I have the full power CR20 and it’s fantastic. Very accurate, incredible trigger, crazy accurate for a Co2 88g powered unit and feeds anything you can put in the tray. All for a bargain second hand.
Don't knock yourself. Stance not bad and results not bad either. It''s great that there is something cheaper to get folk started in a very expensive part of the sport, but it's still too expensive. Of course quality usually is and I was tempted myself until you said the price. No doubt though there will be noises turned up from some folk in the discipline as it doesn't say Anschutz on the side, but if British Shooting is ever going to grow any and become more authorative in regards having a say that makes sporting organisations and the government sit up and take note, it needs more folk shooting in all kinds of disciplines. Such rifles as this helps no end, but the price still has to come down to get folk through the shooting door. Nice to see a video with something very different.
I agree, in these times where Theresa May's money tree has been chopped down , luxury items in excess of £1000 is way beyond the normal family person. If a manufacturer came up with a well priced version I'm sure they will sell very well.
@@kelvinsparks4651 it's £850 (converted) here. Manufacturers can't be blamed the majority of british decided they wanted to pay more for imports some years ago.
Andy, great rifle and great shots from you too, I can say with every confidence, the more you shot with the AR20 the better you would be able to shoot 10’s in the standing. Just a few adjustments on the sights and you would so much happier in yourself. Another great show thank you.
very interesting that entry-level olympic air rifles are starting to pop out... that means the demand has risen so hight that the offer of older second-hand rifles for entry-level shooters no longer suffices. that's excellent news for the growth of the sport.
11:19 -- These are not bad for off hand it stayed relatively consistent. Bravo Andy! Yup more practice you will get close to matching your rested shots for sure. Well done man. 😲👍
Retails for $1.220 here in the USA, seems expensive but considering the Anschutz rifles go from $2.800 to $4.800, it's very reasonably priced. Nice shooting Andy, especially the offhand considering it's not your usual thing. 😁👍
I've owned the CR20 for quite a few years now, it comes in all black, has the giant muzzle brake and a rail system instead of the dioptre sights so better for benchrest shooting, it also comes with quite a few stock adaptors as well as weights and is brilliant for me as I'm a lefthanded shooter. The C is for CO2 (takes the large CO2 bottles in place of the PCP tank) and I really want to convert it to PCP but Hammerli haven't been very helpful. Mine is also branded under Umarex who bought Walther when the firearms company was going broke and saved it with the Walther P99 and giving the prototype to Pierce Brosnan on set for James Bond asking him to recommend it as Bond's new pistol, which he did.
I remember many years ago using the rifle club .22 rim fire target rifles that used diopter sights, that was in the days before I needed glasses and we shot from a prone position. Good fun but my varifocal glasses make using most iron sights very difficult these days, the only ones I can manage are the fibre optic ones like the ones on my HW45 where I can at least line up the glowing blurry coloured dots 😁
It's pronounced "Hammerlee" :) 13:14 "So chill, he had one hand in his pocket" Well, tbf, this is the standard shooting position for 10m air pistol. You either have the hand at the hip, the belt or the pocket, and 90% of 10m pistoleros chose the pocket.
Its normal practise to have your free hand rested ie in a pocket or tucked in your belt when shooting pistol. I would say your results were very good as standing 10 mtr rifle is extremely challenging so well done.
Hi Andy, Good shooting there. If you look at your off hand to where it was zeroed you were not far off. You can fit a scope to them as I had a scope on mine for 3 positional shooting. You can buy 2 different size regulators to increase the power up to 12ft/lb, but they were not cheap here in Australia.
Im in love with the gun …. I do bell target ….. problem is pcp’s are banned and have to use open sights …. Oh and at 6 foot pound it wouldnt ring the bell ….. but i want one
WOW the accuracy is nuts and not even using a scope. Price is ok as well considering that my 7,5J "F" FX can do that es well but costs a bit more and is not designed to take a diopter
They do a FT version and I am sure that is a standard 11mm dovetail. I have an old Anschutz 22lr target rifle with a high magnification scope on it, as my Benchrest rifle.
If you intend to erase yourself from the equation, lock the gun in a fixed stand. My Feinwerkbau LP100 pistol does deliver 10 shot, 4,5 hole at 10 meters.... if locked... A locked stand would be much more for the precision and the outcome of any test....
Wow the low end 10m olympic air rifle. Is it a beginning of a series and we will see fwb, Steyr, Walther, tesro, pardini and anschütz? The thing is that within 10m Air rifle it is a baseline but outside of it, it is a bit overprised piece.
It is the cheap line of Walther, and the Hämmerlis have been around as cheap "loan units" for guests and beginners at gun clubs for quite a while. If it were a market, the other manufacturers would have followed along long time ago, I guess. Many people that decide to get into the sport just ignore the Hämmerli and go for the entry level "real" Walther or Feinwerkbau albeit the premium for these (€1500-1600 for a entry level LG400 or FWB500 instead of €1000-€1100 for the AR20Pro). I guess to make tha Hämmerli really attractive for beginner shooters, it would have to be something around €700-€800. I wozuld buy one just because I think it looks cute 😄
@ssm445 similar situation in Germany. It is also quite popular price on minor turnaments. But yep Walther lg500 or fw500 are a lot better (und sie wurden in Deutschland hergestellt).
That’s a nice rifle! However, I wanted to point out that the gear on OI doesn’t necessarily provide any real advantage. For example, the anti-glare lens helps with visibility but isn’t auto-aim or AI assistance. Similarly, ear protection doesn’t improve your shooting skills-it just protects your hearing. What truly matters is having a steady hand, sharp eyesight, and proper trigger discipline. As you mentioned yourself, your hand isn’t always steady, and glasses might slightly affect sharpness (though they help overall). It’s about building those core skills. In fact, sometimes too much reliance on gear can even hinder progress. Without stamina and steadiness, the results might not improve as much, even with the best equipment. Focus on the fundamentals, and I’m sure you’ll see better results!
I know you could outshoot me cause I'm old and shake like a politician in church, but when I was young I could stack em. Love your show, big thanks
I have the full power CR20 and it’s fantastic. Very accurate, incredible trigger, crazy accurate for a Co2 88g powered unit and feeds anything you can put in the tray. All for a bargain second hand.
Don't knock yourself. Stance not bad and results not bad either. It''s great that there is something cheaper to get folk started in a very expensive part of the sport, but it's still too expensive. Of course quality usually is and I was tempted myself until you said the price. No doubt though there will be noises turned up from some folk in the discipline as it doesn't say Anschutz on the side, but if British Shooting is ever going to grow any and become more authorative in regards having a say that makes sporting organisations and the government sit up and take note, it needs more folk shooting in all kinds of disciplines. Such rifles as this helps no end, but the price still has to come down to get folk through the shooting door. Nice to see a video with something very different.
I agree, in these times where Theresa May's money tree has been chopped down , luxury items in excess of £1000 is way beyond the normal family person. If a manufacturer came up with a well priced version I'm sure they will sell very well.
@@kelvinsparks4651 it's £850 (converted) here. Manufacturers can't be blamed the majority of british decided they wanted to pay more for imports some years ago.
Andy, great rifle and great shots from you too, I can say with every confidence, the more you shot with the AR20 the better you would be able to shoot 10’s in the standing. Just a few adjustments on the sights and you would so much happier in yourself. Another great show thank you.
very interesting that entry-level olympic air rifles are starting to pop out... that means the demand has risen so hight that the offer of older second-hand rifles for entry-level shooters no longer suffices. that's excellent news for the growth of the sport.
11:19 -- These are not bad for off hand it stayed relatively consistent. Bravo Andy! Yup more practice you will get close to matching your rested shots for sure. Well done man. 😲👍
Retails for $1.220 here in the USA, seems expensive but considering the Anschutz rifles go from $2.800 to $4.800, it's very reasonably priced. Nice shooting Andy, especially the offhand considering it's not your usual thing. 😁👍
I've owned the CR20 for quite a few years now, it comes in all black, has the giant muzzle brake and a rail system instead of the dioptre sights so better for benchrest shooting, it also comes with quite a few stock adaptors as well as weights and is brilliant for me as I'm a lefthanded shooter. The C is for CO2 (takes the large CO2 bottles in place of the PCP tank) and I really want to convert it to PCP but Hammerli haven't been very helpful. Mine is also branded under Umarex who bought Walther when the firearms company was going broke and saved it with the Walther P99 and giving the prototype to Pierce Brosnan on set for James Bond asking him to recommend it as Bond's new pistol, which he did.
Great to see a different type of rifle being reviewed 👍
And not a bad attempt for someone who doesn't shoot these
Absolutely no problem at all. Thank you for showing us a carl Walter rifle.😁
I remember many years ago using the rifle club .22 rim fire target rifles that used diopter sights, that was in the days before I needed glasses and we shot from a prone position. Good fun but my varifocal glasses make using most iron sights very difficult these days, the only ones I can manage are the fibre optic ones like the ones on my HW45 where I can at least line up the glowing blurry coloured dots 😁
Nice, now to watch the latest episode of 'The Day of the Jackal'. 😄
Yes, but even Andy couldn't look as cool as Edward Fox in a cravat..sorry Andy!
It's pronounced "Hammerlee" :)
13:14 "So chill, he had one hand in his pocket"
Well, tbf, this is the standard shooting position for 10m air pistol. You either have the hand at the hip, the belt or the pocket, and 90% of 10m pistoleros chose the pocket.
Same in Black Powder shooting. It was the traditional way to shoot, double handed is a new invention.
I had a pistol instructor who chose to show his dominance by holding an ice cream in his off hand. Irksome chap! 😉
Its normal practise to have your free hand rested ie in a pocket or tucked in your belt when shooting pistol. I would say your results were very good as standing 10 mtr rifle is extremely challenging so well done.
Morning from Maryland
Looked like a nice gun, and both target cards looked like if you were soothing in groups they would have been close to pellet on pellet.
Great review as always Andy .You always manage to bring something new to the table that's interesting and educational.
Hi Andy, Good shooting there. If you look at your off hand to where it was zeroed you were not far off. You can fit a scope to them as I had a scope on mine for 3 positional shooting. You can buy 2 different size regulators to increase the power up to 12ft/lb, but they were not cheap here in Australia.
It's another world! Great review.
Im in love with the gun …. I do bell target ….. problem is pcp’s are banned and have to use open sights …. Oh and at 6 foot pound it wouldnt ring the bell ….. but i want one
Not bad shooting for someone who doesn't do target shooting and it's a great looking rifle as wel, wil we now see andy venturing into target shooting?
Would it shoot at 20 - 25 yards
Well done! You gave every excuse possible. But well done!
The obligatory "What's that rifle in the background, please?" comment.
Great shooting Andy and a lovely looking rifle, I have a Hammerli rimfire rifle and love it. Have a great weekend and stay well.
If you can remove the cylinder for filling can you use an 88g co2 instead?
WOW the accuracy is nuts and not even using a scope. Price is ok as well considering that my 7,5J "F" FX can do that es well but costs a bit more and is not designed to take a diopter
I shoot the fienwerkbau 800x and now you can understand the skill needed to make use of the body as well as the gun to shoot straight
Morning all
When you are shooting at 10M - is the distance measured from the end of the barrel or some point on your body? Thanks!
Leading foot has to be behind a 10m line to the face of the target.
I sure wish that we could see what it can do with a scope.
Great Review Andy
Standing the target needs to be 1.4m height.
If that had a mode lever to switch between 6 and 12 🦶⚖️ I'd be having a conversation with my bank account.
Could be suited to other disciplines if the power can be adjusted to 12ftlb
So Smurfette DOES spit !
I had one in FT it was called AR20FT they don't make them any more which is a pity it was full powered for uk
I was really excited at the first half of your post. 😀😮🤦♂️
Didn't seem too bad for your first try , as they say practice makes perfect 😊 . Time to try a new discipline I reckon .
Will it take a scope and would it make a Benchrest rifle?.
They do a FT version and I am sure that is a standard 11mm dovetail. I have an old Anschutz 22lr target rifle with a high magnification scope on it, as my Benchrest rifle.
If you intend to erase yourself from the equation, lock the gun in a fixed stand. My Feinwerkbau LP100 pistol does deliver 10 shot, 4,5 hole at 10 meters.... if locked... A locked stand would be much more for the precision and the outcome of any test....
Wow the low end 10m olympic air rifle.
Is it a beginning of a series and we will see fwb, Steyr, Walther, tesro, pardini and anschütz?
The thing is that within 10m Air rifle it is a baseline but outside of it, it is a bit overprised piece.
It is the cheap line of Walther, and the Hämmerlis have been around as cheap "loan units" for guests and beginners at gun clubs for quite a while. If it were a market, the other manufacturers would have followed along long time ago, I guess.
Many people that decide to get into the sport just ignore the Hämmerli and go for the entry level "real" Walther or Feinwerkbau albeit the premium for these (€1500-1600 for a entry level LG400 or FWB500 instead of €1000-€1100 for the AR20Pro). I guess to make tha Hämmerli really attractive for beginner shooters, it would have to be something around €700-€800. I wozuld buy one just because I think it looks cute 😄
@ssm445 similar situation in Germany. It is also quite popular price on minor turnaments. But yep Walther lg500 or fw500 are a lot better (und sie wurden in Deutschland hergestellt).
Thought you was going to say you was shaking like a canine emptying its bowels
Nice.
Wow, under 20 mins
That’s a nice rifle! However, I wanted to point out that the gear on OI doesn’t necessarily provide any real advantage. For example, the anti-glare lens helps with visibility but isn’t auto-aim or AI assistance. Similarly, ear protection doesn’t improve your shooting skills-it just protects your hearing.
What truly matters is having a steady hand, sharp eyesight, and proper trigger discipline. As you mentioned yourself, your hand isn’t always steady, and glasses might slightly affect sharpness (though they help overall). It’s about building those core skills.
In fact, sometimes too much reliance on gear can even hinder progress. Without stamina and steadiness, the results might not improve as much, even with the best equipment. Focus on the fundamentals, and I’m sure you’ll see better results!
Take no notice. You will always get the gobshites trying to knock you or the rifle
It looks like an orthopedic walking stick designed by Damien Hurst.
Ah this guy must be the James May Of the gun world?
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Ya shoot like an old unfit woman 😂😂😂