent! I've been shooting and hunting with blackpowder for 35 years. We do a lot of the same things. As you know, metallurgy, the transitional guns like the Colt 1873, and legal liability are hard for people to wrap their heads around. Cowboy Action protocol muddied the waters too. You actually are helping to clarify reality for your audience. Blackpowder weapons are outstanding, and many are much better built today. Especially percussion revolvers. Keep doing what you are doing. I'll be watching.
They didn’t make black powder cartridges huh what. The Spencer, Brunside civil war carbines all the old west handgun, rifle and shotguns were black powder which I know you know some people are freaking idiots great videos man! 👍
They just want something to complain about. And the safety police, oh my goodness, if they had every seen me working. They would have had a heart attack. I have watched a lot of your videos. I like them and I'm thinking about getting into some black powder firearms. and also making my own black powder. Keep up the great videos.
Sir, very much enjoy your videos. Very informative, occasionally humourous. I realize that I might be preaching to the choir, but a reminder to others, " never underestimate the amount of blatant stupidity amount the population at large" and " y'all just cannot fix stupid". Those 2 facts never ceases to amaze me. Well done, sir, well done! Keep up the good work.
I have watched probably 10 to 15 of your videos so far and this is the first time I realized you are loading black powder. Man! you are really tickling the tail of the dragon with that stuff!!
Thanks for sharing this man, it can be so complicated to try to make a video about anything. It's hard to factor in EVERY interpretation a viewer could have, let alone keep it watchable/ enjoyable.
Black powder has been around for centuries. Smokeless started appearing in the late 1880s. Metallic cartridges began appearing in the 1860s. The first PCC was the Winchester 1873 lever action, chambered in .45 Long Colt (the same as the Colt Peacemaker revolver). The original .45 Long Colt was black powder at that time. To paraphrase Abraham Lincoln: better to seem the fool than to blow up the comments and remove all doubt. Love the channel. Keep doing you and ignore the fools.
check your 1873 Winchester statement.. the rim was too small at the time for extractors.. the modern is a different case than the original..and metallic cartridges were around before the 60s.
Original Winchester 1873s were not chambered in 45 Colt. It was mostly 44-40 and 38-40. I think it was in the 1980s when they started making them in 45 Colt
Good morning, I am writing to you from Argentina in South America. I loved your videos, the thing is that there are many of us who started to make our own black gunpowder and that's why RUclips brought us your videos once we were already advanced on the subject.
I've always compressed my BP loads and I'm still alive! I'm 50 and none of my antiques over 150 yrs old rifle, shotguns, carbine or revolvers didn't blow-up! Lucky, I guess! Last time I went with my 1863 Burnside at the range ( with the white /transparent) nylon cases and a guy got curious, came to me to ask me about my carbine and saw rhe cartridges and said be careful the powder seems pretty compressed! I told him there's how I load my my cartridge, very light load, 40 grains of 2F BP, a felt wad and the bullet! Not a very fast bullet but very accurate on the target!
I was doing some black powder 45 Colt for a modern 1892 lever gun, and someone said i would overpressure it because I was using FFFG instead of FFG through a rifle.... designed for smokeless powder lmao
lol yeah there’s a lot of nonsense out there on this topic. I saw your video where you were talking about how people don’t know that black powder was loaded in cartridges. I’m always surprised how often I hear people say that.
A lot of guys are shooting BP, because of cost on primers. May be why Yer Views went up. You are ahead of the game, Man! I figured on switching to BP, as soon as the primer shortage showed up. Didn't realize it was gonna be such a good move.
So, first off. Love your content. I subscribed a short while ago as I’m getting back into reloading and am embracing black powder. That said, let me just say I feel for you with the interweb blasting you. Most of them are morons that shouldn’t be allowed to use a computer let alone firearms (modern or otherwise). I have learned a ton both from the university of YT and “legitimate” sources. You have been clear, concise, consistent and comical. I really wasn’t shooting for all “c” words it just happened and well the other c word describes most of your critics (I really can’t help myself). Keep up the conversation and content (see?), and someday I might just make my own damn video and give you a nod. Thanks again.
While I have never loaded a brass case with black power I have shot many rounds out of a cap and ball revolver. You want black power to be compressed to ensure smooth deflagrate and prevent overpressure and hang fires. if you don't use enough black power to fill the cylinder you have to use a filler .
I do enjoy your videos that I have seen. I have been shooting Black powder since the late 60's mostly muzzle loaders. I do understand and trust you info. Thank you for trying to teach me people.
I just watched the short you reference in this video, it's probably the most informative short I've yet seen. Most shorts are the video equivalent of shaking car keys at a baby.
I made a video on making charcoal that went viral. The amount of people who have told me “you didnt make charcoal, just char” is mind boggling. There is also a mind boggling amount of people who have no clue what charcoal is/can be used for. Edit: I usually just reply to them: “thanks for feeding the algorithm”
I like having the home brew black powder option. I like seeing the many unconventional usages in modern cases. I would love to see a load data book using BP as the propellant.
reloading with real Gunpowder ( What DuPont calls it) is simple . Fill case to bullet base, seat bullet, crimp tightly and shoot. That is what I am doing with the .38 Short Colt cartridges right now.
I am starting to get involved in black powder. When my good friend passed 2 months ago he left me to sell all his firearms for his wife. I bought 2 bp revolvers and can't wait to try them out. After watching you I learned how to make my black powder. I finally have all the ingredients, now I just have to mix them. I am a gunsmith, for over 25 years, and starting to get out of the business with the exception of family, friends and me. I'm just tired of dealing with some people. I find that making my charcoal, out of grape vine, was fun. Thank You for your videos. I am learning an awful lot and also find them very entertaining. Two Feathers
I finally shot my first mix of powder. I over worked it and it shot great. Best part is that I didn't get the foul order of sulfur. It smelled more like firecrackers and smelt good. Plus the smoke was a lot less that pyrodex at 85 grains in my rifle.
I load .45 Colt with blackpowder and often substitute with Pyrodex or Triple 7, because they're substitutes...40 grains. The Walkers were also made with zero quality control. It's also been hinted that not all of the Walkers reported damaged were actually stolen.
I've got a brother-in-law whom thinks it's dangerous to shoot a modern produced Davide Pedersoli 1874 Q Model in 45, 3 and 1/4 with black powder. Bring homemade into the mix he scolds me . 🙄 He was taught black powder is an explosive. But at the same time he sees me using it with great effect as it was intended. A simple Lyman home cast 535 brain bullet. But he still thinks it's dangerous! Even though I show him the physical evidence of what the primer looks like in as well as the little to no case stretching. He refuses to shoulder it himself. But at the same time is amazed of what it can do 🤷
For the morons saying black powder is only measured volumetrically, they need to be reminded that Lee makes volumetric measures for smokeless, the little yellow dippers. Some peoples kids, keep up the great work.
Nitrocellulose is a very interesting explosive. However, in the form of gun cotton, it does not seem to me to have better performance compared to a good black powder. On the other hand, if the gun cotton is gelatinized and dried, a material that burns much more slowly but with greater density is obtained. This apparently more harmless material, when ignited inside the cartridge, develops higher pressures, since it has a much higher detonation speed than black powder.
Gun cotton (Nitrocellulose) is a high explosive far more energetic and powerful than black powder. The gelatinized gun cotton you mention is Cordite which was used as a propellant in cartridges, it had a burn rate similar to IMR 3031. Cordite was a mixture of nitrocellulose, nitroglycerine, vaseline and acetone for a solvent, its basically referred to today as a double based propellant. Smokeless gun powder does not detonate, it has a specific pressure time curve tailored to a range of applications.
A lot of people just can't learn or unlearn and enjoy something that someone makes with blood sweat and tears bro. Keep doing what you're doing 🎯👌 Your vid has explained to me the fuse difference in an ariel shell firework, ie black match, the first 50mm that one lights and the quickmatch which is the 450mm that goes to the lift charge. The difference between the two is only the paper sheath that surrounds the quickmatch. The black match is approx a 5 to 7 second burn time but as soon as it enters the paper sheath/quickmatch it's instant ignition. Cheers to you
There are a lot of misconceptions regarding black powder and weight, grains is a measure of mass (weight), in fact BP is made with natural ingredients and does not degrade over time when properly stored.
I was watching and listening and the epiphany hit me .... the negativity is not coming from it being a different kind of powder ..... IT'S BECAUSE IT'S BLACK! 🤣😂😉
So many brass cartridges that are loading instructions. The 30-30 was 30 cal bullet over 30 grains of black powder, 45-70 45 cal bullet over 70 grains of black powder.
I like your videos. I agree with you about black powder. Its an excellent, very safe powder to use in brass cartridges. I like it so much that if i could only have one powder i would pick black powder because of its safety and wide applications. It truely is a universal cartridge powder, with the exceptuons of gas operated rifles like ARs or AKs. You can measure your charge by weight, thats alright. Not everybody does that, but whatever works is fine. Keep up the good work, and dont let the viewers frusterate you.
Even people without youtube channels that says black powder get the same comments about black powder cartridge. I need to look back at your videos but I would like to see a video on loading 45-70 black powder cartridge with a drop tube. Thanks
A similar behavior occurs with Research Development Explosive (RDX). When this material is ignited, it burns much slower than black powder, but with a brighter flame and smokeless. It sounds harmless, but if you trigger it with a detonator, it takes less than 30g to break a 1cm thick steel plate. The noise produced by the detonation is also much louder and is heard over a kilometer, despite the small amount used.
Yea I’m one of the new guys. I’m also newer to reloading and seeing the ability to load cartridges with alternative powders such as black powder/black powder substitute is neat. Keep up the good work.
You Go, brother. I've been shooting black powder for years both in muzzle loaders and cartridge and I can tell you that a lot of muzzle loaders don't understand loading cartridge in BP. My comment about BP cartridge is that most of the loading articles seem to have a touch of voodoo in them. Grease cookies, corn meal filler, primers and lube. Miss a target at 400 meters and the first thing someone ask is what kind of lube are you using? You tell them and they slowly shake their head and say well that's your problem! Now, don't get me wrong all those separate components have their place in certain conditions. Simple turns out to be best for consistency. In my humble opinion!
Ok I got to tell that's some funny ass stuff there! To think a channel named everything black powder would load a original black powder cartridge with black powder. Who'd of guessed? The only thing I would add is that the only way to load black powder wrong is Air pockets. like the fact you brought up in an earlier video Elmer Keith and black powder. I fancy myself a Elmer Keith of the cap and ball revolver, and designed my own line of bullets for said revolvers in all three calibers. Designed for maximum impact. This started with me back in the 1980's when I was using (ironically enough) 240 grain Elmer keith bullets moulded for a gas check out of my Remington new model army. As it was my grizzly country sidearm.
Thank you. I know I mentioned the airspace issue with BP but I must have edited it out. Shame on me. As you said, it’s pretty much the only rule with black powder.
You should do a series comparing original 1890s black powder loadings against modern smokeless loadings. If you search for UMC Ammunition Catalogs, the cartridge collectors association has uploaded copies of these original catalogs. On them they show original loadings in both projectile and charge weight for a bunch of original cartridges. Would love to see you compare them, especially once you learn there were four different factory loadings for 45 Colt
I tried posting the charges in my comment, but youtube flags the numbers as sp@m for some reason. But basically there was a full service forty grain load, a thirtyfive grain reduced service load, a twentyeight grain schofield equivalent load, and a seven grain round ball gallery load for indoor practice. Would also love to see you compare original 38 Special with a twentyone grain in load of 3F against modern smokeless loadings, as well as other cartridges like the WCF bottleneck cartridges or the 32 or 44 caliber smith and wesson cartridges. People forget these were first loaded in black powder before being changed to smokeless The 1905 UMC catalog shows all of these and has handy pictures showing you how they were loaded - for example, the gallery loads were seated in the ball inside the case!
@@Everythingblackpowder A cool idea for some shorts videos to would be to directly compare the modern Remington UMC smokeless against original UMC black powder loads. I think it would be cool to show side by side the UMC black powder catalog against the modern remington UMC box, and then chronographing to see how the UMC black powder loads are surprisingly more powerful than many of the modern liability lawyer smokeless loads, especially for calibers like 38 special.
Man I'm glad you came across with Al Gore's rhythm! Been loving the channel and just happened to start loading my first bp cartridge rifle which id love to see you go over one day! -41 Swiss Vetterli center fire conversion-highly recommended, accurate ,and super entertaining to shoot
Smokeless powder has a burn rate, which is measured differently in different types of smokeless powder. But it does have a burn great. It also depending on the speed of that rate has a pressure curve but they are both propellants smokeless powder however make so much better explosive when you contain it in something that where it is not pushing a projectile it is not automatically an explosive
Sorry folks, somehow I managed to edit out a crucial piece of information about loading black powder cartridge. There can be no air space between the top of the powder and the bottom of the projectile! In other words the projectile must be seated up against the powder. It’s pretty much the only rule.
BUT THAT VOID DOSNT HAVE TO BE MORE POWDER, FILLERS CAN BE USED CORRECT,??
Correct. I’m working on a video about that right now
@@Everythingblackpowder :D nice
i love my 10gr with filler on top mouse-fart loads xD
Maybe I'm getting really old but there are some flaws. We used a material called Kapok as a filler for black powder cartridge and in light loads in smokeless rifle cartridge.
I was raised to never use a charge throwing measure. Friction was the issue. A dipper was the standard. I have only weighed a charge as a back up to verify everything.
Last is compression. Forcing black powder too hard can end up with bullets creeping out of the case on the way to go shoot. Same issue with non crimped smokeless loads.
Smokeless does not explode in the way Nitro based explosives detonate. It burns very fast but nowhere near something like det cord does. Smokeless powder will still be burning as it leaves even a 26 inch barrel. I've seen 25 foot long cannon with a Nitro compound still belch fire. Black runs around 14,000 psi max. Smokeless will run away above 80,000 that I know of. Big difference in burn characteristics.
@@Michael-rg7mx yes you can use a filler for light loads and we do that quite often. I prefer cream of wheat. I have never had and bullets creep up in a revolver or rifle regardless of compression but I always make a habit of giving my BP rounds a very healthy crimp. As far as the “explosive” power of smokeless I suppose technically it just has a much much faster burn rate but I think the term “explodes” get the point across but feel free to get technical though. As far as high explosive stuff, I have no idea so I’ll take your word for it.
All pre 1886 brass or copper cased ammo was blackpowder loaded. This is what happens when all your gun knowledge if from video games
I think the "THIS IS BLACK POWDER" sign should become a real thing, that would be funny as fuck 🤣🤣🤣 It's always the most confident people who are the most wrong about whatever they're talking about. This video was much needed, love the channel, keep it up!
Thank you
If I can find it, I have a programmable led sign ide donate, just to see that.
If you don't know the difference between Black powder and smokeless powder, you should either educate yourself on the subject or just buy your ammo. This gentleman KNOWS what he's talking about.
It is utterly amazing and patently ridiculous that anyone working at a gun range or any place that has something to do with firearms doesn't know about black powder cartridges.
Ridiculous indeed! Apparently knowing firearms history isn’t a qualification
Finally someone that understands the difference between black powder and smokeless!
The reason your short videos took off so much is because of me. Pretty sure ive watched em' all like 1000 times.
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I'm pretty sure YT is threatened by Tik Tok so that is why they are pushing the shorts so hard. Also, I think this is the reason they have eased up on demonetizing every dang video like they did just up til about a year ago. But I refuse to do shorts for a few reasons. They don't pay, so why bother. I don't WANT subscribers with a super short attention span who are just going to whine about how I "talk too much" in a regular-length video. If they even bother to watch the video, they are going to skip over the majority of it then ask you questions why you didn't do something that you did. People with short attention-spans (the people who watch shorts) also use ad blocker, so they have no VALUE as a viewer. YT doesn't make any money from shorts either, so it's really a terrible business decision on their part.
To be fair, Jeff (jef, jeph, geoff.. ive never seen it written) even the folks who do watch the whole video are going to ask stupid questions. 😁
I only read half your first sentence cuz I got bored and fell asleep.. But as a YT consumer, I'm obligated to comment with : "you teh dum and wrong about evrytihng evah! ..also yur momma!"
This reminds of Jeff and Gregg over on the Taofledermaus channel dealing with people telling them that there is no such thing as a "rifled shotgun barrel". It just blows me away that in the age of instant information people don't "research before responding". Last night at our get-together we were reminiscing about laser discs and video discs from 80s. Some thought they were the same, including me, others said they were different. Well let's stop arguing and find out, I said, so I researched it. Answer> They are very different.
Those guys you were talking to on the phone are known as fake gun experts. They fail to realize that cartridges such as the 45 Colt, 44-40, and 45-70 were all loaded with black powder. The fact that they're saying "there's no such thing", just proves that they're not real experts.
Dear Everything Black Powder This is a very good and much needed video. A lot of folks today have little understanding of black powder today: not always their fault! Often when knowledge is lacking ,all kinds of ideas begin to take hold. I was fortunate in having been taught 50 years ago about black powder by folks who were well over 50 years old then. They had grown up with it. Be patient and keep up the good work so we can nurture and grow the next generation of black powder enthusiasts. Thank You
I’m working on it
Naaaa. Reloading specs suggest compressed smokeless loads all the time. I load compressed smokeless myself quite often. It's in the suppliers books ,load data .
LOL! Got to love the "Safety Marshall's" Could not make the videos with out them. Good job Jake!
Thanks Ben. I made a couple of ball mill jars out of PVC and replaced my lead media with ceramic balls and it has made a incredible difference in mill time and fouling. Thanks for the video on that. I’ll post my findings as well. Thanks again!
@@Everythingblackpowder Awesome! I was surprised to how much of a difference it made.
For all those folks who think there was no such thing as a black powder cartridge I have this bit of history for you. The metallic cartridges replaced cap and ball revolvers in the 1870s, and the first black powder cartridge was the 1870 Smith & Wesson model 3. The conversion process generally involved taking the old revolver and cutting off the back of the muzzle loading cylinder, replacing it with a conversion ring that would accept the new sealed breech loading cartridges. The under barrel rammer, not needed to pack balls and powder anymore, was replaced with an ejector rod to push the spent cartridge brass backwards out of the cylinder once fired. A series of new production cylinders, manufactured and added to old stocks of existing Colt parts, was also used. Overall fewer than 25,000 new-built and converted models were made by the factory from 1871-1880. Now smokeless was originally invented in 1884. So by default, all guns prior to 1884 was black powder and shot black powder loads including the 1870 Smith & Wesson Model 3 revolver. That should clear up the argument about black powder cartridges.
That "like and subscribe" written in black powder was just awesome.
Totally deserve huge appreciation brother
Thank you
WOW!!! Is correct!! My brother in law always said, “It don’t take all kinds, we just got’em!”
Great videos!!
Lol! well said. Thank you
Dixie Gun Works used to show one of their octagon rifle barrels with a breech plug installed in each end that was filled from one end to the other with black powder. They lit it off through the touch hole with a piece of fuse. The barrel did not blow up. The entire volume of gas produced had to exit through that touch hole!
Think about that for a second, the barrel just became a very thick fuse burning from one end to the other. This demonstration has as much value as a cheap card trick.
@@jb-xc4oh Are you really that dense? Do the same experiment with a thinner material and it blows up like a pipe bomb. Or substitute modern smokeless powder and it still blows up!
I woud like to see a velocity comparison using equal amounts of 1, 2, 3 and 4F grades of bp in 45 Colt. Keep up the good work.
I always assumed the ways black powder and smokeless powder burn in the open air would mimic the environment in which they burn inside a case (or barrel). Makes sense that the opposite burning characteristics occur in both powders though! Also I too have been told many times black powder was never loaded into brass cases.... some people need to invest a little more time into researching history it would seem! :)
They need to do the research if they are going to mess with black powder. Calibers like 30-30 and 45-70 come from black powder. 30 cal bullet over 30 grains of bp, 45 cal over 70 grains of bp.
@@wolfdar2009 Agreed, however I can accurately assume these individuals have never reloaded a round in their lives, nor will they ever. Some people, for whatever reason, enjoy deriving their self-worth and self-respect upon topics which they have little knowledge of. I'm glad we have public knowledge such as this RUclips channel to show others and derive a factual basis for the claims we make about the things we enjoy/respect!
Thank you for your great work informing people like me, who whish to really understand what is myth and what's possible. Cordialement John Atkins.
Also you have a great sense of humour. 😂
It’s amazing that in an age of instant information people can’t do a little research before responding. Compressed loads aren’t dangerous in smokeless either as long as published data is followed. I use a compressed load in .357 Sig all the time.
I reload smokeless, and I tinker with Black Powder as well. I have a CVA Bobcat Sidelock, and an 1858 Remington New Army revolver that I make combustible paper cartridges for. I also have a Taylors And Company 45Colt conversion cylinder for it that I only just started reloading for (I only have access to pyrodex ATM, but I'm thinking of making my own powder, eventually)
Screw The Haters, the Know-Nothings, and Safety-Rangers. they do not know as much as they think they know.
btw, that over the shoulder shot was pretty good, man. *thumbs up*
Thank you
Great content! People have WAY too much free time nowadays and stupidity is rampant. Keep up the good work!
The big thing about black powder is you can do it yourself and make everything you need to have and shoot a firearm. They are always trying to ban things but the information is out there so even if they ban guns well to bad for them we can make our own everthing.
I make my own black powder, load my own primers and cast my own bullets. It is so much fun!! I have loaded black powder .223 to shoot in a single shot rifle. Subsonic, of course, but it is fun and as accurate as any other subsonic .223 loads I have shot.
If memory serves, only about 25% of the mass of BP converts to gas whereas nearly 100% of most smokeless does. For quick reference, looking at my Speer #14 manual, max listed for a .45 Colt (Colt SAA 5.5") using a 250 grn. LSWC is 9.5 grn of Unique for 941 fps. 40 grn of 3F should be about the same speed performance. The important thing is that in both cases pushing the bullet down the barrel is the path of least resistance for the gas to escape. Normally, pushing the bullet down the barrel happens long before the yield strength of the cylinder/chamber is reached and we are all happy. With BP cartridges/guns one runs out of volumetric capacity for the propellant long before the yield strength of the steel. That said, a double charge in a muzzle loader is possible and a bad thing or 40 grns of Unique in .45 Colt really really bad! Point is, these things were worked out long before any of us were born. Given a few simple rules Black Powder is much more forgiving then smokeless. (Maybe we can get Kentucky Ballistics to try a .30-378 Weatherby with all the FFg it can hold but who will pony up the money destroy a nice gun.......lol). As for BP being obsolete, not at all, NASA and the military still use it. Y'all live well and shoot happy!
My 40gr 3f 250gr lfp load runs 1050fps
ThinkingBill: You will not get enough black powder into any sound percussion revolver to cause damage on firing, the only way you can cause damage is to fire one in a blocked barel, Walker cylinders in 1847 blew up because the material the cylinders were made from was of inferior quality to todays steel, there are many videos showing muzzle loader firing a complete barrel full of black powder, although the stock was broken, the barrel remained intact, but to load that much into a barrel would be done by only an idiot, or as an experiment.
What about rifle smokeless powder in a modern replica black powder revolver?
Rifle smokeless "burns slower."
I mean as a hypothetical possibility, or is it definitely no chance of ever being safe/useful so _"don't even bother buying the books and examining the math and pressure curves"_ ..?
How would this compare to conversion cylinders firing modern smokeless cartridges?
@@Dr_Wrong There are BP to Smokeless loads listed in "manuals" tested in proper labs for cartridges. What overlap between smokeless & BP to my knowledge has never been tested fully and is probably not possible under all circumstances. Their behaviors are so different that I don't think you will find a hard & fast conversion table for say 3F & IMR-4227. Pistol or Rifle, "Fast" or "Slow" are misleading descriptions. Consider the design too. In a BP revolver such as a Colt 1860 or even a Ruger Old Army, the nipple is a cone threaded and unsupported part. How much pressure does it take to rip the threads out? The upshot here, if your gun is marked "Black Powder Only" stick with that, the manufacturers recommendations. The experiment isn't worth risking fingers & eyes. Regarding conversion cylinders from C&B to CF revolvers, again, consider unsupported pipe thread vs a solid steel back plate (recoil shield).
@@thinkingbill1304
Okay, thanks for the info!
F em Jake, we like the trick shots, especially with BP. How about doing the classic split a round ball on an axe head, with a modern twist of a sensitive tannerite charge one each side!
Lol that would be entertaining
Live in UK. I think your channel and your attention to detail is superb. Long may you post.
Thank you
And to think that the original cartridge for the 1903 Springfield was filled with black powder.
It switched to smokeless powder in 1906, hence the cartridge 30 cal 1906, or cartridge .30-06 Springfield.
But there are many armchair experts who know everything about nothing... And love to loudly tell everyone else how wrong they are!
I get what your saying. Some comments really make me wonder if they even watched the video.
Thank you bro you are so right I use 30 231 grains of black powder in my 44 caliber pietta 1858 new army pistol keep up the good work
I thought all cartridges were loaded with black powder. You're telling me they aren't?
Search up smokeless powder, there is great videos about its introduction on RUclips. A lot of factories exploded with the tinkering with nitroglycerin and nitrocellulose for smokeless powder…I digress
A lot of guns wouldn't work with black powder.
@@gunslingerfromwish4656 oh yeah, name one.
@@RealDeanWinchester Any gas operated semi auto.
@@RealDeanWinchester there's a lot of manual actions too that do terrible ballistically with bp because the cartridges were meant exclusively for smokeless powder.
Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. - Mark Twain
That is true!
The reason indoor ranges don't allow black powder is because the way it burns. It can ignite the smokeless powder that has accumulated in front of the firing line. This smokeless powder is the result of unburnt powder that has falled to the ground a few feet in front of the shooters. This is why fires at indoor ranges are common.
Interesting. I haven't been to a public range since my friend witnessed a poor unfortunate(subjective description) shoot himself in the gut while twirling a revolver.
More often it is because the air handling system can not deal with the volume of smoke produced in any kind of an efficient way
Love your channel and your attitude. Keep on with awesomeness.
Thank you
Man I hope you keep the content coming. Don't let the (super intelligent) stop you and the amazing information you provide to the rest of us normal folks. Keep up the great work my friend
Thank you
I feel your pain, But it is a fact that you just can’t fix the stupid, no pill, no drink, It is forever… keep up the Great videos, look forward to seeing more Smoke 😎😎
Something that a lot of people don't realize, when commercial blackpowder makers "polish" their powder, they're adding graphite and then tumble it. That's the "g" in FFg. The carbon molecules (aka graphite) fill the pores and make the powder shiny. It also prevents humidity and sparks from static electricity from the granules. Unpolished black powder (like what they used before the 1850's when the British started doing it) will suck up humidity a lot worse (making it heavier) and can be sensitive to static electricity.
Thank you!
Great teaching .There is an amazing guy " Real gunsmith" real profesionist,50 years experience,,who would happy to confirm everything you said.He has explained the importance of burning vs exploding in accuracy issues.
I have found out that a lot of people can't comprehend what they read or hear.
That explains a lot
omg! MY bro from another mother? Watched you corn near a two poster, I use a contraption welded On mine for same?
My office walls are "painted" plywood with notes! and SAME selfs and hardwhare, AND Scale? Three beers and I Do BELIEVE the Space Time could be Disturbed? I do Not "think it sucked" and I am to Lazy to make my own Darn Video!
Keep Your Smoke Poles SMOKING!
KEEP on Chassing the DRAGON!
God Bless!
I enjoy your channel, don't dwell too much on comments. The "RUclips Lifeguards" will always try to save your life, even before you get in the pool! Those who don't know firearms history or math will struggle with your concepts.
Thank you
@@Everythingblackpowder Your content is excellent! I've been shooting and hunting with blackpowder for 35 years. We do a lot of the same things. As you know, metallurgy, the transitional guns like the Colt 1873, and legal liability are hard for people to wrap their heads around. Cowboy Action protocol muddied the waters too. You actually are helping to clarify reality for your audience. Blackpowder weapons are outstanding, and many are much better built today. Especially percussion revolvers. Keep doing what you are doing. I'll be watching.
They didn’t make black powder cartridges huh what. The Spencer, Brunside civil war carbines all the old west handgun, rifle and shotguns were black powder which I know you know some people are freaking idiots great videos man! 👍
They just want something to complain about. And the safety police, oh my goodness, if they had every seen me working. They would have had a heart attack.
I have watched a lot of your videos. I like them and I'm thinking about getting into some black powder firearms. and also making my own black powder. Keep up the great videos.
Thank you
I just cracked up at 6:50 to 7:00
Love this video
Sir, very much enjoy your videos. Very informative, occasionally humourous. I realize that I might be preaching to the choir, but a reminder to others, " never underestimate the amount of blatant stupidity amount the population at large" and " y'all just cannot fix stupid". Those 2 facts never ceases to amaze me. Well done, sir, well done! Keep up the good work.
Black powder deflagrates. I have made both .577 Snider & .577-450 Martini Henry BP cartridges. These are both big honkin cartridges.
Black powder deflagrates when unconfined......however in quantities of 500 pounds or more it will detonate when unconfined.
Thanks for the information. This kind of stuff fascinates me.
Happy to help
I have watched probably 10 to 15 of your videos so far and this is the first time I realized you are loading black powder. Man! you are really tickling the tail of the dragon with that stuff!!
Thanks for sharing this man, it can be so complicated to try to make a video about anything. It's hard to factor in EVERY interpretation a viewer could have, let alone keep it watchable/ enjoyable.
If anything it’s good for a laugh
Black powder has been around for centuries. Smokeless started appearing in the late 1880s. Metallic cartridges began appearing in the 1860s. The first PCC was the Winchester 1873 lever action, chambered in .45 Long Colt (the same as the Colt Peacemaker revolver). The original .45 Long Colt was black powder at that time. To paraphrase Abraham Lincoln: better to seem the fool than to blow up the comments and remove all doubt.
Love the channel. Keep doing you and ignore the fools.
check your 1873 Winchester statement.. the rim was too small at the time for extractors.. the modern is a different case than the original..and metallic cartridges were around before the 60s.
Original Winchester 1873s were not chambered in 45 Colt. It was mostly 44-40 and 38-40. I think it was in the 1980s when they started making them in 45 Colt
@@OntarioBearHunter I do apologize, it was the .44-40 rimfire, not the .45 LC. I stand corrected.
Love the videos. Don’t let a bunch of karens that think they know it all influence you in any way. Keep rolling them out.
Good morning, I am writing to you from Argentina in South America. I loved your videos, the thing is that there are many of us who started to make our own black gunpowder and that's why RUclips brought us your videos once we were already advanced on the subject.
Glad to hear it
Sulfur or sulfurless?
@@Joshua_N-A Sulfuro of couse
This brings to mind Carl Sagan’s statements on the dangers of not questioning Technology.
I've always compressed my BP loads and I'm still alive! I'm 50 and none of my antiques over 150 yrs old rifle, shotguns, carbine or revolvers didn't blow-up! Lucky, I guess! Last time I went with my 1863 Burnside at the range ( with the white /transparent) nylon cases and a guy got curious, came to me to ask me about my carbine and saw rhe cartridges and said be careful the powder seems pretty compressed! I told him there's how I load my my cartridge, very light load, 40 grains of 2F BP, a felt wad and the bullet! Not a very fast bullet but very accurate on the target!
I was doing some black powder 45 Colt for a modern 1892 lever gun, and someone said i would overpressure it because I was using FFFG instead of FFG through a rifle.... designed for smokeless powder lmao
lol yeah there’s a lot of nonsense out there on this topic. I saw your video where you were talking about how people don’t know that black powder was loaded in cartridges. I’m always surprised how often I hear people say that.
A lot of guys are shooting BP, because of cost on primers. May be why Yer Views went up.
You are ahead of the game, Man!
I figured on switching to BP, as soon as the primer shortage showed up.
Didn't realize it was gonna be such a good move.
Thank you. Good segment
So, first off. Love your content. I subscribed a short while ago as I’m getting back into reloading and am embracing black powder. That said, let me just say I feel for you with the interweb blasting you. Most of them are morons that shouldn’t be allowed to use a computer let alone firearms (modern or otherwise). I have learned a ton both from the university of YT and “legitimate” sources. You have been clear, concise, consistent and comical. I really wasn’t shooting for all “c” words it just happened and well the other c word describes most of your critics (I really can’t help myself). Keep up the conversation and content (see?), and someday I might just make my own damn video and give you a nod. Thanks again.
New subscriber. Just ran across your chanel. I have been doing what you are doing for over 30 years. Good job keep it up. Yes people are funny.
Thank you
While I have never loaded a brass case with black power I have shot many rounds out of a cap and ball revolver.
You want black power to be compressed to ensure smooth deflagrate and prevent overpressure and hang fires. if you don't use enough black power to fill the cylinder you have to use a filler .
Yes fillers can be used in cartridges and we do that quite often.
I do enjoy your videos that I have seen. I have been shooting Black powder since the late 60's mostly muzzle loaders. I do understand and trust you info. Thank you for trying to teach me people.
I just watched the short you reference in this video, it's probably the most informative short I've yet seen. Most shorts are the video equivalent of shaking car keys at a baby.
The fact that you got so many clueless replies speaks to the caliber of your viewers more than anything else.
I load BP Cartridges case, primer, charge, cardboard wad, grease wad and seat the bullet. I've never had a problem.
I really enjoy all of your work and videos. I know how you feel man..people suck. Keep up the good work.
I made a video on making charcoal that went viral. The amount of people who have told me “you didnt make charcoal, just char” is mind boggling. There is also a mind boggling amount of people who have no clue what charcoal is/can be used for.
Edit: I usually just reply to them: “thanks for feeding the algorithm”
I believe it!
Try running a gunsmithing shop, I ran one open to the public for 5 years. Never again. Commission work only now for friends and family
I like having the home brew black powder option. I like seeing the many unconventional usages in modern cases. I would love to see a load data book using BP as the propellant.
reloading with real Gunpowder ( What DuPont calls it) is simple . Fill case to bullet base, seat bullet, crimp tightly and shoot.
That is what I am doing with the .38 Short Colt cartridges right now.
I am starting to get involved in black powder. When my good friend passed 2 months ago he left me to sell all his firearms for his wife. I bought 2 bp revolvers and can't wait to try them out. After watching you I learned how to make my black powder. I finally have all the ingredients, now I just have to mix them. I am a gunsmith, for over 25 years, and starting to get out of the business with the exception of family, friends and me. I'm just tired of dealing with some people.
I find that making my charcoal, out of grape vine, was fun. Thank You for your videos. I am learning an awful lot and also find them very entertaining.
Two Feathers
Happy to help. Thank you
I finally shot my first mix of powder. I over worked it and it shot great. Best part is that I didn't get the foul order of sulfur. It smelled more like firecrackers and smelt good. Plus the smoke was a lot less that pyrodex at 85 grains in my rifle.
I load .45 Colt with blackpowder and often substitute with Pyrodex or Triple 7, because they're substitutes...40 grains. The Walkers were also made with zero quality control. It's also been hinted that not all of the Walkers reported damaged were actually stolen.
I've got a brother-in-law whom thinks it's dangerous to shoot a modern produced Davide Pedersoli 1874 Q Model in 45, 3 and 1/4 with black powder. Bring homemade into the mix he scolds me . 🙄
He was taught black powder is an explosive. But at the same time he sees me using it with great effect as it was intended. A simple Lyman home cast 535 brain bullet. But he still thinks it's dangerous! Even though I show him the physical evidence of what the primer looks like in as well as the little to no case stretching. He refuses to shoulder it himself. But at the same time is amazed of what it can do 🤷
Oh boy….
Ignore the negative stuff....It's beneath you to deal with them on their own level.
For the morons saying black powder is only measured volumetrically, they need to be reminded that Lee makes volumetric measures for smokeless, the little yellow dippers. Some peoples kids, keep up the great work.
Love your channel and thanks for educating the simps
I have a 45-120-3 1/4. I use 5 grains of RedDot with 100 grains on top.
It speaks with authority!
Good show I just recently picked up black powder because of the ammo shortage you've helped me a lot
Glad to hear it
Good video, thank you.
I wonder if those people that make those comments if they ever reload at all...i admire your patience in explaining
Most of them no, or ever seen let alone used a BP bullet accelerator.
Nitrocellulose is a very interesting explosive. However, in the form of gun cotton, it does not seem to me to have better performance compared to a good black powder. On the other hand, if the gun cotton is gelatinized and dried, a material that burns much more slowly but with greater density is obtained. This apparently more harmless material, when ignited inside the cartridge, develops higher pressures, since it has a much higher detonation speed than black powder.
Gun cotton (Nitrocellulose) is a high explosive far more energetic and powerful than black powder. The gelatinized gun cotton you mention is Cordite which was used as a propellant in cartridges, it had a burn rate similar to IMR 3031. Cordite was a mixture of nitrocellulose, nitroglycerine, vaseline and acetone for a solvent, its basically referred to today as a double based propellant. Smokeless gun powder does not detonate, it has a specific pressure time curve tailored to a range of applications.
I’ve been watching your videos for a while now, you have a very awesome channel. You need more subs bro.
Thank you
A lot of people just can't learn or unlearn and enjoy something that someone makes with blood sweat and tears bro. Keep doing what you're doing 🎯👌
Your vid has explained to me the fuse difference in an ariel shell firework, ie black match, the first 50mm that one lights and the quickmatch which is the 450mm that goes to the lift charge. The difference between the two is only the paper sheath that surrounds the quickmatch.
The black match is approx a 5 to 7 second burn time but as soon as it enters the paper sheath/quickmatch it's instant ignition.
Cheers to you
There are a lot of misconceptions regarding black powder and weight, grains is a measure of mass (weight), in fact BP is made with natural ingredients and does not degrade over time when properly stored.
blackpowder ❤️
I subscribed because of the black powder. Loving your channel! Keep em coming. You Fudd lol.
Congrats on getting a video to go viral and all the new subscribers.
I was watching and listening and the epiphany hit me .... the negativity is not coming from it being a different kind of powder ..... IT'S BECAUSE IT'S BLACK! 🤣😂😉
So many brass cartridges that are loading instructions. The 30-30 was 30 cal bullet over 30 grains of black powder, 45-70 45 cal bullet over 70 grains of black powder.
Love it, thanks for the info. I'm a new sub, been reading on 45lc BP stuff for a while and found your channel.
Excellent
I like your videos. I agree with you about black powder. Its an excellent, very safe powder to use in brass cartridges. I like it so much that if i could only have one powder i would pick black powder because of its safety and wide applications. It truely is a universal cartridge powder, with the exceptuons of gas operated rifles like ARs or AKs. You can measure your charge by weight, thats alright. Not everybody does that, but whatever works is fine. Keep up the good work, and dont let the viewers frusterate you.
Even people without youtube channels that says black powder get the same comments about black powder cartridge. I need to look back at your videos but I would like to see a video on loading 45-70 black powder cartridge with a drop tube. Thanks
I have a video on it but I don’t typically use a drop tube.
@@Everythingblackpowder I must have missed it so I will go back and find it. Thanks
A similar behavior occurs with Research Development Explosive (RDX). When this material is ignited, it burns much slower than black powder, but with a brighter flame and smokeless. It sounds harmless, but if you trigger it with a detonator, it takes less than 30g to break a 1cm thick steel plate. The noise produced by the detonation is also much louder and is heard over a kilometer, despite the small amount used.
Nice intel, upvoted for algore rythme
Oh no!!! Not the space time continum!!!!
Yea I’m one of the new guys. I’m also newer to reloading and seeing the ability to load cartridges with alternative powders such as black powder/black powder substitute is neat. Keep up the good work.
Thank you. Welcome aboard
You Go, brother. I've been shooting black powder for years both in muzzle loaders and cartridge and I can tell you that a lot of muzzle loaders don't understand loading cartridge in BP. My comment about BP cartridge is that most of the loading articles seem to have a touch of voodoo in them. Grease cookies, corn meal filler, primers and lube. Miss a target at 400 meters and the first thing someone ask is what kind of lube are you using? You tell them and they slowly shake their head and say well that's your problem! Now, don't get me wrong all those separate components have their place in certain conditions. Simple turns out to be best for consistency. In my humble opinion!
Ok I got to tell that's some funny ass stuff there! To think a channel named everything black powder would load a original black powder cartridge with black powder. Who'd of guessed? The only thing I would add is that the only way to load black powder wrong is Air pockets. like the fact you brought up in an earlier video Elmer Keith and black powder. I fancy myself a Elmer Keith of the cap and ball revolver, and designed my own line of bullets for said revolvers in all three calibers. Designed for maximum impact. This started with me back in the 1980's when I was using (ironically enough) 240 grain Elmer keith bullets moulded for a gas check out of my Remington new model army. As it was my grizzly country sidearm.
Thank you. I know I mentioned the airspace issue with BP but I must have edited it out. Shame on me. As you said, it’s pretty much the only rule with black powder.
@@Everythingblackpowder entirely possible I missed it
Nope. I just check, I edited it out. Shame on me
You should do a series comparing original 1890s black powder loadings against modern smokeless loadings.
If you search for UMC Ammunition Catalogs, the cartridge collectors association has uploaded copies of these original catalogs. On them they show original loadings in both projectile and charge weight for a bunch of original cartridges. Would love to see you compare them, especially once you learn there were four different factory loadings for 45 Colt
I tried posting the charges in my comment, but youtube flags the numbers as sp@m for some reason. But basically there was a full service forty grain load, a thirtyfive grain reduced service load, a twentyeight grain schofield equivalent load, and a seven grain round ball gallery load for indoor practice.
Would also love to see you compare original 38 Special with a twentyone grain in load of 3F against modern smokeless loadings, as well as other cartridges like the WCF bottleneck cartridges or the 32 or 44 caliber smith and wesson cartridges. People forget these were first loaded in black powder before being changed to smokeless
The 1905 UMC catalog shows all of these and has handy pictures showing you how they were loaded - for example, the gallery loads were seated in the ball inside the case!
That’s good good idea. I’m doing a video on gallery loads right now.
@@Everythingblackpowder A cool idea for some shorts videos to would be to directly compare the modern Remington UMC smokeless against original UMC black powder loads. I think it would be cool to show side by side the UMC black powder catalog against the modern remington UMC box, and then chronographing to see how the UMC black powder loads are surprisingly more powerful than many of the modern liability lawyer smokeless loads, especially for calibers like 38 special.
When i was 25 in1965 I used Dupont smokeless bulk in place of black powder. I survived
Man I'm glad you came across with Al Gore's rhythm! Been loving the channel and just happened to start loading my first bp cartridge rifle which id love to see you go over one day! -41 Swiss Vetterli center fire conversion-highly recommended, accurate ,and super entertaining to shoot
Thank you
Smokeless powder has a burn rate, which is measured differently in different types of smokeless powder. But it does have a burn great. It also depending on the speed of that rate has a pressure curve but they are both propellants smokeless powder however make so much better explosive when you contain it in something that where it is not pushing a projectile it is not automatically an explosive
Fair enough