Chevy 1500 2.7L TURBO MAX 4 cylinder (L3B) **Heavy Mechanic Review** | How Does it TOW??
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- Опубликовано: 12 авг 2023
- I review the Chevy/GMC 1500 2.7L Inline 4 cylinder TURBO L3B engine as a Heavy Duty Mechanic. This 4 cylinder turbo charged engine produced 310 hp and 430lb-ft of torque. I test out this engines towing performance and review the engines acceleration, fuel economy (mpg), engine braking and general towing experience.
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So I was actually very surprised by this 2.7L turbo charged inline 4 towing experience. this engines is actually very capable when it comes to towing. This engine is not the fastest in comparison to other engines in the 1500 truck segmant but this engines shines when it comes to torque delivery.
rarely did this 2.7L turbo charged engine go over 2500 RPM with this 8000lb load which is remarkable. I thought foresure this engine would be revving very high but the high torque figures kept those wheel turning under load
the main reason why this engines can create such good torque comes from the massive stroke which naturally allows engines to build torque from the naturally large crank throw.
another reason why this engine was so unexpectagly good at towing has to do with the turbo. turbo's are great when towing because they can simply supply more engine power on demand without having to downshift the transmissions and get into higher RPM's
overall this 2.7L turbo charged 4 cylinder engine was impressive for such a small package. I felt very comfortable towing 8,000lbs.
the one issues or downside of this engine was fuel economy, fuel economy was actually pretty high at around 11.7mpg for only a 4 cylinder engine. if you are expecting great fuel economy go buy a diesel because this engine when towing will drink lots of fuel.
hope you guys liked the video! 
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I know guys that are using these trucks as fleet vehicles. Over 100k miles on them and no major issues
Because your comparing these trucks with the exact same trailer setup is why I’ll keep coming back…unlike other reviewers constantly changing trailer setups. Keeping a similar rear end ratio is also golden! Fantastic breakdowns also. I would definitely like to see the 2.7 ecoboost. Subscribed!
Thank you sir! That is the idea behind all these towing tests to try and eliminate as many variables to really only compare the engines and trucks to each other. It would be very nice to have my choice of gearing but usually thats tough to get lol
I own one, it has mud tires on all four corners and this engine will light those tires up on the asphalt, I kid you not. If someone asked me if I would consider buying another truck with this engine my answer would be in a heartbeat. I'm sold.
I hear they require premium gas which is more expensive than 87 octane. What is your thoughts 🤔
@@mikepeterson8037I recently got one. Takes 87. Checked the owners manual when I got it to be sure
@@mikepeterson8037 That's recommended for all turbo motors. It'll run on regular. It has a knock sensor..lol.
I have a 23 trailboss. He's not exaggerating they are stout! I like the much better than the 5.3.
I didn't realize your speedometer was in kmh at first and was like "HOLY SHIT WHAT A BEAST!"
Thank you for the great towing video! I want to add my recent experience.
10/16/23: Completed a 240mile camper tow from Frankfort KY to Central Ohio. Camper = 2015 Jayco Jayflight 32 BHDS, 8680 lbs on the Cat scale. Bumper pull. Equal-i-zer weight distribution bars. Vehicle = 2023 GMC Sierra Evolution 2.7l turbo 4x4. Tow rating 8,900 lbs. No factory trailer package. Installed Prodigy P2 after market break controller. Front squat without load 36.5". With load 36 3/4". Camper trailer completely leveled. Payload without trailer 610lbs. Weather cloudy 55 degrees no rain. Little wind. Old truck broke down but this almost new (5,000 miles) GMC towed really well. But, mostly small inclines (truck at ~3,200 rpm). Ohio flatter and the truck easily held top gear at ~2,300rpm. Fuel mileage 9mpg. This week I've done ~200 miles averaging 25.2mpg (as indicated on the dash). My opinion: it will handle 9,000lbs camper but is heavy for this truck and if it is windy outside then a drive would be 'interesting' - leveling bars a must. Will downgrade my camper to a smaller unit (empty nesters now). Hope this info is helpful to some☘️
If I took a shot every time you referred to the 2.7 as a sowing machine I would have forgotten my name.
Yea he really was beating a dead horse with that
I agree seeing machine this that I mean dude 4 cylinder turbos have pulling loads for over 8 years I had 2.7 twin turbo and I could put a pallet of wet sod down in south Florida 100 degrees in summer yeah she would squat but that’s a pallet 500 square feet ways way over 2000 never had prom blend towing enclosed trailers with 2 73 inch zt mowers plus alll the other equipped and 4-5 people inside it always pulled everything you just have to take care of your maintenance
Sewing machine not sowing machine.
@@robertpulliam9973 tru
Yep. Got old after the 8th time.
The numbers are impressive. I'd like to see one with over 150k (miles) It's really tough to compete with the good old Chevy push-rod small-blocks. They just run, and run.... I have had 3, 5.3's and they were awesome.
Yeah, It's really hard to beat the 5.3, they are a solid proven engine for the most part. People have neglected to do maintenance on these engines over the years that I've seen and they just keep going.
I’m @89k currently with zero issues
Longevity is what anyone cares about. I want to know how it does after 100k of hard work life! My guess is not good
I have a 2009 with the 5.3, 245,000 miles. I don't believe it has lost a single HP! It will still haul a##! ,and still pull a boat very good.
I had a 5.3 with cylinder shut off. GM sucks. At 189k motor was trash. All proper maintenance was performed. This will not last 150k.
I am an engineer (at GM) and have a 2022 Silverado with the L3B. I am preparing to purchase a travel trailer and a big consideration in that decision is the ability of this truck to tow whatever I end up buying. However, after speaking with an engineer who did the calibration on this engine and watching several RUclips videos, including yours, I'm convinced this thing is very capable of towing RVs up to at least 7500 LB. If it doesn't perform as expected I may move to the 3.0L LZ0 I6 diesel next year. The no-brainer solution is to just buy a 2500 with a Duramax but that's a completely different level of expense, and not a vehicle I would necessarily want as a daily driver. Thanks for reporting on your test.
Okay, so here is my two cents months later. :) I have owned the 2023 GMC Sierra Evolution with the 2.7 for 6 months now and tow a 5000-pound travel trailer. I live in Colorado, with lots of mountain passes and steep grades. I am pleasantly surprised at how well this engine performs, even at higher elevations. I'm convinced it pulls the trailer better than my 98 Silverado with the 5.7 Vortec. Like others, I'm sold on this motor and would buy another one. The mpg is the same as a V8, but I'm okay with that. Empty highway is 23-24 mpg. That works great for me. :)
I just purchased my 3rd 2.7 L Chevy truck after trading in my 5.3 L in on it, was disappointed in the way the 5.3 L towed....never had a single issue with the 2.7 L .......do miss the V-8 sound
I bought a 2019 GMC Sierra with the 2.7 L turbo when they first came out. It replaced my 2005 with the 5.3. While I haven’t done a lot of towing, I can say when I have it’s handled it without difficulty. Having owned both the 2.7 and the 5.3, I can tell you I’d buy another 2.7 without hesitation. For my application I simply don’t need the V8.
What was your mileage like?
I appreciate your comment. I had a 6.2 in 2020 and I no longer feel like I need it. Looking at a truck again I wasn’t even considering another GM but I of course have GM points to use and I almost said forget it, was looking elsewhere. But I will surely test drive one of these soon
Own this engine in the Colorado. Towed 6000lbs of car and trailer from Florida to Colorado averaging 70-75mph the whole way. Rpm’s sat at 2300 the whole way including up mild grades. Engine oil temps never got higher than 225 going over the Appalachians and stayed at around 215 the rest of the time. For a mid size truck application, it’s an excellent engine. Pulls hard, revs low, love it.
@@BradyReading I can’t imagine anything else in the Colorado/Canyon but the 2.7 L turbo. You can see why they eliminated the diesel and V6 options.
We just purchased this engine in a new 1500 Chevy Silverado 2023 while coming home from a vacation with our 5.3 2006 Chevy Avalanche that lost the top end on the transmission. We had our Lance travel trailer with us. I too was pleasantly surprised with this powerful little four banger engine!
Thank you for this comment as I’m looking to purchase a Silverado with this engine and I have a keystone bowl of travel trailer
I have this motor in a 2023 Colorado, a huge improvement over the v6 That was in my 2019 Colorado. Pulls 4000 lb dump trailer much better. Runs like a diesel, best freeway driving is 31 mpg, usual mixed driving is 22-25. Hope it holds up for the long haul👍🏻
Just bought one last week and boy im impressed !!! This small engine is incredible
This was a lot of fun to watch. The only guy i trust for my truck reviews
Well thank you Lindsay!
I had a 2019 and now have the refreshed 2023 2.7. It's amazing what this motor will do. I've owned hemis and Ford's too
Overall I feel like the Turbomax engine is great. You get enough torque to work with pretty heavy loads and get roughly the same fuel economy as a v8, and roughly the same pulling power as a v8, but when it’s empty you get far better fuel economy.
You burn more fuel than a v8 towing because it is make more low end torque than they are. I don't have a problem with that.
I think it's a myth that GM wanted max fuel efficiency. This engine was designed to replace the 4.3 v6, not the v8's. It's designed to be cheap to build, cheap to maintain (durable), and most importantly be better in emissions. It absolutely thrashes the v6 in every metric, the fact that everyone compares it against the v8's (5.3) shows how impressive it is and how much GM succeeded. It was never meant to be a gas sipper, though it still does much better against the 5.3 in the city unloaded (which everyone fails to mention). TFL Truck has talked to the chief designer, and they go through a tear down of this engine, I think we're going to see how strong and reliable this engine is in another 5 years. Basically it's built just as tough as a diesel, only it runs gas instead. I believe it's an absolute winner given what they designed it for. I personally have a hard time buying one though, my 5.7 ram is just so smooth and linear and sounds amazing too. Hard to find a bad truck these days, they're all winners in one area or another.
Ya completely agree this 2.7 is a MASSIVE step up from the previous V6 option. Hopefully the reliability is there because if so this is a really cool engine option
Eco beast. Blows this away. Dual fuels injection, 2 more cylinders, over a decade of real world use and improvement. As usual gm is at late to the party and half assed it
@@ajmedeiros77 This 2.7 is a BASE engine. What does Ford use as their base engine? Oh yeah, the worst v6 in the segment lol. If I'm paying for an upgraded engine, I'm getting a v8 or (more than likely) a diesel. And the 3.5 EB is ok, but then you're still unfortunately flogging a ford. Eww.
Totally agree about the 5.7 in the RAM. Love the sound and the smooth linear power. It's a very good fit for a light duty truck. My 3.5 eb was a better towing machine but I love my RAM Limited
My opinion is they are all garbage. I say that because of the canbuss and all the modules that have no place in any vehicle and most all the maintenance problems will be with the electrical system
Greetings Alex.
I think the engine 2.7 l. It is a great option for light and medium work. I still think that the best option for medium to super heavy duty work is a diesel. But the best decision and convenience is for each of the users and the size of our wallet. I really enjoyed your video and more your analysis and comments. Without a doubt, it is a great GMC option and its Professional Grade. 😮
BIG HUG from CDMX! 😊
I have the 2020 version of this with 113k/km on it. I have a 14’ cargo trailer with a quad, dirt bike, snowmobile, one snowmobile in the bed one in the trailer etc. It performs well - tows better than my 2.7 f150 - but the Chevy is heavier so that might have something to do with it. Speaking just about the engine - it’s not as fast as my 2.7 f150 was but it’s super impressive and fun - like it’s alive! No problems passing even with loads. I average 19-21L/100km towing the trailer, and as good as 9 on the highway - average about 11.5 between fillups. It’s been flawless so far - but the caveat is that it does burn oil - about a litre every 10k. It’s on an oil watch thing with the dealer now, thankfully it’s a fleet truck plus I just ordered another. The 8 speed trans is absolutely horrible btw - between 1st and 3rd it misses shifts, clunky, slams into gears, etc. I’m told this is normal lol. FWIW the ford burned a little oil but the big thing (engine only) was all the seals on the engine needed to be replaced, they were weeping oil. This is getting long but the most annoying thing about the Ford was the drivers door refusing to close in cold weather. Even after the TSB and several repair attempts. That was unforgivable - cars have been around with doors over 100 years lol.
love the towing reviews! keep it up
Thank you sir!
Great Review! Looking forward to more expert evaluations!
Thank you sir! Really appreciate the support
I have put 5,000 miles on my 23 2.7 and love it.
It tows my box trailer / 4,000 lbs with ease.
If you can deal with the lack of v8 noise you will not be disappointed.
I have read numerous complaints about the 8 speed trans. Mine however is very smooth and no matter what kind of driving I am doing seems to always be in the correct gear. Also does not hunt back and forth for gears. Tends to pick a gear and stay there. Even in hilly terrain. I can honestly say I do not regret purchasing the 2.7.
I've always owned eight and six cylinder Chevy trucks and was reluctant to buy a four banger. But after watching a lot of reviews, I bought a 2024 Silverado with the 2.7 liter turbo. Im very pleasantly surprised at the power band. I didn't buy it for towing, but now I'm thinking of buying a small trailer for camping.
Well done review!!!!! Thank you for posting!
Im glad your videos stuck to just towing as the title says. You didn't get stuck in a 20 min loop explaining all the screens and lights that flash or sounds that go beep!
Not surprised they didn't sell it which was why you were able to test it. 😅
Thanks for sharing this. Im on the hunt for a new truck and these 2.7 engines are all they are selling in my area. Im looking to tow a mini skid steer every now and then
I mean I will say this engine didn't seem to have any issues towing. I wouldn't want this to be my daily towing engine but for every now and again I think the 2.7L would perform very well.
@@TheGettyAdventures gotcha. Yea it would me only emergencies when HD truck isnt available. Im currenly driving a 195hp v6.
Love the content. Real world tests. Living in ontario most here dont realize the terain in NB we own a home near Salisbury and going back and forth from here with a trailer will put all half tons to the test. Thanks
I'd really like to see you do a head to head comparison with the Ford 2.7 Ecoboost.
Towing, acceleration, MPG's, engine design, cab and suspension quality, and your thoughts as to which one will prove to be more reliable.
Love how you take the time to point out key info such as stroke, block material, offset stroke crank, fractured caps, etc.
You really provide a wealth of knowledge and important info.
Thanks!
I decided to buy the 2.7l. I use it to commute an hour to work everyday and I needed something with the space to pick up 4x8 sheets of plywood and drywall to renovate my house. I wont be towing very often with it, so i figured it was the best choice.
Nice towing review but maybe try towing with a RV or enclosed trailer vs a flat bed. The air resistance on those trailers is much greater and has a massive effect on towing, mpg, truck transmission downshifting, etc.
I got 10.2MPG towing my 32' 7400lb travel trailer from Michigan to Wisconin and back. Downshifts were few and far between, much less than when I had my 5.3L with the 10 speed. I got 8.9MPG with my 5.3 on the same trip last year.
In the future I would like to use an enclosed trailer for the 1500's. I bought that trailer primary to test the HD trucks. tough to find an enclosed trailer that can haul 20,000lbs without paying big money.
I was thinking the same.
your doing great, Like the snap on boots, mans man. LOL@@TheGettyAdventures
I would like to see this tow a 8000lbs travel trailer with all of its wind resistance. This motor seems to work hard getting up to speed because HP is down but it holds speed well because of the turbo low end torque. Pretty impressive. It reminds me of older turbo diesels.
Ive towed a 32 foot travel trailer with a slide out on the interstate for about 3 hours. Was a breeze. Only problem is no trailer brake from factory
@@twmayo714 Good to know! Crazy it didn't come with a controller.
I love my 2.7 LT. Didn’t want to deal with lifter problems. Mines lifted 3.5” on true actual 33” rt tires. Still get 21mpg and I’ve towed with it that way across the country moving for the military. I’m a ase master tech and just was sick of the lifter issues in the 5.3. Only thing Chevy needs to do is put the 10speed behind the 2.7
Also got 27.1 mpg calculated at the pump on 2 100mile loops when it was bone stock.
the 8 speed is a pretty good transmission behind these engines also
@@kevinburton5323 After GM and Mobil 1 reformulated the transmission fluid in 2019 and addressed some design issues, the 8-speed greatly improved IMO. I prefer it to the 6L80. The big thing is having it serviced. GM insists it's fine to go 100k before service but don't follow that service schedule. Have the fluid and filter changed by 45k.
Thanks for the data. As an occasional tower I love my 2.7 turbo. I get the decent fuel economy most of the time. I don’t mind sacrificing a little fuel economy when I do tow and I appreciate not being that guy who slows to a crawl on the incline slowing everyone else down. I think GM got this one spot on.
I love my 2020 Silverado with the 2.7 in it, though mine isn't rated to haul as much as these newer versions. Mine also has extremely low miles because it was/is a lease vehicle so I can't speak for longevity. But the lease is now over and we're going through the motions to continue paying on it. So I'll be able to put more miles on it without worrying about going over. We don't own a trailer ourselves so I can't say about its' towing ability but we fill the bed full with material and it hauls it just fine. It drives like there's nothing in the bed imo.
While shopping around for oil filters when I was buying supplies to do an oil change I noticed the new 3.0l Duramax uses the same model of oil filter as my Turbo-4. There's a brand who makes an extended length oil filter for the Duramax as an upgrade from the stock unit. They're a few more dollars over stock, but I'll be buying some of those to keep on hand for when oil changes are needed. More oil capacity is never a bad thing especially when it comes to hauling and towing. :)
Yes I have one of these trucks and no I haven’t had the chance to towed yet with my truck so I’m glad that I got the chance to watch your video thank you. And yes it is not a swooning machine engine lol .
I went into it with the same concerns. It left me speechless. I like it
lol It was really cool to see this thing work. shocked at how much a 2.7L engine can pull.
lol same here, I was very apprehensive about test driving it but once I got out on the road and put the gas pedal down it gave me a hard on
@kevinburton5323 also the turbo whistle is sexy on these
@@MontanaAV406agree! Trying to make mine even louder, I love it.
Great Vid!! U being a mechanic is the the heavier oil weight 5w 30 due it being a turbo 4 cylinder or other?
He compares this engine to a V6? Seems like it is competing with the 5.3L V8. 5.3 vs 2.7 seems like the 2.7 will hold its own against the 5.3.
waiting patiently for the 3.0l duramax towing video...😉
If they last 200k miles I will be a believer. It's a nice entry level step above a work truck.
only time will tell! but I agree it is a nice step on the N/A v6's
It will last that long if you change the oil regularly, and the most difficult thing in the majority of people, NEVER accelerate the engine over 2000 RPMs, NEVER-EVER! Everyone except me, wants to arrive 4 seconds earlier to the next red light, stop sign or traffic backup, revving the engines too bad, 3000-4000 RPMs every stop and go. Let the vehicle speed up and shift gradually, no need to rush for a few seconds, the vehicle will last longer and of course, you will save gas
Buddys is at 209k. Pulls a 7400lbs camper 90% of the time. 2021 2.7 no issues, except for a brake sensor that was fixed around 80k.
@@kwt2000truckerrevving high on occasion is good for the engine because it prevents carbon buildup. And revs really don’t matter much so long as you aren’t flooring it. But you don’t have to slow traffic and drive it like a granny
@@ericj810 I was looking at a truck with this engine was kind of scared.
I have this motor in my 23 Canyon. Love it so far.
Wow, this engine would probably nice a quick in those lighter trucks
Key two words ? SO FAR !
Seeing the 1500 trucks being used more and more as a family vehicle/daily drivers that tows once in a while ATVs or RVs, this engine shines. You have the benefit of better fuel economy when unloaded, but you have the power to tow when you need it. I still chose my Silverado with the 5.3 because i just trust it more and i prefer the sound. Chevy Cruze noise in a pick-up is just weird to me.
It sounds pretty funny with an exhaust. You think it’s a Honda civic with a fat turbo but no it’s just a base Chevy truck
Same here.. Had a 2000 excursion V10 for 15 yrs and 250,000 miles.. towed a light trailer 2x
I've owned exactly one turbocharged engine and that was enough. Sure, it had V8 power, but it also had V8 fuel economy. Repair parts were a nightmare; my exhaust manifold cracked and a new one was $1500, not including labor. I'll just stick to a V8 for reliability.
I am impressed with the sewing machine. Interested in seeing matching test on 5.3L. I steered away from the 4 cyl. and purchased the 5.3. When towing with the 5.3 I get about 11 MPG over short distances and 12+ over longer distances. Ten speed transmission is fabulous for Sunday driving as well as heavy towing. Thank you for this review.
I think the 5.3L is a solid engine option. it will probably outperformance the 2.7L in towing but for such a small displacement I was impressed.
I have had 3 Silverados with the 5.3 engine. Was very happy with them, but I just bought a replacement truck with the 2.7 engine. My towing is occasional with a max of about 5000 lbs. The new truck pulls the trailer well. The real positive for me at this point is the mileage overall. At just over 2000 miles, with 5 or 6 trips towing my trailer, my average mpg is 20.4. The 5.3 would never do that well even empty on flat ground.
@@TheGettyAdventureswat do u think as far as 3.0 Duramax vs 5.3 for towing? I had a 2014 5.3 for awhile that I really liked but it needed a 10 speed behind it too get it's full potential.
5.3 is a dog compared to the 2.7......the numbers don't lie. As far as quick it completely destroys a 5.3 in a drag race. Yes it's thirsty when pulling...I guess I'm one of the few that do not care what mpg I get while dragging a 7500 pound camper
The 5.3 is a solid motor for longevity but pretty low on torque compared to the competition at 383 ft/lbs. It also needs to be above 2300 or so RPMs to make it. I have a 2018 Sierra with the 5.3 and the difference between it and the 6.2 is remarkable. I continue to be impressed with this new 2.7L!
I have two of these trucks for my construction company and most times I need it to move trailers but most times I'm coming back and forth to work but it saves lots off gas without trailers
I just bought the 2024 GMC Sierra with that engine. I was skeptical about it, but when I test drove it. I was super surprised on the get up and go not towing. I’m only going to tow a utility trailer with a gulf cart on it at most. Being that it’s an economical option you don’t get some of the luxuries as the 5.7 version. Really though GMC has a pretty decent base model on them. So my opinion this truck is great, definitely worth checking out for the personal who is skeptical like I was. The only thing I miss is the sounds of a 5.7, they sound beastly compared to this model.
2022 Silverado Custom 2.7L
I've only pulled about 2k lbs but was very impressed. In TH mode the pcm keeps the engine/trans right in the meat of the power. Never below 2k rpms.
Running around empty I see 23 to 24 mpg.
Just over 10k miles
Awesome, I was very impressed how this engine handed the load. And that is great mileage!
Modern metallurgy and engineering. It would be interesting to see these same tests in the desert southwest with ambient temps in excess of 110 degrees F. Longevity is the next concern but of course only time will tell. Up front this is quite impressive.
I tow with a 2019 Titan with a VK56VD. It tows a car on a trailer at 1,800 rpm @ 70. Loads of low-speed torque on the VK56.
Great review!
Thank you sir!
It’s performance like this that has me considering buying a Chevy/GMC with the 2.7.
I’ll keep my 3.5 ecoboost v6. Great power plant despite missing the sound of a v8 but could never beat the power of it stock to stock.
we own several 3.5 ecoboost's and they are spendy motors to keep up with, the 5.0 is solid and cheaper in the long run. But I do love the down low grunt of a turbo. I did by the Chevy 2.7 turbo a few months back, took it on 2 long trips with lots of mountains, ran perfect, climbs hills good, fuel economy is ok. Happy with the over all cost and technology of this new engine, and Chevy was dealing ( i have no allegiances here, even Toyota would do ) Well off to the beach today. Peace out.
Great review. I have a 2020 Silverado with the 2.7L 4 turbo which has less torque (348ft-lbs) that replaced a 2016 GMC 1500 with 4.3L v-6 work truck. I don't tow and drive in terrible traffic and was surprised to get the same 19.5 mpg as the V-6. The 4 turbo feels (not sounds) like a v-8. I am glad to see a tow test with the higher output version. These are built to save money when you don't tow which is like 90% of 1500 trucks these days. If you tow quite often why are you even in a 1500 instead of a 2500? For me going from v-6 to turbo 4 getting the same mpg while having similar to v-8 power is impressive. I also own a ford 2.7L twin turbo Edge. I tell folks it is eco or boost your choice. The mpg savings come under normal driving vs a V-8. The faster you drive or more you tow the less mpg. Also don't discount how much better the turbo forced air motors do at high elevations. Lastly V-8s are simple motors anymore. I was looking at Chevy's V-8, it is adversting something 15 different fuel modes going from 2 cylinder to 8 cylinder operation as required. Nope not simple anymore.
Look for these used if they turn out to be reliable at higher mileage because most folks won't even consider a 4 cylinder turbo in a "full" sized truck. They should be much cheaper and great if you don't tow or carry heavy loads all the time.
The eco diesel 3.0 v6 gives you almost 30mpg those are real gas savings and much more torque not these dumb 2.7 liter turbos.
That was exciting. I was afraid you were gonna break it. Good job GM.
the engine performed well.
I have 2022 2.7L. I love it. No problems with engine. I haven’t towed anything it’s basically my car. How did you get the red on your dashboard ( the speedometer and tack).
Honestly, guys this truck is sufficient enough for over 75% of the public.
No doubt it performs well for such a small powerplant, but what about the longevity of the engine, especially if you will tow often with it?
if you're towing often (and around this much weight or more) you should probably consider a 2500/250 anyway... just my 2cents
@@sly9263ya but that’s about $50k more haha
Ya I agree the longevity is something that would concern me with this engine.
@@matthew7972 no way- maybe $3-5k more tops for a 250/2500 V8 gas (which is why half tons will never make sense to me unless you are OCD about MPG)
@@sly9263 I don’t get why people obsess over MPG when considering a truck. The only truck I think that’s actually impressive when it comes to MPG is the 3.0 Duramax in the 1500 class. Prices of trucks right now are still sky high when it comes to used or new. This Chevy 2.7 L sounds great but longevity is gonna be an issue.
For a second I I forgot you used KPH instead of MPH and was like 110 with that trailer,,, he is a madman.
There's one locally for $36k new looks really similarly equipped... I'm tempted. Considering used value will hold almost that for 2 years
Love the videos. Would be cool if you add a spreadsheet at the end of the video of all the trucks you tested with results and compare!
I really want to do that. I want to tow with the 5.7 Hemi and the 5.3L from GM first and then at least have the 3 most popular engines from each manufacture to compare.
@@TheGettyAdventures hell yea awesome!
Such an amazing motor GM is recalling them.
Not all of them. So far it's 12 engines that had a crack due to one of the casting molds having an issue.
Almost as much torque as my 8.1! Unbeleivable!
I can imagine the cylinder pressure, piston pin and rod bearing load at that power level and RPM..
Would it be much different to other turbocharged engines? How would it compare to say the 3.0 Duramax?
On top of gm's already poor build quality and longevity.
Forged internals, just send it.
Thanks for this video! I came looking for a video on this motor, hoping to find something which showed a real world tow of a trailer. I wanted to see exactly what your were showing. What kinda RPM you'd get and how much shifting goes on during your tow. Your video was huge for me! I'm looking to replace my 2010 f150 5.4L. Which, going 110kph on cruise will downshift twice with every slight incline towing a trailer, which weighs less than the one your pulling. Can you tell me what octane you were running in that 2.7L. Thanks! Good timing too, I see you put this video out on 57min ago.
The manual states to just use regular 87 octane, and that's all I've ever used in mine. I pull a 32' 7400lb travel trailer with mine, and it works flawlessly. We just did a trip from Michigan to Wisconsin and back, and averaged just over 10MPG, well over 1MPG better than when I had my 5.3. The "get up and go" while towing isn't quite there like the 5.3, but if I had to choose between the ability to get to speed faster, or the consistency of keeping speed while towing, I much prefer the 2.7 over the 5.3 that I had. Think of this engine like a mini diesel, it's made to make low end torque, not beat everything on the road at 0-60, and for that it does amazingly well. I've come to find that everyone bashing this engine has never even driven it.
I use the engine in my colorado .Regular 87 all the time 18 city /25 highway averages.I tow about 3000lb trailer with the redesign 8 speed when in tow mode at 70mph stays in 2200 rpm range all day maybe uses 2 gears going.up and down smaller hills,very few shifts about 13mpg while towing
I had one of these and it was incredible. Hopefully the new 8-speed from the Colorado finds its way into the Silverado because the transmission was my only concern.
The engine itself is great and built to last.
I was happily impressed with this engine. miles ahead of the previous v6.
What about the transmission temperature?? I know you can bring it up in the display 😊
Your new video style is great! I always appreciate your detailed information, especially when shopping for a truck. We are by a RV that is 14k pounds dry. I have a 2024 Ford F350 Platinum SRW HO based in part on your videos and TFL’s. Your school buss comment on the reliability of the Cummins 6.7 nearly got me over to the dark side of RAM. 😮
Haha the 6.7L Cummins is a great engine but the truck Ram puts around the engine is not the best. The super duties are great trucks and the powerstrokes are honestly very well built engines.
@@TheGettyAdventures Thank you for the reply, I have a new question. Today I found a 2007 (1st half of 2007) RAM 2500 5.9. It has a billet transmission new injectors. I am thinking of picking it up in the meantime while I wait 7-8 months for that Ford to be built. From your videos I confirmed it has no blow by issues and zero rust. Any thoughts about that 5.9?
That's a little trailer 😁. It's 1,000 lbs and about 9 ft shorter than my 36 fter that I tow with my 2022 2.7l Silverado. Ha ha. Great video. Thanks for posting it.
I used to tow my RV with my 5.0 Coyote and while at the parks talking to other Ford owners with EcoBoosts, I always got better gas mileage. If we were racing up a hill, they'd smoke me but I'd get the better mileage. I feel that is the same with this little 2.7. With turbo's, you either get "eco" or "boost", not both. When towing, it's always under boost whereas the 5.0 is just cruising along. By comparison, I used to have a 3.0 LM2 Chevy diesel and while towing another car, I got 17 MPG. Currently, I have a Chevy with the LZ0 diesel but haven't towed with it yet (still get 30 MPG on the highway though). I'm curious to your thoughts and potential video on the eco vs. boost when it comes to the 3.0 diesel.
Cruising along with the five oh screaming at 4000 rpm’s? That sounds relaxing..
I don’t mind this motor in my mid size Colorado TB, but I have to have a V8 in my fulsize, first thing I do is put flowmasters on them, I love that sound in my full-size trucks!
Great review! This is the only turbo truck engine that has ever peaked my attention, not a Ford guy and have had horrible luck with them in the past, so i never considered the ecoboost an option for me. I watched the TFLTruck video with the head engineer of this 2.7 and i was impressed with the sturdiness of the engine internals (like someone else mentioned, has pistons and rods designed for diesel pressures but is a gasser). However my dad has done heavy hauling for years and now that ive taken over his business i tend to follow his advice on things, and we just dont trust small displacement engines with turbos in trucks purely for reliability and longevity reasons. Im anxious to see how these hold up 5-10 years down the road after theyve racked up 200k, 300k mi.
They already have the engines been out since 2019 its really not new was redesign slightly in 2022 . The silverado has had since 2019 and Colorado this year.I bet if you search you tube wont find a bunch of complaints on it.
That's interesting cause the 2.7 Ecoboost has similar internals and has a CGI block just like diesels do. I believe the GM 2.7 is aluminum block. Reliability has been excellent on the Ford engines since 2011 give a year maybe two from launch and you have a great engine. The GM 2.7 not so
Seen plenty of the 2.7 ecoboosts with 150-200k+ miles come in to the shop with minimal issues
This Chevy truck and engine is a pos. It’s made for knee pad Chevy boys like you and you can put your rainbow flag on it
"Piqued" your attention
Id buy the small engine turbo.. Owned a 2000 excursion V10 for 15 yrs 250,000 miles.. i do not tow or floor it everywhere i go..Should work fine for me
I don't have faith the " electronic magnetic cam " as well as all the other electronic gizmos will not be a nightmare.
Figure the fuel economy adjustments to the engine were made with the commuter in mind.
Many people who will buy this spec of truck are going to use it around town and only for occasional towing or payload transport, and that average Joe round town driving will likely show off it's fuel economy better.
Either that or reducing the displacement will help them with regulatory constraints regarding engine displacement and vehicle frame/tonnage.
I am currently on my 2nd chevy 4.3 v6. The first one went 25000 miles. I wonder how the overhead cams on the 2.7 will be on maintenance and adjustments compared to the 4.3 v6 with push rods?
I have a '21 2.7 without the max trailering or the upgraded engine, however it has a 9100lb towing capacity.
Just to let you know, FORD has had their version of this power plant for years !!! And it’s AMAZING!! About time GM woke up!! Pun intended 😀😀
Engine braking is lacking for sure. If you have the guages switched on for the oil pressure it is interesting to watch this engine increase the oil pressure as the engine is put under load. A GM engineer that TFL interviewed said the engine was tuned more for drivability than for gas mileage.
My other truck is a Power Wagon.
The engine braking in tow mode down steep hills actually was really good at least on the model.i have
The amount of engine braking an engine is set up to provide is a balance that manufacturers choose. If you close the throttle body too much to give max engine breaking, you're far more likely to have oil consumption issues. The vacuum will suck oil up past the rings. Ford found that out when they started putting the 3rd gen Coyote in the F-150 and the engine braking was so aggressive that the oil consumption was terrible. I think that's why in recent years GM has been less aggressive on engine braking even though TFL dogs them for the extra brake applications. The oil pressure is due to the variable flow vane-style oil pump GM has been using. I'm just impressed they give an actual oil pressure. Too many manufacturers just give a fake oil pressure gauge that's always at 50% if they give anything at all.
I have a 2022 Silverado Custom with the 2.7 and 310 HP and before it I had a 2008 Ram 1500 with the 4.7 @310 HP and the Chevy would just bury that Ram easily in any test and then get 20 MPG average aposed to 15 MPG for the Ram. I only have 26000 miles on it and so far so good but will it go 250k plus miles? Only time will tell that.
I traded in a 19 Colorado for a 2022 Silverado LT Crew 4x4 2.7 Turbo and the mileage is awesome even better than the Colorado! my son used to pull a squarebody dually crew 160 miles not a problem he loves the truck
Those hills didn't seem to steep. I would be interested in seeing it haul my 6500lb travel trailer through Roger's Pass or Crowsnest Pass.
This would be a good comparison to the Ford Ecoboost 2.7L.
That engine wouldn’t last long enough to compare.
@@Cultofpersonality09129seriously! The 2.7 eco beast is so much better. And tuned, forget it!
I'm trying to get my hands on one. would be an awesome comparison!
@@ajmedeiros77eco boost 2.7 is such a dated motor in comparison. It’s not even close, the GM engine is vastly superior and makes more torque with 1 less turbo and 2 less cylinders. Easy choice.
That hill between Woodstock and meductic is no joke, my 5.3L use to scream towing up it.
It's good for it. Gets the carbon out and keeps the rings happy.
Actually, 10mpg is between 1 and 2mpg better than a v8 5.3. It is getting very GOOD mileage for that much weight. With no load it would be comparable to any 4banger. I tow a 6800 pound camper with my 5.3, and would be happy to average over 10mpg
My 5.3 averages about 12-13mpg towing the boat.
Great video... but something a lot of people seem to skip over with this engine design is emission and carbon impact. It seems like everyone always says "they're making a 4 cylinder for fuel economy." but it's not that, the fuel economy is similar to a V6... a big focus on this engine with it's 4 cylinder design is an attempt to reduce emissions impact. And it does just that. Same power as a big engine, same MPG as a V6, but less exhaust coming out the tailpipe. A big part of future success with car brands meeting EPA regulations is not just high MPG numbers, but also reduced carbon impact and in that regard this engine is a huge step in the right direction.
Longevity counts in my book
My 2.7 ecoboost also hung out around 2K-2.5K rpm when towing 8k. The turbo makes 8 million low end horsetorques. In fact, the bulk of the powerband is down low. If this GM is anything like the 2.7 ecoboost, it falls off dramatically up top. Whereas an NA engine typically comes alive in the upper bands.
engines like this one, and the 2.7 ecoboost, exist for unloaded fuel economy. If anyone cares about the towing economy or thinks it should be better, they miss the point of the engine, as well as basic physics.
@@vandersnickmcduffle7333few 1/2 ton truck owners tow regularly. These turbo motors still get similar mpgs to V8s and make much more torque. That right there is worth 0.3 mpg.
You say the power band fall off dramatically up top, but then again looking at the spec sheets from a dyno it’s says you are wrong.
And who wants to tow at 4000 rpm to get decent torque out of that v8, that alone has it stressed big time
I do some light snow plowing ( my driveway and a few others) do you think I could do that with one of these?
I'd love to see this compared with the 3.0 LM2 diesel. I have the diesel and LOVE it, but I wouldn't be opposed to at least driving one of the 2.7s.
I think it would be a very good comparison to the diesel. the diesel will be way more efficient but both engines are heavily favored in torque so it would be interesting!
Does this thing have a transmission cooler? The benefit to higher rpm is better fluid flow to keep things cool. You should use a ScanGuage II to see what the temps get to.
Thats actually a very good idea. I may look into that for these towing tests
@@TheGettyAdventures I have the ScanGuage 3, which is a touch screen and can display many different parameters. (ATF temps, oil temp, lots of other things.) it’s pretty cool.
My SBC 383 tows my 6,000 lbs brick of a travel trailer behind a 7,000 lbs van tows along at 2,200 rpm and seldom has to drop to 3rd, where it turns 2,800.
The fuel economy is about the same as every competitor while towing, but for your daily driver umloaded thats where youll see the real MPGs. So if you only tow on tne weekends this is a great set up.
I want to see the longevity. How long will the turbo last. Motor last
Just a thought about design, economy and expectations. I'm sure GM was hoping at least at first to get maybe 22 in town, even with the lower HP numbers from the 19 model, but that did not happen, so they went for max torque and this is what we got. some very good numbers and some super drive ability, but alas the MPG disappoints many people. But I had to get one, I know torque and low RPM longevity in design. All engines only have a life time of revolutions, this one spins slow, has only 4 cylinders. results should ( should ) be less cost overall compared to the 5.3 or other model V8's. Only time will tell however. I just have to say I love how this power comes on early and the absolute grunt of this little baby. My professional life has been a diesel engine mechanic / technician, I know this engine's design fundamentals are long stroke, undersquare dimensions are all diesel, but wow, with gasoline. No DPF/SCR extra cost for diesel and simplicity. Trust me I've made a lot of house payments fixing diesel with the new emission's systems. The down side for me, crap even the base truck is way expensive. Summery is you get lots of torque ( that's what moves trucks ) at low rev's. Chevy / Ford / Dodge, hey man that's Merican! Love my country but we are being taken for a ride by the elites, God sees all that is going on, it must be part of the plan. Trust God. Peace out.
I recently decided to give this engine a try on my recent purchase (Chevy Double cab 2.7 Custom trim). I own a small business and for my needs, this truck fits perfect. I have the power when needed as I don't tow often due to the larger bed space for hauling. I get 21 to 22 on the Hwy at 74 to 77 mph. I can achieve more if my foot wasn't so heavy (Lol). This drivetrain in my opinion drives very relaxed and as you stated, it doesn't seem to be working hardly at all. I've seen 85 mph and the tack is barely turning at 2100 rpm. This is insane in my book for a 4 cyl. Just wanted to respond to you comments as I can confirm the aspects you spoke of. God knows all and see's all!!! Peace.
Can you review the colorado/canyon with this engine? Great videos
About the same MPG as a 5.3, with slightly more torque....It makes me wonder why GM dosent offer a 5.3 in the Colorado. That would be a fun truck!
I was scratching my head when I found out Chevy didn't make it so the 2.7L could take advantage of 91 and 93oct. Then I realized... they couldn't upcharge for the 5.3 V8 if the 2.7L was matching HP and over 100 more torque.
It probably has the ability to get some advantage from higher octane fuel, they just don't require 89 or 91. Almost all modern engines are tuned to advance spark timing until it's "bouncing off the knock sensors". That's where peak fuel efficiency and power is. But when they rate the engine's power output, it will always be done with the fuel used to get the EPA fuel economy estimates.
Everytime he says "Sewing Machine" take a shot.